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I entered 2016
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broken in a 100 k in immediate debt.
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And within 18 months,
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I was admitted.
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And I attribute that to me making the conscious decision to raise my standards and shame on my
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end.
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I started to form the identity of the and that I wanted.
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I started to just look at my actions and understand what got you here won't get you
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there.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Where you are right now?
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Is because of the way you look.
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Anything that happens to fall in the middle, how we think determines what we do.
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Right?
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And and and and how we think through what our standards are, and I just decided to raise my
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standards so fucking high that you know, things had to change.
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I I basically forced the result.
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And, you know, during that process, I lost a lot of people, of course, because not
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everybody's gonna make the climb with you.
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Absolutely.
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What's up, man?
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What was back to full fueled?
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It's good to be here.
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It's your host, Doctor Alfred Lessi.
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And Mattag.
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And we have a very special guest today.
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A rock star, actually.
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Someone who fits exactly into our culture and the message that we're trying to spread human
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optimization.
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Chris Cavalini is a former Navy diver of Forbes featured entrepreneur, the CEO and founder of
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nutrition solutions.
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A premier healthy meal delivery service and the host of the personal development podcast, the
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start today podcast.
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Chris also has a peak performance coaching for men.
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His clientele include elite pro athletes, WWE superstars, entrepreneurs, and driven men who
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want to dominate in each of the primary human metric.
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Body mindset, money, and life.
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Chris's goal and what he believes to be his destiny in life is to help people produce
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positive lasting change and become the upgraded versions of themselves.
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He spends his days educating, coaching, and mentoring others so they can experience the
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same.
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Chris has battled extreme adversity hardship and discomfort that has led him to be where he
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is today.
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He's here to help you and everyone to learn how to become comfortable being uncomfortable.
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Chris.
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Welcome to the show, bro.
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Thank you for the intro, man.
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Welcome to the show.
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Keep going, bro.
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Keep going.
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Yeah.
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Those little roll there.
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Yeah.
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It's awesome to have you.
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You just told the story.
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I don't I don't even know.
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Yeah.
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Cut the
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clip in there.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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Thank you for watching.
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Oh, that's awesome, man.
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How are you doing today?
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Good, man.
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Everything's good.
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Thank you guys for having me on.
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Yes, sir.
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No.
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Absolutely, man.
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Thanks for, thanks for coming on the show, dude.
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You got a you got quite the story.
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So we've been obviously falling along.
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You have a production, things going on.
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You're definitely an entrepreneur.
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So I wanna dive a little bit into that, but One of the things is and you're pretty open about
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it.
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You gotta rest it 17 times.
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I gotta rest more than that.
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I gotta rest it 17 times before my 18th birthday.
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Before your 18th birthday.
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After that.
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Yeah.
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Another half a dozen times after that.
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So No way.
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Yeah.
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Good times.
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And, but, like, the redemption, man.
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And then you obviously have you're promoting this lifestyle, where how many how many lives
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have been changed, obviously, through your program, even through, your nutritional
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platform.
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I would like to think, a lot.
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You know, we've been doing this a long time.
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I have an amazing team and, We pride ourselves on helping our clients get in the best shape of
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their life with no stress.
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Our company is by definition, a healthy meal preparation service, but really we're a
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lifestyle transformation business.
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Totally.
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Our ecosystem is very much a gear around personal that's that starts internally.
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And I think that the most pure form of personal development is fitness.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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I'm a big, I I said this in our last podcast, like, Jim quick.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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He always says, like, when the body moves, the mind moves.
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Yep.
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You know, that it it seems like you had that transitionary period of you obviously picked up
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a dumbbell at some point.
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You are Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, What was that what was that pivotal mo pivotal moment that was like, man, that was
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that was the it that really spawned the thinking of Chris.
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When I was, in the 8th grade, I, lived to waits for the first time, and I just re I really
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enjoyed And after, you know, about a year or so, once I once I started, high school in the
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9th grade, then I had access to weight room all the time, and I pretty much never left it.
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The weight room gave me the ability to feel significant it gave me a positive outlet to
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focus on during a period of time where I didn't have a lot of positive things happening.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, the weight room was just an escape for me to kind of work out some of my
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aggression and just do what I could to to to give myself the competitive edge.
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I mean, I was a very secure kid.
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Obviously, the way that I came up, you know, my mom was a drug addict, had me at 16.
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Father took off froze, even born, so never even was in and out of foster homes, group homes
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juvenile detention centers and jail cells.
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So I had a lot of trauma, a lot of adversity, a lot of hardship that I experienced early on,
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and I'm very fortunate that because unbeknownst to myself, you know, at the time, it was
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equipping me with skills and capabilities to go on and do things with my life that are
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considered to be statistically well.
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So I I do think that I was very fortunate to have the childhood that I had, and I wouldn't
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change a thing.
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That story as you know, hard as it was a negative was, like, your trajectory.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It was the baseline, though.
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So I didn't I didn't have an awareness.
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True.
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Conscious, consciously of the fact that, oh, it's hard.
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I I knew things were different for me than, you know, most of the friends that I had and people
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I knew But, you know, you don't know any other way.
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So, if everything, you know, everything happens
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for a reason, I definitely believe that
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the
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worst things to happen to us are actually the best things to happen to us provided you have
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the right perspective.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And so the story goes, you were obviously in and out of, you know, like you said, Juvy,
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jail, all this.
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What was the what moment change that.
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You went to the military.
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Right?
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So what caused what happened?
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So like I said, I was arrested seventeen times from my 18th birthday.
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Eventually, the state of Massachusetts where I grew up gave me an ultimatum.
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Either go to jail or join the military.
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So as much as I would love to sit here and tell you that from a very young age, it was always a
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dream of mine to honor and serve.
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That's that's not the way it went down, for me, but the military not only changed my life and
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argument can be made that it saved it.
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It did so many things for me and still discipline and still the work ethic.
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Gave me the opportunity to be around a much high value men.
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I was a navy diver.
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I was in a a very elite community.
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Yeah.
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70% attrition rate.
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70% of the people who starts the training will not make it through for one reason.
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Or another.
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It was pretty difficult training, but for me, compared to some of the things that had already
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been through, I mean, it sucked, but it it it wasn't that bad.
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Gonna harden already.
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Yeah.
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I was I was kinda harden already.
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Fortunately, when I arrived at my first team, I was welcomed with open arms.
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And, you know, there's a lot of guys there who older more experience kinda saw some potential
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in me, but also saw that I was rough around the edges and and and look, they put their foot in
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my ass a lot, you know, because it was needed back then.
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And they, they helped me grow up.
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They told me and or showed me how to conduct myself like a professional, like a man live
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with honor, honors, you know, the probably single most important virtue as it relates to
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the diving community.
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There's a movie actually called Men of Honor about navy divers.
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So really, it just started to instill qualities in me that I didn't have and and and gave me a
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path and productive purpose.
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A reason to wake up every day and and actually be proud of what I was doing for the first time
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in my life at that point.
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K.
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And so when did, like, the because, obviously, you on this premier healthy food service, when
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did Like, what led you that way?
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Like, nutrition
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and stuff because
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you're into fitness, but not necessarily nutrition's kind of a different sphere.
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So Again, I'm not sure how much you're you're familiar with my story, but I was in the
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military for 5 years.
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5 of the most exciting years of my life.
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And I grew a lot, and I learned a lot.
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And I became a different person.
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I became a better person, but I made the decision to get out after 5 years not
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recognizing how massively valuable the military was for me being and continuing to be the
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person that I was at that point.
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I regressed very quickly.
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You know, somebody like me who comes from what I did, I basically, you know, on a Tuesday, got
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out of the military.
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And overnight, I lost all of my structure.
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I lost my purpose.
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I mean, in the military, you know, where to be, when to be there, what uniform to be wearing,
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their training.
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I mean, everything is just set up very regimented, very systemic, just a well oiled
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machine, right, that forces the result that thereafter.
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When I got out of the military, I no longer had that.
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I, basically just, you know, lost my mind.
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I I started working in a strip club.
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That work initially as a young man, twenty three years old, it sounded like a dream come
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true.
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It's like, alright.
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Wait a minute.
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They're gonna actually pay me to work in this establishment where I get to look at hot naked
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women all night.
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Like, sign me up.
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But for someone like me, you know, I I was prone to violence, angry, insecure.
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This is very confrontational.
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Being in that environment wasn't optimal for somebody who's wired the way that I was.
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So I found myself, you know, getting in a lot of fights at work, right, messing with the
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girls, constant drama with the girls, right, young man in that atmosphere.
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Yeah.
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And, it was just stressful.
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It got to the point where it was this very very stressful.
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Eventually, just decided that I couldn't do it anymore.
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I quit and became a full time drug dealer.
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I sold steroids for 7 or 8 years.
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And, I think I started, like, dabbling into that a little bit when I was in the strip club
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you know, I would get some stuff for myself and maybe pick up some things for some friends and
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we put in an order together.
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And then I started to just realized that there was an opportunity here to maybe make some
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money off this.
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And
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that's exactly what I did.
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I mean, and I lived a very fast life.
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I spent the majority of my twenties partying, selling steroids.
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I was making a lot of money, making a lot of cash, coming in fast, going out faster, and I
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was out all the time, you know, 6, 7 nights a week at that point, bottle service, chicks, had
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really nice cars.
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I was a very flashy drug dealer.
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And I I would which is just idiotic.
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Right?
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You have that idea.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's it's not not smart, but I was young and just not aware and I didn't have a regular job.
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So that's the other part that's probably important to point out.
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I didn't really care.
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I just That's where your entrepreneurship job.
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Yeah.
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It began.
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Yeah.
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Well, actually, in high school.
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I sold a little wheat in high school.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I sold a little wheat in high school, and that kinda gave me a taste for buying something and
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then turning around and flipping it and such.
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But yeah.
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But, you know, the the the the the fact is, you know, I'm not proud of I did in the past that,
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again, I wouldn't change it.
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It's it's part of my story.
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It's it's allowed me to arrive where I am today.
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But eventually, you know, I got to a point where things started to get really stressful
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again.
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Things started to get really stressful.
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The people that I was hanging around with drug dealers hanging with other drug dealers.
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People started to go people started to get caught and sent to prison.
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People were a lot of them were snitching on one another.
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And that was a a defining moment for me realizing that this is now the fraternity, the
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ecosystem, if you will, that I was in.
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I I I came from a fraternity where the code was
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honored.
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And now I'm in this other world and the people who were supposed to be my friends.
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I mean, they are just showing clear just no issue whatsoever, destroying somebody else's
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life, destroying somebody's family's life simply because they weren't man enough to be
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held accountable or take personal responsibility over their actions.
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That made me And I realized that I needed to start making some changes, and I had absolutely
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no idea what I was going to do.
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I'd absolutely no idea what I could do.
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I did know that it was important to me to start making changes, and I was willing to do
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whatever it took for as long as it took.
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And I went to a mentor of mine at the time as a friend a guy had access to, probably the only
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successful person that I had access to at that point in time.
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And I put my cards in the table.
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I let him know that where I was at, what I was doing, and that I wanted to change.
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And I didn't ask him for a handout.
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I didn't ask him for a job.
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I didn't ask him for anything other that could point me in the right direction.
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And he gave me two pieces of advice that changed my life and to this day continues to.
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He said that I needed to first start surrounding myself with people who are better
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than me.
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He said it just like that.
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He didn't say people are more he said people who are better than you.
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Get around people who are better than you.
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You need to watch what they do and model what they do.
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And
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then he said I need to spend every waking moment working on my personal development.
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He's like, you you got a victim mindset.
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He's like, I'm I'm sitting here listening to all the things you're saying.
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And you've just given me all these excuses as to why you are you are and why you've been
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doing these things.
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And and and it was true.
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Yeah.
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And it was true because at that time, I mean, I had all these stories that I told myself
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because I've been arrested.
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So many times I'd never be able to get a good job.
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Because of my upbringing, I'd always have these issues and I always have hard time with the
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relationships.
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All these things were true.
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But it wasn't a justifiable excuse to not be a good person.
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And you know, he basically told me he's like, you need to get in the books.
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He's like, you're in the gym all the time.
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He's like, look, personal development is to the mind what fitness is to the body.
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And that really made a lot of sense to me.
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Yeah.
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And
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he's like, you gotta get to work creating a new identity, and that's exactly what I did.
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I started immersing myself.
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In the pages of the books, you know, back then, this is, you know,
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to name a few.
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I know you have a few on your list.
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Yeah.
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Well, I've read over a 1000 books.
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I wrote over a 1000 books.
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And what I would like to say about that is that was actually a huge waste of time.
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And what I learned throughout the journey of reading over a 1000 books is I would have been
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better reading the same team to 20 just
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Yeah.
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Repeatedly because every time you hit a new level of consciousness, you are now it hits
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different.
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You're in a better position receive, you're gonna interpret things differently and more
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productively.
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Right.
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But, yeah, I mean, some of the books that I read initially, I think the the first book I
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read was Awakening within by Tony Robbins.
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If I was gonna recommend a book to somebody who was just kinda starting their personal
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development journey, it would unequivocally be change your thinking, change your life by Brian
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Tracy.
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That book has probably had the most significant impact on me.
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I've read it 5 or 6 times.
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And every time I've read it again, I've I've I've received something different.
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But just a, just a amazing depiction that helps you understand why you are the way you are and
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and and and how you think and and and gives you the ability, if you want to learn how to think
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differently.
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And I think that's really what personal development is about is about learning to think
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different.
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Yeah.
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And, man, I think a a big point to that is and this is exactly how you are.
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I have some similarities in, you know, not same level as you, but some things that happened to
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me when I was young that wasn't my choice, right, and these things that aren't necessarily
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your fault when you're a kid, but you can't, like, is escape that until you take
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responsibility.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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And, yes, it happened to you, not by you, but if you can take accountability for it and
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responsibility for it, you can leave it behind.
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And then you can level up, like, the way you did.
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Yeah.
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No.
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You know that.
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And you're completely right.
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It may not have been your fault, but if it is touching you in some way, shape, performance
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impacting your state, then it is absolutely your responsibility to sort it out.
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Yeah.
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You can take control of it.
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So it's the perception at which you which you look at it, right, too.
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I mean, you can look at it with the context of the victim mentality, but, I mean, with, Tony
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Robbins awaking the giant within, it's the perception at which you look in that the, you
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know, the past direction that ultimately is determining what happens in the future.
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That's right.
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It's solid.
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Man.
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So why, like, prepared food?
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I know that kind of segues to tell, like, your business.
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But, like,
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so my dad owns a food importing company and just I know the food industry itself, man.
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There's a lot of logistics with that, making sure it's clean and, you know, obviously, food
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goes bad and that kind of stuff.
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So, like, what led you into, I wanna deliver healthy meals to people that are prepared for
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them to make it easy.
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Like,
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what's Yeah.
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So fitness is important to me.
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Obviously, we've discussed that at length.
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I think that, you know, you look around in society, three quarters of adult population are
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overweight, 40% of obese.
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Right?
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Tens of 1 are on anti depressants, the common denominator between people who most
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people, the
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overwhelming majority people who are depressed and
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and and on antidepressants the fact they're all overweight.
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I think that our food's a problem in this country.
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I think that people intuitively know that they should be eating better, but perhaps don't have
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the discipline, the knowledge, the there there's a lot of, yeah, education.
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There's a lot of different things, but either way, it's still again, it's not an excuse.
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You know, the the food that you put in your body objectively determines your quality life.
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It is directly proportional to the quality of your life.
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And I think that it's difficult in a very fast paced world.
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Everybody is busy.
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So many responsibilities and, the the the nearest convenience is is is is often
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attractive.
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You know, people are busy.
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People families have jobs and responsibilities.
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It's a problem because the food that we I mean, it goes in our body, right, goes in our body.
00:18:09
And I think people need to just have higher standards as it relates to what they put their
00:18:14
body because what you put in your body influences every area of your being physically,
00:18:20
mentally, spiritually, the way that the manner of which you age, I mean, the food you eat are
00:18:25
going to determine if you look your age, if you look ten years older, then you actually are ten
00:18:29
years younger.
00:18:30
Yeah.
00:18:30
So I wanted to figure out a way that I could make the process of eating well, the process of
00:18:40
you know, consuming quality nutrition effortless because I'd certainly didn't wanna
00:18:46
cook.
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I didn't I didn't I didn't wanna cook.
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I didn't wanna you know, spend the time grocery shopping.
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I don't wanna spend the time prepping, you know, doing a bunch of dirty dishes after the
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fact.
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So, you know, basically, what we do is we basically give people the tools that they need
00:19:02
to streamline the process of getting in the best shape of their life.
00:19:05
We make healthy eating and, you know, quote unquote dieting.
00:19:08
I hate using that word dieting because that's what most people say.
00:19:12
We make we make dieting not suck.
00:19:14
Yeah.
00:19:14
You know, a lot of times, I think people have the perception that healthy food is going to be
00:19:19
bland.
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It's gonna be boring.
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It's gonna be, you know, boiled chicken and
00:19:24
Yeah.
00:19:24
Asparagus.
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Lobster.
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Yeah.
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Just disgusting, you know, things that nobody is going to be able to sustain for the long
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term to, you know, be able to get the results.
00:19:34
Yeah.
00:19:34
So we pride ourselves on making dieting, not feel like dieting.
00:19:39
I mean, our menus system, things like fillet mignon, bison, elk, venison, antibiotic free
00:19:45
poultry.
00:19:47
We have even on protein donuts, on our menu.
00:19:49
Oh, those look great.
00:19:50
I've had those.
00:19:51
Yeah.
00:19:51
You've had those?
00:19:51
Yeah.
00:19:52
And you.
00:19:52
Yep.
00:19:53
I've they're phenomenal.
00:19:55
Yeah.
00:19:55
See, so it looks like the subsidiary.
00:19:57
Yeah.
00:19:57
1 of your reps was at F Forty 5.
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I tried them.
00:19:59
They're freaking unreal.
00:20:00
Yeah.
00:20:00
So the whole thing is people don't need a company like ours.
00:20:04
To get in shape.
00:20:05
They could do it on their own.
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The problem is most are just not.
00:20:08
Yeah.
00:20:08
And I say the most.
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I mean, the overwhelming majority are not.
00:20:12
The overwhelming majority of people are making decisions every single day as it relates to
00:20:15
foods that they're putting in their mouth that are making them fatter, that are making them
00:20:19
weaker, that are making them sicker, that are making them more depressed.
00:20:23
Yeah.
00:20:23
And, you know, in that process, making them a lot easier to control.
00:20:26
Yeah.
00:20:27
And, I mean, it's like, if you have the ability to pay someone to clean your house, pay someone
00:20:30
clean your car.
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You can pay to have food done for you.
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That way, it's easier too.
00:20:35
Right?
00:20:35
It's like leveraging your time.
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I know we always talk about that with, like, dude, I'm so busy right now.
00:20:39
You're so busy right now.
00:20:40
We have multiple different businesses going on.
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We're doing the show.
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We're doing all these things.
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I love premade meals.
00:20:45
It's
00:20:46
actually healthy premade meals.
00:20:47
Right?
00:20:47
I will not put fast food in my body.
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I don't even drive past a fast food place and and notice it anymore.
00:20:52
It's not considered food to me.
00:20:54
So, like, most times, if I'm not gonna get a healthy meal, I'm just gonna fast, or I may be
00:20:58
gonna hit a pouch or something, but Yeah, man.
00:21:00
That, I I think you, like, lower the barrier for people Yep.
00:21:03
Who maybe don't know how to cook, maybe don't wanna cook, maybe the, you know, whatever it
00:21:07
might be.
00:21:08
I've I've freaking think it's all.
00:21:09
What are you doing for longevity right now?
00:21:10
Well, I think I I was just gonna say to that point, I think every high performance
00:21:14
individual understands the importance of automating, delegating, and systemizing.
00:21:18
Oh, yes.
00:21:19
Right.
00:21:19
Right?
00:21:20
If you want to grow endlessly, you're gonna have to figure out how to get more done.
00:21:26
And you can only do so much yourself.
00:21:29
So anything that you can outsource, automate, delegate to somebody who can do it, just as
00:21:35
good, if not better than you can.
00:21:37
And in in in in this case, you know, my team of fitness chefs, they they they can cook.
00:21:42
They can the the chances are they cook a lot better than you.
00:21:45
So
00:21:45
that's right.
00:21:46
You know, and and the menu changes every week.
00:21:47
So you you don't have to think about what to eat or, you know, went to eat it.
00:21:51
The orders show up on your doorstep.
00:21:53
And, you know, I just think people underestimate how easy or how much easier it
00:21:58
would be to get the body that they want if at all times their refrigerator was full of clean
00:22:04
fuel.
00:22:05
Yeah.
00:22:05
Yeah.
00:22:06
We just linked up with a farm out of Georgia so that we can get grass fed that comes in.
00:22:11
So I might actually do it for a couple months.
00:22:13
I'll just get, like, a bulk of just meat that came in.
00:22:16
I'm actually going carnivore for February.
00:22:18
So I hate the diet thing too, but I'll do it in short term stretching.
00:22:22
Right?
00:22:23
Sure.
00:22:23
The, you know, what what I'm trying to do.
00:22:25
Well, that's what it is.
00:22:26
It's it's a when we say diet, it's a it's a short term And, again, like, you guys are in
00:22:31
shape.
00:22:31
I'm in shape.
00:22:32
So if we're gonna dye it, we're gonna, you know, maybe get a trip coming up or I get a
00:22:36
photo shoot going on.
00:22:37
Right.
00:22:38
You have a goal and, you know, you cut your calories down, do a a little more cardio,
00:22:42
whatever.
00:22:43
But the lifestyle, the lifestyle is what, you know, we're we're talking about and and and
00:22:50
people just I don't think are aware of how terrible they're eating habits actually are.
00:22:54
Yeah.
00:22:55
I don't think people understand how horrendous, highly processed food is for their health.
00:23:01
I mean, it literally over the last 50 to 60 years.
00:23:05
The instances of obesity.
00:23:08
I mean, it's parabolic.
00:23:09
Yeah.
00:23:10
Yeah.
00:23:10
Parabolic and, you know, we get a look at what has changed.
00:23:14
And the fact is the the implementation of highly processed foods, seed oils, things like
00:23:14
that are I mean, they're a huge problem.
00:23:24
And the problem is they're in everything.
00:23:26
People go on a grocery store, they pick something up off the shelf or they go to a fast
00:23:30
food place and they order it and in their mind, they're thinking, oh, okay.
00:23:34
They sell it here, so it has to be okay.
00:23:36
Yeah.
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But it's like, look at your body.
00:23:38
Yeah.
00:23:38
Naked.
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Yeah.
00:23:39
Yeah.
00:23:39
Right?
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How do you feel when you wake up in the morning?
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Damn.
00:23:41
Yeah.
00:23:42
Right?
00:23:42
Like, all these things, these are feedback.
00:23:44
And you gotta listen to the feedback that the universe gives you because it's there.
00:23:48
Yeah.
00:23:48
Or or,
00:23:48
like, how you feel.
00:23:49
Most people, like, just their normal is, like, feeling like crap all the time.
00:23:53
They don't even know what it feels like to feel normal and have a clear, like, brain.
00:23:57
Yeah.
00:23:57
You should not feel bloated Yeah.
00:24:00
Gassy, brain fog, or lethargic after you eat.
00:24:03
Yeah.
00:24:03
If if you do, then that, again, that's your body trying to communicate to you that what you
00:24:08
have just put inside of it
00:24:10
Yeah.
00:24:10
Simply does not belong there.
00:24:12
Yeah.
00:24:12
But people are just ignorant and unaware Yeah.
00:24:16
And, you know, which is why we need to have the conversation because I think awareness is key.
00:24:20
And I think a lot of times people don't recognize how disadvantageous their lifestyle
00:24:27
choices are because that's all they've ever done.
00:24:29
They do not have anything else to compare it to.
00:24:31
Yeah.
00:24:31
But I'll I'll say, like, if you don't eat well, You're not mindful of the foods that you're
00:24:36
eating.
00:24:36
If you eat good for one day, you will feel
00:24:40
Mhmm.
00:24:41
A little different.
00:24:42
And and that's just an indication of, like, you know, what what's gonna happen after a week, a
00:24:46
month, a year once this actually becomes who you are to the core.
00:24:49
Or or if I, like, even if you don't eat for a day, right, you feel like completely different.
00:24:55
You're like,
00:24:55
what the heck just happened there?
00:24:56
Oh, because I didn't put shit in my body.
00:24:58
Right.
00:24:58
Because the onslaught of your gun
00:25:00
of, like,
00:25:01
just It just, like, deflained a little bit.
00:25:03
Away.
00:25:03
Wow.
00:25:04
That's why I feel better.
00:25:05
Yeah.
00:25:05
Yeah.
00:25:06
Our first episode was about this.
00:25:07
And that's
00:25:08
why I said you align so much with us is because, like, your message and our message are
00:25:11
the same.
00:25:11
We we did that on purpose because we want people to one wake up and understand that what
00:25:15
you're putting into your body not only fuels you, but it becomes you.
00:25:18
Right?
00:25:18
You break that down and then those pieces then ultimately become your cells.
00:25:22
Would you wanna find an airplane man on a cardboard?
00:25:25
I would not.
00:25:25
Right?
00:25:26
So, like, why are we gonna build our bodies out of crap?
00:25:28
Like, we gotta, you know, we gotta I love what you said.
00:25:30
Hold it to hold yourself to a higher standard, man.
00:25:32
What are you doing for longevity now?
00:25:34
Obviously, you're in real good shape.
00:25:35
I don't know if you're you're cutting right now, but either way No.
00:25:39
I mean, I'm I always stay in in good shape.
00:25:41
I mean, I am the CEO of a lifestyle transformation.
00:25:44
Yeah.
00:25:45
So you better.
00:25:45
Right?
00:25:46
Yeah.
00:25:46
And what type of hypocrite would I be if I was just just kinda fat lazy you know, normal
00:25:52
looking CEO, but I've I prioritize my longevity now over the last couple of years.
00:25:54
It's become much more of a priority.
00:26:01
I'm 41 now.
00:26:02
So as you get older, your goals change, your priorities change.
00:26:06
I will say I'm 41.
00:26:08
I'm in the best shape of my life.
00:26:10
I'm in the best shape of my life right now.
00:26:12
And, you know, the reason for that is as you continue to kinda operate at a higher level of
00:26:19
proficiency.
00:26:19
You figure out things that work.
00:26:22
Yeah.
00:26:22
Things that work.
00:26:23
You know, there's obviously always going to be a difference between what works and what best.
00:26:27
Yeah.
00:26:27
You know, but for me, obviously, I'm I'm training all the time.
00:26:30
I've I work out 6 days a week.
00:26:32
I do a combination of high intensity functional training, you know, traditional strength
00:26:39
training.
00:26:39
I do I I I literally just this morning, had a stairmaster that was delivered to my homes.
00:26:45
I got a stairmaster in my house now.
00:26:47
Yeah.
00:26:47
I haven't done steady state cardiac.
00:26:49
I haven't done steady state cardio consistently for probably 3 years.
00:26:53
Oh, wow.
00:26:53
So, yeah, I'm gonna bring this back in the game.
00:26:55
Here we go.
00:26:55
Yeah.
00:26:55
So that's gonna help me hit hit a new, hit a new stride.
00:26:59
I'm always doing, like, hit and training really aggressively.
00:27:01
So I get the the the cardiovascular benefit, but the steady state cardio, obviously, you
00:27:06
know, help peel off more calories and body fat when it's time to shred up.
00:27:10
I use the sauna 5 days a week.
00:27:12
I use the cold plunge every morning.
00:27:13
I have both of those at my house.
00:27:15
Yeah.
00:27:15
How long?
00:27:17
How long what?
00:27:17
Yeah.
00:27:17
How long are you in the cold lunch for?
00:27:19
3 minutes.
00:27:19
3 minutes.
00:27:20
Yeah.
00:27:20
3 minutes, 4 minutes to manage.
00:27:21
Yeah.
00:27:22
Yeah.
00:27:23
And my sauna, 20 to 25, no less than 20.
00:27:27
And misonic cranks gets about 220 degrees in there.
00:27:30
Okay.
00:27:31
Yeah.
00:27:31
So the the the research, the compelling research around the sauna is a 180 degrees.
00:27:36
If you do it a 180 degrees for 20 minutes, that's where the magic is going to happen.
00:27:40
No less than 20 minutes.
00:27:41
A lot of people make the mistake of getting out of the sauna.
00:27:43
As soon as it gets hot.
00:27:45
Yeah.
00:27:45
Once it starts to get uncomfortable.
00:27:46
Once it starts to get uncomfortable, just like all other things
00:27:49
in life.
00:27:50
Yeah.
00:27:50
Yeah.
00:27:50
That is when the good shit is just starting to So I don't really do a whole lot more than
00:27:56
that.
00:27:56
I mean, I take a lot of supplements.
00:27:58
Obviously, my diet is I don't wanna say my diet is perfect, but my diet is better than 99.8% of
00:28:04
the world's population simply because of what I do.
00:28:08
And I don't have to think.
00:28:09
I don't I don't I don't spend any time grocery shopping, cooking.
00:28:14
Yeah.
00:28:14
I just reached in my fridge.
00:28:15
I eat up a meal, and I eat it, and I get back to what the hell I'm doing.
00:28:19
Yeah.
00:28:19
And you prioritize protein.
00:28:20
That's kinda
00:28:21
my approach.
00:28:22
Yeah.
00:28:22
Yeah.
00:28:22
Yeah.
00:28:22
Yeah.
00:28:23
So as far as, like, you know, my my, kind of dieting or nutrition ethos, non negotiable, I'm
00:28:29
drinking a gallon of water every single day.
00:28:32
I get 1 gram of protein in per pound of my lean body mass when per pound of goal weight if you
00:28:38
don't know what lean body mass is.
00:28:40
For me, it's about a 190, a 190 grams.
00:28:43
And I found the easiest way to do that the most efficient way to do that, the most sustainable
00:28:49
way to do that is to get 70% of the protein from food and grass fed beef, antibiotic free
00:28:56
poultry, elk, venison, bison, etcetera, and the other 30% from a high quality protein
00:29:01
supplement.
00:29:02
So that's what I do.
00:29:03
And that, yeah, that makes it effortless.
00:29:05
And, you know, I'm not I don't I don't have time to eat six times a day.
00:29:08
I don't want to eat six times a day.
00:29:10
Yeah.
00:29:10
And I think that that's just a massive waste of fucking time.
00:29:14
I don't have that kind of time.
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You know?
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00:30:00
From an entrepreneurship side, you have, I mean, you have an eight figure company now.
00:30:04
Do you have multiple companies, or is it mainly just your nutritional?
00:30:07
Yeah.
00:30:08
I have, a coaching business.
00:30:11
I think you mentioned that at the beginning of this.
00:30:12
I have other investments, but nutrition solutions is my primary event.
00:30:16
Primary.
00:30:16
Yeah.
00:30:16
And that's what put me on the map.
00:30:18
I'm sorry.
00:30:18
I knew you had the I knew you had the coaching company as well.
00:30:21
So, but the can you take us through, obviously, a day?
00:30:25
You got a team probably on the nutrition side.
00:30:27
You gotta manage.
00:30:28
I'm sure you have Do you have a CEO in place for that company now?
00:30:31
No.
00:30:31
I'm the CEO.
00:30:31
You're the CEO on that company.
00:30:33
How many employees?
00:30:35
So we have 50 from operation from operational standpoint, we have 50, another 4 in finance, 5
00:30:45
or 6 in marketing.
00:30:46
So we got a pretty big team.
00:30:48
Yeah.
00:30:48
You got a good team.
00:30:49
And then how did you so this this is what's cool, right, is that you have a story behind
00:30:55
you.
00:30:56
That was a lot of, probably, disrepair, discomfort, but now you look at it as just like
00:31:02
your story that basically created this long journey.
00:31:05
But then a guy that essentially came from nothing.
00:31:08
Right?
00:31:08
You essentially can consider yourself an orphan.
00:31:10
Do you have a relationship with your mom right now?
00:31:13
I don't speak to my mom.
00:31:14
No.
00:31:14
Okay.
00:31:15
So you essentially in and out of homes, and now you're at the point where you've hit scaling
00:31:21
company.
00:31:22
You hired a few people.
00:31:23
Obviously, you had to create the business model essentially to create a company and scale it.
00:31:28
What did that process look like just from an entrepreneurship sampling.
00:31:31
And such a complicated
00:31:33
Yeah.
00:31:33
Answer to that.
00:31:34
Cause it
00:31:34
makes well, it it it is because it I mean, we could spend 5 fucking hours
00:31:39
on it.
00:31:39
But what I what I wrote, I will say it like if I had to if I had to boil it down to a couple
00:31:44
key points
00:31:45
Yeah.
00:31:45
It was first being very intentional about the results that I was looking to achieve.
00:31:52
Okay.
00:31:52
Being intentional with everything with every action, with every meeting, with every video
00:31:59
piece of piece of video content that we make every every day I want to be as intentional as
00:32:06
possible so I can force the result that I'm looking for.
00:32:09
And
00:32:09
when I started to be more intentional with my actions, That's when my circumstances started
00:32:14
to change.
00:32:15
I had a really hard year in 2015.
00:32:21
The worst year in my adult life.
00:32:23
Certainly, I was arrested for crimes that I'd committed 3 years prior.
00:32:28
I walked away from my previous life.
00:32:30
Thought I'd gotten away.
00:32:31
Thought I got away clean.
00:32:33
Of course, that's not the way the universe works.
00:32:35
Karma had other plans.
00:32:37
So I got arrested for crimes that I committed 3 years prior.
00:32:39
My bill was half a $1.
00:32:42
They wanted to get they wanted me to snitch.
00:32:44
I wouldn't snitch.
00:32:45
I I told them that that just simply appreciate You asking?
00:32:50
I said that's just not something that I would consider.
00:32:53
I said where I am today and what I've been able to do with my life to this point was a direct
00:33:00
result of me taking personal responsibility.
00:33:02
So the idea of destroying somebody else's life, destroying their family's life, because I
00:33:07
wasn't mad enough to be held accountable for my actions.
00:33:10
My crimes just it just seemed intuitively wrong to me, so I couldn't even consider it.
00:33:16
But, but, yeah, so got through that character building year.
00:33:21
I was looking at 14 years in prison.
00:33:23
I mean, literally I walked into a courtroom to be sentenced.
00:33:27
And that day, I I I prepared my life to the best of my ability leading up to that date.
00:33:32
For the very real possibility that I'd be going to prison that day.
00:33:36
And, just in a shocking twist of events the universe had other plans for me.
00:33:42
And I was not sent to prison, and I was given a felony probation.
00:33:47
The judge had basically fumilled familiarized yourself with my mitigation packet.
00:33:50
I had about a 100 character witnesses that showed up to to to speak on my behalf that day.
00:33:55
They didn't all speak.
00:33:56
But they were there to support.
00:33:57
I had people that I was in the military with who flew in in uniform to be there for me and
00:34:02
to support me.
00:34:03
And I think that sent a strong message about the person that I was today, and I wasn't in
00:34:08
there denying what had happened.
00:34:10
I I very much owned it.
00:34:11
I very much said, yes, I used to be this person.
00:34:14
Yes.
00:34:14
I I did all of these things that I'm being accused of and much more than I didn't get
00:34:19
caught for.
00:34:20
I was like, but I'm not that person anymore.
00:34:21
And I would love for you to take that into consideration.
00:34:25
And and and and they did because the purpose of the criminal justice system, the purpose of
00:34:31
incarceration is rehabilitation.
00:34:33
Yeah.
00:34:34
And the judges determined, and she had said this in open court, she determined that I had
00:34:38
successfully rehabilitated myself on my own.
00:34:41
So after I walked out of the courtroom that day, even though I was relieved about the fact
00:34:45
I wasn't going to prison, I realized me and that over the last however many years, I had
00:34:52
just been just half committed.
00:34:54
Mhmm.
00:34:54
Half committed to my business, half committed to my team, half committed to my life and it
00:34:58
just it I I just felt disgusted.
00:35:02
I felt disgusted, and I was pissed off.
00:35:03
I was pissed off because, you know, during that time, My lack of commitment was a slap in the
00:35:08
face to all the people who supported me and believed in me during that time where a lot of
00:35:12
people did not.
00:35:13
Yeah.
00:35:13
So I I entered 2016 broke.
00:35:16
A $100 of immediate debt.
00:35:19
I had to, between my lawyer bills, between billing out of, billing out of jail.
00:35:25
I had to borrow some money from PayPal, who was our, payment processor at the time.
00:35:30
And the the reason I say immediate debt is when you borrow a 100 from PayPal, every time you
00:35:35
run a transaction, they're taking a piece of it to get their money
00:35:37
back.
00:35:37
100%.
00:35:38
So I entered 2016 broken in a hundred k in immediate debt.
00:35:42
And within 18 months, I was a millionaire.
00:35:44
And I attribute that to me making the conscious decision to raise my standards and change my
00:35:51
identity.
00:35:51
I started to form the identity of the person that I wanted to be.
00:35:57
I started to just look at my actions and understand what got you here won't get you
00:36:01
there.
00:36:01
Yeah.
00:36:02
Right?
00:36:02
Where you are right now is because of the way you think.
00:36:04
Good, bad.
00:36:05
Anything that happens to fall in the middle how we think determines what we do.
00:36:11
Yeah.
00:36:11
Right?
00:36:11
And and and and and and how we think determines what our standards are, and I just decided to
00:36:15
raise my standards so fucking high that, you know, things had to change.
00:36:22
I I basically forced the result and you know, during that process, I lost a lot of people, of
00:36:27
course, because not everybody's gonna make the climb with you.
00:36:29
Absolutely.
00:36:30
But I learned a lot about myself.
00:36:33
I have a a tremendous team like I alluded to earlier.
00:36:37
And, you know, we we've had some character building years.
00:36:40
We're a growing company, and we've been through some really, really tough times and challenges
00:36:44
together.
00:36:45
But really, at the at the heart of it all, what makes our company special.
00:36:49
And I think what is a massive contributing factor to the success that we've seen is our
00:36:54
company culture.
00:36:55
Company culture is the single most important thing that a company can have if that company
00:37:02
wants to be successful.
00:37:04
And, you know, our team are, you know, all different walks of life, different age
00:37:10
demographics, but they're all on the path that our clients are on.
00:37:15
So I pay my team to work out twice a week before work.
00:37:19
We have workouts.
00:37:20
That's see.
00:37:21
Yeah.
00:37:21
I won't just like in the military, I was fortunate in the military.
00:37:24
I got paid to work out.
00:37:25
The lifestyle.
00:37:26
And there's a reason for Like, they wanted us to be physically fit because they wanted us to
00:37:30
be the best.
00:37:31
Yes.
00:37:31
I want my team to be the best.
00:37:33
So, of course, I'm gonna contribute to you know, their physical fitness.
00:37:38
So I get out there with them and and we work out.
00:37:40
We do ice baths and all kinds of different mental toughness, building exercises and really
00:37:45
what that does is it obviously helps them become more fit, more strong, more disciplined,
00:37:50
build their belief in themselves.
00:37:52
And it, of course, in that processes, building team cohesion because the best way to bring a
00:37:57
group of people together is through purposeful suffering.
00:38:00
Yeah.
00:38:00
Again, the military, you're very, very close the people that you're with because you've
00:38:04
suffered together.
00:38:05
Yeah.
00:38:05
It sucks.
00:38:05
Yeah.
00:38:06
I get it.
00:38:06
Yeah.
00:38:07
So when we started doing that in 2016, That's really when things started to take off.
00:38:13
When I started to prioritize the culture and I started to ensure that everybody that I brought
00:38:16
on was a good cultural fit and in alignment with what it is that I was looking to do.
00:38:22
I have very high standards.
00:38:23
Yeah.
00:38:23
I have very high standards, and there are no instances, am I going to lower my standards to
00:38:27
make someone feel like less of a loser?
00:38:29
Yeah.
00:38:29
I'm never going to fucking do that.
00:38:31
Yeah.
00:38:31
I'm never going to do that.
00:38:33
And I made that very clear to all of the people on my team during different chapters where I
00:38:40
had to I mean, I've had I've had I've there was a day where I fired eight people in one day
00:38:45
before.
00:38:46
I mean, look, when when when you make the decision to raise your standards, you have to
00:38:52
burn your boats and you have to go on and you have to give yourself no other option.
00:38:56
Yeah.
00:38:56
But success and the the, you know, the the issue then was I had made a very poor hiring
00:39:02
decision bringing in a COO.
00:39:05
And, you know, what can I say shall get up to my inexperience complacency?
00:39:11
He ended up being, again, a just a awful, investment but he had brought in a bunch of
00:39:18
people who were not culturally aligned.
00:39:20
And it was making it very, very difficult because that was a tough year for us.
00:39:24
We were growing.
00:39:25
And The days were long and the shit was stressful.
00:39:27
So that you have people who are not about it, not culturally aligned.
00:39:31
Yeah.
00:39:31
Right.
00:39:32
Yeah.
00:39:32
That's gonna pose a multitude of issues than it did.
00:39:35
So, really, I think the short answer is raising my stand and
00:39:41
making the conscious decision to be intentional about not only maintaining my standards, but
00:39:47
looking for ways and opportunities to improve them.
00:39:50
That's ex dude, that's exactly what we need to hear because if we were talking, we're hiring a
00:39:54
lead doc for the clinic.
00:39:56
Right?
00:39:56
And it was the same thing.
00:39:57
It's like, do you if you're looking if you wanna be great in life, right, do you gotta
00:40:02
surround yourself with greatness or surround yourself with average, right, So you gotta hire
00:40:07
greatness to be great.
00:40:08
And that's what
00:40:09
I told him.
00:40:09
I was like, I wanna hire someone better than me.
00:40:11
I was like, I want someone to come in here and do the job that I've been doing better than I
00:40:14
am doing it and level this up with Right?
00:40:16
Because, essentially, I'm trying to step back from doing the day to day chiropractor
00:40:19
to have a doctor do it.
00:40:20
Right?
00:40:21
So so what's really important that you guys understand, how old are you guys?
00:40:24
I'm 32.
00:40:25
38.
00:40:26
Okay.
00:40:26
So what's really important for you guys to understand greatness needs to be developed.
00:40:31
You will never bring in somebody into this business that is great day 1.
00:40:36
Yeah.
00:40:36
They will not enter your business and then and then just make it that much better day works,
00:40:41
not work like that.
00:40:42
Now you can bring in somebody who has all of the right makings.
00:40:47
Yeah.
00:40:47
All of the right skills, the right mentality, the right attitude, the right goals, but it is
00:40:54
absolutely, you know, up to us as leaders to train and develop our people.
00:40:59
Absolutely.
00:41:00
And and and that's at Nutritional Solutions, something that, you know, we do every day.
00:41:04
We train every single day, constant training.
00:41:08
Again, I wanna force the result of improvement and the way that we're I mean, there's 2 ways
00:41:14
to get better.
00:41:15
Experience, which takes a long fucking time
00:41:17
Yeah.
00:41:18
And training.
00:41:18
Yeah.
00:41:19
So just, again, this is just something that the military instilled in the military basically,
00:41:24
all you did was train.
00:41:25
All you did was train to get ready for the real world scenario
00:41:29
Yeah.
00:41:29
When when that worst case scenario popped off.
00:41:32
So
00:41:33
yeah.
00:41:33
And you're a big proponent of, like, you know, big believer in second chances.
00:41:36
Obviously, with your story, man, you employ a lot of people that maybe have similar
00:41:40
backgrounds, gone through stuff, and, you know, you're You have a little empathy for that,
00:41:44
I'm guessing.
00:41:45
Yeah.
00:41:45
Yeah.
00:41:45
Yeah.
00:41:45
We probably employ convicted felons, people who have been to prison, people who have struggled
00:41:49
with substance abuse in the past.
00:41:51
Now, obviously, there's some restrictions to that, right, if somebody ever did something
00:41:56
that hurt a kid or an animal.
00:41:59
Obviously, yeah.
00:42:00
Yeah.
00:42:00
That is not anything that we would entertain, but if people, you know, again, what kind of
00:42:05
hypocrite would I be considering the life that I lived if if if I didn't give people
00:42:09
opportunities and, you know, some of my some of my best people are convicted felons.
00:42:14
I've been being completely honest.
00:42:15
Yeah.
00:42:16
Yeah.
00:42:16
I mean They're
00:42:17
trying to rise to to the
00:42:18
Well, they stand level
00:42:19
you are, man.
00:42:20
They know what the bottom tastes like.
00:42:21
And when you've been at the bottom and you understand what happens there and and you gain
00:42:25
that perspective, you're often willing to do whatever the fuck it takes to never have to
00:42:30
return to that place.
00:42:31
Mhmm.
00:42:31
So, you know, if you if you give people an opportunity, give them training, give them the
00:42:37
structure that they need to succeed.
00:42:38
Oh, convicted felon or not.
00:42:40
I mean, they can contribute.
00:42:42
Yeah.
00:42:42
And
00:42:42
that's really what it's all about is putting points on the board and moving the chains.
00:42:46
I love that too.
00:42:46
Putting points on the board and moving the chains.
00:42:48
And, literally, that's all.
00:42:49
But if you experience the bottom.
00:42:51
And I think that that's a term where, you know, different bottoms are different for different
00:42:56
people.
00:42:56
Yeah.
00:42:56
Obviously, But, man, I went through a hell of them in my mid twenties where I felt like I
00:43:01
reached the bottom, and I'm, like, angleing back there.
00:43:03
Yeah.
00:43:03
That's for sure.
00:43:04
Yeah.
00:43:06
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00:43:09
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00:43:13
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