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I am the billboard for my company.
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It's like if I wanna help people build muscle shred fat, then I just show that I can build
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muscle shred fat.
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So as long as I'm saying lean, as long as I'm sharpening my brain and learning more about
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nutrition, learning more about training, and just, like,
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always improving, and,
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like, how I can improve my knowledge.
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That's I'm gonna apply it to myself first, and then I'm gonna, like, obviously, read the
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literature, read the research, and then I, I apply it to my client and see what works, see
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what doesn't.
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Not like I'm using them as guinea pigs because I'm the guinea pig on
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a lot of things, and I'm not trying like crazy stuff, but if you're, like, trying to get a lot
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of people in your door at, like, you have, like, some some sort of, like, restaurant or
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something that's, like, really hard to maintain the outside of it.
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And, like, you want it to look good on the outside of people come inside.
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If it looks like crap, no one's gonna come inside.
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Same with me.
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I'm the billboard on the face of the company.
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I need to make sure that it looks good that it's it's inviting.
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It's welcoming.
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I'm my own marketing cool, if that kinda makes sense.
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Welcome to the full fueled podcast with your host, Matt Tack.
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Doctor Alfred Alezi.
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And Corey Van Dorn.
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Hi.
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He's included.
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Yeah.
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He's in.
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New guy.
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Well,
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introduce the man himself.
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Yeah, man.
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Hey.
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We got a an awesome guest today.
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Corey Van Dorn.
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He owns Van Dorn Nutrition, supplement company.
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He's also a fitness and health coach.
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We met, what was it, like, 6 months ago at a at a crunch fitness marketing event.
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Guy gave me a sample of his his pre work product, and I freaking had one of the best
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workouts ever.
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So and then it just kinda came to be like a chance meeting today where you were doing some
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freelance filming work.
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And we we booked some time with the company and they they hired him to come do it.
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And so we're like, dude, we gotta get you on the show, man.
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Get into some cool stuff.
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That's timing, man.
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That's all meant to be.
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That's right.
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And then you're, obviously, we shorten that up, but you're a an athlete, a forever athlete,
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what we call, obviously, a physique coach, do some coaching.
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And then but you were a, you were a division 2 wrestler, and an elite, high school athlete as
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well.
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So we'll tap into a little bit of, everything across the board.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah, man.
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So I appreciate the, introduction, man.
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Sure.
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Thank you guys for having me on.
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So it's pretty cool.
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Yeah.
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Like, like, Doctor Lessey was saying, man, met him at Crunch.
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I was selling some pre workout, giving out some samples and stuff.
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Got my guy down in on the Excel pump.
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And, yeah, randomly, I'm doing this, filming gigs.
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I filmed a little bit of, what, for ads.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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We're filming some Cairo ads.
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Yeah.
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Filming for some Cairo ads.
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And, he messages me on Instagram.
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And he's like, I thought he was like, knew that I was coming in to do this.
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And then I was like, he was like, dude, we're doing a podcast.
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You wanna do a podcast sometime?
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Like, we do them on Thursdays.
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Today is Thursday.
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And I was like, bro, you know, I'm coming in tomorrow.
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Right?
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And he was like, dude, no way.
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And I was
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like, what?
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Man.
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So Yeah.
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I was like, well, I already did set it up, but I had no idea, that you were coming in.
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It was pretty wild cause I I I was you were you followed me, and I honestly thought you were
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in, my elite level mastermind, like coaching.
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Oh, okay.
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And so I'm like, did he did he just join Dan Martell's program?
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And he's following me because I follow a few people, like, when I'm on those calls, And but
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we had texted, but I didn't know your last name.
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So then I was trying to put 2 and 2 together.
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I literally asked him yesterday.
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I was like, do you do you know this Corey Van Dorn guy?
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And he's like, no.
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And then I didn't remember your
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last name.
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The all this comes together this morning.
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And I'm like, You're like, actually, I do know him a couple of weeks ago.
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I was like, I do know this guy.
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I've met him 6 months ago.
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And, yeah, I remembered you.
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That is awesome.
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Small small world.
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It was meant to be, though.
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It's definitely meant to be.
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That's right, man.
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We were just talking about before the podcast a little bit.
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About, VO 2 Max.
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I just wanna tap into that.
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We'll get a little nerdy on that.
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And then we'll go into kinda your story too.
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But VO 2 Max have been reading this book with Peter Atiyah Outlive, and, he talks about the
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thresholds of what it means to Outlive.
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So you, as far as, like, programmatically, what we're doing, I always go back, like, what am I
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doing today to thank my eighty year old suffer.
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Would my eighty five year old self thank me today for doing that?
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And one of the things was VO 2 Max dive into that a little bit.
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Zone 2, zone 3.
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I know that you've tested that in college, but give us that story of even, like, one of your
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professors how he took the test, where you do, but, like, getting nerdy about that a little
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bit and talk chapter the VO 2 max testing.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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So everyone that has, like, a Garmin watch like, probably Apple Watches, Fitbits, whatever
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it is, it'll tell you, like, what your VO 2 max is and people will, like, try to compete and,
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like, they think that it's, like, reading.
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I don't know how accurate that is.
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And then Matt over here with telling me how he does different kettlebell training, getting
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into the different zones on where he's, like, trying to increase his VO 2 max.
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And I asked him if he's done a VO2 actual VO 2 max test, and he has not.
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So that's what we did.
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Both of us actually did exercise science in college, not at the same college, but we would
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do the testing and is this this treadmill.
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You get on it.
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You start on it.
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It's like at, like, maybe like a 15 in client.
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It's like a normal maxed out treadmill incline.
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And you're walking.
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And then it goes up, like, 3% grade or another three points or something, and it speeds up a
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little bit.
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And you're still walking, and you're walking for the first two or three levels.
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And then depending on how long your legs are, And then it's, like, pretty dang steep and
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you're running, and there's, like, I guess there's 7 different stages.
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And then you're basically, like, running, like, up, like, a stair master at one point, And mind
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you, you're also hooked up to all these heart monitors, and you also have a breathing tube,
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like, in your mouth, super uncomfortable.
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You're like drooling out of it, breathing as hard as you can.
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And you keep going faster.
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Every every 3 minutes, it increases It's incline and then increases its speed.
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And you're you have someone that's testing with you, making sure that you're Heart rate can
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level out.
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If your heart rate keeps going up, then you have to redo that same level again.
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So some people, their heart rate doesn't stabilize within, like, x amount of beats.
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I don't remember the exact number.
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But then if it does stabilize, you level up to the next one and you go until you literally,
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like, fall and you have someone there catching you, and you're you're supposed to.
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Some people are obviously gonna quit beforehand.
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And the machine that's, like, in your mouth, that's, like, measuring basically how much
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oxygen is being turned over by your lungs.
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The volume of auction is what VO 2 max is to see what it is, to see test your VO 2 max.
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And I've done the test, I think, like, twice.
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And I've gotten to level 5, and then I fail out, like, halfway through level 5.
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Never I don't think I ever made it to level 6.
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And then other people, they'll fail out sooner or they'll make it maybe a little bit further,
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but that doesn't necessarily mean if you make it further, you don't necessarily have a higher
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VO 2 max.
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It just means, like, you might have just been in in better shape.
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A lot of times, genetically, you can't change your max VO 2 max or or or however you wanna
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say that.
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But we did have our professor not for that specific class, but he was teaching in the
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exercise science program.
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He also wrestled at UNK where I wrestled Nebraska Carney.
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He was, like, a four time all American.
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I think he was, like, 1 25 small guy.
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He was the only one ever in our university to beat that whole test.
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So he, like, went past level 7, so they had to make a modified test for him.
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And it's because if he if he didn't, like, fail out, then he may not have reached his own VO 2
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max.
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So that's like some Olympic level stuff.
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I I used to put my teammates on it.
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They're peak during season.
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So when they're in their best shape, and they never even pass it.
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And, call call a dressler leading up to, like, national championships for doing lactic acid
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training every Tuesday.
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That's, like, your peak conditioning.
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And still, they were getting to, like, maybe level 5, level 6, but never beat it.
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So for that professor, Doctor Bryce Abby is his name.
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Him beating it is kinda crazy.
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And he actually won that Kevin Hart Show won like a $100 a couple years ago?
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No way.
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Like, some like ninja warrior type stuff or something like that.
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It was like, I don't know.
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It's Kevin Hart Show.
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I forget what it's called,
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That's tight.
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Yeah.
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That's the true VO 2.
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You gotta do that test.
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And, like Launches in enough.
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You don't, yeah, you don't wanna do, like, I wouldn't crave to do that test again.
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Like, it's you literally just yeah.
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It's it's You
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know what's wild about that, though, is, like, how So we look at just the, like, the standard
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population.
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I know, like, we're all fit guys, and it's something that, like, stepping into that level
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of uncomfortable.
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We were talking about that the other day.
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And so anything, like, across the board, if you look at it from the perspective of just, like,
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pure Right?
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You step into business.
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That's uncomfortable.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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But what I found is that people in general, one of their greatest fears is to become out of
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breath.
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Like, their greatest fears, like, as you progress and get older, like, where you are
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getting yourself out of breath.
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And you're like, what do I what do I do?
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Right?
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They're so soft.
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And it can come it can come from guys even that were like high level athletes maybe high school
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college where they just like, hey.
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My best days are behind me.
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Right?
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That's why I like I love this idea, the forever athlete.
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You're stepping into that level of uncomfortable.
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But, like, I'm seeing one of the greatest fears of everyone.
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You're in the sauna.
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Right?
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Everything that you're getting out of the sauna is when it gets a little uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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And you stay in there a little bit longer, that's when you're getting the best everything
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out of that sauna in the cold plunge.
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It's just a little bit longer is when you're actually pulling that out.
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But when people get out of breath, that's our, like, biggest biggest fear.
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Right?
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It's the same thing when, they get in a cold plunge.
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The cold plunge puts your body in the parasympathetic.
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Your body goes into fight or flight.
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You have to control your breathing.
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You're getting out of breath.
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That's why people buy a cold punch.
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And then 2 weeks later, they don't use it.
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You know, there, we see about Facebook marketplace.
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Yeah.
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Well, you're you're putting into the sympathetic state when you're in that fight or
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flight, and then it's the parasympathetic after that it
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comes That's right.
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That's right.
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But again, it's like controlling that breathing.
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And, I mean, yeah, like, all of us as athletes.
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You've gone through conditioning.
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And, dude, I remember, man, I was shout out to UCF La Crosse, ask anybody on the team.
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I was the most condition guy on that team.
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I was running laps around people, but even I hate it being out of breath.
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Like, you just it's it is uncomfortable, but that's what, like, levels you up.
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Right?
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If you don't push yourself, and it's the same way we talk about positive muscle failure,
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right, when you're training, if you're getting to 12, 15 reps and you have, like, 5 more in
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you, you didn't push it hard enough.
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Right?
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You gotta be at that last rep failing or almost failing.
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Obviously, safe if you're training alone, like, you don't wanna be dropping weights on yourself
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and stuff, but that threshold is where growth occurs.
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And that's physical.
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That's mental.
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That's biochemical.
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That's on every level when you're when you're pushing, like, boundaries is where growth
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happens.
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Right?
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It's huge.
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But, yeah, man.
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Corey, tell us a little bit about your background, bro.
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Kind of, we obviously just talked about this before the show, but share with, like, our
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listeners, man.
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Like, you were, football player wrestler, you know, had some injuries.
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Tell us a give a give a little summary, man.
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freaking shredded so that they can crush it at life for as long as possible.
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Yeah.
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Definitely, man.
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So, yeah, just, like, to start off, I've always been, like, addicted to working out, fitness,
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everything like that.
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I think eight years old had a pull up bar in my doorway or whatever.
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Had the I have, like, the record in my elementary school for most pull ups.
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Eventually, I got my parents to build me one outside.
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It's still there, so I can still get some good
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You're a younger guy.
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Did they do the, like, the presidential You know what I mean?
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They didn't test you.
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That was a junior high.
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Yeah.
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But and then so before junior high, it was just elementary, which was like, I don't think there
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was any, like, real standards.
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The the presidential test, but I got the presidential, like, every year.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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My mom is actually a teacher at my elementary school in every couple of years.
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Like, be in the PE room, take a picture of, like, the old, super old, like, sticker that
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has my name and, like, how many reps I did or whatever next to it.
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So That's funny.
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That's pretty cool.
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But Yeah.
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Then my parents, my dad sent me, like, a weight bench.
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I think I was, like, 12, 10.
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My brother was, like, 12.
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So, I mean, I started, like, actually consistently working out soon as I got a gym
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membership, and I was allowed to go by myself at age thirteen.
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So just love the lifting.
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And then I've always played sports.
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I think I started wrestling in 7th grade, played football and started in 6th grade
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throughout the course of high school.
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Had a couple injuries to really only wrestled.
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Like I said, those 2 years in high school, freshman year and junior year ended up going
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having a perfect season in wrestling, my junior year, 45 and o.
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Damn.
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State championship and then senior going into senior year for football, I was playing, I
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think, week 4 or 5.
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I tore my ACL.
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And that was, like, a continuation of the partial tear of my ACL, my 10th grade year when
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I didn't wrestle.
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And I had one offer at the time to play football at Nebraska Carney, and then everyone
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called me after that.
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They're like, yo, Corey, how's this, like, season going?
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How how many tackles you got?
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I'm like, only played four games this year at tournament ACL.
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I'm not gonna, like, lie to them.
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So I even had to, like, tell UNK after the offer me.
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I was like, yo, I told my ACL.
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And they're like, yeah.
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No worries.
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You can still come come come and play.
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But when I went there, I think when I was signing with them, the wrestling coaches
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contacted me and they were like, hey.
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We'll toss you a little bit of extra cash.
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Come and wrestle as well.
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So I did football and wrestling.
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Football ended up all this coaching staff got fired that 1st year.
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And then, so there's basically no program, and all the new coaches that come in, they wouldn't
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know who I am.
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I'm just like, I was a red shirt that year for football.
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And the wrestling coaches were just like, yeah, just, just stick with wrestling.
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Come wrestle full time and stuff, and we'll bump you up a little bit with the money.
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Which what did you like more football wrestling?
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Personally, I used to always tell myself I would never wrestle on college because I knew
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how hard wrestling was.
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Like, if you actually if you actually put your effort to it after it's all said and done, I
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like I like wrestling a lot.
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It's just a brutal sport.
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You don't have to, like, You don't have to rely rely on anyone else.
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It's not I mean, it is a team sport, but it's just you versus the guy
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across from you at
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the end of the day.
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So I enjoyed wrestling.
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I like it.
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I got my cauliflower ears.
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I mean, I've had this since, like, high school or
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They earned those qualified.
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Yeah.
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I earned them.
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I remember my buddies in high school.
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They used to they used to just hit themselves and trying to get it.
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Everyone wanted to get it.
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And I'm like, dick.
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You're dumb.
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You don't.
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You don't
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want it.
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You have it forever, and it hurts really bad.
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You have to drain it and stuff.
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So, Yeah.
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But in college ended up having 2 more ACL tears.
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Thing.
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So I tore the left one in high school, and then the right one, my sophomore year in college.
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And then again, my junior year in college with the right one, rehab them altogether.
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And these are injuries that are it's not the the lack of rehab wasn't that caused the
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injury.
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It was just, like, force of impact.
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There's nothing you can do to prevent, like, someone running into your knee or it, like,
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just, like, planting the wrong way.
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I think I was resting heavyweight when I tore it in college too.
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And I was like, I think I weighed.
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I was the 97.
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I was re I was a 97 pounder, but we didn't have a heavy weight at the time.
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So I bumped up and rest of heavy as how I tore During college, like I told you, I had the
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clothing company, savagery plus, shout out savagery plus.
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And then, that kinda led me into just like building a huge network, meeting a lot of
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people, ended up meeting a guy and doing a collab with pre workout called it savage
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slushie on one of the flavors.
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And just just like I was selling the clothing, was started selling the pre workout, got dove a
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little bit deeper into the pre workout, started bringing on a couple other supplements as well
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just from the company that was I was partnered with.
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It was a hardcore platinum, and then sweat ethic is their other company within their
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umbrella.
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And Eventually, just more and more more and more volume, more and more products like pre
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workout, protein, aminos, electrolytes, fat burners, muscle builders, everything you can
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think of, brought on a full lineup.
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And I was like, alright, I'm a just launch a store, an online storefront instead of just,
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like, Venmo in the typing in all their shipping stuff all the time and just corresponding.
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It made it automated pretty much.
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And then fast forward a little bit started doing, like, some ebook for, like, obviously,
00:15:53
you can't just take pre workout, can't take a fat burner and and make the progress that you
00:15:57
want.
00:15:57
People are asking me, yo, Corey, what do I eat?
00:16:00
Yo, Corey, how should I work out?
00:16:01
So I wrote a bunch of workout plans, did the nutrition guide, stuff like that.
00:16:06
And then, obviously, you can, like, self teach But at the end of the day, like, some people
00:16:09
need more one on one guidance.
00:16:11
So that's when I launched my one on one coaching.
00:16:13
So, like, consulting, scaled out up, went viral on social media for a couple years and had a
00:16:18
big following.
00:16:19
Scaled my business upward a little bit.
00:16:20
Had like a a a virtual assistant.
00:16:22
Had a couple coaches was doing a mastermind because I was everything was slipping through
00:16:27
my fingers.
00:16:27
Like, I was having too many people requesting to work with me, and I couldn't handle that
00:16:31
much.
00:16:31
I thinking about getting, like, an assistant coach and stuff, but then had to go through the
00:16:35
struggles of kinda downscaling a little bit.
00:16:37
The viral videos and everything, the leads slowed down a little bit.
00:16:40
So, I mean, that's process of any entrepreneur.
00:16:42
I'm sure you guys have experienced upscaling, downscaling.
00:16:45
So, but then in that time period, I launched my own pre workout transcendence with the Van Door
00:16:51
Nutrition label.
00:16:52
So we have, 3 flavors.
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We only have 2 of them here.
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That's what I'm drinking here.
00:16:55
Yeah.
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We got the strawberry and vanilla taffy.
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How do you like it?
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It's really good.
00:17:00
I wanna kinda get a little bit more into, like, the ingredients and stuff and you can kinda
00:17:03
share, like, the, you know, why you picked what you picked to put in there.
00:17:06
This is not what I took at Crunch Fitness that day.
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I took the pump XL, which is a no stimulant.
00:17:11
Right?
00:17:11
Correct.
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This is caffeine.
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Yep.
00:17:13
Yep.
00:17:13
Correct.
00:17:13
Which I like.
00:17:15
Yeah.
00:17:15
So the the tran the transcendence and and what's cool about that is that it's like
00:17:20
because the other companies I would sell on my online store, they're not my actual company.
00:17:25
I'm pretty much, like, operating how, like, a a local nutrition store would.
00:17:28
They buy bulk from a company, and they wholesale they buy it in wholesale, and then
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they sell it direct to consumer.
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Because if I just do that, an online version, And then now it's, like, I'm actually creating
00:17:36
my own line.
00:17:37
So right now, we just have a pre workout.
00:17:39
Eventually, I think the next one I'll do will be a non stem pre.
00:17:41
So a pump.
00:17:42
And then after that, maybe like an electrolyte protein is, like, the least cost, like, the
00:17:47
most expensive, and you have to sell it for the cheapest.
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So they'll probably a little bit down the road.
00:17:51
To make margins.
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Yeah.
00:17:52
Yeah.
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As far as, like, the margins and everything.
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But, yeah, the transcendence is it's a unique formula The guys that own hardcore platinum and
00:17:59
sweat ethic helped me formulate it, and they've been doing it for years.
00:18:02
They've been in the industry for, I think, Brent, he's been in the industry for like, 18
00:18:05
years now, just, like, formulating supplements and stuff.
00:18:09
So really smart guy.
00:18:10
He's kinda like my mentor on that side of things.
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But we didn't put a ton of caffeine in there, and we do have some strong stimulants in there,
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but it's not all just caffeine.
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And then we have a lot of pump agents in there, and then a lot of topics.
00:18:23
So you're really gonna get that, like, euphoric feeling.
00:18:25
You're gonna feel really good.
00:18:26
You're gonna feel really dialed in.
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You're not gonna feel like super stemmed out, and it's not gonna have that high high, like,
00:18:33
jitteriness and then, like, a big crash afterwards.
00:18:35
Like, a lot of pre workouts So that's why it's kind of cool.
00:18:38
I know a lot of people will look at the back of a supplement label and immediately look how
00:18:42
many milligrams of caffeine is in it.
00:18:43
That's all I care about.
00:18:44
Yeah.
00:18:44
If it's 100.
00:18:45
I don't want it.
00:18:46
If you look at R, it says 225, and then it has another 100 of the HCL, which is gonna yield
00:18:51
75%.
00:18:51
So totally get 300 milligrams caffeine.
00:18:54
But there's also cinephrine in there and then, like, iraj orensis.
00:18:57
And then you also got, all the pump ingredients and then the nootropics in there as well.
00:19:01
So Cognity Q and, the Alpha GPC.
00:19:04
And then nitrogen is in our original formula, which is a crazy pump agent, but was such a
00:19:09
good pump agent.
00:19:10
We actually had to switch the formula around because it wasn't allowed to be paired with the
00:19:14
irora transis because that's like a strong stimulant So whenever your formula kinda has to
00:19:18
get changed, that's how you know you did it.
00:19:20
Right?
00:19:20
Yeah.
00:19:20
Just that's the thing in the industry.
00:19:22
So Like,
00:19:22
we did this too damn good.
00:19:23
Yeah.
00:19:23
We did it too good.
00:19:24
So we had to switch it around.
00:19:25
So but the new formula is still it I think the beta hits just as, like, hits maybe even harder
00:19:31
and the new tropics might hit even harder.
00:19:34
Even though we didn't swap around those ingredients, we just got rid of the nitrogen
00:19:37
and replaced it with 18 and hydras, which is, like, beet root powder still good for, like
00:19:42
It's a blood flow.
00:19:42
Yeah.
00:19:43
Yeah.
00:19:43
So but
00:19:44
overall yeah.
00:19:46
And, and overall, it's really cool to have this as my own brand now because now I can get it
00:19:50
into other stores.
00:19:51
So I think right now, active active stores, I think we have, like, 12 or 13 active accounts
00:19:56
that we sell wholesale too.
00:19:58
So it's just like another now I'm doing business to business instead of, direct to
00:20:02
consumer, which is pretty cool.
00:20:04
I mean, as an entrepreneur, I'm just trying to learn learn every pathway.
00:20:07
You know what I mean?
00:20:08
So
00:20:09
That's a sick story, man.
00:20:10
Like, you were very similar to ours.
00:20:11
I mean, athletes growing up for your whole life.
00:20:14
And you're like, for me, it was like, how can I take what I love to do, help other people, but
00:20:19
also, like, make it, like, profitable for myself and make a career out of it, starting as
00:20:23
a trainer that then kinda led me to, like, see PT and Cairo went Cairo?
00:20:28
So it's all about, like, finding the the blend.
00:20:31
I think we talked about this before on a podcast of where, like, what do I love to do?
00:20:36
What am I good at?
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And how can I serve the most people?
00:20:38
And then where those three things meet is kind of your purpose, right, or can be your purpose?
00:20:43
Or you derive a ton of what god intended for you.
00:20:46
Right?
00:20:46
Oh, man, that's awesome.
00:20:47
So right now, you mostly I mean, we you got into, like, VO 2 max system.
00:20:52
How do you train now?
00:20:53
Do you mostly lift?
00:20:54
Do you run cardio?
00:20:55
What what's your approach?
00:20:57
Know he's Jack.
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That's why I'm asking
00:20:59
him, like, he changed.
00:20:59
I don't think he left.
00:21:00
I don't think he left.
00:21:01
Never lifted away, my life.
00:21:03
Never touched the leaks.
00:21:04
He might like this.
00:21:06
No, man.
00:21:07
But it's it's, switched up a decent amount.
00:21:09
So I really got into, I'd say about 2020 era and then 2021 is when I really, like, started
00:21:17
in in started actually training till true failure on, like, pretty much all exercises.
00:21:21
It definitely takes a while.
00:21:22
If you're training, like, a hypertrophy is strength training, know, like, pushing weight
00:21:25
all the time.
00:21:26
You think you're, like, doing everything.
00:21:27
And then, like, but you're not actually training to failure.
00:21:29
You can start getting those failure sets in there, but it takes a while make every workout
00:21:33
all your working sets till failure, especially when it's something like back squats or, like,
00:21:38
like, any sort of leg workout, like, go until failure on that.
00:21:41
That's, like, so systemically, like, fatiguing.
00:21:44
That goes back to that, like, uncomfortable thing.
00:21:46
Yes.
00:21:46
Yeah.
00:21:46
Yeah.
00:21:47
Dude, like, it sucks.
00:21:48
Like, most of failure
00:21:49
with, like, legs and squats
00:21:50
squats.
00:21:51
I'm a I'm gonna touch on squats specifically.
00:21:52
Any, like, any back squat, even if it's like a a power v squad or something where it's plate
00:21:57
loaded, whatever, I've trained with multiple people where they're, like, dying.
00:22:00
They're struggling.
00:22:00
And, like, they're about to racket.
00:22:01
And I'm like, no.
00:22:02
Not 2 more.
00:22:03
And then they do 2 more.
00:22:04
I'm like, no.
00:22:04
Not more.
00:22:05
And then they do, like, 6 more after they were about to rack.
00:22:07
And I'm like, you've you're always training like this.
00:22:10
That's why, like, you're not seeing progress.
00:22:11
Like, you're you're stopping when you think it's, like, You're stopping when it's
00:22:14
uncomfortable.
00:22:14
Yes.
00:22:15
But you can go way further into that zone of of, like, being uncomfortable.
00:22:20
So you need to, like, push that.
00:22:21
So that's where kinda took a couple months to, like, really fully lock in on training to
00:22:26
failure with everything.
00:22:26
It's also it's gonna be really hard on, like, your body.
00:22:29
But that was about 2021, 2020, 2021 era that I started training like that.
00:22:34
Real hypertrophy, short workouts, like high intensity training, not high intensity interval
00:22:39
I'm still resting an adequate amount of time to where one set my previous set doesn't hinder
00:22:44
the following set, but within each and every set, I make sure that it extremely intense.
00:22:48
And that's the way I strength train.
00:22:50
I was always, like, kinda anti cardio just because I was just trying to, like, stay
00:22:53
shredded.
00:22:53
And my heart rate would get so high.
00:22:54
I was doing sets of, on back spots sets of, like, 20 till failure.
00:22:58
And I would literally, like, have the bar down, and I'd have to unrack it.
00:23:01
Like, I'd go to absolute failure I had no spot, it's kinda Yeah.
00:23:04
Yeah.
00:23:05
And that would get your heart rate up, like, a ton.
00:23:07
And I do, like, I do a lot of hand cleans and stuff, but recently, I've started running.
00:23:12
So I trained and I ran a marathon in November, but my main goal going into that training was
00:23:17
to, like, we're talking about earlier, Matt.
00:23:19
Is to not lose muscle mass.
00:23:21
I did an okay job at it.
00:23:22
My legs lost a lot of muscle mass, but it wasn't because of the the cardio and because of
00:23:27
the training and all that and the nutrition.
00:23:29
It was mainly because I was, like, overtraining and I was having, like, injuries.
00:23:32
So, like, my adductor puff, my hamstring was, like, popping.
00:23:36
My hip was, like, bothering me.
00:23:37
So I couldn't really train legs extremely hard when it while I was running and doing the
00:23:41
marathon prep.
00:23:43
And now I've I just did my first run-in the past month on Tuesday.
00:23:47
I only ran, like, three miles, but I still had a gas tank.
00:23:50
Like, I did, like, a run club thing.
00:23:51
Is, like, me and me and this other kid ran, like, I think it was, like, a 6 minute in,
00:23:55
like, 15 second pace or whatever it is, like, simple.
00:23:57
We were talking the whole time.
00:23:59
So I definitely haven't lost my cardio, but I I'm gonna dive back into probably running a
00:24:03
little bit more.
00:24:04
I wanna do the New York City marathon is what wanna do.
00:24:07
So I gotta do I gotta do a charity event.
00:24:08
It's a nice goal.
00:24:08
Yeah.
00:24:08
I gotta
00:24:09
do a charity event too.
00:24:10
Cool.
00:24:10
Otherwise, you it's like a drawing, or you have to run a 253 marathon.
00:24:14
I can't do that yet.
00:24:15
Yeah.
00:24:16
That's a that's something that I kinda wanna do.
00:24:17
I think you just gotta do a charity event, raise money, donate it.
00:24:20
It's like $3 or something.
00:24:22
And then you have a guaranteed entry.
00:24:24
Because
00:24:24
you were saying that you had 3 ACL injuries.
00:24:27
Is that right?
00:24:28
Yeah.
00:24:28
Yeah.
00:24:29
So one of the big things, obviously, you're coming up.
00:24:32
You're you're you said your birthday is next month.
00:24:34
28.
00:24:35
Yeah.
00:24:35
But that that mind body awareness, because that running obviously impacts that because I've,
00:24:40
like, noticed that too.
00:24:41
You know, I'll run.
00:24:42
I'll go meet them the longest I ran last year was about fourteen miles.
00:24:46
And so but, like, mind body awareness, I had an MCL injury.
00:24:49
I kept it really, like, it might I think my injury is not nearly what you had, and I never
00:24:54
had an ACL injury at an Mcl teller, but I'm, like, a tentative to kind of the injury
00:24:59
injuries I've, like, where I'm at now.
00:25:02
So how have you programmed that around?
00:25:04
Hey.
00:25:04
I I have an ACL injury.
00:25:05
How am I building up?
00:25:07
Obviously, my quads and my hams to cater to 3 injuries, you know, pretty catastrophic
00:25:14
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Definitely.
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So and I and I tell a lot of people this all the time because I have a lot of, like, clients
00:25:58
who are just, like, people that communicate with me, like, online or messaging, whatever.
00:26:02
Like, on what to do after an injury or I work with them through an injury.
00:26:05
Obviously, I'm not, like, a physical therapist or I'm not a doctor, but I've been I've lived
00:26:10
in physical therapy for all my injuries and stuff.
00:26:12
And one thing that I did, post surgeries and stuff like that to, like, stay healthy is,
00:26:18
like, you do all the you do all the exercises in physical therapy.
00:26:20
To strengthen all those, like, little muscles, stabilizing muscles, and obviously, like, the
00:26:24
the whole of the muscle as well during your PT or 6 months or 9 months recovery, but you need
00:26:30
to continue to do that, like, almost basically forever
00:26:32
because
00:26:33
as soon as you stop doing it, you're gonna you're gonna atrophy again.
00:26:35
You're gonna lose it all, like, And especially for the people that don't do their physical
00:26:39
therapy, which you'd be surprised how many people skip their physical therapy.
00:26:42
And then they end up, like, getting a re injury So that's pretty much what I've done.
00:26:46
I've just made sure that I'm still doing the appropriate strengthening.
00:26:50
I really was kind of lacking on the mobility and the flexibility and stuff like that.
00:26:55
That's why I've really I that's why I'm glad I started running because that showed me, like,
00:27:00
yeah, I'm not invincible.
00:27:01
I need to start doing this mobility and this flexibility and stuff.
00:27:03
And then I that's where I really dove into that even more.
00:27:07
But other than that, ACLs are a little different, so you don't it's not really an
00:27:11
injury where you get hurt lifting if you're lifting appropriately.
00:27:14
So obviously, like, good form.
00:27:16
But ACL, it's always, like, if you're, like, cutting back and forth or, like and I never
00:27:20
tore mine, like, with, like, cutting back and forth.
00:27:22
There was always a contact injury, which is,
00:27:24
like, Unavoidable.
00:27:25
If someone slamming if someone slamming into your knee or, like, you're getting, like,
00:27:30
slammed on a wrestling mat and your leg is sticking out, doesn't matter.
00:27:33
I'm strong your leg is.
00:27:34
Like, you see the strongest running backs in the NFL.
00:27:36
They get hit in the knee.
00:27:37
Like, sometimes it's just gonna snap.
00:27:39
So we did a whole episode on that where we were like, if you're you know, you know, going into
00:27:44
sport and going into high impact stuff like football and wrestling that there's a chance
00:27:48
for injury, bro.
00:27:49
Like, you could be the most trained in the world guys are running into you full speed.
00:27:53
That way the same amount is it.
00:27:55
It's just like
00:27:56
it happened to be a 100%.
00:27:58
Yeah.
00:27:58
That line backer that was just coming in.
00:28:00
He was like, literally, he was just ready to he popped, he popped in Achilles.
00:28:04
She, like, went back, popped in Achilles in.
00:28:06
It's a dynamic game, bro.
00:28:07
Like, there's so many factors.
00:28:09
You step and roll your ankle.
00:28:10
Somebody steps on your foot.
00:28:11
Like, it's just a thing.
00:28:12
Right?
00:28:13
We play basketball.
00:28:14
And so it's like, I take that into account when I play ball.
00:28:16
I mean, I, like, wear ankle reps, but still.
00:28:18
It's like Yeah.
00:28:18
You never know you're gonna step on someone's foot wrong and while you're running full speed
00:28:21
and boom, there's your ankle.
00:28:23
Right?
00:28:23
100%.
00:28:24
And one thing I used to remind people, and even in back in high school too, the initial purpose
00:28:28
for us, like, because they've been playing, like, high school college football for years.
00:28:32
They weren't always strength training.
00:28:33
They started strength training for one reason and one reason, I think it wasn't to be
00:28:36
absolutely insanely dominant animals on the field.
00:28:39
It was to prevent injury.
00:28:41
That was the main reason for strength.
00:28:43
100%.
00:28:43
Longevity.
00:28:44
Literally is to prevent injury.
00:28:45
So
00:28:46
And that's what we talk about.
00:28:47
That's part of why we, like, take care of ourselves.
00:28:50
Eat healthy foods that are anti inflammatory is that when an injury does happen, I'm gonna
00:28:55
recover faster.
00:28:56
Whereas if I'm this, as Jay Campbell would say, this flaming human dumpster fire of freaking
00:29:00
metabolic disorder If I sprayed my ankle, bro, I'm looking at a long recovery.
00:29:05
My body does not have the the building blocks to put, you know, to heal that tissue.
00:29:09
And then, obviously, we hack it here in the office with the soft wave and the peptides and
00:29:12
all that stuff, which is the next level.
00:29:14
But Those are pretty important.
00:29:16
I I keep going back to this because, like, a book I'm obviously reading right now.
00:29:19
Yeah.
00:29:19
Outlive.
00:29:20
Peter it to you.
00:29:21
But he calls it the centurion to Kathlon.
00:29:23
Right?
00:29:24
So I'm a little bit older.
00:29:25
Than you.
00:29:26
So the way I look and approach things is just, metabolic.
00:29:30
How how can it be be so metabolically flexible, right?
00:29:34
And so we bring up basketball, dude.
00:29:36
I love playing basketball.
00:29:37
Right now in March too.
00:29:38
I forget.
00:29:38
Yeah.
00:29:40
And so basketball basketball's always been my sport.
00:29:43
And now I'd like, I genuinely love.
00:29:45
I'm a basketball golf all day.
00:29:47
I could do it.
00:29:48
But Basketball's that impact sport.
00:29:50
So then when I'm going in and I'm playing, like, on a Saturday, and I'll play with some
00:29:54
guys.
00:29:55
And I'm looking at these guys.
00:29:56
I'm like, dude, you are like, you're forty years old and you're not warming up.
00:30:01
You're not stretching.
00:30:02
You're not doing anything and you're metabolically inflexible.
00:30:04
Right?
00:30:04
You're like, you're not in good, like, like, some guys just aren't in great shape.
00:30:10
Yeah.
00:30:11
But, that's the one thing that I've enjoyed about running and really like, putting running
00:30:17
into, like, my exercise diet is that from a cardiovascular standpoint, I warm up before I
00:30:25
go on to the court, but I will run circles around twenty year old kids.
00:30:30
Like, that aren't approaching it that way.
00:30:33
You're like a
00:30:33
good cell
00:30:34
team.
00:30:35
So but, like, that that cardiovascular component is, like, super important to me
00:30:40
because I wanna make sure that, hey.
00:30:42
That can potentially avoid injury.
00:30:44
I'm in the way I train, I train, like, still like an athlete.
00:30:47
Where I'm cutting in various patterns, but I'm warming up.
00:30:50
I'm doing high knees.
00:30:51
I'm making sure my hammies are, like, loose before I get out of the court.
00:30:56
And, dude, I've seen, like, a major difference over the past 5 years on how I approach
00:31:01
everything.
00:31:02
Whether it be golf in terms of my, like, overall flexibility, because that that takes a
00:31:06
lot of kinetic movement and start in terms of, like, driving in the inertia.
00:31:09
That's what I don't understand about, like, some older guys in golf, like, They'll golf.
00:31:14
Are you a golfer?
00:31:15
No.
00:31:15
I'm not a golfer.
00:31:16
No.
00:31:17
Maybe you might pick it up.
00:31:18
Anyways, but it's one of these things where, like, these guys will start enjoying golf.
00:31:22
Right?
00:31:23
But, like, they won't do anything else to try to improve their game, which is, like, outside
00:31:28
the game of golf.
00:31:29
They're like, I'm going to play.
00:31:30
It's like, dude, aren't you trying to drop your score?
00:31:32
Like, Aren't you trying to get a little bit better?
00:31:35
Part of that is, like, how can I have more upper body and lower body strength to create a
00:31:40
inertia to hit the ball a little bit further?
00:31:42
Instead, it's just like this digression of, like, not taking the game seriously.
00:31:47
And I'm like, dude, like, I I take that seriously outside of the goal.
00:31:50
I think it's all about, like, what, like, your goals are.
00:31:53
And, I mean, dude, we experience this and what we do.
00:31:55
Probably experienced this being a coach who's trying to take people to the next level of
00:31:59
health and fitness is like, some people genuinely don't give a shit.
00:32:03
Like, you asked me, like, are you cool being average?
00:32:04
And they're like, yeah, they kinda am right now.
00:32:06
And you're like, damn, bro.
00:32:07
Like, you clearly are not in our community, but, like, that that changes when you develop
00:32:12
disease over time and you start to realize, man, I'm so out of shape, then they come back
00:32:15
and say, hey.
00:32:16
How do I get fit again?
00:32:17
But I just was thinking about this as you were saying that is, like, I just shifted because I
00:32:21
we're all about, like, changing it up too.
00:32:23
So there's a concept like novelty stimulus will continue to like, propel you forward or cause
00:32:28
growth.
00:32:28
Right?
00:32:29
If you if you run a mile every single day, your body will become more efficient at preserving
00:32:34
calories in that mile.
00:32:35
That's just what happens.
00:32:37
So then you gotta change it up.
00:32:38
Maybe you start doing more like sprints or doing, like, intervals or you go from lifting
00:32:43
heavy 1 month into lifting more, like, high purchase style with heavier or lighter loads
00:32:48
heavier reps, higher reps, or, like, what I just shifted into.
00:32:51
I went from more like a bodybuilding approach into, I'm training again for, like, sport.
00:32:55
And I was like, dude, I'm gonna get back into playing the cross.
00:32:57
Like, I'm feeling freaking good.
00:32:58
I was like, I wanna I I And this is your fault because you talk about the Forever athlete all
00:33:03
the time, and I'm like, dude, I am an athlete.
00:33:05
Like, I need to I need to get back into playing where I miss it so much.
00:33:08
And I I guess I kinda, like, hung it up thinking like, oh, it's, you know, I shouldn't
00:33:12
do that or it's dangerous.
00:33:13
I might get hurt, but it's like, dude, you can get hurt doing so many things.
00:33:16
Like, you could be don't even know who's getting that's a whole another conversation,
00:33:19
but you can't live your life in fear.
00:33:20
That's all that comes to your comfort.
00:33:22
Right?
00:33:22
Yeah.
00:33:22
Whereas, like, if I'm properly trained and I'm my body's able to perform at a high level, I
00:33:27
can for sure.
00:33:29
And that's the forever athlete right there.
00:33:30
Absolutely.
00:33:31
Yeah.
00:33:31
No doubt.
00:33:32
One thing that I I wanted to talk about a little bit more because you're in the business
00:33:37
side of things too.
00:33:38
As far as, like, growing and then, obviously scaling your company.
00:33:42
How old is your company now?
00:33:43
I think we officially launched the website for Van Horn Nutrition, April of 2021.
00:33:48
So almost
00:33:49
Oh, it's pretty recent.
00:33:50
3 years.
00:33:50
Yeah.
00:33:50
K.
00:33:51
But I was, like, selling, I think the first, like, first time I tried the or first time I,
00:33:56
like, bought I think I started, I just bought 6 tubs of pre workout and, like, maybe half price
00:34:00
or wholesale, whatever it was, and then, like, tried to sell them to, like, my network, and
00:34:04
then I did.
00:34:05
And then I bought, like, 12 and then 20.
00:34:06
I think that was the end of 2019.
00:34:09
Going into 20 that I've been doing supplements type deal.
00:34:12
So
00:34:13
Cool.
00:34:13
So one thing, and
00:34:15
this always goes back because, like, whether you're an
00:34:15
entrepreneur or you work, it's all about then becomes time.
00:34:21
Like, how do you fit time then?
00:34:22
Right.
00:34:22
I gotta do this.
00:34:23
I gotta do that.
00:34:24
But then there's, like, time for you.
00:34:26
And one of the things that's, like, a non negotiable is, like, There's always time to,
00:34:29
like, make sure that I'm maintaining that a, like, a healthy lifestyle working out and being
00:34:34
confident.
00:34:35
How do you find the time?
00:34:35
How do you find the time between being an entrepreneur And then, like, obviously, trying
00:34:40
to grow and scale a business, coach other people to do better things, and then time for
00:34:44
yourself.
00:34:45
Yeah.
00:34:45
No.
00:34:45
I'll I appreciate that question.
00:34:47
And for me, it's, it's it's honestly, like, the easiest thing in the world because I am the
00:34:52
billboard for my company.
00:34:53
It's, like, if I wanna help people build muscle shred fat, then I just show that I can build
00:34:58
muscle shred fat.
00:34:59
So as long as I'm saying lean, as long as I'm sharpening my brain and learning more about
00:35:04
nutrition, learning more about training and just, like, always improving and, like, how I
00:35:08
can improve my knowledge.
00:35:10
That's I'm gonna apply it to myself first, and then I'm gonna, like, obviously read the
00:35:13
literature, read the research, and then I I'd apply it to my clients and see what works, see
00:35:19
what doesn't.
00:35:19
Not like I'm using them
00:35:20
as guinea pigs because like, any pig on a lot
00:35:22
of things.
00:35:22
And I'm not trying, like, crazy stuff, but if you're, like, trying to get a lot of people in
00:35:26
your door at, like, you have, like, some some sort of, restaurant or something that's, like,
00:35:30
really hard to maintain the outside of it.
00:35:32
And, like, you want it to look good on the outside so people come inside.
00:35:35
If it looks like crap, no one's gonna side.
00:35:37
Same with me.
00:35:38
I'm the billboard on the face of the company.
00:35:39
I need to make sure that it looks good that it's it's inviting its welcoming on my own
00:35:43
marketing tool if that kinda makes sense.
00:35:45
And I enjoy it.
00:35:46
There's nothing that that's literally part of the best part of my day is, like, going to the
00:35:49
gym.
00:35:50
And I enjoy meal prepping.
00:35:51
I enjoy saying dialed in, and yeah, dude.
00:35:54
It's it's honestly, it's the simplest thing.
00:35:56
If I was doing something else, like, if I wasn't if my business was, like, something
00:36:00
else, maybe, and, like, I didn't have, like, a burning desire to be athletic and and, like,
00:36:06
shred fat build muscle and stuff like that.
00:36:08
I mean, you guys enjoy working out.
00:36:09
Right?
00:36:10
Love it.
00:36:10
Yeah.
00:36:10
Yeah.
00:36:10
So for us, it's, like, easy to add someone else at who's, like, not in the fitness space, they
00:36:15
would probably have some sort of other answer.
00:36:17
I just I just love it.
00:36:18
Yeah.
00:36:19
I think we have a guy in our optimizers program right now that's, he's absolutely crushing it
00:36:24
and shout out to Ricky's and then.
00:36:26
He's not in that space.
00:36:28
Right?
00:36:28
He's in the insurance world.
00:36:29
He he packed on some pounds.
00:36:31
And it could be that, like, everyone's rocks bottom is different.
00:36:34
Right?
00:36:35
But he's like, dude, I'm not accepting this standard anymore.
00:36:38
Yeah.
00:36:38
He's like, I'm gonna set a new standard for myself.
00:36:40
So his one thing that he's noticed though is that his employees, when he goes in and they
00:36:47
see him, like, setting that standard, they're like, this guy's really taken this
00:36:51
intentionally.
00:36:52
Like, he's taking this seriously.
00:36:54
That, like, he's leaving sometimes that you don't work for 30 minutes to an hour to come
00:36:58
back, that he has a clear mindset.
00:37:00
He's able to be more present with them.
00:37:02
And he's like, dude, if I wasn't doing this, man, like, I missed out on all these years of,
00:37:06
like, not doing this.
00:37:08
But he's like, I now it's, like, I have to because of how they perceive me now.
00:37:14
And so it's like this confidence factor as you bring on employees in the company.
00:37:17
That's one thing that I we do in within our company is that I tell him every day.
00:37:23
I was like, your health is way more important than any work that we're doing.
00:37:28
Like, if you're not a 100% Like, I I, like, I would prefer to have you, like, leave for an
00:37:34
hour, even take a nap.
00:37:35
Like, I tell him, take nap breaks.
00:37:37
Like, I love the 20 minute like, burst where you can come back and you can just, like, you
00:37:42
feel like you're at an optimal state to come because you're gonna be way more efficient.
00:37:46
So take a nap.
00:37:48
Drink lots of water.
00:37:49
If you need to go for a walk, even at workout, do it.
00:37:52
I think it's like, I I would rather have you at a higher capacity than, like, just trying to
00:37:58
push through something.
00:38:00
And that's why I do that.
00:38:01
That's why I'm just such a believer.
00:38:03
It did up break.
00:38:04
I'll break away for 45 minutes to an hour.
00:38:06
We did that yesterday.
00:38:07
I usually don't do midday.
00:38:08
I like I was same as you.
00:38:10
Morning.
00:38:11
Which we can dive into that here in a minute.
00:38:13
Of, like, that chronotype, but very much of a morning guy.
00:38:16
Right?
00:38:16
I wanna knock this thing out.
00:38:18
I wanna get my, like, max blood flow really early in the morning.
00:38:21
It's not for everyone.
00:38:23
And I think that goes back to that chronotype piece of, like, understanding yourself.
00:38:27
Am I night?
00:38:28
Am I morning?
00:38:29
I am a a believer in that you probably don't wanna accelerate your heart rate right before
00:38:33
you're trying to go to bed.
00:38:34
Try to maintain that, like, 2 to 3 hours.
00:38:37
Where you're not accelerating, but that corona type's a big piece.
00:38:40
So you're probably that that corona type is fits that morning where some people just like
00:38:44
the early morning blood flow.
00:38:46
Yeah.
00:38:46
Recently, I I used to lift at nighttime or, like, midday or even, like, after I'd get 2
00:38:51
meals in before I'd lift, but recently, I noticing my sleep is better.
00:38:55
And I just, like, I like to have the workout completed.
00:38:57
I don't wanna, like, get into some deep work or, like, working with clients all day or,
00:39:01
like, creating some sort of content and then, like, look at the clock, and I'm heading to
00:39:05
post office.
00:39:05
And then it's, like, already 5, 6 PM, and I still haven't lifted yet.
00:39:08
I just don't, like, I'm the makes me I'm almost, like, you know, like, the commercial,
00:39:11
like, you're not you when you're hungry for Snickers.
00:39:14
That's like
00:39:14
and I've I've had that feeling since, like, I was, like, 18, probably younger than 18.
00:39:18
Like, you're not you if you haven't worked out yet that
00:39:21
day.
00:39:21
Same.
00:39:21
I I feel that.
00:39:22
Yeah.
00:39:22
Yeah.
00:39:22
Yeah.
00:39:23
Yeah.
00:39:23
So, yeah, I've been mourning.
00:39:24
I've been and then a lot of times, like, I'll I'll usually do a breakfast, Usually, it's been
00:39:29
smaller lately, just like oats, protein, like, kale spinach and a shake.
00:39:33
And I used to do that just with eggs, but now I've been doing just a shake and then just
00:39:37
wait, like, 30, 40 minutes and then I can go get a lift.
00:39:39
But sometimes I'll carb load at nighttime and, like, have a bunch of excess carbs before I go
00:39:45
to bed.
00:39:45
And then I wake up and then, like, I'm fully loaded, have all the glycogen stores are full,
00:39:50
have all the fuel that I need, and then I'd lift it, like, as soon as I wake up.
00:39:53
That's what I did this morning.
00:39:54
I lifted I started my lecture, like, maybe 55.
00:39:57
Do you feel hungrier when you do that?
00:39:58
Do you feel hungrier when you've had a lot of carbs at night?
00:40:00
I'd I'd notice that for myself.
00:40:02
What the next day?
00:40:02
In the morning.
00:40:03
No.
00:40:04
No.
00:40:04
Not really.
00:40:06
I don't know.
00:40:06
I I just can tell.
00:40:08
I and I can tell in my stomach.
00:40:09
It's not even I don't even know.
00:40:10
It's it's like a hunger or an tight, but it's like I literally just, like, feel, like, less
00:40:15
my body and my muscles feel less full.
00:40:17
And, like, my my stomach actually feels empty.
00:40:19
And then I'm like, okay.
00:40:20
I need to eat food before I train.
00:40:22
Like, I can almost, like, tell, especially once I don't I don't really know.
00:40:25
Once that you've been doing it, you pay attention to it.
00:40:27
I track every little thing that I put in my body.
00:40:29
Do you guys track your calories?
00:40:31
Macros?
00:40:32
Check my protein.
00:40:32
I track protein.
00:40:33
Protein.
00:40:33
Yeah.
00:40:34
So I track literally everything in carbs.
00:40:36
Like, protein, I'm like hitting almost all the time.
00:40:38
I don't
00:40:38
really worry about that.
00:40:39
I like to see how many carbs I've had, and then I like to see not necessarily the fat, but,
00:40:43
like, if I'm, like, carved up, like, I'm like, okay.
00:40:45
I'm about to hit, like, a 2 hour bike ride where I can run, like, eleven miles today
00:40:50
because I got all these extra carbs with me because it's, like, it's really important if
00:40:53
you're doing, like, long training, especially if you have, like, not many reserves I'm pretty
00:40:57
lean right now.
00:40:57
So and you guys are lean too.
00:40:59
So it's the same same concept.
00:41:00
Someone who's, like, more overweight, they don't have to necessarily, like, rely on for
00:41:04
their fuel because they can tap into that fat source.
00:41:06
But a lot of times, if you're tapping in your fat source and you're already pretty lean,
00:41:09
you're also gonna be tapping in and going through a gluke on you Genesis, which is where
00:41:13
the protein that you ate converts breaks down into glycogen into glucose.
00:41:17
It's just a less efficient form of of energy.
00:41:19
The body is gonna use.
00:41:20
You're not just burning purely body fat or whatever.
00:41:23
And then when you're not having that protein be used to rebuild your muscles because it's going
00:41:27
through gluconeogenesis, to be carbs, then you're no longer getting enough protein to
00:41:32
rebuild and keep your muscle mass.
00:41:33
And then that's why people start to lose.
00:41:35
Alright, guys.
00:41:36
If you enjoyed that part 1, we have a part 2 coming for you.
00:41:39
Stay tuned.