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With aging, sprinting is one of those
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things if you don't keep it up, if
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you don't keep, you know, ballistic capacity up in your tendons, tendons will get fragile and
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and you won't be able to.
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And then your your chances of ruptures go up.
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And then you ever notice when you look at somebody moving around and somebody looks old
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versus somebody who looks youthful?
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Yeah.
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It's it's more about like their bounce and
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Dan and I are on the same mission and that mission is to change the narrative of modern
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We're not here for band aids we're here for blueprints and today we're talking about all
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things proactive health.
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Why is this country so sick who's profiting from us being so sick and really how real
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healing begins from within.
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Little fun story Dan was actually one of my professors in chiropractic school so this guy
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is full of knowledge and full of great insight and I'm really excited to have you on the show
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Dan thanks for joining us.
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Thanks appreciate you have me.
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Yes Sir well why don't we start with this maybe tell a little bit about your story kind of what
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led you in your life to get into health and alternative health.
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And become a chiropractor and that kind of thing.
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You know, my story is maybe not as direct as a lot of other people's with chiropractics.
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It seems like a lot of chiropractors have a I got hurt and I went to Cairo and I had this
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great, wonderful story.
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And so I took the professional path.
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Mine, I was really just a competitive kid.
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I always wanted an edge.
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And I always had a very strong synergistic idea about where we exist in the world and natural
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systems and stuff like that.
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And I always even when I was a little kid, it's weird.
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I remember being very young and not vibing with the allopathic model of pharmaceuticals.
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So I was like, man, I don't know how I knew these things, but I'm thinking like, man,
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they're altering a single pathway in physiology.
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I probably didn't know those but it doesn't seem like it's accounting for how things work
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together.
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And so there's always my way of being more natural systems kind of guy.
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But I grew up in normal Western medicine households, so I didn't know what else to do.
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It was kind of tough actually from that standpoint where I didn't know of alternatives
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as a profession.
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I knew I should be a doctor of some kind, but if I don't like the model the doctors work
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under, what do I do?
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When I was around 25, I had found out about chiropractic and I learned, I don't even know
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if it was Google at that time.
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I'm 45 now, so whatever that was twenty years ago.
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And I found out about the scope of practice for chiropractic.
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I thought, oh, damn, they could do pretty much all the stuff that I wanna do.
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They can't do the things that I don't wanna do.
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This perfect.
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And that was kind of my find out about chiropractic story.
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But where I've gone with chiropractic since then, I've had a pretty heavy emphasis on
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functional medicine and functional neurology in most of my time as being at chiro.
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Functional medicine was really, had a loved one who had diabetes, so I went to a functional
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medicine course, and I thought, this really resonates with me.
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Finding just better testing, more complete testing, looking for patterns within the
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testing to determine how a system is functioning and then use natural means to
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correct it.
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This sounds awesome.
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And so I really resonated with functional medicine and I really thought like this is the
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way that healthcare needs to go.
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Mainstream healthcare should be a functional medicine mainstream, not the allopathic
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mainstream in my thoughts.
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Emergency medicine is one thing, but for health generation, I think it's the way to go.
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And the
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neurology stuff came from was in the army for eight years and when I was in Iraq, I had a
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bunch of blast injuries.
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And then when I got home, it's funny, I got blast injuries, none of which actually knocked
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me out.
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They were like mild traumatic brain injury level concussive blasts.
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I didn't actually get knocked out, but come home and I got in a freaking ATV accident and
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woke up in the hospital.
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So series of blast injuries, then a gnarly ATV accident in Cairo school actually.
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And I thought, man, there's a lot of deficits that are extremely noticeable and I don't like
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this.
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So I pursued functional neurology as soon as I could keep a thought in my head for more than
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five minutes.
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Yeah.
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The recovery was, you know, it's tough after TBI.
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And, yeah, so I jumped into Kerik's functional neurology program and loved it.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah, I did a couple of those courses as well with Carrick Institute really good man.
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While I was in school as well.
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And yeah, you know, the functional neurology piece is so cool because it's like you can
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reset the connections right between the brain and the muscle or the brain and the systems.
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It's just a matter of like how are you getting the interference out of the way and that's
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ultimately what we do with chiropractic with functional medicine, the body I always tell
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every patient I'm like your body is meant to heal its healing right now as we're talking.
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How do we get it out of its own way?
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How do we remove the interference, right?
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The junk, which is a lot of times like toxins, you know, exposure to chemicals, mold, whatever
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is built up that's preventing your body from doing its job.
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And that's where functional medicine comes into play ultimately.
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So you know, you're a professor for a while as well.
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And now you're kind of shifting gears, I think, into back into practice, right?
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And you've got your podcast rolling and stuff.
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So that's awesome, man.
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That's exciting.
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And I know you said your story, but there was a connection there to like a loved one, right?
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Had some kind of an illness or disease and you felt some passion from that.
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Doctor.
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Right.
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Yeah, that's the it was my mom actually.
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She was type two diabetic.
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Didn't know it.
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You could tell.
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But
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there was never a diagnosis.
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And I've noticed that with patients too along the way that without something objective, it's
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been harder to convince somebody to do something.
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And when you have objective results in their face and says, This is what you have because of
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these numbers, a lot of people jump on board better.
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So that's one the things that actually I've appreciated from the functional medicine side
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of things is that there's lot of testing.
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And when you have the testing, there's objective results that kind of convince people,
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Damn, I do need to do something about this.
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And that's been helpful.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that's everything we do in our clinic as well as we test, don't guess.
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It's like how many times I see somebody come in there like, yeah, just started taking this
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supplement.
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I'm like, yeah, what made you want to somebody told me it was good for me.
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It's like, maybe, right?
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Maybe, like maybe you're filling some gaps.
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Maybe you don't need it, right?
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But if you don't test, you ultimately don't know.
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So, the body's meant again, there's equilibrium that's meant to be had and there are
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deficiencies that I think are just so predominant with like vitamin D, magnesium
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that's based on again, like environmental factors, right?
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We're not like genetically low on these things.
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It's the environment we live in is full of toxic burden and it's just taken us out.
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So, you know, that's a good segue, I think, into kind of the first thing I would really
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want to get into is like, why, in your opinion, do you think America is so sick?
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Or why is this country at an all time high in chronic disease, obesity and all these things?
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I think it's very multifaceted.
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I don't want to hit the low hanging fruit first.
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I think the sedentary nature of our population is so destructive.
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That's where every technology that comes out, it seems like it is to make our life easier.
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Well, easier means lazier and less healthy.
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So I think the sedentary nature of our lifestyle is one of the main factors.
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Obviously, the the low hanging fruit that I was avoiding first is the food system.
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The food system is so bereft with a toxic shit storm that is it's tough it's tough to deal
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with, you know?
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And, it's not even just the food system, but mean, you want to get into like, we're getting
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Bill Gates wants to block out the sun by spraying chemicals in the sky and turns out
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they've been doing it for six to five years anyway for weather modification.
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And so we're exposed to so many things in our environment.
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I don't remember what the status or the number for how many new chemicals are allowed into our
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environment, whether it's water supply, food supply, whatever, every year.
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And it's already a staggering number to start with.
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So we're really you're fighting an uphill battle, especially if you're not aware and
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you're just kinda rolling with the way normal goes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I I think that's you know, it's like the cat's out of the bag now.
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Right?
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Nobody thinks that our country is, like, thriving.
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We're we know that we're all super unhealthy, and there's Yeah.
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Right?
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Like, the outlier are the guys like us who, like, you take your shirt off at the beach and
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you have a six pack.
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People are like, woah.
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Look at that guy.
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It's like, dude, we all used to look like that, right?
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Like, should all look like Yeah, exactly.
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It's unfortunate.
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And so, you know, again, like the rise of all these chronic conditions, autoimmunity, things
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that like in the past, dude, even you go back fifty years were not were non existent, right?
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Like, those were rare conditions, and now they are like the comp they're the norm, right?
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So prevalent.
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Of norm, yeah.
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And so, I mean, without getting super like woo woo conspiracy because I could, we could
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probably go there but you know I I do think there's a bit of an agenda right if not a lot
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of an agenda and some of it can be seen in like the.
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The basic thing and I talk about this all the time like the breakfast is the most important
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meal of the day that entire thing came out of like a Kellogg's marketing ploy to get people
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to eat their cereal right because this sugary cereal is supposed to somehow be your most
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important meal of the day.
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People used to not eat breakfast like breakfast was just like you know you go until you got
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hungry with midday you'd have a nice like hearty meal, right?
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So again, just the
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standard was an intermittent fast.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Or even like before that, like our ancestors would go days without eating until they killed
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something and ate it.
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And so it's like, and
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then they gorge for a while and then they bitten for a while.
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That metabolic flexibility piece that comes from that feast and famine component.
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Don't know if you know Doctor.
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Dan Pompa talks about that all the time, right?
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The feast and famine and it's I kind of live in that realm and like there's days where I'll
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like be more active and I'm like man, I'm hungry.
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I'm going eat a little bit more today and there's days where I'm just doing mental tasks
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and I actually rather not eat because that frees up some capacity for me to have more
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Yeah, clarity.
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Exactly, man.
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So, you know yeah.
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You have something to say?
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I did.
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Yeah.
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You mentioned, you kinda passed by vitamin d quickly, and I, not that I think you should
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have stopped at it, but I just did I just shot a a podcast recently about and this is kinda
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dive into the fear mongering that goes along with just the normal advice that's given.
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And to be afraid of the sun is one of those things.
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And so I did a podcast, and I've I've, you know, threw a little cute quip in there about,
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you know, make America shirtless again.
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That's awesome.
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Because I'm that dude.
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I'm like that weird dude.
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It's like around the neighborhood with no shirt on.
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And it's only weird.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because people don't do it, but it should be weird.
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And I'm not I'm doing it creepy.
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I'm just, you know, I'm trying to create some vitamin D in my skin, you know?
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That's right.
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And from the fear standpoint, we're always told that the sun's going to kill us and you're
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going get skin cancer.
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But it's one of those things that there's just a natural, available stimulus that reduces our
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chances of a host of other cancers.
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And the only increase in cancer risk for skin is if you get burned and typically burned
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repetitively.
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So if you mitigate your exposure such that you don't get burned, then it's actually a health
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benefiting exposure to be in the sun.
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So advice to just I've heard this before too.
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Somebody will, hey, do you have your SPF on today?
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Like, that's it's like, do you have your socks on?
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I'm like,
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do you have your SPF?
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Jesus Christ.
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No, I don't have my SPF on.
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Going go specifically not have it on, get a healthful glow and produce vitamin D and be
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healthier for it.
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Thanks for asking.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's so good.
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And again, man, it's like the fear, right?
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The fear component.
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And who stands to profit behind that?
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Probably sunscreen companies, right?
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They sell a ton of this Sure.
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Like you had alluded to earlier, look at the sunscreen companies, the companies, who are the
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companies?
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And you have the pharmaceutical companies who also own at least the big food companies.
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That's right.
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And so they've got this cute little revolving door of make them sick or get a drug to patch
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the sick.
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And oh, you got six side effects that go along with this drug.
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Cool.
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We have more drugs for that too.
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And it's just a money stipend out of the population.
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It is a fantastic business model, right?
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Like future forever customer.
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Right?
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Like, they need your product because you got them sick on your other products.
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Right?
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So it's Yeah.
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It's man.
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Yeah.
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Convince them that they need your product.
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Yeah.
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Your product, you convince them that they that they need your product.
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And I mean, you can take it a level deeper and say that it's indoctrinated very young, into
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our kids.
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It's like, kinda just like, what they tell you.
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Go to get your wellness checkup and like, dude, my kids are four and they are like the
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healthiest little guys you ever seen in your life.
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Zero shots, zero.
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They've had antibiotics once in their life when it was like they had a RSV virus, right?
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And I got that point that antibiotics doesn't do anything anyway, but nothing bro.
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Like they don't take medicine like they take, I give them honey and ginger and garlic when they
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have a little sniffle.
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Do they knock it out like that?
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Also and I think their mom puts a little bit more on them with sunscreen.
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I don't put sunscreen on them.
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Just limit the exposure.
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I'm like, Hey, take your shirt off like we're going to run around in the park for
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fifteen-twenty minutes.
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You build up that base where your body can tolerate it, right?
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And so it's like, even if they get a little red the next day they're good.
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And I'm the same way and I actually like throwing this in here when we have the
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conversation about the sun and vitamin D and sunburn.
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There's a couple hacks, and people don't know this when you wear sunglasses, and maybe you've
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heard this maybe you haven't.
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When you wear sunglasses, it's actually blocking your optic nerve from taking in that
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like those UV rays, you're more likely to get burned.
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I don't wear sunglasses because then my eyes are actually pulling in those UV rays, right?
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They're accepting that, and my body knows to now produce the melanin to tan rather than
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burn.
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And then another cool little hack is there's an antioxidant called astaxanthin.
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If you take astaxanthin, it actually helps you tan better as well.
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So I do those two things.
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Astaxanthin is just a great antioxidant for like daily anyway.
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It like for free radical cleanup and all that kind of stuff.
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But those two things dude, I'm out in the sun every single day shirt off, run around like and
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I don't get sunburned.
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That's interesting because I had kind of forgotten about AskAnthony in that context, but
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I have in the past taken it when I knew that I couldn't limit my exposure as much as I wanted
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to.
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I was like, damn, I'm going to be out doing this and I want something.
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So I actually took that.
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And also, you can find shade.
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You can create shade.
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There's a closed door.
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Closure shade, right?
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It had a Right.
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And if you have to throw on something that you want to put on your skin because whatever, you
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can't put on the clothes, you're in the water, whatever it is.
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They have mineral sunblocks that are reflective instead of the chemical sunscreens that are
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carcinogenic.
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So you have other options.
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Yeah.
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The stuff that sits on the skin rather than soaks into the skin.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's the probably why people, you know, they don't like it as much because you kinda look
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all like pasty white and but they have some that are tinted now.
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So it's not as as Right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, my yeah.
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I agree with you.
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My biggest thing is like, I'll I'll just limit the time.
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Right?
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Like, I'll plan.
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Like, it's yeah.
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If you're gonna be out at the beach all day long, bring an umbrella, go sit under the
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umbrella every now and then and get like a little break, you know?
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It's that prolonged hours and hours and hours where, yeah, you're either going to get burnt
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or something is going to obviously occur there.
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I did find a bunch of research on frequency of exposure as well when I was rabbit holing like
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I do on things.
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Regular intermittent or not regular moderate exposure is better than regular or intermittent
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moderate exposure.
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So it's like that don't it's that building a base kind of concept.
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You get a little you get that erythemal dose, your body builds to it.
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Right.
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Another little dose, your body builds to it, versus you get here, your body builds to it, it
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starts to drop again, then you get whacked again with you know, a higher intensity of sun.
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So it's, that regular keep the make America show this again.
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That concept is actually the healthier way to go than admit and exposure.
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Yeah.
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And it I mean, it's the same with a lot of things.
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You don't just go into the gym and start squatting 500 pounds you have to build up to
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that
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day.
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Yeah
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you got to get in there and get some reps get some fund fundamental stability and then yes
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you can start adding in that that natural adaptation response will occur our body
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functions in many ways with that same it's the same with chiropractic care too, right?
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First time someone gets like an adjustment, maybe they've never had one, their neck might
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be kind of sore or pain, you know.
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But then the body starts to pick it up and you start to stabilize and obviously get results.
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Yeah, you know, think that's the biggest thing is like, I think people, this just kind of
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popped in my head.
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People don't know what health looks like anymore because there's even those people out
00:19:12
there that look jacked, look you know, and they're spouting all this stuff.
00:19:16
Then like on their blood work are unhealthy, right?
00:19:18
Like if you were to run a panel on them, you'd like dude, you're about to have a heart attack.
00:19:21
And I actually just knew a guy who was like that and it's his coronary artery score was
00:19:25
like he was like 90% blockage and he's cut up.
00:19:29
He's a bit older, but he's like, you know, he looks like you'd be like man, this guy takes
00:19:32
care of himself.
00:19:33
The internal is more important to me than I guess the external.
00:19:38
But the external tends to be almost like a display of of internal health too.
00:19:43
Right?
00:19:44
Right.
00:19:44
It's what you see.
00:19:45
And since you can't see the inside, people just accept what they see on the outside.
00:19:49
Yeah.
00:19:49
Yeah.
00:19:49
That's right.
00:19:50
Well, let's do this, man.
00:19:52
Obviously, we kind of touched on this and the the they the the they keeping us all in the
00:19:59
sick realm.
00:20:00
But it's like, you know, again, it's it's a system designed to create what we call like
00:20:06
what you said like the revolving door of patients just coming in coming in, you've been
00:20:10
told to listen to the doc, but then the doc spends two minutes with you and just says, Hey,
00:20:16
take this medicine.
00:20:17
Doesn't even really tell you what's going on.
00:20:20
They kind of just give you something to take, right?
00:20:22
Also, unfortunately, they might not know because they haven't been given any sort of
00:20:26
what creates health.
00:20:28
Most of medical school is about how to suppress physiology for various reasons, to suppress
00:20:34
symptoms or whatever the case may be.
00:20:36
Let's go there.
00:20:36
Keep going.
00:20:37
Generate health.
00:20:38
Do they have answers for them that they could give?
00:20:40
Unless they've done outside education, they probably don't.
00:20:43
Yeah.
00:20:43
And so, you know, a great example is you go to an MD or a Western Med doc with an autoimmune
00:20:50
condition, they put you on immune suppressing drugs.
00:20:54
Doctor.
00:20:54
Right.
00:20:54
Now, let me rephrase that, right?
00:20:56
They, your immune system is already suppressed and attacking itself.
00:20:59
They want to suppress it more.
00:21:01
That's and then those people get out of there and now they just are sick every day.
00:21:04
They're getting these minor infections that like are taking them out, right?
00:21:07
A little cold from their kid.
00:21:09
Work, but now they've shut off their immune system.
00:21:11
Exactly.
00:21:12
And so, it's like the opposite should be like, wait, how do we rebuild the immune system?
00:21:17
How do we fix the problem?
00:21:19
And that goes into like, what is the root cause, right?
00:21:21
And we talk about that all the time.
00:21:22
I think even that phrase now is getting watered down like root cause medicine.
00:21:26
But essentially, like the prime example I use, because I've seen this time and time and time
00:21:32
again, I mean, feel like I get a new patient for this every week, some kind of autoimmune
00:21:36
thing, whether it's like an eczema or an arthritis or psoriasis, right?
00:21:39
Or even like a full blown like Hashimoto's, the root cause of that, okay?
00:21:43
Like those things didn't just start, something triggered that.
00:21:46
So then, you know, some docs might say, the root cause was like a leaky gut or like some
00:21:51
kind of permeability in the gut.
00:21:52
But like what was the root cause of that?
00:21:54
Right?
00:21:54
You gotta keep going.
00:21:55
Yeah, what's your lifestyle?
00:21:57
Chronic stress?
00:21:58
Like you're so fried plus you're eating XYZ like fast food all the time.
00:22:03
That's a root cause lifestyle.
00:22:05
So, you know, lifestyle medicine.
00:22:08
Have you ever messed around with SNP testing?
00:22:12
I have done a little bit, but I can't say I'm super deep into it.
00:22:16
So, some people might say that's a root cause because that's so SNP just stands for a single
00:22:21
nucleotide polymorphism.
00:22:22
It just means a single, ATGC, the little nucleotides on a gene, one is wrong.
00:22:30
And so you have a slightly altered action of that gene.
00:22:33
And so that's the susceptibility.
00:22:36
But really, it's not the root cause.
00:22:37
The susceptibility doesn't mean you have it.
00:22:39
It means it's easier for you to get it.
00:22:41
So it's still the lifestyle that is the root cause of the problem even if there's a SNP
00:22:46
involved.
00:22:46
Yeah.
00:22:46
It just means if you know about that, you can account for it with whatever action it is that
00:22:51
would account for that.
00:22:53
Yeah.
00:22:54
I just wanted to mention that.
00:22:54
I didn't know if you're into the sniff testing or not.
00:22:56
Yeah.
00:22:57
No.
00:22:57
I've read some good stuff on it.
00:22:59
There's a cool book called dirty genes, doctor Ben Great book because he wrote it in a way
00:23:05
that could take someone who's not a doctor like us, who has no idea about genetics and genetic
00:23:09
code and they could understand it and it basically yeah super super easy to read but he
00:23:15
explains like there's different types of snips that can lead to they can predispose you to
00:23:19
stuff it's not a 100% right so you have this, you get this, but it's like you might be more
00:23:24
predisposed to, right?
00:23:26
Maybe cardiac things if you have like an NO3 snip, right?
00:23:29
Where your body's not producing that nitric oxide in the blood as much because nitric oxide
00:23:33
dilates blood vessels and all that, right?
00:23:35
And so, knowing those things is really cool and there are some good tests you can do.
00:23:40
I'd say that's something I've dabbled in a bit.
00:23:43
However, we lean more on like the comprehensive testing for hormones and gut and that's a
00:23:48
little bit more of like what we deal with.
00:23:50
But it is something we help patients with the biggest one I think I see is I do like to throw
00:23:55
in like an MTHFR test a lot.
00:23:57
If someone comes in with a lot of like chemical sensitivities or they've been exposed to mold
00:24:03
and heavy metals and we're going to detox them.
00:24:05
I'm like I need to know how well your body detoxes so let's see what the NTHF looks like.
00:24:10
And then we're going to like support that along the process too.
00:24:14
Because that's a big one, and that's super common I have.
00:24:17
I have like a 75% allele to that.
00:24:21
My kid's mom has like the 25% so you know they're already set up to be like fifty percent
00:24:26
right ish like if that's like the way that works so.
00:24:29
So yeah, you know supporting that with the methylated vitamins.
00:24:31
But luckily, to easy to mitigate.
00:24:33
Doctor.
00:24:33
Very easy.
00:24:34
Yeah.
00:24:34
You just gotta know.
00:24:35
Doctor.
00:24:35
But again, there's the knowledge piece that like a lot of people don't know and then
00:24:38
they're they're Western Med docs is oh yeah, just go take a like a B vitamin, and it's folic
00:24:42
acid, which makes the methylating process worse because the folic acid doesn't bind properly
00:24:48
and blocks it rather than opening it, you know.
00:24:50
And so there's like all these, these just missed things that they that's not understood.
00:24:55
So, again, this the whole concept of this podcast, man, is to educate people so that they
00:24:59
can, they can make these decisions for themselves and ultimately like have, I call it
00:25:04
the home doctor kit.
00:25:05
Give every patient like a kind of a guide on this, like, hey, if you're doing functional
00:25:09
medicine or any kind of program with us, you're in control, right?
00:25:12
You show up to your appointments, you make the decision to do this.
00:25:15
I'm just going to guide you.
00:25:16
I'm like the wise old wizard.
00:25:17
You're the hero, right?
00:25:18
You're the guy who's attacking the monster.
00:25:20
I'm just a little dude like, Oh, no, don't go that way.
00:25:22
So, you
00:25:23
know, but like the home doctor kid is like, Okay, like what is your blood work show you
00:25:27
that you should have?
00:25:28
And then like, are you taking your blood pressure regularly?
00:25:30
Are you checking your pulse oxalate?
00:25:32
These kind of things that you can just have in your home to make more educated decisions, you
00:25:36
know?
00:25:37
Mhmm.
00:25:37
Yeah.
00:25:38
So, you know, again, it's do you have do you wanna get a point on that?
00:25:42
Yeah.
00:25:43
Your kids being so healthy.
00:25:44
And I'm a 16 old right now.
00:25:46
I guess she's almost 17.
00:25:48
But for the last probably fifteen years, I've had a really strong interest in fetal
00:25:54
optimization.
00:25:55
So the things that you could do preconception through gestation to optimize the ceiling for
00:26:03
your kid's potential.
00:26:03
Yeah.
00:26:04
And I feel like it's so unthought of in the general population that that ceiling is
00:26:11
inadvertently lowered.
00:26:13
They just don't have the capacity to hit a potential how high could it be.
00:26:17
It's not not as high as it could be because of things that they've done along the way.
00:26:21
And so I it's one of things that's kinda like in my my passion zone right now.
00:26:26
One, because I have the kid.
00:26:28
And Yeah.
00:26:29
He's freaking awesome.
00:26:30
Like, you're saying the kids are kicking ass.
00:26:31
Like, damn.
00:26:32
I'm so impressed all the time, especially when I see around other kids that are her age or
00:26:36
even a little older.
00:26:37
I'm like, man, you're doing great, girl.
00:26:39
Yeah.
00:26:40
And again, that passion gets bred for I like, Dude, my kids are brilliant.
00:26:44
Like, and, you know, it's part of that I will attribute to like, we were super dialed in on
00:26:48
their like first foods.
00:26:50
Like, for like, probably the first year when they started eating solid food, it was like
00:26:54
eggs with a lot more egg yolk than white.
00:26:56
It was avocados, bone marrow, like we're giving these little pastes that they would just like,
00:27:00
dude crush.
00:27:01
And so it's like their brains are filled with these like healthy saturated fats that have
00:27:05
just built it up, you know.
00:27:06
And yeah, choline like the biggest source of choline is those egg yolks.
00:27:10
If but if you don't know, like you said before, if you don't know, then you can't do anything
00:27:13
about
00:27:13
it.
00:27:14
Well, people are giving them the little rice puffs that's got nothing in it.
00:27:16
They're like, loves these rice puffs.
00:27:18
I'm like, that is cardboard.
00:27:20
But yeah, you know, so that's a great point.
00:27:24
And so I'll kind of share a little bit and I don't I don't think I've ever even like told
00:27:28
this on the podcast, but my I'm not with my my kids mom, but she had a miscarriage prior to
00:27:34
the twins being born.
00:27:35
So, the way that that was handled really dude, it made me sick, the way it was handled by the
00:27:42
OB in the hospital system.
00:27:44
They said, Oh, like, because I knew a little bit about like MTHFR and how that can lead to,
00:27:49
you know, neural tube defects and miscarriage or even predisposed.
00:27:52
And so, I asked the doc, was like, Hey, what about like running an MTHFR test?
00:27:55
Like, would you guys do that?
00:27:56
They were like, The answer was, We don't normally do that until there's been like a
00:28:00
couple, like two or three miscarriages.
00:28:01
And I was like, Okay, so you're saying that she needs to go through the most traumatic thing
00:28:06
she's ever experienced two more times before you're going to even test like a $50 test?
00:28:11
Anyway, I took it into my hands.
00:28:13
Was like, let's run this test outside.
00:28:14
We ran it.
00:28:15
She did have that you know that mutation in the gene that she was not methylating B vitamins.
00:28:20
Fully detoxed.
00:28:22
We did like did we did a ton of detoxing that we got her on this almost like an abundant
00:28:26
methylated B vitamin.
00:28:28
Plus choline like the list of things that we were doing was like this long, but it was she
00:28:33
was so optimized she was so healthy going into that.
00:28:36
Then here I go I have these.
00:28:37
Mean amazing twin boys like the twin thing was just a coincidence like that's just a statistic
00:28:43
right but anyway, like, they they even them being born, like, like, eight weeks early, they
00:28:47
were still so healthy, bro.
00:28:48
Like, they the only reason they wouldn't let us leave the NICU was because they weren't four
00:28:53
pounds yet.
00:28:53
They were, like, under four pounds, the car seats only hold four pounds.
00:28:56
Like, they were like, these people are good to go.
00:28:58
They're tiny.
00:28:58
I was like, alright, like, you know, and so since then, it's just been like, again, like,
00:29:03
they're they're showing that that health is from all the stuff that we did.
00:29:07
We were proactive about it.
00:29:08
We weren't.
00:29:08
And then the whole, like, formula system in the hospital too, they were like, well, they're
00:29:13
small, they need to be on this formula.
00:29:15
I looked at it, was like, oh, you mean this brown rice sugar?
00:29:17
They should be eating this.
00:29:18
Like, no, I'm cool.
00:29:20
We're not going to do that.
00:29:21
Where did you have them?
00:29:22
We were living in Colorado at the time.
00:29:24
Oh, okay.
00:29:25
So was in here in Tampa, they've they've got a really good milk bank system.
00:29:29
Yeah.
00:29:30
Yeah.
00:29:30
And so we did some we had some donor colostrum and then, know, stuff like that that we were
00:29:37
able to supplement.
00:29:38
But we found a really good organic formula as well that comes from Germany of all places.
00:29:43
Europe has way more restrictions.
00:29:45
And now this maybe shifts us back towards that like food conversation because look at like the
00:29:50
number of chemicals in the food in this country that are allowed that are banned in other
00:29:55
countries.
00:29:55
They don't even consider it, like like, something you would put in your body, like
00:29:58
petroleum.
00:29:59
It's in so many
00:30:00
like, just such a blatant slap in your face.
00:30:02
Like, this population is a bunch of idiots.
00:30:05
Yeah.
00:30:05
We can do whatever we want.
00:30:07
It's god.
00:30:07
It's frustrating.
00:30:08
It is, man.
00:30:09
It is.
00:30:09
And we saw, I think yeah.
00:30:11
Again, like, let's get a little conspiracy here.
00:30:12
But we saw a big example of that with, the COVID thing.
00:30:15
Right?
00:30:16
Is like, let's see what we can get away with.
00:30:18
Tell them all they need to wear masks and now wear two masks.
00:30:20
And that's going to make you more safe.
00:30:22
Right?
00:30:23
And then watch each other eat each other alive.
00:30:26
That that was weird how, you know, neighbors are telling our neighbors and being it was it
00:30:30
got real weird.
00:30:32
Yeah.
00:30:32
It's like to create division within, right?
00:30:34
Within families and communities and stuff like that.
00:30:37
Again
00:30:38
Implant of that mind virus as well as any other virus with that.
00:30:41
That's right.
00:30:41
And ultimately, for a goal.
00:30:43
The goal is, you know, political and money and all that on the backside of that.
00:30:48
And maybe we'll maybe we'll cap Yeah.
00:30:52
Control for sure.
00:30:53
Right?
00:30:53
Like like, these people will do what we say.
00:30:57
So, you you know, let's let's segue a little bit.
00:30:59
I'm loving this conversation, by the way.
00:31:02
You know, the whole model that you and I are trying to create and trying to educate people
00:31:07
on is that like the what they call health care or like what the insurance company says your
00:31:13
health care, is really sick care.
00:31:15
They're managing a disease or they're managing how sick you are.
00:31:19
But what are they doing for like health, right?
00:31:22
So like, this might be a cool question and it kind of just came to me.
00:31:25
But if you had to say like, what would your metrics of health be?
00:31:29
Right?
00:31:30
Like, we're both like functional docs and we want to keep people as healthy as possible.
00:31:35
What things do you focus on as opposed to what like the sick care model would focus on?
00:31:41
So that's a good question to hit me on the spot with with no prep.
00:31:45
But I will say, I think it would be easiest probably for me to start with just physical
00:31:53
metrics.
00:31:54
And there would be capacity metrics.
00:31:58
So it would be VO2 max.
00:32:00
It would be as long as you're ambulatory, it would be a, I mean, say a 400 meter sprint.
00:32:06
What is your time?
00:32:07
And you could even do some cardiovascular measures that are associated with it, like how
00:32:13
long does it take you to come down from the effort and some measures like So I think some
00:32:18
capacity metrics like that would be really important.
00:32:23
I think markers, like blood markers know what so what's coming to mind right now is things
00:32:34
like endogenous antioxidant systems and how well they work.
00:32:38
And that doesn't And so some of that could be dietary oriented, it could be lifestyle
00:32:43
oriented.
00:32:44
So it's one that encompasses a lot of different factors that come into effect.
00:32:48
And when I say endogenous antioxidant systems and why I care about them, you had mentioned
00:32:52
you're like that dude who is like, he's all shredded and he's got no blood flow.
00:32:59
90% of the antioxidant activity that occurs in your body occurs via the endogenous antioxidant
00:33:03
systems, not the antioxidants that you eat.
00:33:06
So if I'm, you know, eating whatever I eat for vitamin C, I'm eating kiwis and stuff, and I'm
00:33:11
thinking I'm getting all these antioxidants, I mean, you are, but it only accounts for 10% of
00:33:16
the activity of antioxidant activity that happens in your body.
00:33:19
So as long as your glutathione system, your superoxide dismutase, your catalase, that is
00:33:24
all being recycled and functioning well, then you have a good antioxidant activity happening
00:33:30
in your body.
00:33:30
And if you don't, so much goes wrong.
00:33:33
Just glutathione from a single standpoint, it's your master antioxidant, but it's also got its
00:33:39
own detox pathway in your liver.
00:33:40
So if your glutathione is not being produced well or recycled well, you're having trouble.
00:33:45
Yeah.
00:33:45
And so I think I would look at stuff like that on top of my performance metrics that I would
00:33:50
use for
00:33:51
I love the performance metrics and that you led with that because most people gosh, I wish I
00:33:57
had the stat in front of me.
00:33:59
It was like I wanted to throw up because it was like a high number like seventy five percent of
00:34:05
people will never like run or sprint again, right?
00:34:07
And I'm like, Geez, man, I'm sprint training at least three days a week.
00:34:10
But like, I think what you said was the VO2 max, maybe I'd add on that like HRV, which is
00:34:16
that variability of like, how quickly does my heart spike and then come back down and then
00:34:20
maintain and particularly like overnight like sleep HRV is huge.
00:34:24
How are we recovering and recycling?
00:34:26
And then like REM sleep tracking.
00:34:29
And then like the biggest one for me, I think most I think pretty much every chronic disease,
00:34:35
cancer, like all these things are metabolic in nature.
00:34:37
I think they all have a metabolic back to it.
00:34:40
So like those factors, right?
00:34:42
Like what is the cholesterol plus inflammation kind of combo as well as like blood sugar
00:34:48
balance and we focus a lot on like being like metabolically flexible, like oh, you ate a meal
00:34:55
two hours ago, and then you like are crashing now, like you're not metabolically flexible.
00:35:00
Your body is not prepared to go a time without sugar coming into it.
00:35:05
So probably an insulin pathway is messed up.
00:35:08
The pancreas is probably struggling.
00:35:10
Yeah, I love the metabolic conversation.
00:35:13
That was my start into functional medicine the diabetes.
00:35:15
So I love it's funny when I say that.
00:35:18
I used to say it to students too.
00:35:19
Might have said it when I was in your class that I love diabetes, but I don't like
00:35:24
diabetes.
00:35:25
I mean, I like it as a condition to treat because type two is totally lifestyle oriented.
00:35:30
It's like, this is just a get rid of it because you want to and you do the right stuff.
00:35:35
It's not like something is wrong enough to need any other inputs other than your own choices.
00:35:41
It's awesome.
00:35:42
And the things we can do just behaviorally to increase insulin sensitivity, to decrease blood
00:35:48
glucose in the moment, you're so empowered to control that conditionget rid of completely
00:35:56
that condition, provided there's no end tissue death.
00:36:00
Right.
00:36:01
But it's a full reversal.
00:36:02
It can be a full reversal provided you haven't already gone blind or lost a limb or whatever
00:36:07
the end stage is.
00:36:09
Yeah.
00:36:09
Yeah.
00:36:10
You're not regrowing legs, but we help people reverse type two diabetes all the time and like
00:36:15
going from like again like what's the reference range and what where do they draw the line on
00:36:20
that because you'll go into the doctor's office and you'll be like a you know hemoglobin a1c of
00:36:24
like a 5.1 and they're like oh you're good.
00:36:27
It's like, No, dude, you're like about to like pop, know what I mean?
00:36:30
Yeah, you're right there.
00:36:31
And that's the whole functional reference range conversation.
00:36:33
I have a graph in my office and it's like, Okay, like if this is your reference range that
00:36:38
you get from your MD, this is the functional reference range.
00:36:41
Want to be in this category because if you're bordering here high, bordering low, you're not
00:36:45
necessarily healthy or optimal, right?
00:36:47
And so it's just a matter of time something spills over.
00:36:50
Having that as your target to be optimal.
00:36:54
I wish there were more of what people cared about because that as long as that's your
00:36:58
target, then you always have something to work toward, which gives you motivation to work in
00:37:02
the right direction.
00:37:03
Continually, a
00:37:04
lot of people, you see those patients all the time, they start feeling better.
00:37:09
They that's enough.
00:37:11
I'm done.
00:37:11
Yeah.
00:37:12
I'm done.
00:37:12
But they're not actually healed yet.
00:37:14
And, you know, the same thing is with people's goals.
00:37:18
So, like, why I I can do my daily tasks, but my daily tasks are so non stressful or non
00:37:24
intensive that just because you can do your daily test, doesn't mean you're healthy.
00:37:28
Yeah.
00:37:28
So having an optimized focus in people's minds would be a great societal shift to throw into
00:37:35
play.
00:37:36
Yeah.
00:37:36
And it's unfortunate because, again, people aren't kind of talked to like that.
00:37:41
They're like, yeah, you're good.
00:37:42
Just keep going doing your thing and when it becomes a problem, come back and we'll get you
00:37:46
some more meds.
00:37:46
It's like, know, like most people don't make a decision like a major health decision till it's
00:37:51
something's gone wrong.
00:37:52
I mean, that's the nature of like what we see in the chiropractic side of our business as
00:37:57
well is that like, it's not until a herniated disc that they come in.
00:38:00
It's like, if you would have got ahead of this like three years ago, like we wouldn't even be
00:38:03
having this conversation, you know, you could have prevented all of this.
00:38:06
So prevention again, right?
00:38:08
What is it?
00:38:08
An ounce of prevention is where the pound of cure or whatever they say like, it's
00:38:11
you mentioned you sprint three times a week.
00:38:13
And I'm I'm glad to hear that.
00:38:15
One of the things so one of things I'm into now, 45 and I've got a kid.
00:38:19
Just kind of like the crew I roll with now is kind of like dead folk.
00:38:24
And
00:38:25
yeah, yeah.
00:38:27
With aging, sprinting is one of
00:38:29
those things if you don't keep it up, if
00:38:30
you don't keep ballistic capacity up in your tendons, tendons will get fragile and you won't
00:38:36
be able to.
00:38:36
And then your chances of ruptures go up.
00:38:39
Oh, yeah.
00:38:39
And then you ever notice when you look at somebody moving around and somebody looks old
00:38:44
versus somebody who looks youthful?
00:38:47
Yeah.
00:38:47
It's it's more about, like, their bounce and fluidity and control than it is their hair
00:38:53
color and, you know, like, they gray?
00:38:55
Are they not?
00:38:55
You know, it's it's more are they alive?
00:38:57
And
00:38:58
Right.
00:38:58
And, you know, peppy looking.
00:39:00
And Tennant Health has a lot to do with that.
00:39:02
So sprinting, it's that's one of things.
00:39:04
Whether you keep it in three times a week for the rest of your life or whatever, make sure it
00:39:08
doesn't go lower than one time a week, you know?
00:39:10
Yeah.
00:39:11
Yeah.
00:39:11
Well, man, I I still play men's lacrosse at a high level, right?
00:39:15
I'm playing a pretty competitive level.
00:39:17
I had taken some time off when I moved and and got into starting my business and all this
00:39:22
stuff, and I hadn't played for probably like five or six years after college.
00:39:25
Then I was like, I want to get back into it.
00:39:27
First, like, or like, second time back I like ended up like pulling my hamstring and it was
00:39:32
like, okay, that's a little wake up like I'm not just going to go from like, what I was
00:39:36
doing more so like lifting and stuff like bodybuilding ish to like back to this.
00:39:40
So then now I've been training more functional again and 100% what you just said like that
00:39:45
bounce like I feel that bounce again.
00:39:46
I'm actually like probably faster and more like dynamic than I was even in college.
00:39:51
And I'm doing a lot of other things.
00:39:52
Have more knowledge as to how to do that right?
00:39:55
Right.
00:39:55
College, I can't say I was like the healthiest.
00:39:57
Was like, you know, doing the basic college stuff, like eating crap because I was poor.
00:40:01
But, you know, now I'm able to like get ahead of these things.
00:40:04
And so, yeah, man, again, if you don't use it, you lose it.
00:40:07
And that's good to see.
00:40:08
I mean, how old are you now?
00:40:09
I'm 33.
00:40:11
Okay.
00:40:12
So not that old, but it is worth noting that at any age, can improve I'll just stick on tenant
00:40:19
health, but you can improve any health marker, but tenant health included.
00:40:23
So maybe when you're if you start at 90, you're not gonna get to your 17 year old self, but
00:40:28
your 90 year old self your 91 year old self can be better than your 90 year old self.
00:40:32
Yeah.
00:40:32
So we always have this healing capacity that can always happen so that it's always
00:40:36
worthwhile to try and do better.
00:40:38
Yeah, and that's that's awesome because that just made me think of like the concept of like
00:40:41
biological age versus like calendar age, right?
00:40:45
Calendar ages, we're just counting days and years, right?
00:40:47
Biological age is like internally and like systems wise and on a cellular level, like what
00:40:53
is my age showing?
00:40:54
And so, I'm probably like biologically like in my 20s, just because I'm on all, you know, I'm
00:40:59
doing all the right things.
00:41:01
Move my body every single day, I push my body to a high level where then it has to recover.
00:41:05
Sleep like, I mean, I sleep like a bear deed, like I'm optimized my sleep.
00:41:09
My room is like the sleep like chamber.
00:41:12
I got the cooling bed mattress.
00:41:14
I got all this stuff.
00:41:15
So, it's like, it's, you know, that because to me, that's so vital.
00:41:18
Can't do my job perform if I'm not recovered.
00:41:23
And so, you know, it makes me more able to, like, help other people too, which is
00:41:27
ultimately the goal.
00:41:29
Yeah.
00:41:30
And, you know, recovery is the essential piece.
00:41:33
If you're talking about fitness, you're talking about mental tasking.
00:41:36
You're talking about anything where you're expending an energy toward a goal, that's all a
00:41:42
request.
00:41:42
Like fitness, like doing a workout is a request.
00:41:45
The recovery is your body answering with the adaptation.
00:41:48
And same thing with neurological rehab when I'm doing concussion stuff.
00:41:53
If you're doing concussion rehab, you're taxing neurons.
00:41:57
So there needs to be a recovery period for them to then adapt and accept the stimulus you just
00:42:02
put into it and create a capacity to deal with that.
00:42:05
So not having a good recovery game or thinking that's a superfluous, you know, unnecessary
00:42:10
piece of of the pie is a bad idea.
00:42:14
So Yeah.
00:42:15
That's a good thing to impress on people, especially when they're getting into fitness.
00:42:18
They're like, you know, okay, I'm I'm doing this thing and that's all I need to do.
00:42:23
But you got to do the backside to recover and actually grow from it.
00:42:27
Yeah.
00:42:28
And it's also the concept of like volume too, right?
00:42:30
Like most people start working out and they tend to do too much or a lot of people will do
00:42:34
that.
00:42:35
And I used to do that.
00:42:36
I'd be training like six days a week lifting, lifting, lifting, doing all this stuff.
00:42:39
I'm like, why am I like not getting as good of results and I'm sore all the time?
00:42:43
So then you drop down to like a three day a week like split, maybe throw in some.
00:42:47
Justin Yeah, exactly.
00:42:48
Yeah, you feel great.
00:42:49
And your body's actually healing more and you're going get better results from less.
00:42:53
And so that's like efficient, right?
00:42:56
Yeah, I love that concept.
00:42:57
Like volume is so important.
00:42:59
And being an exercise science major in undergraduate, I definitely, like, had an idea
00:43:04
of what that looks like.
00:43:04
You know?
00:43:05
It's a that's free individual too.
00:43:08
You have to be in tune with yourself enough to or use metrics.
00:43:12
So either in tune yourself enough to know, am I recovered or am I not?
00:43:16
But that's where a lot of these wearables come in.
00:43:18
And like
00:43:19
I had a think I used Polar's watch with all biometrics on it.
00:43:25
Don't worry, I left it on airplane mode.
00:43:27
But Yeah.
00:43:30
Right.
00:43:30
You know, once I I I wanted to know how I was sleeping.
00:43:33
I wanted to know some of these metrics for for data purposes.
00:43:37
But then I was able to understand how I felt at different points.
00:43:40
And so then I didn't need the watch anymore for the data because I I could actually intuitively
00:43:45
know what my numbers were just how I Yeah.
00:43:48
Yeah.
00:43:48
That's awesome.
00:43:49
And, I I wear the Garmin, and I love it because it tracks HR V and I do wear it at night and so
00:43:55
again like the Wi Fi at night probably not a 100% the best but like I do so many other good
00:44:00
things that I'm almost like it's worth it to me to know that kind of stuff because I will tell
00:44:05
when I'm overreaching or if I'm overtraining because my HRV will start dropping and I'm
00:44:09
like, like, like this is off, like what's going on?
00:44:12
Oh, I actually do kind of feel shitty right now.
00:44:14
Should take a little mental note of that and, know, try to dial it back this week, do like
00:44:18
maybe like a deload week where I'm not doing as much intensity, but maybe more like aerobic,
00:44:24
right?
00:44:24
Some jogs or runs or even walks, right, with the kids or something.
00:44:28
So just knowing how to like fluctuate that depending.
00:44:32
Yeah.
00:44:32
Yeah.
00:44:33
You may find that you're like, I didn't change my workouts at all.
00:44:36
It's weird.
00:44:36
But then you notice you were stressed for the last couple of days.
00:44:40
Yeah, definitely.
00:44:40
Emotionally stressed and then it trashed your HRV.
00:44:43
So it kind of proves to you that other factors in your life besides just the workouts affect
00:44:48
these things just as much.
00:44:49
Yeah, that's right.
00:44:50
And we kind of talk about like these six pillars where it's like fuel, movement, sleep,
00:44:54
mind, body, or mind, spirit, and work.
00:44:57
Right?
00:44:57
And like those six things and it's like taking mental inventory, right?
00:45:01
And the super simple like scorecard we use is like rank yourself one to 10 on each of those,
00:45:06
right?
00:45:06
And then where you may be doing the worst where you need to improve that, right?
00:45:09
It's like dude, I'm dialed on my workouts and dialed my sleep.
00:45:12
Nutrition is good, but man, like mentally like I'm pretty burnt right now with work.
00:45:16
Let me kind of like maybe take pause or like change the pace a little bit there.
00:45:21
So that I can find more of like that equilibrium and everywhere else.
00:45:25
And against objective right scorecards man like we write that's everything is test don't guess
00:45:30
so.
00:45:31
And that's awesome let's real quick before we can wrap up here and we're going for a while
00:45:35
but I love the conversation.
00:45:38
We're both in this functional medicine space and so again it's all about like what we call
00:45:42
real health care this is health care not a the sick care disease care model.
00:45:47
And so, when you work with patients and you're doing, like, what you starting with?
00:45:54
Are you starting with more of the let's run some comprehensive blood work?
00:45:57
Are you getting a symptom checklist?
00:46:00
Like how do you start that?
00:46:01
So mind you, I am just coming off of eight years of teaching.
00:46:05
So my and I did practice most of that time on the side, but it was just small volume.
00:46:12
So my and actually, funny enough, it was probably half functional medicine.
00:46:16
So still small volume, though.
00:46:18
But what I would do is I would do a simple questionnaire.
00:46:21
So I'm actually doing a questionnaire that identifies systems first so I know where the
00:46:25
highest priority testing goes.
00:46:27
Mainly, it's for efficiency and for cost.
00:46:31
A lot of you just test everything all at once.
00:46:33
It can be pretty expensive.
00:46:36
And so I want to dial into biggest bang for the buck first, and that's generally how I go with
00:46:41
it.
00:46:42
Nice.
00:46:43
Yeah, everything you just said is exactly what we do.
00:46:45
I always tell patients that I'm like, hey, depending on what you want to look for and what
00:46:49
your budget is, like we can look for, you know, best bang for your buck.
00:46:53
We run like a comprehensive panel that it's probably somewhere around like $5.04, $500 or
00:46:57
I'm like, we can look for everything and you're probably looking at like couple grand.
00:47:01
It's like, what's your like, what's your starting point?
00:47:04
And then what do we need versus what do what would be nice?
00:47:08
And I kind of like give them that option to I'm like, Hey, I need to see this gut panel.
00:47:11
You have had diarrhea for the last ten years, or I need to see, right?
00:47:15
Like, need to see these things like you can't fall asleep, but then you're tired all day.
00:47:19
I got to see your cortisol.
00:47:20
Like, you know, the non negotiables and then obviously the like, Okay, it'd be nice to see
00:47:24
an extra panel here.
00:47:27
But yeah, man, we created a pretty cool and you and I can, we should link up outside of this
00:47:32
and chat We created a cool like functional medicine primary care program within our office
00:47:37
too, to help kind of get people away from that model, which is like, man, if had a dollar for
00:47:42
every patient that came in and was like, Man, yeah, I went to my doc and you know, they did
00:47:46
blood work.
00:47:46
I'm not really sure.
00:47:47
Like, they didn't tell you anything?
00:47:49
It's like, Man, like, what is going on here?
00:47:51
I'd actually love to jam on that because that I mean, like I mentioned from the get go with my
00:47:55
impression of functional medicines, I want that to be what primary care is.
00:47:58
So, I'd love to
00:47:58
help promote
00:47:59
that for you and then check out what you got going on.
00:48:02
Yeah for sure and again man it's like the concept is like using the functional medicine
00:48:06
the lifestyle medicine which is very much like.
00:48:09
Taking inventory on someone's life like hey you need to be going to bed before 2AM in the
00:48:13
morning you got kids and like you're chronically stressed right like that kind of
00:48:16
stuff plays into it.
00:48:17
But then ultimately, I want to get you so educated that like you run blood work for
00:48:22
yourself.
00:48:23
You read your own blood work and then you can like ultimately like work on things right and
00:48:27
know what that looks like like I teach every patient how to read their blood work, how to
00:48:32
look at an X-ray and say, Hey, like what's going on here?
00:48:34
And they're like, Oh yeah, that disc is pretty compressed.
00:48:36
Whereas like most people have never seen an X-ray of their spine.
00:48:39
It's like
00:48:40
So it's actual appropriate patient education during your review of findings.
00:48:43
That's spectacular.
00:48:44
Crazy.
00:48:44
Right?
00:48:45
So crazy.
00:48:46
Who would do such a thing?
00:48:47
Who would say?
00:48:48
Yeah.
00:48:50
That's awesome.
00:48:51
Well, we're definitely gonna gonna connect on some things and, hopefully, more conversations
00:48:55
too, man.
00:48:55
This is really good.
00:48:56
Maybe get even a little bit more nitty gritty.
00:48:58
But before we wrap up, tell people where they can maybe learn more about you like online
00:49:04
podcast and kind of, you know, follow along.
00:49:07
Alright.
00:49:08
So, the podcast is it's new.
00:49:09
It's launching this week actually.
00:49:11
So the podcast is called RadHealth, r a d, and I'll get a whole video on what that rip what
00:49:18
that actually means.
00:49:19
RadHealth podcast.
00:49:20
It's spit out to every, you know, podcast host, so you can find it anywhere.
00:49:25
Cool.
00:49:25
Or on YouTube.
00:49:26
Doctor Dan Cooper is my YouTube page, and I've got the video versions of them up there.
00:49:32
The only other social media I actually use, I might branch out.
00:49:35
I freaking hate social media, but, I may have someone else branch out for me and use some
00:49:39
other social medias.
00:49:40
But, currently, it is doctor Dan Cooper on the old Instagram.
00:49:44
There you go.
00:49:45
Awesome.
00:49:45
D r
00:49:46
d Cooper
00:49:46
too.
00:49:46
Not not doctor spelled out.
00:49:48
Cool.
00:49:48
And this episode is probably gonna launch, like, a little bit later, like, maybe, like,
00:49:51
four or five weeks because we got a few on the docket.
00:49:53
So listeners, you know, you'll probably have a few episodes of Doc's podcast to go listen to
00:49:58
by then.
00:49:58
So that'll be good to go check them out.
00:50:00
But
00:50:00
Yeah.
00:50:00
Entire week, so hopefully, they'll have a bunch.
00:50:03
Yeah.
00:50:03
Awesome, man.
00:50:04
That's really good.
00:50:05
Well, man, I really appreciate you coming on.
00:50:07
Is there anything else you wanna leave us with or any kind of last last things, insight words?
00:50:14
Debt advice?
00:50:20
I'm not really I mean, just to you know, yeah.
00:50:26
To look at your life is something that you have actual control over.
00:50:28
Life is not happening to you.
00:50:30
Life is something that you create, and your experience in life is what you create.
00:50:33
And so take ownership of that and put in the work.
00:50:38
And sometimes that's internal work, but, once you find out a path, chase that path like it's
00:50:43
like it's a lion running after you because then you will have the life that you want faster
00:50:47
than later.
00:50:48
That's phenomenal, man.
00:50:49
I love that.
00:50:50
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00:50:52
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