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Avius is a label that they give you that tells you what you just told them you have.
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My bowels kinda irritable.
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Hey.
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You have irritable bowel syndrome.
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I just told you that.
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What do you got?
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What do you mean?
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Right?
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To me, that's like Mhmm.
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It's like the most bogus kinda diagnostic.
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The garbage diagnosis.
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Yes.
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Anytime they put syndrome on the end of something, that means they don't know what
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it is.
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Yeah.
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They'll just put the first couple of words.
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Like, these play into it and then syndrome.
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Ta da.
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So that's basically what it was.
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They kind of ruled out super scary stuff, like IVD, which is irritable disease, ulcerative
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colitis, Crohn's.
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Welcome to the full field podcast with your host Matt tag.
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What's up, man?
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Who are you?
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I'm Doctor Alfred Lesson.
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Oh, there we go.
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They know by now.
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No by now.
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Good to give a bet.
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Love it.
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Well, we also have a very, very accomplished and decorated guest on show today, past
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classmate of mine in chiropractic school, good friend, doctor Anya Sizetti.
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Said that correct?
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Segghetti.
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Segghetti.
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The z is silent.
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So pardon the butcher there.
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Doctor Anya Segghetti is a holistic functional doctor and the founder of back to health
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functional medicine She is the creator of the Sighetti Method and the best selling author of
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you can't outrun your fork.
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Doctor Anya is passionate about empowering, educating, and equipping others to take charge
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of their own health so they can prosper, thrive, and live a life they love.
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Doctor Anya is here on the show to dispel the myths and set the record straight when it comes
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to fancy marketing gimmicks and provide insight on what is actually beneficial for our health
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and what is actually dangerous for us to consume.
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Doctor Anya, Doctor Anya.
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Right?
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Last time I saw you.
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Welcome to Full Fuel.
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We're so glad to have you on the show.
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Awesome to be here.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, ma'am.
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It's a pleasure.
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We're super excited I, one thing I noticed about you as soon as I met you, I'm like, wow,
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this woman has amazing energy.
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So I just wanna compliment you right off the bat.
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You can feel it.
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So it's cool.
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We're excited that you're here with us today.
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If you could just give us a little background on kind of the story of what led you into
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functional medicine and then also what led you in to becoming an author So we're excited to
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dig deep, but if you just give a little background on yourself.
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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So I think a lot of folks that find themselves in the holistic space have their own health
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journey.
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That they went on.
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And that was my story too.
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So little bit of a short version of my story is I was active duty military.
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And then when I got out of the service, I was a surgical medical device sales rep for a
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corporate America company.
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And with that job comes a lot of stress, a lot of travel, At the same time, I was also
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training for and competing in Ironman Trathlons and Ultra marathons, the longest being fifty
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miles.
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So, yeah, that's a fun way.
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That's a that's
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a freaking long race.
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But
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And the Ironman, also, two point four mile swim, a 112 mile bike, and then a full on it
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there.
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That's insane.
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Do they call you an iron woman?
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What it's
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A lot of people call me an iron woman.
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You are an iron woman.
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You got
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the tat.
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You have the tat.
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You have
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the tat.
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Alright.
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You're official.
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She's using it.
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That's the 4th part of the triathlon is getting the tattoo.
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You gotta finish first.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I'm I'm crazy enough to too.
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So I'm doing all of that.
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Those are my hobbies.
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Right?
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That's my stress relief and while working in corporate America.
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And so as I progressed with my career, They rewarded me with, promotion and more and more
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territory.
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So originally, I was covering the state of Florida, and then they kept adding state So
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then I was covering 11 States in the southeast.
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So this, as a regional sales manager, I'm going around to different locations up to four
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different locations in a week.
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I think that's a lot of travel.
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And so, you know, I'm stressed.
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I'm running around like crazy.
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I'm, you know, taking a 4 AM flight out coming back that night, go to another location the
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next day.
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So I made a lot of compromises when it came to my health, primarily nutrition, because, you
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know, airport food, hotel food.
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It's not the best quality.
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It's garbage.
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It's garbage.
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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So I was putting garbage in, and then I was also really pushed my body to extreme limits
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and not feeling it properly.
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And so I actually got really, really sick and sick in the definition of just feeling
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exhausted, digestive issues.
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I mean, I used to keep a note in my phone.
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So just not to you were you were doing all this
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Mhmm.
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And still training for ultra marathons.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Alright.
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And Ironman.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yes.
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So All the ends.
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Yeah.
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You're
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yes.
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Sleep was terrible.
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Stress off the charts.
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Nutrition, terrible.
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You know, hormones in the garbage, like, just everything, just just totally wrecking myself
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as as best I could as quickly as possible.
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So yeah, so I had, you know, all the digestive issues.
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And as I was saying, I used to keep a note in my phone of all the symptoms that I had because
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it was coming everywhere.
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People are like, oh, what did you start with?
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I don't know, because I started to just kind of ignore it.
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Right?
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I think we all do that.
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We get some pain.
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We'll take a pill.
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We have digestive issues.
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We take a
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Yeah.
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Or, you know, whatever, because we have to keep going, right?
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We have to keep performing.
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And so I I really started to just feel this and not be able to hide from it anymore.
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And so I went to my doctor, and she ran my blood work.
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And she says, oh, everything's normal.
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Air quotes.
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I like the air quotes there.
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It's like Normal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, how how can everything be normal?
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I feel like complete garbage?
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Like, how is that possible?
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And, you know, now I realize that that's unfortunately quite common that a lot of people
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will go and get a very basic panel done, and it doesn't really show anything.
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So there has to be a deeper dive.
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And so I actually turned into my own health advocate and researched about what could be
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causing this.
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And I went back to my doctor, and I was like, pushing her.
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Like, can you run these additional tests?
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Can you check-in deeper to see what's going on?
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And thankfully, she did after a little bit of persuading.
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I'm not very persuasive at all.
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So, you know, she just was like, ah, sure.
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Whatever.
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And we found that I had antibodies to my thyroid, and my thyroid was underperforming.
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But she tells me You're not sick enough to medicate yet.
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So we're just gonna wait until you get sicker, and then we'll medicate you for the rest of
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your life.
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Health care, baby.
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That's what we call health care in this country right there.
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We're paying for right there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's it's backwards for sure.
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Yes.
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Out.
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So
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Wow.
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On the outside, though, you probably still look pretty good.
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I think so.
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I mean, I have pictures.
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I was ripped.
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I mean, I, you know, but I was still throwing snickers in my little bags in between my events
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because that's what I use.
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That was what I look forward to on the bike is to to have a snicker.
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Because you
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didn't have the newts.
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You know?
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I didn't have the newts.
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I didn't I Where
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were you, Maddie?
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About this.
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Need
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to know, man.
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Need to know.
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I needed you.
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Where were you?
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That's why we're here now.
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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So, you know, I I look back at that time.
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And, of course, in the moment, I'm frustrated.
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I'm feeling helpless and hopeless list.
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But I'm thankful for it now, because that's what led me to find holistic functional
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medicine.
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Yeah.
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And I actually worked with the
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doctor out in Colorado
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back
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before you know, whole the virtual thing was, was the cool thing to do.
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And we took a deep dive.
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I mean, we tore apart my diet, my lifestyle, made some major modifications, added in some
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supplementation.
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And then I go back to my doctor in 3 months, right?
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She's she has to pad out because I'm supposed to get worse because we've never done it.
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We haven't done anything.
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And she's like, wait a minute.
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Your labs are getting better.
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What are you doing?
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So I'm like, I'm doing this and that.
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Like, I'm
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healing, maybe.
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Yeah.
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She was just like, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Whatever.
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Just keep doing it.
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I'm sleeping.
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Yeah.
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I'm actually sleeping.
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Yes.
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She's like, just keep doing it.
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It seems to be working.
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Totally brushed me off, but I didn't care because that made such a transformative effect
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of my health and my life.
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I vividly remember going home to my, my husband's with my boyfriend at the time.
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And I was like, hey, so I'm gonna quit this really lucrative job and go to school.
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With people that are a little younger than me is fine.
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And that's right, Matt Alfred.
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And, you know, just really dedicate my life to this.
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So I did the chiropractic doctorate.
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I also did the certification for acupuncture and the 300 hour Diplomate internal medicine,
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functional medicine, all at the same time.
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Wow.
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Killing it.
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Yeah.
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It's more than what I was doing.
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I was just That's crushing it.
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That's making a change right there.
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Yeah.
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How cool is that?
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Can you, I this might be a little, like, swaying off topic, but how imperative was sleep
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in that time frame, like, where you made, or what was one thing that you just made right off
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the bat that was, like, you you felt like kind of was the tipping point in that change or the
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in that mental shift?
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Well, one sleep was super important, so we can definitely dive into that more.
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Okay.
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But if we look at nutrition, one thing that I changed that was significant for me was
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actually consuming healthy fats.
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That made a big difference because I was consuming all the garbage.
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You know, labeled gluten free on the front, process packaged alter, you know, I don't I
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don't even call that food anymore because that's not nourishing the body.
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And so I was eating all the garbage oils and unhealthy fats and trans fats and all that
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stuff.
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And when I switched to actually healthy fats and nourishing my body, starting to rebuild my
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hormones and all those different, it's amazing.
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That was life changing for me.
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Huge.
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I that's one thing that's been, we've been honestly focusing.
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So we have a, like, a third pouch we're working on right now with food scientist.
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But was kind of that understanding when you go into a race, how important fats are for that
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mindset the, kind of, the early onset of, like, that pre nutrition, that intro nutrition, and
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the post nutrition of how you're doing that.
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But I treat it every day like a race.
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And how are we treating every day going into that?
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How are you getting the appropriate fats?
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Maybe early in the morning to get that mind moving when you're coming out of your circadian
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rhythm and going into your Altradians throughout the day.
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So that's one thing that has been really a shift for me over, really, the past 5 years is
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I set a bedtime routine and then I go to bed at Like, it's a non negotiable for me now.
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I just go to bed at 9:30.
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And, like, my wife and, like, we have family in town right now, I'd be like, is met.
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You know?
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And they, of course, you know, I'm in bed because I yeah.
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I'm optimizing.
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Like, I need to make sure my circadian rhythm stays in that cycle.
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That when I get up in the morning, my body's prepared to be well optimized so that I love
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that.
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That's so crucial and understanding kind of that the fat load.
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But if we can, and I know Alethia has I have so many different questions.
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I wanna I wanna kinda stick to the, like, a little bit to your story and kind of, you know,
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what you were experiencing.
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Obviously, you said it was a thyroid issue.
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That was the diagnosis.
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Mhmm.
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But we know as functional medicine doctors, there's a root cause.
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Right?
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And so you focus a lot on gut health with what you do with your practice was and maybe break
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down some of this a little bit nerdy for the the audience.
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We have people who listen that are into what how does the gut affect the thyroid?
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Right?
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Like, what is that combination, or how why does that matter?
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Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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So if we look at to my official diagnosis is Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is autoimmune
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hypothyroid.
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And so if we back up to the gut issues that I had for decade and a half.
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Yes, bounced around to a lot of different specialists, you know, eventually diagnosed
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with the gut issues of IBS because that they couldn't figure out anything else that was
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wrong necessarily.
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They just said, oh, maybe go gluten free and maybe take a probiotic that might work.
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An obvious is a label that they give you that tells you what you just told them you have.
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My bowels kinda irritable.
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Hey.
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You have irritable bowel syndrome.
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I just told you that.
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What do you what do you mean?
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Right?
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To me, that's like Mhmm.
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It's like the most bogus kinda diagnosed.
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It's the garbage diagnosis.
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Yeah.
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Anytime they put syndrome on the end of something, that means they know what it is.
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Yeah.
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No clue.
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Yeah.
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No clue.
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They'll just put the first couple words like, these play into it and then syndrome.
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Ta da.
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So that's basically what it was.
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They kind of ruled out super scary stuff, like IBD, which is irritable bowel disease,
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ulcerative colitis, chromes, they ruled out some of those scarier things test me for celiac
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disease, which is the autoimmune, gluten allergy.
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So, you know, we ruled out those sorts of things, but I still was having a lot of issues.
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And so knowing what I know now, that was part of the pathogenesis of, my autoimmune
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condition.
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And so with the in inflammation within my guts, that set up the foundation for leaky gut or
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increase intestinal permeability, if you wanna find it in the the, medical literature.
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That's what they call it now.
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So what that does is that actually opens up the tight junctions of the gut lining.
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Yeah.
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And so whenever I would eat inflammatory foods, we'll use gluten as an example for this.
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Make it the villain, but, it does play a role that gluten protein isn't supposed to be in my
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systemic circulation.
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And so it was able to pass through those larger openings and my gut lining.
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And then my body recognized that as foreign as
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an as an enemy.
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And so it built up this immune army to attack those gluten proteins.
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Now the problem is gluten protein is very similar in amino acid sequence to thyroid
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tissue.
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Yep.
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And so that's what I just did.
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Every time I consumed gluten, I built up an army and attacked my own thyroid.
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So I did that for Who knows how long?
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There's research out that autoimmune and other chronic diseases have a 10, 12, 15 year you
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know, timeline that they're building in your body.
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These don't happen overnight.
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And so that's a big piece of my own health journey is, 1, trying my best to avoid gluten
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as much as possible, because it's literally in everything.
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And, even gluten free products are cross contaminated in the agriculture process, the
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way we farm in this country, genetic modifications, And then the manufacturing
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process, there's a lot of cross containment.
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Yeah.
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I can't even say the word today.
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Cross contamination there to the point where testing was done on the top selling gluten free
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items, and I'm using quotes again.
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The pizza crust, pasta, and bread, and over 50% actually contain gluten.
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And they're supposed to be gluten free.
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They're supposed to be a 100% gluten free.
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And they're at least 50% or over 50% have gluten in them.
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So that's terrifying for someone who has a celiac, allergy because that could be, you
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know, very, very detrimental to their
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health.
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But then it's it's not good for someone who has, you know, an autoimmune condition.
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Especially one where gluten is triggering those reactions inside your body.
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And so healing leaky gut, avoiding gluten, making sure my thigh it's getting the nutrients
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that it needs as well, all super important in my my own personal healing journey.
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Yeah.
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And and honestly, my take on disease is a especially like these chronic disease or these
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long, like, pathogenic disease that take time to build up is, like, think of your body like a
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bucket And the buckets filling up with water and, you know, a little bit of gluten in there
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starts to raise that bucket up and then some toxins from the environment, right, chlorine in
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our tap water, lack of sleep stress, burning it at both ends.
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Your bucket starts to fill up when the bucket overflows.
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Right?
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And you might feel okay
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when
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the bucket overflows, signs symptoms, disease state.
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Right?
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Yes.
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And
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so it's like, we talk a lot about, like, preventative health, obviously, you as well.
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Like, how do we empty the bucket a little bit?
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Right?
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And that's where it's like the diet removing the gluten.
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Right?
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That bucket starts to lower back down.
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You can get back.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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And I have a lot of people that are like, well, I used to be able to do all these things, and
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that goes back to the buck analogy.
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Well, yeah, you used to be able to because your bucket was half full then.
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Yeah.
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And now it's overflowing.
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So we need to do some work there.
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I also find that most people don't have the symptoms until their body is less than 60% of
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optimal function.
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I know we all like to work in in the realm of optimal, optimal function.
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And so even though we if we don't have an over symptom, that doesn't mean we're performing at
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90% or 95% of optimal function.
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That means we might be teetering right on that 61%.
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So that's where prevention and doing doing the things every day to really optimize your health
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is super, super important.
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100%.
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And so then what's, like, what's the in the protocol and and your practice testing, you
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know, herbal supplements, I'm guessing, right, like healing repair the gut.
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Can you give, like, a little overview or kind of like, your process?
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Absolutely.
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So I look each individual as unique because everyone is is definitely very, very unique.
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And so I do a deep dive into, you know, specific health history, the factors that
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brought you to where you are today.
00:16:17
I looked to see where, you know, different places in your your health journey you might
00:16:21
have gone off track.
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Because it's not a straight, a to b line ever.
00:16:26
We're always, you know, taking little, ebbs flows.
00:16:30
We look at those because those are gonna give me some information because, again, you might
00:16:34
not have outward symptoms, of different imbalances there may be some there just from
00:16:39
your own health journey.
00:16:40
So I wanna look at those.
00:16:41
You know, obviously, taking the time to really talk with the patient and and understand their
00:16:46
experiences.
00:16:47
I have them fill out very, very detailed paperwork, to get a better understanding of
00:16:53
them.
00:16:53
And then we look at different diagnostic testing.
00:16:56
So I have, you know, the the availability to test just about everything, which is fastic,
00:17:02
but I try to really laser focus it into, you know, the main issues that I feel are affecting
00:17:08
that patient's health today.
00:17:10
And, of course, things that are gonna be, if we don't address them or identify them issues for
00:17:14
the long term.
00:17:15
Right.
00:17:15
And so then we use lifestyle nutrition, big focus, this, you know, potent nutraceuticals to
00:17:22
help to remove, you know, infections and imbalances and address deficiencies to help to
00:17:25
bring the body back into
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months.
00:17:30
Yeah.
00:17:30
And so what's the what would be, like, the main 2 tests you say you run?
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I mean, you do stool tests.
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Stool test is probably the one of the biggest ones because, you know, it's a poker says all
00:17:38
disease begins in the gut, I believe that your health begins in your gut.
00:17:41
So that's a big focus that I wanna make sure that we are, optimizing right off the bat.
00:17:46
Because if we have imbalances there, literally nothing else we do is gonna matter.
00:17:50
Because if we're using, you know, nutrition, which is my long term goal with everybody, then
00:17:55
if you have imbalances, you don't have hydrochloric acid or stomach acid.
00:17:58
You don't have enough digestive enzymes.
00:18:00
You have inflammation.
00:18:00
You have dysbiosis, infections.
00:18:03
Then you're not gonna be able to properly process and absorb all the new nutrients that
00:18:07
you need to be able to rebuild your body.
00:18:09
And so that's a big step.
00:18:10
And then just blood work as well.
00:18:12
I mentioned the basic panels can give us some information, but they often don't give enough.
00:18:16
So I do a really detailed, again, customized panel on on every one of my patients.
00:18:20
Yeah.
00:18:20
We're big on put biomarkers, right?
00:18:22
Like,
00:18:23
knowing, like, your individual biomarkers versus just like your your blood work, your
00:18:27
CBCs.
00:18:27
Right?
00:18:28
That Exactly.
00:18:28
Little bit's important, but
00:18:30
It's important.
00:18:30
I don't think that people get those tested enough in reality.
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I think a lot of people will come to me and be like, oh, I haven't gone to a doctor in 20
00:18:36
years.
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And I'm like, okay.
00:18:37
Well, so we're starting from scratch.
00:18:39
But yeah.
00:18:40
Here we go.
00:18:40
Step 1.
00:18:41
We have a little bit of work to do.
00:18:42
I think it's important to understand, you know, your own body and where you are where and where
00:18:47
you're starting from and in correlation to how you're feeling and what symptoms you're having
00:18:52
as well so that we can we know where to, to take effect and where we need to prioritize our
00:18:58
energy.
00:18:59
That's awesome.
00:19:00
What, walk us through then, because you're probably walking us through a little bit of
00:19:03
this right now, but this is a getting method.
00:19:05
So you have actually a method that you operate.
00:19:07
Clarify it for me too.
00:19:09
I always try to look at people, not as like robots, but, like, there's very small
00:19:14
differentiations of, like, who we are.
00:19:16
Right?
00:19:16
We have our personalities, which I think are impacted obviously by, like, these major
00:19:20
lifestyle changes, but there's a lot of redundancies in humans that we see.
00:19:26
So maybe that's why you put together, like, kind of a method together because our habit
00:19:31
structures typically align, that way.
00:19:33
If you could just dive deep into a little bit of, you know, what what you have programmed
00:19:38
into that method.
00:19:39
Yes.
00:19:39
Absolutely.
00:19:40
So I find that when someone commits to something, they have a much better outcome.
00:19:45
So the Segetti method is actually my membership, program.
00:19:50
And so when that method, I cover the 12 foundations of health.
00:19:54
And so that's gonna include kind of like you alluded to, all the different areas that we
00:19:59
each need to make sure we're fully optimizing in our own health, whether or not that might be
00:20:05
an overt, you know, issue for you that drew you to my office, we're still gonna work on it.
00:20:10
And so the first one right off the bat is mindset.
00:20:13
So if we don't have our mind right, then nothing matters.
00:20:17
You know, a deep dive into your why.
00:20:19
Like, why do you wanna be healthier?
00:20:21
Why are you going on this journey?
00:20:23
Like, what does it mean for you?
00:20:24
What's your ideal outcome?
00:20:26
And then again, we dive into all the other pieces.
00:20:28
Sleep is a big one.
00:20:29
So we talk about hygiene.
00:20:30
And that's starting from the moment you wake up, and it goes all the way till the moment you
00:20:35
go to sleep.
00:20:35
All the things you can do, to optimize your sleep throughout that time frame, because I
00:20:40
don't know about you, but if my I don't get a good night's sleep, you don't even wanna talk
00:20:43
to me the next day.
00:20:44
Like, I'm a monster.
00:20:45
Oh, wow.
00:20:45
Yeah.
00:20:47
Thank Exactly.
00:20:48
Yes.
00:20:49
Sleep sleep is just that I I one thing I just have loved really about sleep is that people
00:20:56
exactly what you were tapping into there is that people don't understand that, like,
00:21:00
throughout the entire day, you're actually prepping for sleep.
00:21:04
Like, your body is prepping itself first.
00:21:06
First thing in the morning.
00:21:07
As soon as your eyes wake
00:21:08
up, your
00:21:08
eyes open.
00:21:09
Yeah.
00:21:09
So really you know, I feel like I didn't have really a mind body connection, until I started
00:21:16
prioritizing sleep and being like, okay, my my body is actually telling me something, and I
00:21:22
have to listen to it.
00:21:24
And so then, okay.
00:21:25
Well, then then I got like, super nerdy, just diving into, like, what my circadian rhythm,
00:21:30
like, okay, these Delta waves are happening.
00:21:33
Mhmm.
00:21:33
My body heat and core indexes changing and fluctuating throughout the night.
00:21:38
Like, how do I need to understand that to get the proper amount of REM to then develop like,
00:21:44
more tangible focus and I become more optimal during the day.
00:21:48
Like, I don't like, this is what I also found.
00:21:51
Like, I don't need to work nearly as hard if I become optimal in my flow states.
00:21:57
Mhmm.
00:21:57
And really understand my, Altradian rhythms of like, okay.
00:22:01
Like, I can break now.
00:22:02
Like, it's cool to break now because my body, I prepped it for that flow state and to get
00:22:07
through that.
00:22:07
But It, that's been a that's been a crucial piece in our in our optimizers program that we
00:22:14
have geared towards, obviously, men is really understanding that that sleep narrative of,
00:22:19
like, how we can become more optimal through that process.
00:22:21
So I love that you focus on that.
00:22:23
And, I
00:22:23
mean, being optimal is, like, do getting the most accomplished than being the most efficient
00:22:27
for the least amount of ex, like, expended energy.
00:22:30
Right?
00:22:30
And that's,
00:22:31
like, what we focus on is, like, how do we get better results with less?
00:22:33
And that's what we do with guys.
00:22:34
Like, we we're like, dude, you're doing way too much.
00:22:36
You
00:22:36
thought you had to do all this stuff.
00:22:38
You're you're killing yourself.
00:22:39
Right?
00:22:39
You're because it we're all day, we're in a state of capitalism.
00:22:42
Our body's like like breaking down to rebuild.
00:22:44
Mhmm.
00:22:44
But
00:22:44
if you're not sleeping, you're not rebuilding.
00:22:46
Right?
00:22:46
So then you're just breaking down even more.
00:22:48
Right?
00:22:48
And that's
00:22:49
And that's that was a badge of honor that was, you know, really pushed on me in the military
00:22:54
and America.
00:22:55
Sleep when you're
00:22:56
Is exactly.
00:22:57
How much can you do on the least amount of sleep?
00:23:00
And who can send the first email in the morning?
00:23:02
And who can send the last email at night?
00:23:03
Like, it was competition of how bad can you basically tear your body down and how
00:23:09
productive can you still be at the end of the day?
00:23:11
Like, it it's just such a bizarre mindset to look back on that.
00:23:13
So I'm I'm I think it's awesome that you really focus on the opportunity and the permission to
00:23:19
give yourself a break.
00:23:20
And to really focus on the things that are gonna rebuild and nourish your body so that you
00:23:25
can perform at the highest level.
00:23:27
Because I feel like it doesn't matter how much money you have, If you don't have your health,
00:23:32
you are basically poor.
00:23:33
Like, it just it doesn't matter.
00:23:35
We had a guy in one of our men's group.
00:23:38
Say he's at he actually does.
00:23:39
Have you ever heard of PMF therapy?
00:23:42
Mm-mm.
00:23:42
Wild stuff.
00:23:43
So it's a an electronic.
00:23:44
It's more like the tens machine.
00:23:46
Okay.
00:23:46
But it's, it basically combines, like, the tens with massaging.
00:23:50
So I had body work done yesterday.
00:23:52
It's it's pretty incredible.
00:23:53
We'll have to introduce you to Jake.
00:23:55
He's a good guy.
00:23:56
But it's, he said this, and it's, like, really stuck home.
00:24:01
The best ability is availability.
00:24:04
If I'm not if I'm if I'm not available, like, in so many people and I had to go like, I still
00:24:09
go through this and ebbs and flows, but, like, some days, I like I'm not available.
00:24:13
And if I don't get that proper sleep, I'm owning in a sleep, I feel like right now, but
00:24:17
I'm not gonna be available for my wife.
00:24:19
I'm not gonna be available for my kids.
00:24:21
Exactly.
00:24:22
Which, like, if I get to the end of my life and I wasn't available for them, what good was it,
00:24:25
right, at the end of the day.
00:24:27
So I think that's crucial.
00:24:28
Can you, you're an author now too.
00:24:31
Like, you're how do you fit it up?
00:24:33
Like, how do you fit it all in?
00:24:35
That's just serious.
00:24:37
So you are an author.
00:24:39
Can you tell us a little bit about your book?
00:24:40
I've heard of the book, and I am absolutely gonna be reading it.
00:24:44
But I would love for you to just kinda brief it, and then we're gonna deploy it to the
00:24:47
audience, but it's right in front of us.
00:24:49
Awesome.
00:24:49
Yeah.
00:24:49
So this book is actually a three part.
00:24:52
So one part I elaborate more on my own health struggles, because as I was going through my
00:24:58
journey, I realized that we all have a health journey.
00:25:02
And as I mentioned during mine, I felt hopeless and helpless at certain points.
00:25:06
And so I wanted to share what I went through to hopefully provide some hope to someone who's
00:25:11
also struggling because I know a lot of people are.
00:25:14
The second part is a lot of education around the quality of nutrition.
00:25:18
And the importance of that in our own health.
00:25:20
And so that's, as I mentioned, with even just the healthy fat piece, I do dive into healthy
00:25:24
fats.
00:25:25
But also elaborate on the best types of meat to eat, the best types of, produce and just the
00:25:30
things to avoid, the things to eat.
00:25:32
So I definitely dive deep into into those.
00:25:35
And then I really want to reinvigorate that that passion and and the understanding of the
00:25:41
fact that if we prepare and make our own food that we're consuming, that whole process dives
00:25:49
into our health.
00:25:50
The act of preparing our own food that preps our digestive process.
00:25:54
100%.
00:25:55
And that is so missed in this country.
00:25:57
Purchasing food from DoorDash or, you know, I don't wanna badmouth different companies.
00:26:02
But, if we hand over our food preparation to someone else, we're handing over control of our
00:26:07
health to someone else because They're a business.
00:26:10
So, unfortunately, most businesses aren't gonna use the highest quality ingredients.
00:26:14
So they're gonna use the cheaper oils that are to
00:26:16
our body.
00:26:17
By lowering those.
00:26:18
Exactly.
00:26:18
They're gonna add sugar because so that it's addictive so that you buy more.
00:26:21
So the and all these things are detrimental to your health.
00:26:24
So I put in about a 100 of my favorite delicious, easy to make recipes that have
00:26:28
ingredients that anybody can find.
00:26:30
I've made them in, you know, all different studio kitchens around on the Tampa Bay area
00:26:33
for different TV shows just to show that these foods are so easy to make and accessible and
00:26:38
they're delicious, and they have enormous impacts on our on our health.
00:26:42
And so this is actually my COVID baby when the world shut down.
00:26:46
I wrote a book.
00:26:47
I had the idea when we were in school, and then you know, when everything kinda shut down, it
00:26:51
just really gave me the time and space to to process it.
00:26:55
And, I'll be fully transparent.
00:26:56
The first draft I I wrote was garbage.
00:26:59
My publisher basically threw it back at me and told me to rewrite it because I wrote a, like,
00:27:04
a standard operating procedure.
00:27:05
I'm very military minded.
00:27:06
And I was like, do this.
00:27:07
Do that?
00:27:07
And they were like, no, we need story.
00:27:09
We need Stories.
00:27:10
Yeah.
00:27:11
With it as well.
00:27:12
I found that, I mean, in just being in career and meeting other docs and stuff, the best docs
00:27:18
who get people the healthiest or get people the best results are the ones who had some kind of
00:27:22
struggle in their story is where they're coming from.
00:27:24
Right?
00:27:24
They have that empathetic, like, heart for them.
00:27:27
Right?
00:27:27
Like, anyone can, like, learn something and then teach it to people and just push it on
00:27:31
others.
00:27:32
It's like when you feel like your doctor's like, I've been there.
00:27:34
Right?
00:27:34
When patients come in here with, like, excruciating nerve pain, I'm like, I had that,
00:27:37
man.
00:27:38
Like, my shoulder was freaking jacked.
00:27:39
And I had the worst pain you can imagine.
00:27:42
So I get it.
00:27:42
I get what pain feels like.
00:27:44
Yeah.
00:27:44
And so it's like, then they're like, hey, he he's he's here with me, right, versus like he's
00:27:49
gonna me what to do.
00:27:50
Exactly.
00:27:50
Yes.
00:27:50
The empathy piece, I think, is is again lacking in this country.
00:27:54
And to be able to to say that I've walked a few steps in your shoes, and I've been there, and I
00:27:59
get it, is is a huge difference, between me and a lot of the other doctors that are out there
00:28:04
And then I was a patient too.
00:28:06
I was a patient for a decade and a half.
00:28:08
So I went through all the
00:28:09
You saw what didn't work?
00:28:10
The BS that they're going through right now and that they're pulling their hair out and they're
00:28:13
so frustrated with.
00:28:14
Like, I get it.
00:28:15
That's why that's why I'm doing what I do.
00:28:16
And so okay.
00:28:17
So the recipes, is it mostly?
00:28:19
Because I'm it like, it's propped open right here, and I could see this one, power, Kava,
00:28:23
cave.
00:28:23
Cave.
00:28:23
That's fun
00:28:24
to hear.
00:28:25
Coffee drink or something.
00:28:26
That's coffee.
00:28:26
That's how I make my coffee.
00:28:28
I'm gonna have to do that.
00:28:29
Big coffee guy.
00:28:30
It's awesome.
00:28:30
I love coffee.
00:28:31
So coffee is one of the, highest pesticide content.
00:28:35
It's not
00:28:35
the same moldy.
00:28:36
Yeah.
00:28:36
Moldy.
00:28:37
So you the sourcing, like, right off the bat, first thing in the morning that most people
00:28:41
drink is coffee or some sort of caffeinated beverage, you wanna, again, make sure that's
00:28:45
the highest quality.
00:28:46
So I full full confession.
00:28:48
Sometimes I'll I'll not have breakfast for a period of time, and we can talk talk about
00:28:52
intermittent fasting and all those fun things too.
00:28:54
But Sometimes I'm just not hungry in the morning, but I wanna have my coffee, and I
00:28:58
wanna make sure that everything I'm consuming is of the highest quality So I put in, very
00:29:03
high quality grass fed whey collagen into, not whey collagen, grass fed collagen, into my
00:29:07
coffee.
00:29:07
I put, sun fiber.
00:29:11
So get 6 grams of, fiber in my coffee.
00:29:13
And then I alternate between either a grass fed butter or a, a plant based butter, but I use
00:29:20
that term very loosely because there's a lot of bad marketing around plant based.
00:29:24
This particular brand is a, organic cashew and co oil.
00:29:29
And so it's it's again, highest quality.
00:29:31
And it gives
00:29:32
It's a brand.
00:29:32
It's called I'm gonna pronounce it wrong.
00:29:36
Cool.
00:29:36
You can get it at, and you can get it at Sprouts.
00:29:38
Big butter guy, man.
00:29:39
I'll I think butter's a health food.
00:29:41
Oh, I I love butter, but sometimes I feel like I'm eating little bit too much animal products,
00:29:45
so I like to do, like, a fluctuation thing.
00:29:47
So, like, I'll do a month or 2 this month or 2 of that and kind of go back and forth between
00:29:51
it to make sure I'm still getting all the nutrients.
00:29:53
But,
00:29:54
And that's a good point to, like, being intuitive.
00:29:56
Right?
00:29:56
So, like, what you just said is basically the term is intuitive fasting.
00:29:59
You woke up.
00:29:59
You're like, I'm really hungry.
00:30:00
I don't have to force myself to eat today.
00:30:02
Or, like, days where you're like, man, I'm hungry.
00:30:03
I probably should eat or days where you're like, I probably should have some more carbs
00:30:06
today.
00:30:06
I kinda killed it yesterday.
00:30:08
Or, like, maybe I should be more protein today.
00:30:09
I worked out hard.
00:30:10
Right?
00:30:10
And so, being able to be present and so intuitive to your body that you can sense what
00:30:15
it needs.
00:30:15
Right?
00:30:16
Most people are like, why am I thirsty all the time?
00:30:18
Frickety hydrated.
00:30:19
Like like, listen.
00:30:20
Nope.
00:30:20
5% Americans.
00:30:21
Yeah.
00:30:22
And I know that the majority of your audience is, is men, but when you talk about fasting, I
00:30:28
do wanna touch on that there's a lot of research out now that women shouldn't fast the
00:30:33
same as men.
00:30:34
And so Okay.
00:30:35
Let's go.
00:30:36
Yeah.
00:30:36
I don't I don't wanna dive too too deep into it, but, just to touch on the fact that you're
00:30:40
mentioning, like, different carbs at different times, different fats at different times, So
00:30:43
primarily in the for women who are cycling in the 2nd phase of their cycle, the luteal phase,
00:30:49
they really shouldn't be doing any the fasting.
00:30:52
That's when the body is building up hormones.
00:30:54
If you do a significant fast during that period of time, you're gonna tank your hormones.
00:30:58
Yeah.
00:30:58
Or, like, or, like, busy moms.
00:30:59
They got 3 kids that take them to school.
00:31:01
They're then they're working and all this.
00:31:03
And then they're fasting.
00:31:04
Let's just add another stress to our body.
00:31:06
Right?
00:31:06
Fasting is a positive stress.
00:31:07
But Maybe in that time of life, it's not
00:31:10
the best
00:31:10
for it.
00:31:10
We need to optimize elsewhere.
00:31:11
And I actually, the majority of my female patients aren't eating enough.
00:31:16
Yeah.
00:31:17
So they need more healthy fats.
00:31:19
Yeah.
00:31:19
They need more healthy fats.
00:31:20
They need more high quality protein.
00:31:21
They don't need less.
00:31:22
And so that's why, again, I'm starting my day with high quality protein, with healthy fats.
00:31:27
I actually throw a little bit of pink Himalayan sea salt in there to make sure I have my
00:31:30
electrolytes going.
00:31:31
And, again, I'll I'll pulse in and out, different types of organic mushroom powders as
00:31:36
well, different blends and mushrooms to see for adaptogenic health too.
00:31:39
And what you're doing a lot of, right, and, like, kinda on the intro I said is, like,
00:31:42
you're you're flipping the narrative to what it should be versus, like, what we've been told.
00:31:46
And it's like, why is science always changing?
00:31:48
You know, it should be.
00:31:49
It should be evolving.
00:31:50
But you gotta listen to who's pushing it.
00:31:52
The government says, fats bad.
00:31:54
Cart, you know, salt is bad.
00:31:55
Like, all this stuff, it's like, is it?
00:31:57
Right?
00:31:57
We're starting to find that like you need sodium.
00:31:59
Right?
00:31:59
You're buy where sodium goes water flows, right, or that analogy.
00:32:02
And so it's like, to be hydrated, you do need those electrolytes.
00:32:06
Fats not bad.
00:32:06
Fat's what our brain is made out of.
00:32:08
So if you want a functioning brain, you should have some fat in your in your diet.
00:32:10
And if
00:32:10
you're exhausted, you need some fat.
00:32:12
That's right.
00:32:12
If
00:32:13
you're if you're going bodies.
00:32:14
100%.
00:32:15
So, yes, follow where are the sources and follow the money.
00:32:18
Who's paying
00:32:19
for the research?
00:32:20
What's the, yeah, what's the agenda?
00:32:21
It's so sad if people are like, oh, there's a study find it.
00:32:24
That's great.
00:32:24
Who paid for the study?
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00:32:51
That's I call those the, like, the study Nazis people that are just like, so trust of science.
00:32:53
It's all about the science.
00:32:53
I'm like, dude, like, a lot of studies can be, like, skewed to fit the result they're trying
00:33:01
to get.
00:33:01
If you really look into the study, you're like, man, they pick these people from a specific
00:33:04
area Like, I know you're big on the blue zones, and I am too.
00:33:07
I agree with it, but they they cherry picked a lot of the data for, like, certain populations
00:33:11
in certain places.
00:33:12
Right?
00:33:13
And only use these people.
00:33:15
Whatever.
00:33:15
I'm not gonna go too deep on that.
00:33:16
But, again, to your point, it's like, do your own research, be your own health advocate,
00:33:20
which is what you did and what you do.
00:33:22
Yeah.
00:33:23
Absolutely.
00:33:23
And then figure out where your specific imbalances are.
00:33:26
So that's why I do the very customized diagnostic testing because you're gonna have a
00:33:30
completely different if we go for, like, that, for example, that microbiota, then then Doctor.
00:33:35
Lessey, totally different.
00:33:37
Even though you guys work together and around each other, totally different.
00:33:39
If you travel internationally, it's gonna be different.
00:33:41
If you have a pet, it's gonna be different.
00:33:42
If you have a spouse or a partner, it's gonna be totally different.
00:33:44
If you have kids, it's gonna be different.
00:33:46
My identical twin sons probably have different gut microbiology.
00:33:48
And their genetics are the identical
00:33:50
that came
00:33:50
from the same DNA.
00:33:51
Right?
00:33:51
So, like, that goes to show you.
00:33:53
There's studies on that too.
00:33:54
Mhmm.
00:33:54
2 twins.
00:33:54
1 lives this kind of lifestyle.
00:33:55
1 lives the other way.
00:33:56
They're identical twins.
00:33:58
Guts are totally different.
00:33:59
One becomes obese and inflamed.
00:34:00
The other is a healthy person.
00:34:02
It's crazy.
00:34:02
Yep.
00:34:03
That's where genetics used to be scientifically, and we're using lots of air
00:34:07
quotes today, was was a crutch that people would use.
00:34:10
There's so undenetically predisposition
00:34:12
Freaking hate that.
00:34:13
For this.
00:34:14
Yeah.
00:34:14
And then that study really, really blew that apart and said, no.
00:34:18
You have control over so many different aspects of your health.
00:34:22
That you can, you know, impact every single day.
00:34:25
So that's empowering.
00:34:26
Yeah.
00:34:27
So empowering.
00:34:27
That's powerful.
00:34:28
One thing that I think I've, like, really noticed to myself of having the, mind body
00:34:33
connection was the my actually, my nutrients, like, during the day, of the days that I
00:34:40
actually have, like, a workout.
00:34:41
So we worked out this morning.
00:34:44
But I also knew I had a podcast.
00:34:46
Right?
00:34:46
And so I wanted to stay light.
00:34:49
So I'm gonna actually my my I'm gonna load up on protein a little bit later in the day.
00:34:54
And there was this, like, myth for a long time.
00:34:56
I think it actually, you know, the show, the biggest loser, I think it was this, that
00:35:01
Julian, the trainer, whatever.
00:35:03
It was her name, Julie.
00:35:04
I don't know if that was her name, but anyways.
00:35:06
It's something like that.
00:35:07
She came out with something that you had to get protein in you 45 minutes after your workout.
00:35:11
Like, she said that.
00:35:12
That's how they that's they do that was to sell protein powder.
00:35:15
That was, like,
00:35:16
to sell.
00:35:16
Oh, you gotta get protein right after your workout.
00:35:18
Yeah.
00:35:18
Great for free.
00:35:19
Everyone working out.
00:35:20
Now it's gonna protein.
00:35:21
Yeah.
00:35:21
Fantastic marketing.
00:35:22
That's the only way to do it is.
00:35:24
Yeah.
00:35:24
That's why you're chicken breast
00:35:25
is sitting right there.
00:35:26
You're not gonna get any gains if you don't.
00:35:27
Right?
00:35:27
Yeah.
00:35:27
If you don't, you need a 45 within 5 minutes of your workout.
00:35:30
But, I mean, the reality is that's not true.
00:35:33
Your body can utilize it whenever, wherever.
00:35:37
And I for my understanding, and I think it's something that you educated me on was, it's in
00:35:42
the cadence of a really a week that you could measure what your total protein.
00:35:46
I do it daily, but what your protein intake is by the week.
00:35:50
Is that right?
00:35:50
It tends to be easier because then you're dividing by 7, like, over a week.
00:35:53
But Yeah.
00:35:54
It it's there's, like, I think back and forth research too, but they show that, like, by
00:35:59
getting, like, you can have a day that's less, right, maybe you're not as optimal on your
00:36:03
protein or your little under fed that day, but then the rest of the days are either optimal or
00:36:08
above.
00:36:08
Maybe it kinda averages out over the span of a week.
00:36:10
And so, you know, not beating yourself up if you're like, man, I didn't hit my goal today.
00:36:14
Right?
00:36:14
Kind of what we're talking about with our guys in our in our cohort with optimizers.
00:36:17
Like, guy was like, I didn't get my protein goal in today, but yesterday, I overdid it.
00:36:21
I'm like, it's cool, man.
00:36:22
You're gonna be okay.
00:36:23
Yeah.
00:36:23
You're not cool.
00:36:24
Into, like, the perfectionist mindset.
00:36:26
Yeah.
00:36:26
And that's a really good thing to say, let's do progress.
00:36:29
Let's not go for perfection because that's another stressor.
00:36:32
That's right.
00:36:32
Yeah.
00:36:33
First, and you're overwhelmed and you quit.
00:36:34
Right?
00:36:35
Exactly.
00:36:36
I I wanna talk about this because it's something that I think is important, and I
00:36:40
think that you really build on in your book as well.
00:36:42
But It is that portion between men and women that, obviously, as we age, our protein intake
00:36:49
goes down from my understanding as far as where like data says.
00:36:52
Right?
00:36:52
But it should well.
00:36:53
And it should go up, technically.
00:36:56
But at, like, for me, specifically, I wanted to make sure, you know, I was depleted in
00:37:01
glycative supply.
00:37:02
I actually had a couple of newts before the show so that I could be well optimized for you.
00:37:07
So Guys,
00:37:07
I would be fine.
00:37:09
We need to we need to hook you up.
00:37:11
We do that.
00:37:12
I have an I have an elk protein mac and cheese meal that I'm gonna be eating later in the day.
00:37:17
Mhmm.
00:37:17
But I knew that would, like, that that would just legitimately that would, like, slow me
00:37:20
down.
00:37:21
So I, like, I wanted to be, like, well optimized getting my protein intake.
00:37:24
Is that is that something, like, you you're really pushing on I know you focus on fats too,
00:37:32
but, like, that protein intake pushing kind of the protein.
00:37:35
That's what we're focusing on with our guys and and our optimize.
00:37:38
We wanna focus on fats and carbs.
00:37:40
Absolutely.
00:37:41
We wanna focus on those.
00:37:42
But proportionally, we want we have a we have a protein target for them.
00:37:46
Mhmm.
00:37:47
And then We really those days that they're obviously working out, I tend to focus a little
00:37:52
bit more on my carbohydrates because I wanna make sure, like, I'm maintaining my collective
00:37:56
size still pretty sharp.
00:37:58
And then I'll get my protein in.
00:38:00
On the days I, like, actually am not working out, which I've increased that a little bit.
00:38:06
I focus tend to focus on a little bit heavier meals, throughout the day.
00:38:10
But, can you talk a little bit just about protein specifically, and, like, how imperative
00:38:16
that is, kind of, for the long term and longevity?
00:38:19
I like to just take a step back, and I look like to just focus on foundational So that's
00:38:23
high quality protein, healthy fat, plant based fiber, and then something green or colorful.
00:38:28
So I try to keep it as simple as possible?
00:38:30
Cause I think people get super overwhelmed with my county, my macros.
00:38:34
Am I getting this?
00:38:34
Am I getting that?
00:38:35
So I try to keep it simple because I don't wanna add more stress.
00:38:37
You're talking, like, per meal.
00:38:38
You're, like, in the in the middle, hit the fork.
00:38:40
Like, Get those 4.
00:38:41
Got it.
00:38:42
Every time you eat, let's get those 4 in.
00:38:44
And then specifically to protein so if you're getting all four of those in every meal and
00:38:49
snack, Like, you're gonna cover the bases.
00:38:50
And I like the week kinda averaging it out, so you're not stressing yourself every single day.
00:38:54
Like, oh, I missed my mark.
00:38:55
I missed my mark.
00:38:57
But specifically to protein, I I think the quality is where we need to go.
00:39:01
So highest quality.
00:39:03
What is that?
00:39:03
That's grass fed red meat, including organs.
00:39:06
I am a fan of eating organs.
00:39:07
Liver baby.
00:39:08
The sculpture.
00:39:08
Liver.
00:39:09
Yes.
00:39:09
Hi.
00:39:10
It's,
00:39:10
Yes.
00:39:11
Yes.
00:39:11
Yes.
00:39:11
Nutrient bioavailable.
00:39:12
It's not valid
00:39:13
for me.
00:39:13
I I don't.
00:39:14
But Discussions with us with one of our is in school with a
00:39:18
tree tree.
00:39:19
Yeah.
00:39:19
Yeah.
00:39:19
He was
00:39:20
like he was like, it's a filtered.
00:39:21
Filters all the toxins.
00:39:22
Why would you wanna
00:39:22
eat that?
00:39:23
I'm like, I don't know, really.
00:39:25
Yeah.
00:39:25
Yeah.
00:39:26
So if you don't wanna eat it, there's there's, you know, obviously, some high quality capsule
00:39:30
forms.
00:39:31
You can get it in as well.
00:39:33
But for that so that's for red meat.
00:39:35
And then any type of poultry eggs organic.
00:39:39
There's a lot of, you know, marketing around, free range.
00:39:43
I just wanna touch on what that means really quickly.
00:39:45
So my husband and I travel a lot in the US and Internationally as well.
00:39:48
We have an air stream here, and we stay on farms and different things.
00:39:52
And I've talked with farmers, and they've showed me the facilities of their free range
00:39:56
chickens.
00:39:56
And it literally, if they have this tiny little space where they could put their little leg
00:40:00
out, That means free range.
00:40:01
If the chicken's not in a box, it's free range, essentially.
00:40:03
Well, there's cage free.
00:40:05
Okay.
00:40:05
And then there's free range.
00:40:06
So cage free means they're not in the they, you know, the individual little They can
00:40:09
actually move their body.
00:40:10
They can actually move their body, but it doesn't mean that they're, you know, we have I
00:40:13
have this image of chickens running in a field and, you know, happy chickens at the sunshine.
00:40:17
Right?
00:40:18
Pastures.
00:40:18
That would be pasture raised.
00:40:19
So organic pasture raised would be the highest.
00:40:21
Pinnacle.
00:40:22
Yep.
00:40:22
And those yolks are freaking orange.
00:40:24
Oh, they are.
00:40:24
You get an organic pasture raised because they're eating worms or grubs.
00:40:27
Like, they're eating, like, real stuff.
00:40:28
Everything what they are made.
00:40:29
They're getting
00:40:30
a lot of omegas into there.
00:40:31
And so that that yolk, man.
00:40:32
Yeah.
00:40:32
So they're gonna be they're gonna be healthier, which means you consume is gonna be healthier.
00:40:36
Are you reading it raw?
00:40:37
Hey, raw.
00:40:38
3 raw eggs every morning.
00:40:39
Okay.
00:40:39
Alright.
00:40:39
Well
00:40:40
Sometimes a night too.
00:40:40
Alright.
00:40:41
Yeah.
00:40:42
That's why your beard orange juice.
00:40:43
That's right, baby.
00:40:44
Let's go.
00:40:47
And then for any type of seafood wild caught.
00:40:49
So we could dive into hours discussion on farm raise, seafood, just if it says farm raise,
00:40:55
just donate it.
00:40:56
It is not good for your health.
00:40:57
Those creatures are unfortunately fed diets that are natural to them.
00:41:00
The agriculture industry is the highest of of, prescription medications in this country.
00:41:06
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I heard something recently about fiber too, and I had a little hack with my protein.
00:41:54
So I put lion's mane on all of it.
00:41:56
I just saw, like, basically the mushrooms.
00:41:58
I think you've seen me do it.
00:42:00
I'll just put put it over top to just get that protein into or get the fiber intake.
00:42:05
My understanding on, like, fiber, like, we are significantly deficient from just a or at a
00:42:12
global scale of fiber.
00:42:13
Yes.
00:42:14
Fibers in our diet.
00:42:15
And, like, an adequate amount of fiber on a daily basis is 20 grams.
00:42:20
A sufficient is 60.
00:42:22
They Am
00:42:23
I wrong on that?
00:42:24
Well, the the recommendation is kind of in the middle of that.
00:42:26
So 30 to 40 grams.
00:42:28
So I think you're you're hitting each side of it.
00:42:30
You know, we alluded to the blue zones earlier, so I will touch on a little bit of that because
00:42:34
I do, follow what they're doing because they I feel like they have great nuggets to share.
00:42:38
Yeah.
00:42:38
And what they've studied is the longest, living communities that are living optimal life or
00:42:44
health and not just lifespan, which is super important.
00:42:48
Critical.
00:42:48
Critical.
00:42:50
Is the fact that they're consuming 60, 70, 80 grams of plant based fiber a day, which is just
00:42:55
mind blowing.
00:42:56
That's a lot of fiber.
00:42:57
And
00:42:57
that fills you up too.
00:42:58
Right?
00:42:58
So that keeps you satiated.
00:42:59
You're not gonna snack and binge.
00:43:01
And actually, a higher fiber plant based fiber diet addresses 4 of the top 10 killers in the
00:43:08
US.
00:43:08
That's metabolic diseases, stroke, heart, disease and cancer risk.
00:43:13
All, you know, majorly decreased when you are consuming enough plant based fiber.
00:43:18
Now, cautionary, don't run out and grab a tub of metamucil because that's not gonna do the
00:43:22
job.
00:43:22
Processed.
00:43:22
Yeah.
00:43:23
Now it's highly processed.
00:43:24
We're talking about plants.
00:43:25
We're talking about legumes.
00:43:27
One of my favorites is chickpeas.
00:43:29
So a cup of chickpeas, that's, you know, 12, 15 grams of of plant based fiber right off the
00:43:33
bat.
00:43:33
And that's protein too.
00:43:34
And and plant based protein.
00:43:36
It's amazing.
00:43:36
I actually will dump some into, the blender first, but I make a smoothie because it doesn't
00:43:41
add any taste to it.
00:43:41
Nice.
00:43:42
And it gives them a little bit more, like, thickens it up a little bit and you get the
00:43:45
plant based fiber and protein right there right off the bat.
00:43:47
I'm gonna do that.
00:43:48
It's I've never heard of that before.
00:43:49
You're welcome.
00:43:50
Here we go.
00:43:51
Yeah.
00:43:51
I'm gonna learn something new today.
00:43:53
And I
00:43:53
think a lot of the the summary of a lot of what we're talking about is like optimal versus,
00:43:57
like, adequate.
00:43:58
You said the word adequate.
00:44:00
You go to your doctor, like, let's circle back to the beginning when you told your story.
00:44:04
Right?
00:44:04
Oh, you're good.
00:44:05
Yeah.
00:44:06
I feel a lousy.
00:44:07
Well, you know, if the range is a 100 is is 20 at the bottom and a 100 at the top and you're
00:44:12
at 21.
00:44:13
You're within range.
00:44:14
You're adequate, baby.
00:44:14
You're good.
00:44:16
Dude, you're one away from being freaking out range.
00:44:18
Right?
00:44:18
So, like, that's functional medicine is like, no, we wanna get that to the top of the top,
00:44:22
baby.
00:44:22
And that's hormones.
00:44:23
That's, you know, all markers.
00:44:25
Right?
00:44:25
We don't wanna see existing.
00:44:26
Totally different because the lab ranges were defined based on a sick population, because
00:44:31
that's who was in the hospital.
00:44:32
And they changed them.
00:44:33
And they changed them.
00:44:34
As we get sicker as a population, they're like, well, let's just lower the standard so that
00:44:38
people can, you know, fit in it still, or else we have to address the fact that everyone's
00:44:41
dying and sick.
00:44:42
Right?
00:44:42
And we can medicate them sooner.
00:44:45
That's what I've been, that's what I asked.
00:44:47
I've I've actually asked this quite often lately was I'm like point blank and I'm like, I
00:44:51
don't mean to be, like, just extremely forward with you, but since when do you wanna be
00:44:56
average?
00:44:56
Like, don't you wanna be, like, above average or optimal?
00:44:59
Like, said no one ever.
00:45:00
Like, hey.
00:45:01
You wanna do you wanna be average in life
00:45:03
I just wanna get by.
00:45:04
Said no one ever.
00:45:05
Like, so if you ask that question, they're like, well,
00:45:08
you actually think about it.
00:45:09
Actually didn't wanna be out.
00:45:10
You know what I mean?
00:45:11
I called out my dad the other day.
00:45:13
I'm like, I I really I poor dad, but, like, I'm like, look, back end of your life, I I love,
00:45:21
like, my parents immeasurably.
00:45:22
And that so I I say it in an act of love, but, again, I'm, like, pretty forward.
00:45:26
But I'm like, do you wanna finish or do you do you just wanna finish or do you wanna finish
00:45:30
well?
00:45:30
And so I think there's 2 separations there.
00:45:32
Like, if you're just looking to finish, like this retirement life sit down, eat a bag of
00:45:37
potato chips, and watch some Hallmark movies.
00:45:39
Like, I wouldn't call that finishing well, bro.
00:45:42
So I don't mean to call you out, dad, but I'm still calling you out.
00:45:44
Oh, I looked right at him.
00:45:45
And, dead.
00:45:48
Deadney eyes.
00:45:50
But the reality is that it's like, I no matter what age, I don't know when god's gonna call me
00:45:56
home, but I don't wanna be average.
00:45:58
Like and that's why we're diving into this field of, like, what does it mean to be
00:46:03
optimized?
00:46:04
And if it means putting a little more fiber in your diet, like, as a simple measure.
00:46:09
Like, if there's one action you can take today of, like, putting some chickpeas in a blender,
00:46:14
how hard is that?
00:46:15
Like, it's it's, you know, some really cool things that you can just take away that create
00:46:19
a different narrative for your life and how you finish it well.
00:46:22
So I don't know.
00:46:23
I mean, I I fully believe that we were meant to thrive.
00:46:26
Not just survive.
00:46:27
And I feel like a lot of people are just scraping by and surviving.
00:46:32
And there are simple things, like you mentioned, little hacks that we can do every
00:46:36
day to just move that needle a little bit and get us to that thriving so we can prosper.
00:46:41
So we can live a life we love.
00:46:43
I love that.
00:46:44
Well, what's, what's coming up for you?
00:46:46
Anything new in the works?
00:46:47
Another book or TV.
00:46:49
Anything?
00:46:50
T.
00:46:50
Yeah.
00:46:50
You've been all over TV and stuff.
00:46:52
I actually have another episode that, we just recorded last week an actual entire cooking
00:46:56
show, which I'm super excited about, which I've never done before.
00:46:59
So that was Wouldn't
00:47:00
that work.
00:47:00
That's on Fox 13.
00:47:02
Fox 13.
00:47:03
That's awesome.
00:47:03
Yes.
00:47:04
Yes.
00:47:04
Yes.
00:47:04
Yes.
00:47:04
So Do
00:47:05
you wanna talk when it's gonna be, or do you know yet?
00:47:07
Yep.
00:47:07
We should air on the 27th.
00:47:08
I don't know when this episode is gonna air, coming out of the 27th.
00:47:11
And then I am doing a digestive detective, program where as a group, we dive into our I'm
00:47:20
Mark Avaya.
00:47:21
And we do a stool test and we dive into all the imbalances within our body and things that we
00:47:26
can do to optimize that We do that.
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We don't collectively poop as a group, but I do call it.
00:47:32
Poop poop.
00:47:32
You poop at home.
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We just test the results as a group.
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And then I customize, recommendations based on that.
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So I have another session of that coming up launching beginning of March.
00:47:42
And then just some amazing educational opportunities to just share it in power and,
00:47:47
hopefully take the message international this year too.
00:47:50
Wow.
00:47:50
We're definitely gonna bring you back on so we can get, like, in in-depth on a lot of the
00:47:54
stuff we talked about today.
00:47:56
Man, if you if you're listening and you got some value out of the show, which if you
00:48:00
didn't, then I don't know.
00:48:01
Maybe you're deaf.
00:48:02
Like, I'm like, right?
00:48:02
But, like, check out doctor Anya.
00:48:05
Where can they find you online and Instagram and and kind of give us where we can look you
00:48:09
up.
00:48:09
Yeah.
00:48:10
My Instagram is Doctor Anya Seghetti.
00:48:12
So fun be able to spell that, but s z I g e t I, I'm sure we'll we'll link that in the show
00:48:16
notes.
00:48:17
It's probably the best place.
00:48:18
I have an amazing, person that's helped me out with that just to get the message out with
00:48:22
that, because I'm terrible with social media, and she's amazing.
00:48:25
That's probably the best best app.
00:48:26
You're like going into grocery stores and calling out, like, happy food
00:48:29
in grocery.
00:48:30
I love that.
00:48:31
I get a whole thing on Baker recently.
00:48:34
And and I love to hear where where people are having questions so that I can make sure that
00:48:38
I'm getting the content out that people want.
00:48:40
And actually, You're inspiring me.
00:48:43
I've I've had several people ask me to start a podcast, so I'm looking into
00:48:46
that.
00:48:46
Awesome.
00:48:47
So hopefully, and put this on myself to launch that.
00:48:49
And then month.
00:48:49
It's a great platform for just spreading this knowledge, man, and this right here.
00:48:53
Right?
00:48:53
And if you obviously listen to this, go get you can't outrun your fork.
00:48:58
The book here about how nutrition is, I mean, pivotal.
00:49:02
Yeah.
00:49:02
Great book.
00:49:02
Tons of recipes.
00:49:03
I forgot to go make some of that power cave right now, man.
00:49:07
But that's awesome.
00:49:08
So we have I got one last question and we'll wrap up.
00:49:11
I asked this every guest we have.
00:49:13
You have your 12 things that you talked about.
00:49:14
The 12 kinda optimized things.
00:49:16
We have 6 pillars, fuel, movement, sleep, mind, purpose, and spirit.
00:49:22
And so we believe that to live full fueled if you have all these pillar optimize, you are
00:49:26
full fueled.
00:49:27
What does living full fueled look like for Anya Seguinea?
00:49:30
That is amazing.
00:49:31
I mean, that that covers into the majority of of what I cover as well in the Segueti method.
00:49:37
So, for me, that is being present.
00:49:42
That is being there showing up 100% for myself, for my husband, for my miniature, docs, and
00:49:49
Milo, travels everywhere with us, including Europe twice.
00:49:54
And if I'm not showing up a 110 per percent for myself, then I can't be there to help anyone
00:49:59
else because you can't pour from an empty vessel.
00:50:02
I tried for years, and it's not possible.
00:50:04
So that's making sure that, you know, I'm starting my day with with sunlight.
00:50:09
I'm getting fresh water.
00:50:10
My nutrition's on point.
00:50:13
I'm taking time for mindfulness.
00:50:15
I do a lot of yoga.
00:50:16
I'm gonna and that just really helps to clear my mind and keep me balanced.
00:50:20
I have a personal relationship with with the lord, and so that that helps guide my purpose.
00:50:24
And I really feel like he has, you know, took me on this journey, and I'm his vessel to be
00:50:29
able to help empower others.
00:50:31
And so living through that just just really gives me goosebumps and just really just, fuels
00:50:36
me every day.
00:50:37
Smash that answer.
00:50:38
That was amazing.
00:50:39
Anya Segetti is full fuel to the brim.
00:50:42
It
00:50:44
fuel.
00:50:44
Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:50:48
It has been an extreme pleasure.
00:50:50
It really is.
00:50:51
Thank you so much.
00:50:52
Cliff Fulfield.
00:50:53
Libby Allen with me.