Corey Van Dorn: Transform Athletic Discipline into Business Success (Part 2)
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Corey Van Dorn: Transform Athletic Discipline into Business Success (Part 2)

The episode starts with a discussion on the early onset of diseases. It then explores how metabolization, circadian rhythm, and caffeine impact sleep. The conversation shifts to genetic testing, metabolism, and Van Door Nutrition's new product. The role of nutrition in workout effectiveness and the importance of vitamin supplementation are highlighted, with a focus on Vitamin D's influence on sleep quality. Lifestyle choices for delaying genetic predispositions are examined, along with balancing career and personal health in your 30s. The concept of the "forever athlete" mindset is introduced, followed by a health narrative aimed at the younger demographic. (0:00) Introduction and early onset of diseases (0:44) Metabolization, circadian rhythm, and caffeine's impact on sleep (2:23) Genetic testing, metabolism, and Van Door Nutrition's new product (8:36) Nutrition's role in workout effectiveness and vitamin supplementation (12:20) Vitamin D's influence on sleep quality (15:21) Lifestyle choices to delay genetic predispositions (19:40) Balancing career and personal health in your 30s (21:23) Embracing the "forever athlete" mindset (23:22) Health narrative for the younger demographic (24:29) Fasting, nutrition experiments, and prioritizing health (27:18) Teaching children about health and fitness (28:52) The importance of health education (29:55) The "full fueled" question and guest insights

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Welcome to the full fueled podcast.

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This is part 2 of a previously recorded episode.

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If you wanna check out part 1, you can find it in the description below.

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Thanks.

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Well, the reality is also that that Parkinson's didn't that that didn't begin when they were

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seventy years old.

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That happened when they were thirty.

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Those those things started building up.

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Right?

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And that's why I set it on a podcast that we had, Mike and Diana on is, like, you're setting

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the stage now for that eighty five year old self that you you talk about when you're thirty

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years Right?

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You're putting into place how you're gonna age.

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Right?

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And if it's fast food, shit, sugar, garbage, all that, like, you are predisposing yourself

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to metabolic disease down the line.

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Yeah.

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Hands down.

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You're not gonna it starts now for sure.

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On most of those dementia and, like, brain neuro cock if things happen right now.

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So you're talking about metabolization and being a fast metabolizer.

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And there was one thing that came out of, like, some of the research that I've been doing

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recently, and because circadian rhythm is just such an important factor in terms of

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understanding of how you're gonna be operating day to day.

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And so we're just talking about this, but how fast and slow different people can metabolize

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And so when you're a salomon's analyzer, you know, a lot of times we just naturally later in

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the day wanna go after, like, caffeine loading or put putting caffeine in our body.

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I'm actually a little bit slower.

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And typically, you would think, oh, somebody that's overweight is a slow metabolizer.

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That's actually not true.

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It's different.

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We come in.

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Yeah.

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So with me, if I drink caffeine, although I might not realize it, right, because I I

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usually falsely pretty fast.

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It still will impact my circadian rhythm because of the fact that I'm not getting into

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REM sleep.

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And so then my body insulates differently later in later the next day.

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My hormone levels are a little bit a little bit off.

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And it just naturally, you can set your clock in terms of, like, when you're waking up.

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But the reality is is that if I'm a saloon metabolizer, I'm drinking caffeine at 2 to 3

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PM.

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I'm a type of guy.

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That, like, I actually, I need to stop my caffeine take intake around, like, noon to know

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that it's not gonna impact my sleep later that night just because of the way I metabolize.

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Now you can get that through blood work and getting an understanding of how fast and slow

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you're gonna metabolize things.

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But, man, it is so important to understand the body's circadian rhythm because it naturally is

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going to impact every hormone the following day or in how you're gonna operate.

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And a lot of that's genetic.

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So, like, genetic testing is huge, and I'm a big proponent of it.

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I think everyone should kinda know what their genes are doing.

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But that's not to say you're, like, limited.

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We talk about this all the time.

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You're not limited by your genetics either.

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Oh, my dad has heart heart disease in my family.

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You're, like, metabolic disease in my family.

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It's like, bro, epigenetics is way more impactful than sticking to your genes.

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Right?

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Like, oh, I'm just this is my life.

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Right?

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I'm just gonna be fat and and out of shape.

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No.

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Because there's so many things you can do to hack your biology.

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Right?

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And so, like, that's one thing to know is, like, do I metabolize caffeine quick or slow.

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My brother me and my brother are 1 year apart.

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We've seen parents.

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He could drink an espresso shot and go right to sleep and have great sleep.

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Or it's like for me, like, it will keep my mind racing for sure.

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And so it's like the metabolism you're talking about is like, basically, if you're like on a

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graph, it's like, does it hit you quick and then wear off real quick, or does it slowly

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rise and then slowly drop.

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And so that's the fast versus slow.

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And it's, I mean, different substances for different people, like, are different.

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And then so that's just knowing your genetic variability.

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You didn't do a genetic test to figure that out.

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You just kind of found that out over time.

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Right.

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Well, no.

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It it came in our optimizer blood work.

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We know we have an understanding of that now.

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Okay.

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So you saw that.

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Did you know before then?

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Oh, absolutely.

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Not.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I did no.

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See, this is the wild thing about me though.

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I will still go to sleep rather quickly, but it's not the sleep.

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It's the quality of it.

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It's the quality of the sleep.

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So, like, it doesn't matter.

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It's the same thing when, you drink.

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Right?

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People think like, oh, yeah.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna, like, I'll drink tonight.

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I'll have two or three glasses of, like, wine or whatever it might be.

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But, like, if you do that at night, you'll go to sleep fast.

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You'll likely go to sleep fast.

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It's called passing out.

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But then it's the REM sleep you're impacting.

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Right?

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And so your body's, what they call, like, your slow wave sleep.

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And so those delta waves that happen within your slow wave sleep, it impacts you getting

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into REM and having proper REM sleep, which is ultimately going to.

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So, like, when you hit you if the depending on when you obviously metabolize too.

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So, like, that there's variabilities that might change, but that is shifted out in your body,

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your glucosus levels will, like, spike, right, when you have, like, wine.

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Right?

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There's a lot of glycogen and wine.

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There's a lot of It's just naturally you're gonna get a lot of sugars.

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And so as it's metabolizing, it's naturally gonna impact your body's circadian rhythm.

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It's wild to, like, think about just like things that trigger and how you need to

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associate.

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Okay.

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Like, when do you when do you partake in drinking?

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Right?

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It's actually a little bit better.

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To do it earlier in the day.

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Do that day drinking.

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You're telling people that day drinking?

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You're animal.

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Yeah.

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But understanding your body's circadian rhythm and, like, how how you're how things are gonna

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process.

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And then, ultimately, how embed that may impact your hormone levels.

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I mean, that's all in a chronotype.

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For sure.

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Understanding your chronotype.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Man, Corey, tell us, okay.

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So other than this product, which is the pre workout, what else are you working on?

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Are you working on anything right now?

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Yeah.

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So as far as are you talking about in general or, like, the I'm creating, like, with the Van

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Door Nutrition label?

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Yeah.

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With your brand.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So with my brand.

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So, yeah, we have the transcendence.

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I think the next product that we're gonna come out with and what's kind of been in the works.

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Just the biggest the biggest hardest decision to always make is, like, the name of it.

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Like, what you wanted to be because there's so many names.

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It's important.

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Pre workouts, pumps and stuff like that.

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And, like, so many of them already taken.

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You gotta, like, search and scan and stuff.

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Transcendence was, like, kinda unique.

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Obviously, there's no other transcendence.

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There's, like, a couple companies that are, like, transcend or something like that, but

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this one is unique.

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As far as, like, a pump product, still don't have, like, an exact name on it, but that's

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what I think I would wanna do is a pump.

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So, like, a pre workout that's a non stim only because that's, like, the most requested thing.

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They're like, when are you gonna get a a non stem?

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Because I work out at nighttime or whatever.

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So a lot of people don't just like you're saying,

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they can't catch up.

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Include?

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What would you include?

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So the thing that the thing that I would do with the pump since now, I can't have the

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nitrogen in the new formula of trans I'm gonna I'm gonna put it in the pump because it is such

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a great ingredient.

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Yeah.

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And then I'll probably load up maybe even do more citrulline than what's in there.

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We just have the clinical dose that's in there, which is, like, the dose that they do research

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with.

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56 k.

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Yeah.

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That's actually going to, like, show, like, proven results.

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Definitely gonna have beta in it.

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Because I know people like to have an itch, and it's obviously there's it's not it's more than

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just an itch with the beta.

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Otherwise, you'd be like C4 and throwing Niacin in there, and then just, like, tingle.

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Scratch your face off, but get, like, almost real no ben like, almost no real benefit

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from it.

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It's the oxidizer, though, too.

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I'm gonna increase blood flow.

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That's where you're looking to maximize.

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Yeah.

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And then glycerol.

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You were

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Yeah.

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So glycerol, I have a couple products.

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And over the years, I've had a couple pump products that have had glycerol powder in it.

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And, It's

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your skin type, bro.

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Dude, but it chunks so bad in the container.

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So people are always like, dude, you sent me shitty pre workout.

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You sent me it's like, they open it, and they always send pictures of the inside all clumped

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up.

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There's literally nothing you can do.

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We used to put 5 dry cards in the in there, but glycerol is gonna make it chunk always.

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There's nothing you can do.

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So Yes.

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It's a great pump ingredient, but the downfall of of it, we have stickers.

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We have stickers on one of our pumps that we have right now, and it says, clumps equals

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pumps.

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Like, if it's clumping in there, you know, because it It's

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a way around it.

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Yeah.

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So what it does is it absorbs all of the water, like, and that's what it does, like, in you.

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So if you're in Florida here and you open that tub up one time, that shit's gonna clump up.

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Dude, it'll clump before it's ever even sealed unsealed.

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It clumps even beforehand.

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So it it's kinda crazy, but that's, like, gotta and that's how I have to, like, kind of word it

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to everyone.

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It's like, that's what it's gonna do because you put it in water, and you mix it, it mixes

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up perfectly fine, but no one, like, to open up a clumped up brick.

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You gotta mash it down.

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We gotta scoop a little bit.

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Yeah.

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But that's what it does inside you.

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Like, you drink it, and it's just gonna suck in all the water into your muscles.

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You can give you sick pump.

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So that's what it is.

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Plumps equals pump.

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Plumps, maybe.

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I like that.

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Pretty much.

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But it's the glycerol router.

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That's good.

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Yeah.

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I used to take a product.

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I feel what it's called that had glycerol, and that was one of the best, like, it was like

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that pump where, like, I did biceps, and I was like, my arm was Like, I couldn't scratch my

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ear.

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Yeah.

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My arm was so pumped out.

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It's like well, I like how I heard all of those.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Too much.

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One thing I wanna touch on, though, because like, when I first got into the supplement, the

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pre workout industry, I I used to take I used to go to the supplement store, like, all grown

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up.

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Like, I think I first took pre workout.

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Maybe I was, like, 9th grade or something.

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And then I'd always go to the supplement store.

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I'd get, like, 3 at a time, and I'd rotate them all because I always thought, like, oh, you get

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used this when you get used to this once you, like, always circulate around.

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And, like, sometimes I get a good workout.

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Sometimes I wouldn't get a good workout.

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And it wasn't until, like, And that's kind of why I I started taking one of the products, one

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of the pre workouts from the, right around the time frame that I left college and kinda dialed

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in on my nutrition.

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And then, like, started focusing pre workout meals.

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And I was like, oh, this pre workout is, like, a game changer.

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This is, like, dope.

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And then I started to, like, actually realize it was a great pre workout a lot better than,

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all of the other ones, but realistically, determining whether or not you have a good

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workout and have a good pump is gonna be based off of what you're eating.

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Like, did you eat that day?

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Did you have a bunch of carbs before you worked out that had what is your diet?

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Like, were you hydrated?

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Like, that's gonna be the real effect of of whether or not you're gonna get a good work

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used to just think it was, like, which pre workout did I take which pre workout sucks,

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which is bad, but most likely it was like, did I have, like, a bunch of oatmeal or a bunch of

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rice or pasta or something that's, like, gonna give my glycogen source full.

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And, like, because carbs carbs give you a pump.

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You can get a carb pump.

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You're not gonna out supplement, like, poor nutrition with any supplement.

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I

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mean Exactly.

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Exactly.

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So, I just I just thought that it was, like, really interesting, but, a lot of people need

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to focus on that as well because some people will take protocol.

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They'll be like, yeah.

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Like, sometimes it's good, or sometimes it's not good, or, like, I don't I don't feel it

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anymore.

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It's like, how's your nutrition?

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And they're like, I don't know.

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I'm like, I don't pay attention to it.

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It's like, okay.

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Then that's where the missing control group is.

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Just bringing up one more thing.

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It's also like the micro vitamins that you're putting in.

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And so it's like, yeah, it's important to I was telling my mom this last night of all things.

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She hasn't figured out why, like, she goes to bed at, like, 11 o'clock.

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She's like, if I go to bed before 11 o'clock, I'll I'll be up all night.

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And I was like, have you ever your vitamin d supply.

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I was like, do you know?

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Do you know where your vitamin d lies?

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And she she's like, no.

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And I'm like, well, that's a that's a pretty important thing like, understand and know.

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She's like, well, I'm out.

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I'm out in the sun.

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I was like, you live in Michigan, number 1.

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I'm in Florida, and I have my shirt off, like, 80% of the time I'm home.

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Like, it never off.

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Take it off right now.

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Pop that top.

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Pop that top, Patty Duke.

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I told that to Jake Campbell.

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Pop that top, bro.

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So I have my shirt off.

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Right?

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I'm I'd like when I get home, I take off my shoes.

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Like, I, like, I mean, not that I intentionally ground, but I, like, that's a part of, like,

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kind of that grounding is just to neutralize.

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So I like taking off my shoes and socks, taking off my shirt, just, like, being half naked,

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pretty much majority of the time.

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Pretty much.

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Which I think everyone should be.

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I at least guys.

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And she's like, I don't know.

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I get enough vitamin d.

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And I'm like, no, you don't because I was deficient vitamin d until I measured it.

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And so I was like, if I'm deficient in vitamin d, I guarantee you, and I live in Florida, the

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sunshine state, Like, that is the reason why, like, your sleep is getting impacted, and

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you're, like, exposing yourself to blue lights.

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There's a number I love you.

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There's, like, sleep things that you can go into.

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But, like, vitamin D is so crucial.

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So getting those micro vitamins in, that's why we built out the optimizers pack.

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To, like, make sure you're getting that proper micro supplementation.

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It's not even a vitamin.

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It's a pro hormone.

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Yeah.

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Vitamin d creates cholesterol or works with cholesterol to create your heart your sex

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hormones.

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Like testosterone, estrogen, all that.

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So vitamin DIG, it's a I don't know where the name came from, to be honest.

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I probably could look that up, but it's not actually a vitamin.

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That's what people don't understand.

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But

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But you can supplement it.

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You can supplement it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But You can supplement it.

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And then what vitamin d, though, my understanding, and I'd I honestly could be

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wrong on this, but vitamin d, secretes melatonin.

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So you naturally have better sleep when you secrete Melatonin.

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So it's like the storage bank.

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Right?

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So Melatonin, when you go outside, like, people think that they are, like, their melatonin is

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just, like, his bank.

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Like, they can get it through property.

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Like, you can obviously supplement

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Well, that's a hormone too.

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Right?

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So it's like if you don't have enough vitamin d, you're not creating all these things.

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Right?

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These processes aren't gonna happen in the body.

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Right.

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So that's kinda, yeah, yeah, 100%.

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And so then when you engage, like, Melatonin's immediately engaged when you get into it's your

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darkness drug.

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And so, like, when you go into darkness, that's when Melatonin is naturally.

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Okay.

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Like, the body's understanding the

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body thinks it's going to bed.

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Right?

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Sleep time.

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And so but if you don't have an efficient amount of melatonin supply built up, through

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getting that vitamin d, getting outside.

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That's when it's stored throughout the day.

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Right?

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And so that's when it comes so crucial to have that level of supplementation involved in there

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too.

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Well, that's supplement?

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Do you

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Yeah.

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I don't I don't take, like, a bunch of, like, multivate.

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I pretty much just take I take juice plus.

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It's like a green it's like a condensed fruits and vegetables blend, and I take some omegas.

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And then I just ran out.

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Like, yesterday, I gotta go get more, but I started taking zinc.

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I think it's zinc.

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Okay.

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And I just take, like, 80 milligrams.

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So I don't I don't know if that's too much or too little.

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I've found

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it for research, but,

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yeah, just 50.

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But, yeah, that's that's about it other than whatever stuff is in, like, the the amino acid

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blends, the electrolytes that I take Yeah.

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As far as micro nutrients go.

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Do you do you measure sleep as well?

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Yeah, my my watch does.

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I like to think that it's kind of accurate, but, I mean, it's a it's a garment.

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So I don't know.

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Do you have any

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the technology is pretty good nowadays.

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I mean, they're all if it's one of the more recent ones, for sure.

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I think they're all somewhat similar, you know, and, like, I think the biggest thing with that

00:14:17
is, like, using the same device.

00:14:19
Like, don't track your sleep one night with that and then the next night, use an or a ring,

00:14:22
and then the next night using Apple Watch is gonna be all over the place.

00:14:24
You don't know if that's going

00:14:25
I feel like, yeah, even if it's not a 100% accurate, at least it can be

00:14:29
At least it's 10% off each time.

00:14:31
Yeah.

00:14:31
Yeah.

00:14:31
Yeah.

00:14:31
Right?

00:14:31
Like, yeah.

00:14:32
I agree.

00:14:33
I I was doing the whoop man.

00:14:34
So I measured the whoop man for about a year.

00:14:37
And, like, my sleep was relatively good.

00:14:39
The one thing that I didn't love is, like, a wearable, like, when I was sleeping.

00:14:43
Like, I think something.

00:14:44
Yeah.

00:14:44
I didn't love it.

00:14:45
Yeah.

00:14:46
So a lot of guys do, the ordering.

00:14:49
I know that gets really good feedback too.

00:14:52
Okay.

00:14:52
I probably that probably would be something a little bit better for me just because it's on,

00:14:56
but I don't even wear rings.

00:14:58
But, you know, that it's awesome to track your sleep.

00:15:01
I just chose to do it for a year because I was like, I wanna see what range I'm in.

00:15:05
If I'm getting proper REM, just because that's, like, so important to, like, overall health and

00:15:10
longevity.

00:15:11
One of the things we're talking about was, like, Like, we predispositions are, like, where

00:15:17
we can make excuses in terms of where those lie.

00:15:21
And so, like, if people make excuses, oh, my, like, my mom and dad at, like dementia or,

00:15:27
Parkinson's or whatever it might be.

00:15:29
And the one crucial thing going back to that thing I said earlier in the podcast of, like,

00:15:34
did my eighty five year old self thank me thank me for what I did today.

00:15:38
That, like, all those, like, precursors exercise expanding your VO 2 max, getting

00:15:43
proper sleep, delays that.

00:15:45
Right?

00:15:46
So even though that might be in your genetic makeup, that pushes that out, right, And so,

00:15:51
like, if I'm doing these things, these naturally will, like, be pushed out.

00:15:55
So maybe your mom, your mom, or your dad, might've got Parkinson's when they're seventy

00:16:00
years old.

00:16:00
The reality that might be in your genetic makeup still.

00:16:03
Well, the reality is also that that Parkinson's didn't that

00:16:06
that didn't begin when they

00:16:06
were seventy years old.

00:16:09
That happened when they were 30.

00:16:10
Those those things started building up.

00:16:11
Right?

00:16:12
And that's why I said it on a podcast that we had, Micah and Diane on is, like, you are

00:16:16
setting the stage now for that eighty five year old self that you you talk about when you're

00:16:20
thirty years old, right, you're putting into place how you're gonna age.

00:16:24
Right?

00:16:24
And if it's fast food, shit, sugar, garbage, all that.

00:16:28
Like, you are predisposing yourself to metabolic disease down the line.

00:16:31
Yeah.

00:16:32
Hands out.

00:16:32
You're not gonna it starts now for sure.

00:16:35
Oh, most of those dementia and, like, brain neurocognitive things happen like now.

00:16:39
When do you because I've had this conversation actually with, like, one of a a client that

00:16:43
started literally Monday.

00:16:44
A lot of people, they don't realize, like, and like you were saying with the basketball, like,

00:16:48
there's people in their twenties And I I know people that are my age, and they're like, oh,

00:16:51
dude, like, back in my day, I used to be able to do that.

00:16:53
And they're like, beer belly now and, like, act like in, like, someone like you or, like, I

00:16:58
know people that are in their forties, fifties that are, like, super active 6 pack, like,

00:17:02
whatever.

00:17:03
They're in great shape and, like, the the number isn't campaign excuse for something

00:17:06
that's, like, in their twenties.

00:17:07
But with my client, the conversation that he was saying, he's like, dude, I'm like, I'm 28

00:17:11
now.

00:17:12
It's like, got a long looking for longevity.

00:17:14
I'm trying to, like, dial it in.

00:17:15
Now is the time to, like, learn everything I can about nutrition, training, how I can, like,

00:17:20
be in the best shape ever and play with my grandkids and not, like, be dead or, like, be,

00:17:25
like, metabolically sick or just sick or have an illness.

00:17:28
When is, like, the turning point for, like, the majority of people you think that they, like,

00:17:32
start focusing on that?

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00:17:58
Yeah.

00:17:58
What I've seen specifically, because we target 30 plus.

00:17:59
Right?

00:17:59
But it's in that 30 range where people start And, you know, I think kids have, like, a major

00:18:07
factor in that too.

00:18:09
Mine wasn't.

00:18:09
I, man, I went through a state of depression in my, like, my mid twenties because I'm like, I

00:18:15
didn't go play basketball.

00:18:17
I could've played collegiate basketball and just was like, I didn't I should've gone to a

00:18:21
juco school.

00:18:22
Like, worked up my skill set a little bit more, and then I could've gone.

00:18:25
I was probably prepared mentally then.

00:18:27
And I'm like, I chose not to because I had a bad attitude.

00:18:31
And so then I got out of that, and I just was like, my best days are behind me.

00:18:35
Like, not gonna play basketball again.

00:18:37
And so that mentality was like, I held on to that for, like, 3 or 4 years, man.

00:18:42
I'd like, I shoulda.

00:18:43
I shoulda.

00:18:43
I shoulda.

00:18:44
But then on the outset of that, you know, I'd like I talk about this all the time, but I,

00:18:49
like, went into celebrate recovery program.

00:18:51
And I'm like, god, like, like, I I need to figure my mindset out.

00:18:56
Right?

00:18:56
I, like, please, And so I thought it was for a bunch of drug addicts, but the reality is it

00:19:02
was, like, exactly what I needed.

00:19:04
And so, like, I read this Bible cover to cover I'm like, oh, I get that.

00:19:07
Like, I gotta I got all these stories, but then it became like, dude, my best days are ahead of

00:19:13
me no matter what.

00:19:14
Like, I if I'm walking and breathing, like somebody asked me how I'm doing, dude, I had a

00:19:18
couple l's pat the past week and, in some, like, just the investment activities.

00:19:23
That I was working on.

00:19:25
And, and the guy asked me how I was doing.

00:19:27
I was like, dude, freaking, I'm blessed, man.

00:19:30
I'm

00:19:30
walking and I'm crazy.

00:19:31
Blessed.

00:19:32
I'm walking on breathing.

00:19:33
Yeah.

00:19:33
And so there and there's that days.

00:19:36
Like, everyone's rock bottom is different.

00:19:38
So, like, there's variability amongst everyone.

00:19:40
But what I've seen, honestly, it's where guys specifically, we're talking about in the realm

00:19:46
of guys, right, because I can empathize with guys is that in their thirties, they're still,

00:19:52
like, they're they wanna be high earners.

00:19:54
They wanna and then they start having kids.

00:19:57
Like, they probably get married and start having kids.

00:19:59
But, like, just the busyness of life, they're like, dude, I don't have time for this anymore.

00:20:03
I gotta run my kids to I gotta run my kids to, Freaking soccer every weekend.

00:20:09
And then I gotta and then I gotta work, you know, 12 hours a day.

00:20:13
But how inefficient do you become then And, like, and then they get lack of clarity.

00:20:18
And then every year, they're adding on £23 and then it won't now I'm £30 overweight.

00:20:24
And that's when, like, I don't wanna get myself out of breath again.

00:20:27
I don't wanna do all these things that are really, really uncomfortable

00:20:31
harder to start again.

00:20:32
Yeah.

00:20:32
It's super, super hard.

00:20:34
And so that turning point then becomes, man, I I let myself go for the past, like, 10 years.

00:20:39
Like, you know, like, 26 man.

00:20:41
Like, I look back.

00:20:42
I like, oh, I I look good then, but shoot, man.

00:20:45
Look at me now.

00:20:46
And he usually is like a picture.

00:20:48
You know, of a guys that are hitting rock bottom, they're like, what?

00:20:53
When they realize that when they realize

00:20:55
it show themself back then, they're like, damn.

00:20:57
Yeah.

00:20:57
That's a bad angle.

00:20:58
I'm a big believer.

00:20:59
You know, I I coach people through this too, but I'm a big believer in, wherever you are,

00:21:05
like, no matter what, you have to, you have to project into the through vocalization, really,

00:21:14
like, tell either looking yourself in the mirror or telling other people.

00:21:17
I'm a big believer in telling other people too.

00:21:19
I, like, I don't even care.

00:21:20
Even if you weren't there of where you're going.

00:21:23
Right?

00:21:24
And so, like, that verbalization over and over again until it becomes a redo redefinition of

00:21:28
that that truth narrative of and that's where I go.

00:21:33
We came up with this concept of the forever athlete.

00:21:36
It's like, I don't care if you're £30 overweight.

00:21:38
I don't care if you thought you were an athlete at, like, 18 or 22 or 26 or whatever.

00:21:43
Like, you still are.

00:21:45
And then it's that projection of what where you're going.

00:21:48
Right?

00:21:48
And so with me, I dude, I like I probably I have a decent vertical still right now.

00:21:53
Like, I mean, I can't I I can't, like, dunk, dunk, dunk, but I can I can pop up and grab

00:22:00
grab, you know, the rim both bands?

00:22:01
And I'm like, dude, coming on coming up on 40, Like, that that's, like, there's a progression

00:22:07
in that.

00:22:07
Right?

00:22:09
Eventually, that probably will go away, but I'm gonna age gracefully into that approach, but it

00:22:13
usually is in that 30 time frame where you'll just see the business and busyness of life that

00:22:19
they just let it go.

00:22:20
That's it.

00:22:21
Yeah.

00:22:21
I think like, transition slowly, like, late twenties to early thirties is, like, that shift

00:22:26
starts to happen.

00:22:26
You get out of college.

00:22:27
You still got energy because you're in your twenties, but you start take on more

00:22:30
responsibility.

00:22:31
Maybe, you know, you got some kids.

00:22:32
Now you're getting promoted.

00:22:34
And it's like, those priorities take over the fitness priority for most people.

00:22:38
Right?

00:22:39
Like, were outliers in this realm.

00:22:41
I I never was not fit, like, my third after high school.

00:22:44
You know

00:22:44
what I mean?

00:22:45
Like, I've always been.

00:22:46
So but I prioritized it.

00:22:48
Most people don't.

00:22:49
And so I think my take to that then is, like, it will never be easier to make that change

00:22:54
than it is right now.

00:22:55
It's always gonna just every day you prolong it, it's gonna get a little harder.

00:22:58
Gonna get a little harder.

00:22:59
So you gotta change it right now, whether that's a little bit or a lot, you choose,

00:23:03
right, like, however you wanna go about that, but it's it's not gonna get any easier the more

00:23:07
you would, like, sit on that.

00:23:09
You know what I mean?

00:23:10
That's why we do this podcast too because at the end of the day, like, I think that

00:23:13
narrative is changing, though.

00:23:15
People are thinking at 20 He was 28.

00:23:18
Your client?

00:23:18
Yeah.

00:23:18
Yeah.

00:23:19
About to be.

00:23:19
Yep.

00:23:20
About to be 28.

00:23:21
So, no, your client.

00:23:22
Your client

00:23:23
is about to be 28.

00:23:25
Okay.

00:23:25
Younger than me.

00:23:26
Yeah.

00:23:26
So you know, that narrative is changing where you're seeing guys, like, got I I I see guys,

00:23:34
like, in their their like, late forties and fifties where longevity isn't even on their

00:23:40
thing.

00:23:40
They're just like, I'm aging, like, whatever.

00:23:42
It's naturally to gain weight.

00:23:43
But, like, I think in the twenties and thirties now, like, that generation, the millennial

00:23:49
generation is thinking a little bit differently.

00:23:51
I think they're catching it a little bit earlier.

00:23:53
Like, man, I'm I'm like, I'm digressing, like, pretty quickly, and I need to I need to catch

00:23:58
up on this.

00:23:59
And I think that dialogue is shifting, the narrative shifting a lot more with the way

00:24:05
information is exposed now.

00:24:06
So, like, I, you know, when I chose to do cold water, it started for me, it started cold water

00:24:12
therapy, right, I started doing cold water therapy probably about, like, 29:30 is when,

00:24:19
like, cold showers is how I introduce myself to it.

00:24:21
Right?

00:24:22
And then I'm like, well, there's gotta be a little bit more to this, right, and then

00:24:25
building that up last year, though, which I don't believe in this.

00:24:29
And I I think we on this a little bit prior to the podcast, but, like, you know, fasting has

00:24:34
been this, like, hot topic.

00:24:35
So I guinea pig myself with fasting, lost an insane amount of muscle mass.

00:24:39
Like, an insane amount of muscle mass.

00:24:41
Right?

00:24:42
Yeah.

00:24:42
Because I was still focusing on cardiovascular.

00:24:44
I was fasting, like, a day a week and that for, like, a full 24 hours.

00:24:49
And when we talk about fasting, it's 18 plus hours, a fasting.

00:24:52
Right?

00:24:53
Probably under protein, though.

00:24:54
Oh, under protein as well.

00:24:55
I was, yeah, because I test it

00:24:57
out, like, if you get to see, make sure

00:24:58
it wasn't getting nearly enough protein in.

00:25:00
No.

00:25:00
No.

00:25:01
So although I was, like, I was operating at a high level.

00:25:04
I'd lay literally, I mean, my cardiovascular was phenomenal.

00:25:07
Yeah.

00:25:08
But the reality is that's that's not the component of longevity with that, dude.

00:25:12
Died, but

00:25:12
I think you tanked your tea with that shit because you said you were I didn't know you

00:25:15
went vegan.

00:25:16
I love to do that for

00:25:17
Not very long.

00:25:17
I mean, I, like, I tested it out for a month.

00:25:20
It it was just so hard to get food, like, the right food in going vegan.

00:25:24
So, like, I periodically, I I I don't think it's bad to, like, you know, test that out,

00:25:30
trigger your body, you were saying that level of like

00:25:32
I mean, I use vegan in those detoxes because you're get you know, it's, say, easily,

00:25:37
consumable stuff.

00:25:38
Your body's gonna break down pretty easily, but you're not getting the immuno acids.

00:25:42
You know what I mean?

00:25:43
And that's where you lost muscles.

00:25:44
You didn't have amino acids or complete protein sources and then freaking burning it.

00:25:49
Right?

00:25:50
Yeah.

00:25:50
Yeah.

00:25:51
But

00:25:52
to go back to the point, man.

00:25:53
I I think the narrative is changing.

00:25:55
The the narrative, for sure, I think people are in their twenties.

00:25:59
Are thinking that way, They're like, man, I'll let a few years go by.

00:26:02
One big thing that I've seen is that, you know, I focus on money too.

00:26:06
I believe in wealth.

00:26:07
Right?

00:26:08
And and that, like, you you would still build wealth, but does it come at the compromise of

00:26:14
your health?

00:26:14
Because you get to choose what's more important, and they can have a symbiotic

00:26:19
relationship, right, that you don't need to make money on fitness like what we do.

00:26:24
And teaching people this stuff.

00:26:25
But the reality is is that you can put it as, like, that number 1 as you're setting that

00:26:32
standard and then that wealth component, yeah, you might make a little less money.

00:26:36
I don't think that's the case.

00:26:38
I think you'll make more money in the long run.

00:26:40
The discipline of being fit will help you in

00:26:42
And is the reason why I believe this because this is what I love about being an entrepreneur

00:26:47
is this is the way I think.

00:26:48
I don't think in a scarcity mindset, because if I can maintain my health the likelihood is I

00:26:53
can be more efficient and likely live longer and be able to work longer because I'm never

00:26:58
gonna retire.

00:26:59
Right?

00:26:59
That's true.

00:26:59
So if I'm it it it I can pick and choose.

00:27:03
I still pick and choose of the hours of the day I'd like wanna work.

00:27:06
I work very hard right now, but I also put in that of, like, health is my main priority

00:27:11
because number 1, and I say this all the time in our podcast with kids, things do trigger.

00:27:16
You gotta go from?

00:27:18
Yeah.

00:27:18
Yeah.

00:27:18
Alright.

00:27:19
So you don't have any kids, though.

00:27:20
Right?

00:27:21
Not yet.

00:27:21
No.

00:27:21
So It's good.

00:27:23
Not that when when a kid comes into your life, right, that a big piece for me is now I'm a

00:27:29
model.

00:27:30
Like, I got I model that.

00:27:32
Right?

00:27:32
And so I'm modeling whatever I'm doing.

00:27:35
And so if I'm if I'm not modeling correctly, I'm not setting a standard that, like, I want

00:27:42
them to be.

00:27:42
Right?

00:27:43
And so I'm, like, then I'm mitigating, like, mitigating risk.

00:27:45
Do I want this kid to be, like Do

00:27:47
you want your kid to be fat lazy?

00:27:48
Right.

00:27:48
No.

00:27:49
Why are you fat lazy?

00:27:49
Yeah.

00:27:50
Exactly.

00:27:50
Everything you do.

00:27:51
My kids do everything I do.

00:27:53
Exactly.

00:27:53
And you're incorporating them into those things.

00:27:55
So we do everything together, like, one one thing that we have, and this is a small little

00:28:00
tidbit hack that I think so many people could take away.

00:28:04
You never sit down after dinner.

00:28:04
We always walk.

00:28:04
We walk a mile ever after every after every dinner, we never sit down and watch TV or on

00:28:15
our tablets.

00:28:16
We get together as a family.

00:28:17
My daughter told me this last night.

00:28:19
She'd say, dad, you Always always say, like, we need to go for a walk.

00:28:23
And I'm like, absolutely.

00:28:24
Because we're setting a standard.

00:28:25
Right?

00:28:25
She's gonna remember that, like, her whole life.

00:28:27
How old is she?

00:28:28
She's 4.

00:28:29
She's gonna just well,

00:28:29
you're gonna keep saying it, but she's always looking for that.

00:28:32
Yeah.

00:28:32
So here's

00:28:32
the thing dad always did.

00:28:34
The first 10 minutes after dinner are the most important things that you can do for your

00:28:37
health.

00:28:38
And, so, like, you can you can become static or you can get up and walk when we choose to walk

00:28:42
as a family.

00:28:43
So, anyways, you know, that's that's been the case with my life, but I think there is I think

00:28:47
they're a a strong narrative is changing right now.

00:28:50
Yeah.

00:28:50
Definitely.

00:28:51
But

00:28:52
And it takes it takes guys like us to, like, educate people because that's a lot of it too.

00:28:57
And we talk about this all the time.

00:28:58
It's like, there's just such a lack of knowledge in the realm.

00:29:00
Like, you're taught all this curriculum in school and, like, That knows I'm, like, a

00:29:05
little anti, like, but, like, like, conventional school.

00:29:07
Like, I just think they teach you all this stuff that, like, you don't use in real life.

00:29:12
Like, history is great, but I can Google that anytime I want.

00:29:15
Why don't they teach kids how to do taxes?

00:29:17
Why don't they teach kids how to run a business?

00:29:18
Why don't they teach kids how to healthy.

00:29:20
Like, what schools is that freaking taught in?

00:29:22
They gave you pizza and shit for lunch at a whole time.

00:29:25
Just say that, like, the the model is not the mod like, any parents listening, the model is

00:29:30
not out there for your kids.

00:29:31
You gotta be that model.

00:29:33
So Huge.

00:29:34
And, yeah, I mean.

00:29:34
Take that with you.

00:29:36
100%.

00:29:36
I'm sure

00:29:37
you gotta go out this guy, bro.

00:29:38
He's gonna be crushed.

00:29:40
And kids

00:29:40
are gonna be dialed, man.

00:29:42
Dialed, man.

00:29:42
You are.

00:29:43
You're dialed.

00:29:43
Well, I appreciate coming on the show, man.

00:29:45
Let me

00:29:45
ask one more question, bro.

00:29:46
We ask this all the time.

00:29:47
It's a full fueled question.

00:29:49
We have 6 pillars, fuel, movement, sleep, mind, spirit, and work.

00:29:55
Right?

00:29:55
And if you got all 6 of those things dialed in, like you are functioning high level at all of

00:29:59
them, that's being full fueled.

00:30:01
What does that look like for Corey Van Dorn?

00:30:04
So I have the 3 that are dialed in right now because break it down differently with, like,

00:30:09
my clients and, like, my people, I break it down into 3.

00:30:13
It's gonna be the training, the nutrition, and then the rest of recovery.

00:30:16
And then I'd break it down almost, like, like, at Square, and then it's, like, the quantity,

00:30:19
the quality, and the timing of each of those 3.

00:30:21
And then if you can break it down into those 9, so I think I got those 3 unlocked.

00:30:25
What were the the other 3 in your

00:30:27
spirit, work, and mind.

00:30:29
I mean, and then sleeps the the one too, but you had rest recovery.

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So, yeah, I'd say spirit, work, and mind are probably the ones

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I would say I would say I need to definitely work on the, the mind 1.

00:30:39
I just wanna I I mean, I'm always trying to learn, but I think I just I can definitely

00:30:43
double down on that.

00:30:44
I mean, I'm Gross.

00:30:45
On, like, 10 x on, like, training nutrition, rest, and recovery.

00:30:48
I got that down to a tee, expanding, my knowledge learning more and more and more.

00:30:52
That's what I wanna really, like, do these next, like, forever, really, but, like, really

00:30:57
hammer down on right now.

00:30:58
And along with, like, mindset too.

00:30:59
Right?

00:30:59
It's like, are you in a growth mindset or are you in a scarcity mindset, which we talk about

00:31:03
all the time?

00:31:04
Like, is it scarcity?

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Am I thinking like, oh, what could happen, or am I like, no.

00:31:07
Fuck at go for it.

00:31:08
It works.

00:31:09
It works, man.

00:31:09
Like, you know, but always, like, pushing forward and I I'd take risks, you know, me,

00:31:14
man.

00:31:14
I'm, like, the type to, like, jump first, like, see what's underneath me after.

00:31:18
Like, you know what I mean?

00:31:19
Let's just jump, bro.

00:31:20
If there's rocks, there's rocks.

00:31:21
If there's water, it's cool.

00:31:23
Yeah.

00:31:23
There's there's gonna be a parachute on the way down.

00:31:25
Somebody's gonna jump off a cliff onto rocks and freaking blame me for that.

00:31:28
So that was a metaphor for anyone listening.

00:31:31
It's a metaphor.

00:31:32
Yeah.

00:31:32
No.

00:31:32
I think it's from, I'm super nerdy when it comes to that, but, like, if you have that

00:31:36
longevity mindset of, like, preparing your mind and, consistently growing, there's that there's

00:31:42
that neurological component that creates more neuroplasticity within the brain.

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The more you read, the more you consume, the more knowledge you can have.

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It just is ultimately just gonna make you more powerful human.

00:31:53
So that's what it's about, surrounding yourself with the right people.

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Consistently learning, growing.

00:31:58
That's living full field.

00:31:59
That's living full field.

00:32:00
Full field, maybe in full field.

00:32:01
Corey Van Duorn, thanks so much, brother.

00:32:03
Appreciate you guys Avenue, man.

00:32:05
They're full fuel.

00:32:05
I should have.

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Full fuel.

00:32:06
They're full fuel.

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They'll be out limits.