Faith & Fitness: How This Power Couple Transformed Their Lives and Built an Empire
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Faith & Fitness: How This Power Couple Transformed Their Lives and Built an Empire

null (0:00) Introduction and backgrounds of Micah and Diana Laerte (1:22) Micah LaCerte's fitness journey and meeting Diana (5:03) The creation of HitchFit and its success stories (7:02) The success wall at HitchFit gym and overcoming industry obstacles (10:17) Sponsor: FullFuel.com (11:16) Diana's story and the mission behind HitchFit (13:53) Experiences with corporate gyms and developing a new model (16:27) Early success stories and the role of Pinterest (17:56) Reflecting on personal growth and gratitude moments (23:55) Personal blessings and transformations through HitchFit (25:52) The inspiration for soul fit retreats and overcoming personal tragedy (32:03) Dive into the retreats' approach and elements (34:26) Addressing gluttony within the Christian faith and health (39:20) Treating the body as a temple and the importance of holistic health (42:21) Food choices' impact on mental and physical well-being (45:40) The spiritual battle against unhealthy living (47:40) Sponsor: Nutritious powered by Nutropix (48:14) Overcoming food addiction and sharing personal victories (52:15) The role of discipline in faith, health, and fitness (52:58) Discussing the importance of muscle for longevity (58:23) Sponsor: Alessi Functional Health (59:12) The significance of muscle strength for women and aging (1:02:03) Overcoming gym intimidation and maintaining fitness (1:04:43) Comparing benefits of supersets, cardio, and strength training (1:07:27) Personal workout preferences and routine insights (1:09:18) Announcement of the upcoming lean in level up conference (1:14:46) Where to connect with Micah and Diana Laerte online (1:15:29) Closing thoughts on what living 'Full Fueled' means

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What's up, baby?

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What's up, man?

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What's going on?

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That's good to be here.

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We live in

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full field.

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Back.

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I'm always live in

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full field.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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So joining us today, a 2 phenomenal guest.

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I'm super excited, Micah, and Diana Laerte.

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They're not just a powerhouse couple in life, but also at the forefront of online fitness and

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in the health industry.

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Mica, renowned for his expertise in personal training and wellness, has transformed lives

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Across the Globe.

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There's innovative fitness programs.

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And Diana, with her incredible journey and dedication has been an integral part of this

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transformative movement, inspiring countless individuals to achieve their health in fitness

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goals.

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They have not only built an empire fitness world, but also created an impactful retreats

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and events that go beyond just workouts and die plans.

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They focus on holistic health, community building, and sustainable lifestyle changes.

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And let's not forget they're gearing up for their exciting and upcoming event in Tampa, the

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lean in level of conference, which promises to be a game changer in the world of fitness and

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faith.

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So whether you're a fitness enthusiast, someone just looking spark that level of motivation or

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just curious about the journey behind the success.

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This episode is for you.

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Micah and Diana, welcome to the Full Field pod.

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Guest.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I I like that intro.

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That was nice, though, so

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that was nice.

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So so good

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to have you guys

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here, man.

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We have

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to be here.

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We are so excited.

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Extremely blessed as are we.

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So, Michael, I guess we'll start with you.

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We got a lot of questions, and then we're gonna we're gonna dig in a a little bit further.

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So

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we're gonna start off here by asking you, you become a renowned figure in the online health

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health and fitness space.

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Can you share a moment of when you realized fitness was more than just a hobby?

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Man, I would I would have to go all the way back when it first started.

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The 1st 18 years of my life were really brutal.

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I went through a lot of really horrific things.

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Fitness became something that ended up saving my life at one of the lowest parts of my life.

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I always, contribute it to, like, dumbbells and chicken breast

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Yeah.

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As a joke, but I was really in a very dark place.

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I was I was struggling.

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And when you go through pain and you go through trauma, you know, sometimes you get to those

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places in life where you just you don't know which direction to go.

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So when I had got to college, I start working out.

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And I I initially wanted to do it because I wanna look like the guys on covers magazines.

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I wanted to do that.

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But within weeks, I started to see how it changed my mind and how the anxiety was going

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down depression.

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You know, and and just I got this urge of like, okay, I feel amazing.

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I want everyone else to feel this way too.

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And and so it was this hobby, but it was also this lifeline.

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It was something that became a part of my identity, a part of my DNA, and I wanted

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everyone else to have too.

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That is huge.

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That is huge.

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Now we aren't gonna we're gonna come back to that, but I want your story of how you guys

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met.

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And then how Hitch Fit came about.

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Oh, well, how we met?

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My space in Las Vegas.

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True love.

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True love.

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That's where true love happens.

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It works.

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So, yeah, we actually met in through MySpace, for those of you who are old enough to remember

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the MySpace days.

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We were, we were both doing stuff in the fitness industry.

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We connected there.

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And I always tell people it wasn't like he he wrote to me one day and, you know, it wasn't

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like, hey, baby.

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It was more just we were kind of doing things that were similar.

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I was living in in San Antonio, Texas at the time, and he was in Kansas City.

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And we just kinda started a conversation.

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And then it was the 2008 Olympia in Las Vegas and

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Okay.

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I was I was gonna go just because that's what you did back in the day before Instagram.

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You actually had to go and, like, meet people in person and meet magazines and talk to

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photographers in person.

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And I was like, hey.

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Are you going?

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Like, let's meet at the expo.

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And he was like, yeah.

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I'm going.

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So we were texting and We met at the expo, and we were literally, we were just going to take a

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picture together.

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And, we met.

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We took the picture together, and we were like, I like you.

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Like, I think we're gonna hang out and and we actually yeah.

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It

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was it

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was kind of, you know, they they it was a it was kind of an instant connection, and he it

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felt like I had known him for a long time.

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We were kind of instantly friends.

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We ended up hanging out that entire weekend together.

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By the end of the weekend, we were like, Yeah.

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Like, this is this is pretty much it for me.

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And I moved to Kansas City 2 months later, and he was in the process of starting HitchFit and

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what people so remember in my space, you had you didn't have your real name.

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You had, like, a different name.

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His name on my space was Hitch.

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So when he was writing to me at first, I was like, who's this hitch guy?

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Will Smith.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was, yeah, it was actually based on, the Will Smith movie because he had introduced some

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people that had ended up getting married.

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So that's where he got the nickname pitch.

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And when he had first written to me back then, I had never gone through to actually see his

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profile.

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And one day, he changed his name to Micah, and he wrote to me again, like, a couple months

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later, and I was like, who is this?

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Who's Micah?

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I don't know even know what this is.

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And so I actually clicked through to his profile and and he was this is kind of a funny

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story.

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He was he was in a muscle and fitness, spread, a sprinting article.

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And I had literally taken that article and I had gone and done the article, like, done the

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the workout at a track that was next door to house.

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And so when I clicked through, I was like, wait, he's the guy that was in the sprinting

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article that I literally just did.

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So that was kind of where Hitch came from there.

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I moved to Kansas City.

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Hitchfit was born.

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Like, we launched it.

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I moved there in November.

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We launched it in February 2009 with the online side.

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And that started to grow because nobody knew what online personal training was.

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And, in July of 2009, we started we opened her first hitch fit gym, and that's, you know, 15

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years later, and we're still doing the same thing just transforming people's lives.

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It's amazing.

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That's that's such a cool story.

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And I

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was just I don't know why I was just thinking this, but, like, who's the guy that you had to

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be friends with?

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On my space.

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Like, I started it.

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Tom.

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Everyone, Tom.

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I mean, everyone has Tom.

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Yeah.

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I mean, remember you had the top 8 friends.

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And if those friends changed in any ways.

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People are like, what happened?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You have to have your own music and design.

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Just a

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lot of people.

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Kids these days

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have no idea

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how awesome it was.

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That was great.

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You had your

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song like, started playing?

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I mean

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That's right.

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You decide your whole pro.

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That's, you know,

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so Bring it back, unfortunately.

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So, yeah, I mean, your gym's pretty cool looking too.

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You guys have, like, a wall of all the people who have hit their goals, right, like a success

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wall.

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Yeah.

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And it's, I mean, it's a big wall packed with small pictures.

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So that's tons of people you guys have helped.

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That's that's critical.

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Yeah.

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How many pounds is it?

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Like, we we're over £600 in 82 countries now.

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600.

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Wow.

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So when we started Hitch Fit, we lived in an attic.

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Like, dude, we had nothing.

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Yeah.

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But what we had is this deep desire to help individuals get to an amazing place.

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It all started for me way back when she has her own story too.

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So when we came together, we were like, you love helping people?

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Yeah.

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I do too.

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Let's start this thing and really go and help people.

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Yeah.

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Initially, we were just like, you know, what is the goal on this to help as many people as

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humanly possible that god puts in front of us.

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Yeah.

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And that is literally the same exact plan that we followed since way back in 2009 when we

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started.

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So I love having you guys here because

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that's that's

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where I'm at too, man.

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It's like where I'm on, you know, on this earth right now.

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God'd given me some abilities that you know, through chiropractic functional medicine, all

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that, to help others as well.

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Right?

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And then obviously teaming up with Matt here to to do this podcast.

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Now, this is a this is a question that I think is in spiring for a lot of people, probably in

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the health of fitness space entrepreneurship.

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It doesn't matter.

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But, what's, what's one myth about fitness, about the fitness health, and that's

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specifically fit and how you guys have how you guys really have a ground level all the way 15

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years now that was just, like, maybe a massive obstacle that you're like, oh, are we ever

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gonna overcome this that now you can laugh about?

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Oh, man.

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I mean, as far as hitch fit goes, one of the biggest obstacles.

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We had 2 obstacles.

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The first obstacle was, like, we had created something.

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We were pioneers in that space.

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1 of the first And so how do you teach the world what it is you do without going to Google

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and have a description of it?

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So everybody's mind at that point was you have to do one on one in person for personal

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training to work.

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Yeah.

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And so we're like, no, dude, it works.

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And so it took us having people from Canada and all over the world to start, like, sharing

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their stories and then people like, what is this?

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I can do this never have to leave my home.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know where I can go to my own gym and do this.

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So that was a really beautiful thing.

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The other thing in the brick and mortars that was the difficult part for us was everywhere

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you go as far as one on one training, whether it be membership gyms or small private studios,

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everything is built off of retention.

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So my goal is to work with you guys as long as humanly possible with no end goal in sight.

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We did it the exact op it.

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And we're one of the very first, I think the first gym that actually did the way we did it

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where it was like, hey.

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You're gonna be with this 90 to a 120 days, depending on what their goals were.

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And then you're gonna be out the door.

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We're gonna teach you everything you need to do and transform you rather than retain you.

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I love that.

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Man, I I do the same thing in my office.

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Yep.

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Like, you know, you hear the thing about chiropractors.

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Oh, I

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have to stay coming for the rest of my life and there is some validity to that if you're just

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doing, like, basic chiropractic adjustments, right, that that's gonna only you so much

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mobility, but what I do with the corrective care is same thing I tell everyone.

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I'm like, the more you're seeing me, the worse you're doing.

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So you could get

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to a point where you don't have to back and your spine is in a good place, then I've done

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my job and, like, you know, if you wanna come back, great.

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I love that, but not try to lock someone in love that.

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And that's it's like an act of empowerment.

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You're really empowering people at that point.

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And honest, you know?

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Well, your heart, I think, is in the right place.

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Like, you you genuinely just wanna help this soul.

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And and we have clients that stay with us longer.

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Yeah.

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I also wanna say that, but we don't market that.

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We don't push that.

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These are just people that are like, hey, man.

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Can I keep going, or are you gonna, like, fire me?

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And I'm like, Yeah.

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Sometimes I'm like, man, you gotta go do it on your own for 3 months, and then I'll take you

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back.

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I gotta see that you can also do this.

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You know, so it just it it just depends on the individual.

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So were you a trainer before you guys started fit or was

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so I was gonna

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say, what was the moment where you guys looked at each other?

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We're like, we're we're gonna do this.

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Right?

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Like, what was that like?

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That was Fairly early on.

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I had been a trainer for, like, 2002 was when I first started 1 on 1 training, and so that was

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6 years 6 years in, but we pretty much knew, like, he had the concept.

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And then when we met, it was like, okay.

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We're doing like, this is this is happening.

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And it was like, he and also I brought the female component in, and I had I had started a

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business in Texas that, like, bombed, but I learned a lot of lessons through that that I

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was able to bring in

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Totally.

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To hitch fit and and and use it.

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And, yeah, it really was just the whole mission was to if we're gonna teach people a lifestyle,

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you're probably not gonna work with me for the rest of your life.

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So it was like, let's I want you to I don't want you to feel like you are relying on us to

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live a healthy lifestyle.

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So that was kind of the

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whole concept of, like, you

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know, and it's and it's fine.

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Some people, they know themselves well enough.

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They know that they need someone for that accountability.

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That's just knowing yourself, but I also want to teach them as much as we as much as we

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possibly can so they feel equipped to, like, if my trainer's not there, then I just don't work

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out or I just don't make healthy choices I'm not going to the gym.

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So a lot of mindset work and stuff too.

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That is huge.

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That's that empowerment piece you're saying.

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Right?

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Like Yeah.

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Equipping them with the tools.

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Like, yeah, they need start and they need to learn, but then eventually, you know, it's

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their health, not yours.

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Right?

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You can't want it more than them ultimately.

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I think it's it's really also important to share that we both had worked in other gyms

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before, which we mentioned, but

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it took

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us working in those

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gyms to then

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understand

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what we didn't wanna do.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Because, like, for me, I remember working at corporate gyms and not once not one time in all

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those years that I worked in corporate, did we have a meeting based off of the success of our

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clients?

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It was based off of how many sales did we have?

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How many sales were we gonna get?

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Who were we gonna target?

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All of this.

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And I kept thinking, and I was like, man, dude.

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Like, this is a business.

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I understand that, but at the same time, if we put the client in the person's success and

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they're actually well-being in health first, this business is gonna be way bigger.

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Yeah.

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And so we were like, hey.

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It's not on the it's not on the market.

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We're gonna build it.

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Yeah.

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We're gonna build that model.

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Just jogged a thought about, like, we went to this gym the other day, you know, the gym I'm

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going to was closing down and we're like, let's go try this out.

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It's one of these big box gym man.

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I walked in and I was like, they're all about the sale.

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They sign up as many people as they can on these $10, $1 entries.

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Right?

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But then there's zero personal attention, unless you sign up with a trainer, and it

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you're just another number.

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Eventually, what I've seen for the big buck big box gyms is the facilities start to, like,

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degrade over time.

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Like, man, this place super clean a year ago.

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Nobody's wiping up.

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Right?

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And so, yeah.

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You're like, then you move on.

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You go

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to the next one.

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Right?

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And, like, that's not a great model either.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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I love the personal attention you guys have in in your business.

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That's cool.

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Yeah.

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You put the person first.

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And Right.

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We always have kinda put money very far down the line.

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Just been obedient to the lord and just putting people first.

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And that's why when you walk into our gyms, you just like, woah.

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6 that's how we define success Yeah.

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Is being able to work with each one of those individuals and go through that journey and

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that transformation with them.

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Yeah.

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Mhmm.

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You can

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feel that from you guys.

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I feel

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that.

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I like it

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is, I think John Maxwell.

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He just really says it when they head in the hard line.

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Right?

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And it's always in for an act of service more than anything else and how am I serving you

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first?

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Yeah.

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And then you know, the rest will come, but that empowerment piece, I I love that.

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What it what would you consider was, you know, because there's always that you know, for me,

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in an entrepreneurship, there's that grind phase.

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And you're like, there's, like, almost the white knuckling piece.

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You're like, hey, you're embarking on this.

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Is like a new journey, but then eventually there comes like obviously the tipping point.

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I love the Malcolm Gladwell, the the the tipping point.

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There's always that we're gonna keep serving.

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We're gonna keep serving.

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But is it gonna work out?

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You know?

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Is there was there a point in time in that 15 years where you're like, are we're hitting a

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tipping point here?

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I would say probably that was early on, like, maybe a 10, 11 ish because so there was a

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moment when, Okay.

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I've really, like, taken this back.

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So when Pinterest came out

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Yeah.

00:15:41
And, like, I had no idea what Pinterest was.

00:15:44
And you know, transformation stories were what we were built on.

00:15:47
And we always just figured if we could transform one person and that person was

00:15:51
willing to share their stories because all the pictures you see from Hitchfit is people that

00:15:54
have agreed to share their stories.

00:15:56
So it's actually a really small percentage people we've actually worked with because some

00:16:00
people don't wanna share their stories.

00:16:02
So we have this girl Brandy who's actually still part of the fit family literally just saw

00:16:08
her the other day.

00:16:08
We put her pictures out, and all of a sudden, we were just getting leads and leads and leads

00:16:13
and leads, and we were from online.

00:16:16
And we were all these people were signing up for online, and we were like, what is

00:16:20
happening?

00:16:20
Like, where are you people coming from?

00:16:22
Her picture got pinned, like, 40 times within, like, a 1

00:16:27
or 1

00:16:27
or 2 days.

00:16:28
Yeah.

00:16:28
What if I want viral.

00:16:30
People were on on our questionnaires.

00:16:32
It was like, where'd you hear about us?

00:16:34
If people were like, Pinterest, and we're like, I'm like, Pinterest What

00:16:37
is what is this?

00:16:38
Have you

00:16:38
ever heard of Pinterest?

00:16:40
And so I'm like, well, yeah, I'm trying to figure out what this Pinterest is.

00:16:43
And I think it was around then that we realized we were really onto something that that we

00:16:48
could really just build and grow.

00:16:49
And then also when we get to move out of the attic, like

00:16:52
Yeah.

00:16:52
That was a that was a good

00:16:53
all good.

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But it

00:16:56
I think it's really important to to remember the addict stages of our lives.

00:17:01
State.

00:17:01
Right?

00:17:02
Because those were the times where you're like, you had to appreciate the small to appreciate

00:17:06
the much.

00:17:07
That's right.

00:17:07
God is very clear about that.

00:17:09
And we still think about that and go, man, I gotta miss that addict sometimes.

00:17:13
Yeah.

00:17:13
You know, more responsibility.

00:17:14
It's a lot.

00:17:15
You know?

00:17:16
So Yeah.

00:17:17
There's it's that's so and I was thinking about this actually yesterday morning to, one of my

00:17:24
things that I do with my girls, I get to drive them to school every morning.

00:17:27
And, I was like, we need to I need to have a triggering session of reflection.

00:17:31
Like, I need to I need to pull back and really, really reflect more and more and more.

00:17:36
And so I was like, you know, I can do that in a meditative state, but how awesome it is to do

00:17:41
it with my with my daughters in the car.

00:17:43
And so we've really honed in.

00:17:44
I we we literally just, like, singing in the car together, but the many little miracles by,

00:17:50
Maverick City, and they're out in the Midwest, aren't they?

00:17:52
Maverick City matters?

00:17:53
Am I right?

00:17:54
I'm not sure where they're at.

00:17:56
Anyways, we, we just put that song on and we just sing and we're like, 1,

00:18:02
2, 3, 4.

00:18:04
Shit.

00:18:04
You know,

00:18:05
it is just one of the one of these things where, like, you can reflect and it just

00:18:09
automatically takes me back.

00:18:10
It's like, even if you took those are good old days, you know?

00:18:14
And, just being uber present with those the time in the attic, right?

00:18:18
Yeah.

00:18:18
Just really getting getting back s h.

00:18:20
I think that's really important in the school.

00:18:22
Yeah.

00:18:22
You gotta know where you're from.

00:18:23
Right?

00:18:24
You gotta know where

00:18:24
you're going, man.

00:18:25
Keeps you humble through the process.

00:18:27
Yeah.

00:18:27
That's cool.

00:18:29
Any moments you can reflect on, over the past 15 years that just, like, is your highlight

00:18:33
real?

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You mean a business or

00:18:35
It can be it can be just overall business.

00:18:38
Yeah.

00:18:38
We keep it in the theme of, business or or to collectively together.

00:18:41
Is there's a a highlight?

00:18:42
I know you guys had some retreats, and we're gonna step into that here shortly.

00:18:46
But what are what are some highlights maybe?

00:18:48
That is a great question.

00:18:50
I think I'll go with this one first.

00:18:51
You may wanna like, a client story, but so so the home that we live in now, while we'll go

00:18:56
back, we'll talk about the attic again.

00:18:59
When we lived in the attic, we anytime we had to drive to the airport, which wasn't very

00:19:04
frequent because we didn't have any money.

00:19:07
There was this there was this home on the hillside and the this beautiful home that every

00:19:13
time we drove by it, we would be like, someday we're gonna live there.

00:19:17
And we we we'd be like, you know, it's so nice those people are living there and taking care

00:19:21
of our house right now.

00:19:22
I mean, we those words, like, came out of our mouth.

00:19:25
And and then probably, let's see, in 20 in 2014, so that was what, 6 years after we had

00:19:33
started the business, the that home came for sale.

00:19:37
And we were kind of in a better position financially, and he used to, like, to track it

00:19:41
on, like, Zillow and and see it.

00:19:43
And he was one day, he's like, You're not gonna believe this.

00:19:46
Our house is for sale.

00:19:47
And so we were like, well, I don't I mean, is that too much?

00:19:51
Like, is it something we could do?

00:19:53
And so we're kinda like, well, let's, like, just go look at it and just kinda see what

00:19:58
happens.

00:19:58
And we we went and looked at it, and we were like, I mean, obviously, I mean, it was

00:20:03
amazing.

00:20:03
It was beautiful.

00:20:04
So we were like, well, can this, like, can this actually happen?

00:20:07
Because there was gonna be a lot of pieces that had to fall in.

00:20:10
We had we had moved into a town home.

00:20:11
So we weren't in the attic anymore.

00:20:13
At by the time we were looking at the house, we were in a little town home.

00:20:17
And the pieces of the puzzle for us to move into that house were that we would have to make

00:20:24
an off we would have to make a contingent offer because we'd have to sell our townhome.

00:20:29
And, like, all of these things were gonna have to fall exactly into place for this to happen.

00:20:33
And I was

00:20:34
going on a trip to Haiti right in the time that, like, was was closing and things were

00:20:40
gonna take place.

00:20:42
So we we were like, we surrender this.

00:20:44
I don't need I don't need a big house.

00:20:46
Like, if the lord wants us there, if there's work we're supposed to do in that home, totally

00:20:50
surrendered.

00:20:51
It was never like, oh, I gotta have a big house.

00:20:53
But the story of how this all came to be that we got to to live where we live now is so

00:20:59
beautiful.

00:21:00
So that they accepted that offer.

00:21:02
Our townhome sold with the very first people that walked into it, with a more than full

00:21:08
price offer And I go to Haiti, and the day of closing was gonna be the day after I got back

00:21:15
from Haiti.

00:21:16
And I had to be there, obviously, mostly for for signing everything.

00:21:20
So before we go to Haiti, we're try I and he was staying home.

00:21:23
We're like, okay.

00:21:24
What do we do?

00:21:24
Do we pack the house up?

00:21:25
Like, what if something goes off during inspections and the whole deal?

00:21:28
Like, what do we do?

00:21:29
And I was praying on my porch of ever a little town home one morning, and I'm What do we do,

00:21:34
lord?

00:21:34
And he he said, why don't you trust me?

00:21:38
And I was like, wow.

00:21:40
I'm sorry.

00:21:41
He's like, I'm giving you this gift like, why don't you trust me?

00:21:44
So I went in and I was like, we gotta, like, let's pack everything up.

00:21:47
Let's put everything in pods.

00:21:49
Like, if all gonna work out.

00:21:51
And so that's what we did.

00:21:52
He slept he stayed I was in Haiti for 10 days, and he slept on, like, a blanket or something.

00:21:58
I don't know what she did.

00:22:00
It was 10 days.

00:22:00
All the stuff was out of

00:22:01
the house.

00:22:02
I made it happen.

00:22:02
Figured it out.

00:22:03
We're we're guys.

00:22:04
No problem.

00:22:04
Oh, yeah.

00:22:05
But I'm in the middle of a field in Haiti, and they had, like, a little satellite phone

00:22:09
because so that he could call me to tell me if everything had gone through So, like, I'm

00:22:14
literally in this field, and they're like, Diana, it's Micah.

00:22:17
And so, you know, everything had gone through.

00:22:20
And then the morning I was leaving for the air leaving Haiti to fly back.

00:22:25
I I was a very early morning flight, and the lady at the counter, like, she she pendant had

00:22:31
much coffee.

00:22:32
And she was kinda gruff with me.

00:22:34
She was but she was like, I'm changing your flight.

00:22:36
And I was like, you know, just like, okay.

00:22:39
And she's like, you don't a long enough time for your connection where you're going.

00:22:42
So I'm changing this flight.

00:22:44
And I was just like, okay.

00:22:45
Thank you.

00:22:46
And I I didn't she's like, so you're not gonna get back to Kansas City till, like, 8 or 9 PM

00:22:51
tonight.

00:22:52
And I was just like, okay.

00:22:53
Thank you.

00:22:54
And it was just one of those moments.

00:22:56
I was like, even though she wasn't even a good mood, what she did for me, made it so I got

00:23:02
back to Kansas City in time.

00:23:04
And I'm like, even if she had just let that slide and let me go to the first place.

00:23:08
And I hadn't made my connection.

00:23:10
It could have been in this whole thing.

00:23:11
So I was just like, thank

00:23:13
you, Ward.

00:23:14
Thank you that she even though she wasn't having a great morning so far, like, she did

00:23:19
that and she made it so that I got home in time, slip on the floor for a couple hours, got

00:23:24
up the next day, signed all the papers, and we moved into the house that night.

00:23:28
So it was just this total, like, wow god like, thank you.

00:23:33
And then we ended up being able to have bible studies there for many years.

00:23:37
Our pastor lived with us for, like, 3 years down because there was a space for him.

00:23:41
So we've just been able to use it for so many things, and it is just really a beautiful

00:23:45
blessing.

00:23:46
Yeah.

00:23:46
That's a highlight.

00:23:47
My wife my wife calls out Godwigs.

00:23:49
Yeah.

00:23:50
I got you.

00:23:50
It was a big one.

00:23:53
Yep.

00:23:55
That's awesome.

00:23:56
You got one off hand?

00:23:57
Yeah.

00:23:58
I think one of the biggest blessings that has ever come from Hitchfit is not anything that

00:24:03
actually happened in the gym.

00:24:05
Like she had mentioned with Haiti, she she went down for multiple mission trips and about, 12

00:24:15
ago or something.

00:24:15
She's on a mission trip and, you know, they're they're taking pictures of the children for

00:24:20
sponsorships.

00:24:21
And she ultimately is hearing from the lord that we're supposed to take the entire school

00:24:26
of children.

00:24:27
You know, we're newer in our business, and this is like 80 or 90 kids.

00:24:32
But all she's hearing from the lord is I will provide for you and make sure that these kids

00:24:36
are always taken care of, and he's never let the oil run dry ever.

00:24:40
You know, since that point through COVID, through every downfall, through whatnot, those

00:24:43
kids have always been prepared.

00:24:45
So one of the biggest blessings for me outside of the kids, was going and seeing the children

00:24:50
for the first time.

00:24:51
Yeah.

00:24:52
And hugging them and seeing that joy.

00:24:54
And they're jumping on me like a jungle gym and just like so much love and so much beauty in

00:25:00
those souls and seeing

00:25:01
Oh, wow.

00:25:02
The blessing god gave us.

00:25:04
We were looked at as a blessing because we we were able to give them an opportunity.

00:25:09
But for us, I was like, dude, this is an even bigger opportunity for us, man.

00:25:13
Like, I was there, and I I'm just like balling and and they sang to us.

00:25:18
I'll send you the video after this.

00:25:19
Yeah.

00:25:20
I mean, that I mean, that's that's that's why we go.

00:25:23
It's it's why we go, man.

00:25:25
You know, it's why we go.

00:25:26
It's bigger than

00:25:26
that.

00:25:27
Yeah.

00:25:27
It has to be bigger than it.

00:25:28
And when you can make impact like that, it's so powerful.

00:25:31
And I want everyone to feel that, man.

00:25:34
You know?

00:25:34
Yeah.

00:25:35
So

00:25:36
Oh my gosh, man.

00:25:37
We're

00:25:37
we have a screen that's off is yesterday.

00:25:39
Oh, we had a lot of tears too down, like, which just tells the story.

00:25:43
It just was.

00:25:43
Yeah.

00:25:44
When you could have envisioned that, you just did brazing.

00:25:46
And I I'll send

00:25:47
you the video.

00:25:48
It's beautiful.

00:25:48
Yeah.

00:25:49
It's it's gonna be actually at the conference too.

00:25:51
Oh, really?

00:25:52
Yeah.

00:25:52
Oh

00:25:52
my gosh.

00:25:53
It's awesome.

00:25:54
Well, Alfie, let's dive into, the retreats because we really wanna hone in.

00:25:58
Yeah.

00:25:58
Definitely.

00:25:59
That's your latest and numbers.

00:26:01
Yeah.

00:26:01
For sure.

00:26:01
Yeah.

00:26:02
Yeah.

00:26:02
So you guys, like, what was the inspiration behind it.

00:26:04
Obviously, your personal trainers with a gym of online businesses all sound like it was all

00:26:08
doing really well.

00:26:09
What was, like, the, hey, let's dive into these these soul sole fit retreats is the name.

00:26:13
Right?

00:26:13
What was the, the spark there, man?

00:26:16
So we knew we wanted to tap into other things.

00:26:18
We love traveling.

00:26:20
That way, that was one of the big things, but we also wanted to impact people's lives in kind

00:26:23
of a different way.

00:26:24
That's kinda where the retreats came.

00:26:26
So we're here in Tampa right now.

00:26:28
Tampa has great significance because we had met this really beautiful couple out of Tampa.

00:26:34
His name was Travis and his wife and they were doing this, they were doing this retreat

00:26:40
business.

00:26:41
And they asked us to be a part of it, kinda do this hybrid hitch fit in their business at the

00:26:47
same time as 1.

00:26:48
And so we're like, man, that would be awesome.

00:26:50
They had everything set up in in Mexico.

00:26:52
We end up doing a retreat with them.

00:26:54
We start seeing this more at the retreat where we're like, we could add this element that they

00:26:59
don't have within it yet called Jesus.

00:27:04
And make this thing like game changing.

00:27:07
And so we did this first thing, which we call voices in the villa, and these people start

00:27:12
opening up.

00:27:13
We made a safe place.

00:27:14
They got vulnerable.

00:27:15
They start sharing.

00:27:17
And then we're there as a foundation in Christ going, hey.

00:27:20
Here here's a way.

00:27:21
And it it was just a really beautiful thing.

00:27:23
So we knew after that, we were like, okay.

00:27:25
We wanna do this, and we love the couple.

00:27:27
So we are all in.

00:27:29
And Oh, man, dude.

00:27:30
This is tough.

00:27:31
So, a year ago 2.

00:27:35
Right now

00:27:36
This weekend.

00:27:37
Like, right now, a year ago, we were looking at, oof, we were looking at, conference.

00:27:45
Spots to to run a conference.

00:27:47
She had a vision of doing a conference.

00:27:49
I was gonna share my story for the first time when my 1st 18 years.

00:27:53
We're with Travis, his wife, me, and Diana, we find the location.

00:27:56
We we end up we end up going back.

00:27:58
This this is,

00:27:59
Well, we had set we had set up the Mexican, you know, we were we were planning on the next

00:28:04
retreat.

00:28:04
We had a retreat that was already in place.

00:28:06
We were talking about a conference that was in place.

00:28:09
At this point once we have found the center and, a couple weeks later, let's see.

00:28:15
3 weeks later, we get a call, about 8 pm and our business partner, Travis, had died

00:28:21
tragically, on his birthday weekend.

00:28:25
He had an aneurysm.

00:28:26
He was snowmobiling.

00:28:28
And if you knew him, like, it was the way he should have went out because he he he, you

00:28:33
know, the last thing that he said to her was drive fast and take answers.

00:28:36
And she looked back and she goes, no.

00:28:40
But he was a unicorn of life.

00:28:42
Well, we're obviously grieving.

00:28:43
This guy was loved by so many, and we had ninety people at the retreat.

00:28:48
You know?

00:28:49
Oh, so 5 weeks later.

00:28:50
So

00:28:50
5 weeks later.

00:28:51
Yeah.

00:28:52
1 year ago, literally this weekend, we were here with him looking for places for the

00:28:56
conference, but we were leading into, we had a retreat in Mexico in March of 2023 where we had

00:29:03
ninety people that were coming with us.

00:29:05
So so he died on February 4th.

00:29:08
So we're coming up on the year anniversary.

00:29:10
We still had to retreat coming up 5 weeks after he passed where we literally just kinda had to

00:29:16
pick up the ball and and run you know, we have a grieving wife you know, ninety people that

00:29:22
are, you know, like, wondering what's gonna happen.

00:29:24
And we were like, no.

00:29:25
This is we're going forward with this.

00:29:27
And so we we stepped into that, you know, with a lot of prayer and a lot of like, lord, you

00:29:33
gotta give us the strength for this because we're still grieving and processing this too,

00:29:39
but we had to jump in and literally take over and run the entire thing.

00:29:42
Yeah.

00:29:43
And I tell you what, it was one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever been a part of.

00:29:48
People came in and instead of going to a retreat where they left their cares and worries

00:29:53
home and came in and is about, you know, partying and fun.

00:29:57
They brought their stuff with them.

00:29:59
And then we dug into the stuff with them.

00:30:02
And then we gave all the stuff to the lord.

00:30:05
And it was there was such an anointing on that entire time And people walked away changed.

00:30:11
Marriages were changed.

00:30:12
Like, I mean, people were just like, what is this that, like, They came in expecting one

00:30:18
thing.

00:30:18
They walked away with something completely different.

00:30:21
And it was it was so it was so beautiful.

00:30:25
And also just a confirmation from the lord for us of, like, you guys are supposed to continue

00:30:32
like and we knew that in our hearts.

00:30:34
Like, even the conferences he's talking about, well, that we're, you know, we're coming up on

00:30:39
here in a couple weeks.

00:30:40
Like, god gave me the vision for that conference a couple years ago, or when we very

00:30:46
first did our first retreat with him.

00:30:48
I had that vision for the conference.

00:30:51
And after Travis passed, it was like, you know, we're grieving and we're like, lord, what

00:30:55
supposed to do?

00:30:56
Like, we thought he was gonna be there with us, and he he said, I told you to do a conference.

00:31:01
I didn't tell you he was gonna be with you.

00:31:03
And so it was that's why we've just been stepping into it and and just if there's one

00:31:10
thing we've learned It's we're stepping into a space we know he's leading us to.

00:31:15
Every experience so far that Mexico and we had an incredible adventure retreat and Tember in

00:31:20
Asheville, North Carolina, spectacular.

00:31:22
Like, twenty people so much.

00:31:24
So so incredible, but we've just learned that we can have a plan And then he may be like,

00:31:31
nope.

00:31:31
You're going over

00:31:32
here.

00:31:33
Yeah.

00:31:33
But as long as it's surrendered, like, we're stepping in.

00:31:36
We're being obedient.

00:31:37
And we're just, him show up and show us what we're supposed to do and and trusting that he's

00:31:42
gonna he's gonna just be there as the foundation of it all.

00:31:46
And He's never let us down so far, so we're excited to see what happens.

00:31:50
That's awesome.

00:31:51
My dad used to say a quote, like, man plans and god laughs.

00:31:54
Yeah.

00:31:55
Yeah.

00:31:55
We try working so hard to to get something.

00:31:58
And then it's like, why is this falling apart?

00:32:00
Why is it why am I getting led this way?

00:32:01
It's like, listen, right?

00:32:03
You know, shut up

00:32:04
and listen some things, man.

00:32:05
So what's what's the approach to the retreats?

00:32:07
Like, tell us a little bit about kinda what people expect there or, you know, what what

00:32:11
happens?

00:32:11
So we take them to really amazing places around the world.

00:32:14
That's the number one thing.

00:32:15
So they're gonna be in a paradise type place for the Mexico retreats or cool.

00:32:19
As we do them further, you know, Costa Rica, different places that are gonna be spectacular.

00:32:24
We set a very safe and secure place for them.

00:32:27
So that they can share if they choose to or whatnot.

00:32:30
Obviously, foundation is in faith.

00:32:32
We don't press that onto people, but it is a part of our message.

00:32:36
It's as part of our principles, how we operate.

00:32:40
There's a fitness element and a health element that's really fun.

00:32:43
So this, like, last Mexico retreat we took them down to to Loom Jungle Gym.

00:32:47
And we rented out the place with the big giant dumbbells and yeah.

00:32:51
And, I mean, you you would have thought all these forty five year olds are coming in,

00:32:55
walking in and thinking like, it's Toys R Us as a kid.

00:32:57
They're just like, woah.

00:32:58
We planned to work out, and then we were like, oh, man.

00:33:01
They are not listening at all.

00:33:02
They just wanna go.

00:33:03
No.

00:33:03
It's not

00:33:04
And so it was it was a blast.

00:33:05
So there's that fitness element.

00:33:07
There's this uplifting digging into to to to pain points in what not and helping them find

00:33:14
their purpose and really give them the tools that they can essentially take home and apply

00:33:18
to their lives.

00:33:19
Yeah.

00:33:20
You know, something that is not fluffy something that is raw and real.

00:33:25
Yeah.

00:33:25
And also build this community that's just fantastic with like minded people that are

00:33:30
there to lift one another up.

00:33:32
This isn't, you know, this isn't phone parties and getting wasted.

00:33:36
This is like, diving into some some tough stuff, having a lot of fun and building some

00:33:42
amazing relationships.

00:33:43
That's awesome.

00:33:45
I think, I just think of it as, like, when you're drunk at the Holy Spirit.

00:33:50
Yes.

00:33:51
There is, like, I mean, that's a real thing too.

00:33:53
You literally, like, drunk of the holy spirit.

00:33:55
It's just so filled.

00:33:56
Yep.

00:33:56
And it's such a, like, there's nothing you can experience more than

00:34:00
that.

00:34:00
It's like

00:34:00
such an amazing experience.

00:34:03
Some that we don't.

00:34:04
Let me ask you this question, and this is a question kind of like off the beaten path a

00:34:09
little bit because it's something that I think, maybe I struggle with it to an extent, but you

00:34:14
guys are both really fit individuals.

00:34:17
And, I think this is just like church context that we don't talk about Gluttonia.

00:34:25
And, so There we go.

00:34:26
I don't wanna be shameful towards anyone.

00:34:28
Like, the point is not to create create, like, shame.

00:34:31
Right?

00:34:31
But, like, from an

00:34:31
authoritative, perspective, I just, you know, that's a topic that I'm like, man, we gotta

00:34:38
talk more about that in the Christian faith because it's so I feel like we need to be so

00:34:44
intentional about the we there's an essence of who we are, and then there's this borrowed

00:34:49
shell and, how we're protecting that borrowed shell.

00:34:52
So let's just open it up a little bit And, baby, I don't know if this is a deep question

00:34:57
that we wanna get to.

00:34:58
I mean, this is the stuff we like digging into because from where we stand in what we do for a

00:35:04
living and also where our faith is, we can get away with talking about it.

00:35:08
Mhmm.

00:35:09
Because our heart is in the right

00:35:11
So it's

00:35:11
not it's not offending someone, but I'm not gonna tell you what you wanna hear.

00:35:16
I'm gonna tell you what you need to hear, and that's the difference.

00:35:19
And I know in church, sometimes that can be difficult Yeah.

00:35:22
To to talk about that.

00:35:24
I and there's a couple pastors that are more fit pastors, and they talk about it sometimes.

00:35:27
And then they'll say something and go, I didn't get any amen.

00:35:32
Right?

00:35:32
Like, Craig Grachell is one of those.

00:35:34
You know, and and so It's like, like, it's a topic that means so much to us because so many

00:35:41
people are in bondage of food.

00:35:44
Not realizing what it even feels like to wake up healthy.

00:35:47
Right?

00:35:47
Are you putting food in front of god?

00:35:50
Like, are you taking care of that temple the way that you need to take care of that temple.

00:35:54
And he's not asking for perfection when it comes to every molecule that goes into your

00:35:59
body.

00:36:00
But, like, there's a difference between, like, perfection and then someone that is, like,

00:36:05
every meal is horrible.

00:36:07
Yeah.

00:36:07
No activity.

00:36:09
Like, how how are you gonna be your best parent, your best spouse, your best e even

00:36:14
following the purposes of god for you.

00:36:16
Like, you're limiting yourself from absolute blessing and and purpose that god has for you

00:36:23
because you can't even get out of your own shell with it.

00:36:25
You know,

00:36:26
it's deep, man.

00:36:27
And I think that's a lot of that is, you know, that, like, the addictive nature of a lot of

00:36:31
these foods, right, that are created for that.

00:36:33
We talked about on one of our first episodes, man, of how these foods are designed for you to

00:36:37
not be able to put that bag of chips down.

00:36:39
Right?

00:36:40
Like, and, Ben, I'm I'm the same.

00:36:41
Like, if I ate a couple chips, I'm like, I'm not gonna have a couple.

00:36:44
Alright, honey?

00:36:44
No.

00:36:45
How do you eat 2 chips?

00:36:46
Yeah.

00:36:46
Right?

00:36:46
And it's like, but

00:36:48
it's like, how do we protect that?

00:36:49
Like, how do we how do we not give into that?

00:36:52
And that's, I think, being, you know, obviously confident in yourself spiritually sound,

00:36:57
knowing kinda what that's gonna do to you down the line.

00:37:00
It's not easy.

00:37:01
That's for sure.

00:37:01
I mean, I'm sure you guys deal with people all the time with that and let's job.

00:37:05
It it's deeper than even the food addiction of it.

00:37:08
It's the fact that media also pumps the food addiction to the things.

00:37:12
Like, they know they know what people want.

00:37:15
And so when you follow the money, you know what's going on with that, and it's and it's

00:37:20
hard.

00:37:20
You know, I I I say this all the time.

00:37:22
Like, if you see a ad on a commercial about food, you shouldn't eat that.

00:37:28
Yeah.

00:37:28
I'm with that.

00:37:29
It's very rare unless it's a grocery store that's that's highlighting chicken breast.

00:37:33
Yeah.

00:37:33
You know,

00:37:33
and you're like, that's that's probably pretty good.

00:37:35
You know?

00:37:36
Yeah.

00:37:36
Yeah.

00:37:37
It's a bore

00:37:37
you had

00:37:37
to people.

00:37:38
Right?

00:37:38
Yeah.

00:37:39
Yeah.

00:37:39
The, the one thing that, has as songs just get me sometimes, like, I'm like, ah, man, Maverick

00:37:46
he in particular.

00:37:47
I'm just Yeah.

00:37:48
They're so good, man.

00:37:49
But, somebody said he, if a brand to, like, could sing the McDonald's bet you would fix

00:37:53
something.

00:37:55
We make gratitude.

00:37:58
But,

00:37:59
it it is he's he sings a song closer.

00:38:02
And, when I think about it and I think about this even food.

00:38:05
He's closer than the air we breathe.

00:38:07
And so depending on, you know, what I'm putting into my body is like, wait, if he's closer than

00:38:13
the arabry, then I think of that.

00:38:15
The vibration of every possible being, like, like, he's closer than he resonates within me.

00:38:22
Then, man, I gotta I gotta I gotta be super intentional about what I'm what I'm what I'm

00:38:27
feeding it.

00:38:28
Right?

00:38:28
Yeah.

00:38:29
And so that that's just something that just like, I'm like, that's it.

00:38:32
Like, that's we just gotta be so intentional because he is, I mean, he's literally closer

00:38:39
than the air I breathe.

00:38:40
That is, like, when I breathe in air, what I what I put in my mouth, like, I'm feeding him,

00:38:46
you know.

00:38:47
Feeding the spirit.

00:38:48
Dude, the analogies, like, if you had a house Right?

00:38:50
You guys have sounds like a beautiful home.

00:38:52
Are you gonna build the outside with, you know Yeah.

00:38:54
Plexiglass and fiberglass and plastic?

00:38:56
Or are you gonna build with some solid structure?

00:38:58
And that's what we do when we're eating is we're build up our body.

00:39:00
Right?

00:39:01
That that makes us

00:39:02
up.

00:39:02
Yeah.

00:39:02
So it's like, and this might be the hard truth that people need to hear, but it's like, if

00:39:07
you're not building up your body, you're kinda breaking it down, right, putting these in

00:39:10
mandatory substances in that are gonna just end up causing oxidative stress and and end up

00:39:14
being almost detrimental, right, or not almost they are detrimental to your body.

00:39:19
Not benefiting you in any way.

00:39:20
Yeah.

00:39:20
And I

00:39:21
mean, you're gonna say something?

00:39:22
Yeah.

00:39:22
Yeah.

00:39:22
I could

00:39:23
show off.

00:39:23
I apologize.

00:39:24
No.

00:39:24
I've got

00:39:27
to be no angle.

00:39:28
She's the

00:39:29
discernment here.

00:39:29
It's,

00:39:29
you know, if we

00:39:35
so coming from a faith based perspective, if these are our temples, if we truly believe that

00:39:42
this is the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit, then I think we have to be very careful about

00:39:48
how we treat this temple because we have the choice.

00:39:51
Like, god says this is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

00:39:55
We have the choice of if we actually treat it like a temple or if we don't.

00:40:00
Like, he gives us that free will.

00:40:02
You know, and in in the in the, you know, in a Christian world, a lot of times, like, oh, it's

00:40:10
it's always, like, it's just the spirit.

00:40:13
It's just your spiritual fitness.

00:40:15
And I'm like, there are three hearts to us.

00:40:19
It's we are body.

00:40:21
We are body, mind, and spirit.

00:40:24
Like, we are 3.

00:40:25
You know?

00:40:26
And it's like, I feel like god makes everything.

00:40:28
He's a 3 and 1.

00:40:30
You know?

00:40:30
It's like, we are 3 and 1.

00:40:32
We are body, mind, and spirit.

00:40:35
So I think we have to be really intentional with how what we are feeding each of those

00:40:40
things, just we're feeding the spirit.

00:40:42
And this is something I'm gonna just I'll share this, and I haven't actually shared this in a

00:40:47
podcast or public setting, but it's thing that I've been, like, brewing and I've just been

00:40:51
processing this because, we were

00:40:54
recently, just in a

00:40:54
conversation with someone who had, you know, had their Bible sitting on the table in front

00:41:01
of them.

00:41:02
Great.

00:41:02
You know, just a display of

00:41:04
Sure.

00:41:04
This is what I believe.

00:41:05
Here's my Bible.

00:41:06
I'm gonna put this up, and I'm gonna show everyone what I'm what I'm feeding my spirit.

00:41:11
I want everybody to know that this is what I'm feeding my spirit.

00:41:15
Would we be so bold as

00:41:16
to do that same thing with what we're feeding our mind

00:41:16
and with what we're eating our body.

00:41:23
Would we hold it up for everybody to see?

00:41:26
Would we hold it up and be like, look at this is what I'm putting to my mind.

00:41:30
This is what I'm consuming with my mind.

00:41:32
And look, this is what I'm consuming and putting into my body.

00:41:35
So I just I know that's just like a, you know, to me, it was like it was even a check for me

00:41:41
of, like, would I be so bold as the things that I'm putting into my body.

00:41:45
Am I proud of that?

00:41:47
Am I so bold as to say, look at this.

00:41:49
Look at this.

00:41:49
So I just think, you know, especially to brothers and sisters Christ.

00:41:53
It's like, take a look at that.

00:41:55
We walk around and you can hold your Bible up and that's awesome.

00:41:58
Nothing wrong with that.

00:41:59
That's a beautiful bold display of your faith.

00:42:03
Are we so bold to do that with the things that you're putting into your body?

00:42:07
Are the are those glorifying the lord too and is what you're putting in your mind glorifying

00:42:11
the lord too?

00:42:12
I'm on.

00:42:13
Yeah.

00:42:13
Yeah.

00:42:14
That's huge.

00:42:14
Steward stewardship.

00:42:16
Mhmm.

00:42:16
Steward chip at the mine.

00:42:17
Again, soul

00:42:18
fit.

00:42:18
Yes.

00:42:19
Soul fit.

00:42:20
Soul fit.

00:42:21
Yeah.

00:42:21
Take take it a a deeper, you know, even to go real nerdy with this, you know, and and

00:42:26
biblical or non biblical, regardless if you're a believer or not, here's the reality of the

00:42:31
when it comes to food.

00:42:33
And this is the stuff that I look at because we need to look at pain points as well when it

00:42:37
comes to the choices that we're making every single day.

00:42:40
We associate things like drug and alcohol to something negative.

00:42:44
Right?

00:42:44
Mhmm.

00:42:45
If you do too many of those things and I'm totally, like, don't do any of But if you do

00:42:49
too much of those things, it can become a massive addiction and massive problems within

00:42:53
your relationships, death, all of that.

00:42:56
Okay?

00:42:56
Except for the issue is with food, we celebrate with it.

00:43:01
We use it as an emotional escape.

00:43:03
We use it for pain.

00:43:05
And it's not looked at as the same.

00:43:07
Yeah.

00:43:08
Right?

00:43:09
Except for, like, when you look at the statistics of what food and obesity does, with

00:43:14
death rate and productivity and all the things, like, dude, it's like 6 or 7 of the top 10

00:43:19
killers in America come from choices, controllable choices with food and just moving

00:43:27
more.

00:43:27
Like, god created our bodies to move and to work.

00:43:30
To move.

00:43:31
You know?

00:43:31
And and it doesn't mean that you can't have a cheat meal every once in a while.

00:43:34
That's not what we're saying either.

00:43:35
It's not perfection.

00:43:36
Absolutely.

00:43:37
But at the same time, like, are you eating a bag of chips every night before bed?

00:43:42
And then the meal before that, you're having some ice cream and some pizza.

00:43:45
And the meal before that, it it becomes, you know, you become what you start eating, and

00:43:50
and and I see

00:43:50
people spiral in a way.

00:43:54
And you see the physical change, but even more importantly, and I talk about this all the

00:43:58
time, what happens to your mental state?

00:44:01
When you are eating poorly and and what it does, you just are not going to be able to

00:44:08
drive that vehicle at its top speed.

00:44:09
You're just not.

00:44:10
No.

00:44:11
Yeah.

00:44:11
I mean, brain foggy, you got in you got neuroinflammation.

00:44:14
You can't you're not sharp.

00:44:16
Right?

00:44:16
And you're you're tired at 2:30 in the afternoon.

00:44:18
I get the average American.

00:44:20
You know

00:44:20
what I mean?

00:44:21
Yeah.

00:44:21
Yeah.

00:44:21
Yeah.

00:44:22
I keep I I do.

00:44:23
I work really hard.

00:44:24
Yeah.

00:44:24
And I I get that way, but, I mean, at the same time, it's like, I you know, if I wasn't making

00:44:29
those good choices, what, you know, you know, what what are the alternative facts?

00:44:33
Yeah.

00:44:33
I think most people don't really even know what it feels like be healthy.

00:44:36
You said this is the very beginning.

00:44:37
Right?

00:44:37
It's like, most people are living at this, like, pretty, like, below average or maybe,

00:44:41
like, subpar level, and that's what normal to them.

00:44:43
Yeah.

00:44:43
Then they finally make some better choice that they're like, what?

00:44:46
Yeah.

00:44:47
I feel fantastic.

00:44:48
Like, I could feel like this.

00:44:49
They're like, this is available to us.

00:44:51
It's like, heck, yeah, man.

00:44:52
Like, your your body's gonna thrive off of that, right, and

00:44:54
your self image, your confidence, your energy, your focus, how you're with your kids, how you

00:44:58
are with your parents.

00:44:59
Like, it all trickles down.

00:45:01
Like, god gave us this.

00:45:02
He gave us this to be able to utilize.

00:45:05
Yeah, man.

00:45:05
You know?

00:45:06
And that's that's, you know, I just encourage people just start making better choices 1 by 1.

00:45:10
Yeah.

00:45:11
Would just add.

00:45:12
I think when we when we take care of our bodies, it also means taking care of our

00:45:16
brains, you know, because what you're what you're putting in impacts everything, But I

00:45:20
think one of the ways the enemy can get in, you know, get in and prevent people from being

00:45:24
their most effective and efficient at the plans and purposes that god has for the life It's not

00:45:29
that god can use this in any form.

00:45:31
So I don't want anybody to take that as like, I can, you know, I can be unhealthy and still you

00:45:36
know, do god's plans, purposes.

00:45:39
Absolutely.

00:45:40
100%.

00:45:41
But will we be our most efficient and effective when we're not feeling well when we're sick

00:45:46
when we're focused on disease.

00:45:48
And now what we gotta do with this disease?

00:45:50
Like, when you're sick, the only thing, like, it's a major focus anybody that I know that has

00:45:55
diseases and sicknesses, it's like it is a takes a massive amount of energy to focus on

00:46:01
the businesses that you have.

00:46:02
Yeah.

00:46:02
And I think that takes away from being able to focus on the things those plans and purposes

00:46:07
that god has.

00:46:08
It's not the you can't do things, but I firmly believe we can be our most effective and our

00:46:13
most efficient when we're actually living in a body and and have a mind that is clear and that

00:46:19
functions at a high level.

00:46:21
And I'll just even say, like, we were talking gluttony, I I mean, when food being someone

00:46:26
that comes from a background of I had compulsive overeating issue for years.

00:46:32
And as soon as I would eat, I would be thinking about what I was gonna eat now.

00:46:37
Yeah.

00:46:37
So I understand what that's like to have your mind so focused on food that even when you're

00:46:43
full and even when ve eaten, you're you're immediately thinking of the next thing that

00:46:47
you're gonna eat.

00:46:48
And when we have something that is consuming our mind like that and not the lord.

00:46:52
It's a form of idolry.

00:46:54
And so people, you know, it's it's not something that's fun to hear, but it's like, if

00:46:59
food is what your mind consumed with.

00:47:01
And, you know, it doesn't mean like, oh, I really like this.

00:47:04
It's I'm talking about you know what I'm talking about if this is something that you

00:47:08
struggle with.

00:47:09
It is it is when you are already thinking about what's next.

00:47:12
What can I eat?

00:47:13
What can I eat?

00:47:14
What can I eat?

00:47:14
I totally get that set.

00:47:16
It's something that the lord freed me of, like, literally switched the brain neurons in my

00:47:24
brain.

00:47:24
So I don't even think about that anymore, but it's because I surrendered it to him.

00:47:29
But it it was a form of idolatry because it was something that was pulling away from my focus

00:47:35
on him.

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00:48:14
I love that.

00:48:14
I I same here.

00:48:16
So I have the some of the one of the same stories.

00:48:19
I literally looked.

00:48:19
So I I have a post coming out in the next couple days, but that I was £235.

00:48:24
I'm a £190 right now.

00:48:26
So that's 27 versus 38.

00:48:28
235 everything.

00:48:31
I literally was looking at everyone else's plate to see what they did need so I could put

00:48:36
it on my plate either a bit.

00:48:38
Like, literally, I'd do that all time on family.

00:48:39
I'd be like, alright, I'll finish that.

00:48:41
They call me the human garbage like disposal because I would like literally eat just

00:48:45
nonstop.

00:48:46
I'd just be like, I'm housing.

00:48:48
But there there comes a point in that where it's complete surrender that it was actually

00:48:53
one of the lowest part of my life.

00:48:54
It it was just eating, eating, eating, and working through other things that I just

00:48:58
recently post about that I'm like, y'all take take take take the wheel.

00:49:02
You know?

00:49:03
I I need you to take the wheel.

00:49:05
And, man, it's, it's been one of those things since where now my mind's how am I optimally

00:49:11
thinking of longevity, something that I could do the rest of my life where it then doesn't

00:49:17
become a point.

00:49:17
We're working through a guy right now that he's going through some health concerns, but now

00:49:22
you're focusing on business as soon as it comes to health, I gotta put fire out.

00:49:26
I gotta I gotta figure it out.

00:49:27
It, like, it's it's my health.

00:49:28
I I might not have tomorrow, right?

00:49:30
It's a fire.

00:49:30
It's a fire.

00:49:31
It's a fire.

00:49:32
But, like, I don't really you know, do I focus?

00:49:35
Yeah.

00:49:35
Of course, something could happen to me, you know, but I keep my body.

00:49:38
Anything can happen, but I really, it's not gonna be a fire because I'm still disciplined

00:49:43
in approach of, like, what's best for this for the temple that I'm trying to preserve and be a

00:49:47
good steward of.

00:49:48
And what did you just describe?

00:49:49
So you were £230 or £190 now.

00:49:52
So, you know, you're talking £45 difference right there.

00:49:55
Right?

00:49:55
Yeah.

00:49:56
Where were you living at £235?

00:49:59
I was at Washington.

00:50:00
They say

00:50:01
No.

00:50:01
You were living in bondage.

00:50:02
Hold on.

00:50:03
You were living in bondage in Washington.

00:50:06
You're literally 100%.

00:50:07
You are literally living in your freedom now, and that's what we're speaking on.

00:50:11
Yeah.

00:50:12
We want people to have that freedom.

00:50:14
Yeah.

00:50:14
The freedom of literally going, hey, man, do you wanna go, like, hike a mountain today?

00:50:19
Alright.

00:50:20
Let's go.

00:50:20
Yeah.

00:50:21
I can't.

00:50:21
I can't.

00:50:21
I literally can do anything.

00:50:23
Hey.

00:50:23
I wanna actually park at the back of the parking lot just because I can.

00:50:27
Yeah.

00:50:28
You

00:50:28
know, there are people that every choice they make is about making it as easy as humanly

00:50:34
possible because they are not capable of doing even the smallest of physical things.

00:50:43
Distance.

00:50:43
Right?

00:50:43
People That

00:50:44
that is a real example.

00:50:45
For them, man.

00:50:46
How awful is that real example?

00:50:48
Like, that is something that goes through my wide offer.

00:50:50
Yeah.

00:50:51
Parking the back of the parking lot because it's easy.

00:50:52
It's still I could get it.

00:50:53
Yeah.

00:50:53
You know

00:50:54
what I mean?

00:50:54
There's more parking spots out there.

00:50:56
Yeah.

00:50:56
People will drive in

00:50:57
circles.

00:50:58
Yes.

00:50:58
For, like, wasting 20 to 30 minutes of their life trying to find the closest parking spot.

00:51:03
Yeah.

00:51:04
I mean, that's

00:51:04
it's insane.

00:51:06
That's what we're appealing to on this show.

00:51:07
Ultimately, obviously, we wanna talk to everyone, but, like, is the people who are

00:51:11
looking to, like, make those decisions and make, like, not where I need to be.

00:51:15
How do I level that up?

00:51:16
Right?

00:51:16
Like, what y'all do with people and, you know, and the people who need to hear this hard hard

00:51:21
truth too.

00:51:21
Right?

00:51:22
Offends you, man.

00:51:23
Take take, like, no, why is it happening?

00:51:25
Right?

00:51:25
Dig in a little bit.

00:51:26
Well, I got one more for you.

00:51:31
So, again, just coming from a faith perspective, you know, living a life that is

00:51:36
making healthy choices and and exercise your body, and that requires discipline.

00:51:43
And if we're operating, you know, god tells us that he has given us a spirit of power and love

00:51:52
and self discipline.

00:51:53
That's the spirit that he gave us.

00:51:56
Self discipline is the spirit that he gave us.

00:51:59
So if we are choosing undisciplined lifestyle habits, we're literally operating a spirit that

00:52:06
he did not give us.

00:52:13
Everybody's journey looks a little different.

00:52:15
Yeah.

00:52:16
But if you're saying I can't live a disciplined lifestyle, but you're saying you have a walk

00:52:21
with the lord.

00:52:22
Like, if you if you're walking in the spirit he gave you, it is a spirit of self discipline.

00:52:28
Massive.

00:52:29
That's huge.

00:52:30
So this is gonna be an 8 hour podcast.

00:52:32
We have better.

00:52:33
We could talk 2 hours on this topic.

00:52:36
We are going, but

00:52:37
this is where this is gonna go because I think this is a great, great segue to this is

00:52:43
alright.

00:52:43
So we have the individual that, of course, like lack of set there's a lot of people out like

00:52:48
that.

00:52:48
But then there's that that that individual that, like, hey, I want to I wanna make that

00:52:52
one right right decision.

00:52:53
Right?

00:52:54
And one thing that we're leading a lot of into right now.

00:52:58
So we're taking our first cohort through a full fuel is is muscle.

00:53:04
And I love some muscle.

00:53:06
And I I'm sitting next to 2, Jack.

00:53:13
And, honestly, dude, I wish

00:53:15
I wish you either keep more

00:53:16
bogings going or shorts.

00:53:17
You know?

00:53:20
Anyways, let's let's talk a little we got we got a little bit of time here.

00:53:24
Let's

00:53:24
talk about muscle because muscle is the absolute longevity mechanism for I mean, come

00:53:33
on.

00:53:33
Let's talk about muscle.

00:53:34
A muscle on VO 2 max.

00:53:36
I think those two things are not only longevity of life, but fullness of

00:53:39
life.

00:53:40
100%.

00:53:40
And so I think when people think of muscle, they think body building and whatnot.

00:53:44
You're building your body.

00:53:46
That's how I like to describe it.

00:53:47
Yep.

00:53:48
So when I look at muscle, I'm do everything that I'm doing, especially as I get older, is

00:53:53
about preserving my muscle and not losing it or wasting it.

00:53:57
That's right.

00:53:57
I've worked so hard because when I have more lean muscle.

00:54:02
My body will burn more at a RMR arresting metabolic rate that I just burn calories

00:54:08
through the day literally doing nothing at all.

00:54:10
You know, so I have to consume so much more food.

00:54:14
People are like, oh, you probably just eat, like, lettuce and all day.

00:54:18
And I'm like, dude, like, I eat, like, eight meals a day and, like, enormous amounts of

00:54:23
food.

00:54:23
To keep that amount of muscle on, but it makes me strong.

00:54:27
And then we go deeper.

00:54:28
We go into the bone and the bone density so we don't have osteoporosis later in life.

00:54:32
We're talking not only from an aesthetic standpoint.

00:54:35
Muscles are cool when you walk into a room.

00:54:37
Of course.

00:54:37
Like, it's cool.

00:54:38
It it shows me discipline.

00:54:40
Shows me a specific type of individual.

00:54:42
I know how that person lives.

00:54:44
Yeah.

00:54:44
Because of where they got to male or female.

00:54:47
Doesn't matter.

00:54:47
Right.

00:54:47
But I also What it also tells me is it tells me it goes, okay.

00:54:52
This individual has made decision and a commitment in their life to walk that walk.

00:54:57
And live that.

00:54:58
And so when I find an individual that I'm not only does that, but aligns with Christ too, I'm

00:55:02
like, dude, they get it.

00:55:04
They get it, you know, and to go really nerdy, and I love going nerdy about this.

00:55:08
And I just found this out.

00:55:09
Like, we know about endorphins.

00:55:11
Mhmm.

00:55:11
But Like, god was, like, really geeky when he decided to create us, and he was like, you know

00:55:16
what?

00:55:16
I'm gonna create these little things called myokines in the muscle.

00:55:19
Yeah.

00:55:20
Little protein.

00:55:21
And and the only way that we're gonna actually be able to secrete these things into the

00:55:25
bloodstream and then go into the brain to give them this, like, anti anxiety medication is

00:55:30
you're gonna have to contract them.

00:55:31
So you're gonna have to work them.

00:55:33
And so I'm thinking I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:55:35
I can just do more curls.

00:55:36
And then I get more of the myokines.

00:55:38
And then I just feel awesome all the time.

00:55:41
And it, like, god is like, yeah.

00:55:43
I put a pharmacy in your mussels, dude.

00:55:44
So you don't ever take a pill.

00:55:47
That's my argument for, like, creation

00:55:49
versus, like, bangborough.

00:55:50
Like, dude, look at the complexity of the body.

00:55:52
Right?

00:55:53
Look at the complexity.

00:55:54
And on the the cellular level, and you're like, tell me that, like, we formed from, dude.

00:55:58
Like, I I'll wait.

00:56:00
Like, I'll wait for anyone's Right?

00:56:01
Like, I I just it's unfavorable.

00:56:03
Goes back to when I was eighteen too.

00:56:04
I didn't know the science behind it.

00:56:07
God had thrown me this lifelong I start working out.

00:56:10
And, of course, I wanted the armor of the muscle, but it was so much deeper than that

00:56:14
once it hit my mind.

00:56:15
Yeah.

00:56:15
And I was like, man, I feel good about myself again.

00:56:19
I feel confident.

00:56:20
I have an energy.

00:56:21
I have hope again.

00:56:22
I have a direction.

00:56:23
And so most people think and think of working out is just like this vanity type of aesthetic

00:56:30
type of deal.

00:56:31
Dude, just like churches for me and getting into the word, the workout is same thing.

00:56:36
I'm going there to go heal.

00:56:38
I'm letting go of my stressors.

00:56:40
I'm taking it out on dumbbells.

00:56:42
I'll get down on my and pray, but then I'm gonna go pick some dumbbells up and I'm gonna

00:56:46
work Yeah.

00:56:46
Because he gave me both

00:56:47
of them.

00:56:48
Yeah.

00:56:48
Damn.

00:56:49
That was awesome.

00:56:51
Yeah.

00:56:51
No.

00:56:52
I love, just it we've been, Gabrie Alliance, obviously.

00:56:56
She's been it'd been promoted quite a bit and just talking about how important that is.

00:57:01
And I just, like, it, like, it with the I wouldn't went back at home, just to give you an

00:57:07
example, and was working out with the Kansas City a football player, actually.

00:57:12
I was walking out working out with my buddy Frank Zamba.

00:57:14
Oh, yeah.

00:57:15
And, so we, he's 255, 260.

00:57:18
He's a

00:57:18
linebacker, right?

00:57:21
I think, behind Tom Bali.

00:57:23
Yeah.

00:57:23
Yep.

00:57:24
Maybe it was Justin Houston.

00:57:25
Anyway, one of them went down, so he got he got a little bit of starting time.

00:57:28
But that was even one thing working out with him.

00:57:31
It was, like, driving me a little bit forward because I would like power lifting.

00:57:35
I'm a power lifting a little bit more, recently.

00:57:38
But, like, activating those and just thinking about the longevity mindset of, like, what

00:57:43
muscle does into my forties, into my fifties, into my sixties.

00:57:47
Because if you look at it like in 8 forties, fifties, and sixties, the guys that are

00:57:54
functional and operating at a very high capacity.

00:57:57
You know, as much as I would love for my dad to be more mobile, like, I'm looking at him in his

00:58:03
late sixties, and I'm looking at other guys.

00:58:05
And I'm like, you stopped.

00:58:06
Like, dad, you stopped.

00:58:08
And and this guy didn't.

00:58:10
And and this is, he's, like, super muscular.

00:58:12
I followed this guy on Instagram.

00:58:14
I forget his name.

00:58:14
But I'm, like, very muscular.

00:58:16
He's a crossfit guy.

00:58:17
And I'm like, that's that's what you can like, if you maintain it and then not not that too

00:58:22
late.

00:58:23
But if you maintain it and that level of discipline, you can operate well into your

00:58:27
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00:59:12
Yeah.

00:59:13
I wanna talk about women too with

00:59:15
this because

00:59:16
it's Even more important.

00:59:18
Yeah.

00:59:18
Yeah.

00:59:18
Because the thing is I think the men, you know, they get it as far as Yeah.

00:59:23
You know, we want muscle.

00:59:24
I most of what I work with nowadays is women in their forties, fifties, and sixties, and it's

00:59:29
what I try to drill into them is, like, we have to stop focusing on the scale, and you're gonna

00:59:36
go, oh, I gotta do this diet.

00:59:38
Every time you do this diet and you get on the treadmill and you just do tons of cardio and

00:59:42
you diet, you're losing lean body mass.

00:59:45
And then you're wondering why you're gaining weight so quickly, like, as soon as you're

00:59:50
done.

00:59:50
And so many women are still afraid of the weights.

00:59:53
And, you know, even even people that we work with.

00:59:56
It's like, they get into this group with strength training.

00:59:58
I'm like, you literally have to do this for the rest of your life.

01:00:02
Yeah.

01:00:02
I'm not like, it's not, oh, I'm I'm taking time.

01:00:05
Like, obviously, we have rest days, but as a part of your lifestyle, if you want to be your

01:00:10
strongest, you want to, you know, it's more than what you look like.

01:00:14
That's a nice bonus side effect.

01:00:16
Absolutely.

01:00:17
But if you want to prevent diseases and osteoporosis and sarcopenia and so like, so

01:00:24
many, like, cancers and all of these things are linked to lower lean body mass.

01:00:28
You know, you're gonna die sooner if you have less body mass.

01:00:31
But, but women, I I really want them to get through this through their mind of, like, get

01:00:37
off get off the treadmill.

01:00:38
And go hit the weights.

01:00:40
And it's I just I want them to be more empowered in in a gym setting or whether it's

01:00:45
at home, but, this is what we just see 2.

01:00:48
I see it all the time, especially women that are starting to go through menopausal

01:00:53
transitions in their lives.

01:00:54
It's like, if you want to go through that with the greatest ease that is possible, then focus

01:01:00
on maintaining and building as much lean body mass as you You're not gonna turn into Arnold

01:01:06
Schwarzenegger.

01:01:06
You're not gonna be a body builder.

01:01:08
Never I've know a lot of body builders, and I've never mailed in female.

01:01:12
I've never went met one that was like, whoops.

01:01:16
I am a buyer.

01:01:17
So it looked like body bow now.

01:01:18
Like, it was it was extremely intentional.

01:01:21
It took a lot of work.

01:01:22
Right.

01:01:23
Yeah.

01:01:23
Yeah.

01:01:23
But but that's one thing I just I I want women to understand how important that is for them to

01:01:30
navigate 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s.

01:01:32
And if they'll stay consistent, I'm 46 now.

01:01:35
And it's like, but the the reason that I get to do all the things that I'm not on any

01:01:39
medications, I can go hike a crazy mountain, but it's the reason my body is where it is is

01:01:45
I've been consistent with this for the, you know, the last 18, 20 years of my life too.

01:01:50
So it's, like,

01:01:51
year lifestyle.

01:01:52
Yeah.

01:01:52
So it can't be 12 weeks I worked out, and then I didn't work out the rest of the year.

01:01:56
Like, if you want the major benefits, which there are so me, then then make it a part of

01:02:01
your lifestyle and make it consistent.

01:02:03
And, obviously, it's harder on the front end.

01:02:05
Right?

01:02:05
You gotta put a little more in and you gotta be more front loaded with, like, how often you're

01:02:09
going and all that.

01:02:10
Yeah.

01:02:10
But then, like you said, bro, it just becomes easier on the back end.

01:02:13
It's like, now I just gotta maintain this.

01:02:14
Main maintenance is a lot easier than building and getting to that fitness level.

01:02:18
There.

01:02:18
And once you're there, man, just keep it up.

01:02:21
You're there.

01:02:21
I I think a lot of people are also their intimidated by going to a gym or whatnot.

01:02:25
And I I've talked about this as well, but, like, the people you actually wanna go talk to

01:02:30
in the gym are the ones that are crazy fit.

01:02:33
Those are the ones that will actually take the time with you and be like, I'm I'm awesome.

01:02:39
You're here.

01:02:40
Yeah.

01:02:40
And give and pour into those people that are day ones.

01:02:44
That's right.

01:02:44
I've seen her do it in random gyms around around the country.

01:02:48
I've done it and just taken the time to talk to an individual to give them a second I

01:02:52
understand that intimidation because it's new and you don't feel good about yourself.

01:02:56
Yeah.

01:02:57
You know, but just day by day, start going.

01:02:59
It starts becoming a part of your therapy, not just scale loss, a therapy to get better

01:03:04
connected to the lord.

01:03:05
Lord, I'm committing my lifestyle to this because I know you want me to do this.

01:03:09
Set those accountability places in in in play.

01:03:12
And, I mean, I just want you to reap the benefits of of what working out in eating right

01:03:18
does.

01:03:18
Yeah.

01:03:18
You know?

01:03:19
And as you get deeper into it too.

01:03:21
We get older and think about your family members that, that are out there that, if they

01:03:27
fell and they broke a hip.

01:03:29
Or they broke something.

01:03:31
Have you seen the stats after the age of sixty sixty five from someone who falls and breaks a

01:03:36
hit?

01:03:36
Like, like, they're game over.

01:03:38
Yeah.

01:03:39
Their game over that individual that is strong, even if they were to fall.

01:03:43
Mhmm.

01:03:43
They are able to bounce back because of the lean muscle the strength that they've been

01:03:47
putting in in that lifestyle that they live.

01:03:49
To.

01:03:49
Whereas the other person

01:03:51
falls down.

01:03:51
In the 1st place.

01:03:52
Right?

01:03:52
That's right.

01:03:53
Or they may be in It looks like you're preventing so many.

01:03:56
We have a client that's 90 at hit you right now.

01:03:59
90, and this dude is doing pull ups.

01:04:02
Dude, he's going up and down the stairs.

01:04:04
He invited us to his Christmas party, and he shows us the whole tour of his mansion of a

01:04:08
house.

01:04:08
Upstairs downstairs.

01:04:09
Upstairs downstairs.

01:04:10
And I'm just like, man, like, Fred like goals.

01:04:14
Let's go.

01:04:14
I wanna be Fred.

01:04:15
Yeah.

01:04:15
I wanna be Fred.

01:04:16
So seriously.

01:04:17
Yep.

01:04:17
Yeah.

01:04:17
I mean, that's it.

01:04:18
Livid.

01:04:19
That you said that is really important that I think we should, like, kinda highlight a little

01:04:23
bit is that even when so you're and you touched on this a little bit too.

01:04:27
When you are building muscle mass, right, it's not like VO 2 max and muscle mass are are are

01:04:34
big things.

01:04:35
Now when we hear VO 2 max, which is your max oxygen, need an output is you gotta do a lot of

01:04:42
cardio for that.

01:04:43
Right?

01:04:43
But that's not the reality because when you are building muscle, I I, in particular, I'd love

01:04:48
to hear how you guys work out, but I love super setting because it maintains my heart rate

01:04:53
Mhmm.

01:04:53
While through so that when I get to that, like, next next, I'm, like,

01:04:57
pumping like crazy.

01:04:58
So I'm increasing my VO 2 max.

01:05:00
I'm utilizing that.

01:05:02
And so, like, just to highlight that a little bit of how important it is, but you still can

01:05:07
increase that threshold over time of your VO 2 max And then maybe when you lose some, it's

01:05:12
some some poundage, you know, running might be involved at that point.

01:05:15
But I think it's extremely critical for people to understand that.

01:05:19
Yeah.

01:05:20
That's real I mean, that's a really great point is and a cardio is very beneficial too.

01:05:25
Like, I I love doing, like, outdoor cardio.

01:05:28
I love being outside and whether I'm walking or jogging or whatever it is, it's great for your

01:05:33
mental health.

01:05:34
It's great for your heart and for your lungs.

01:05:35
It's great for when you're on a fat loss journey.

01:05:38
But don't cut out your strength training.

01:05:41
And, you know, and and like a lot of people do, they just you can get great cardio just from

01:05:46
just from your your strength training routines, my point is is really a lot of women.

01:05:52
They start shying away from the weights, and they end up they're just doing cardio and

01:05:56
they've stopped.

01:05:57
They've stopped with the strength training.

01:05:58
So it's yeah.

01:05:59
I don't say that to, like, I'll there's a amazing benefits to cardio too.

01:06:04
I think it's it's your nutrition, strength, training, cardio.

01:06:07
Those are your, you know, those are your those are your big three but don't a lot of women it

01:06:13
tends to become just cardio in the weights.

01:06:16
Yeah.

01:06:16
Just

01:06:16
Just take the take the wayside.

01:06:18
Yeah.

01:06:19
And that's probably a lot of the way that gyms are.

01:06:21
It's all the guys up there with the dumbbells dropping and slam and stuff and, you know, just

01:06:25
culturally, maybe women are a little more intimidated by that.

01:06:29
But I'm not.

01:06:30
But Yeah.

01:06:31
Yeah.

01:06:31
And it's not everyone.

01:06:32
You are clearly a outlier.

01:06:34
Clearly.

01:06:35
Yeah.

01:06:35
At least.

01:06:36
She's been there.

01:06:36
Done that.

01:06:37
That's right.

01:06:37
That's right.

01:06:38
Cool.

01:06:39
Yeah.

01:06:39
Well, I'm

01:06:40
sure you would tell anyone, like, if I if I can do it, you can do it.

01:06:43
Right?

01:06:43
You can just

01:06:43
get out of your own way.

01:06:44
Right?

01:06:44
And,

01:06:44
like, when there's newbies in the gym, like, I I would want them to know, like, everybody's

01:06:50
here because they're focused on themselves.

01:06:51
That's it.

01:06:52
Literally, like, that guy that's on that, he's focused on him.

01:06:55
And if you go up and work out next to him, he literally doesn't care.

01:06:59
Right.

01:06:59
And if you need the equipment, you like, they're, you know, just because they're you

01:07:04
know, in their zone.

01:07:05
It's it's it's all mental.

01:07:07
It's like they literally would not care, and they're amazing humans.

01:07:10
And they are probably glad that you're there trying you know, make your life

01:07:14
better.

01:07:14
He's literally is counting 12.

01:07:16
He's literally thinking about this so smart out now.

01:07:19
Mark, I

01:07:19
say that maybe it's gotta be.

01:07:20
Yeah.

01:07:21
Right.

01:07:21
Certain gyms.

01:07:22
So it depends on the gym.

01:07:23
You guys sound like you've developed a culture that Yeah.

01:07:25
Is probably the opposite of all gyms.

01:07:27
They're a little bit

01:07:27
of whatever college and

01:07:29
stuff for sure.

01:07:29
Yeah.

01:07:30
You had touched on supersets and, you know, as you get more advanced, I mean, drop sets,

01:07:35
century sets, all this stuff to build VO 2 max.

01:07:37
I'm like a big pusher of it.

01:07:39
I do cardio every single morning, and I actually do it fasted because, I do all my

01:07:44
social media content.

01:07:45
So I'm up at, like, 3 in the morning.

01:07:46
Every single morning.

01:07:47
You know?

01:07:48
And my rhythm on my body is, like, literally, you know, I wrote a post about it last night

01:07:52
about, like, the 1st 10 days of the year so far, I have I've waken up 4 an hour or 11 days

01:07:59
now, anywhere between 3 AM 3:22 without alarm.

01:08:04
I never use an alarm ever.

01:08:05
You know, and the body just gets into this rhythm, you know, and and it's amazing what it

01:08:11
does.

01:08:11
So I start with that cardio.

01:08:12
It's when I'm closer the lord.

01:08:14
There's no distractions.

01:08:15
Yeah.

01:08:15
And then I'm able to do all my content too for social media.

01:08:18
It's where my creativity is high.

01:08:20
Yeah.

01:08:20
I like strength training later in the day after a couple of meals But, yeah, man, drop sets and

01:08:25
super sets, and you can just, like, be creative with it.

01:08:29
And, you know, it's kinda one of the craziest things.

01:08:31
It's one of the only paints that's actually positive you.

01:08:33
Yeah.

01:08:34
That's cool.

01:08:34
Do you guys work out together

01:08:36
independently?

01:08:37
What?

01:08:38
We had before, but

01:08:40
Yeah.

01:08:41
Yeah.

01:08:41
I'm a solo.

01:08:42
You're a solo girl.

01:08:44
I was raised.

01:08:44
I was a only child.

01:08:45
I was definitely a solo.

01:08:47
I've yeah.

01:08:48
And I'm alone.

01:08:48
I'm just a lone wolf we actually tried to train together, like, when we very first met, we

01:08:53
really know.

01:08:54
No.

01:08:54
That's, like, we'll be at

01:08:55
least y'all do it.

01:08:56
Yeah.

01:08:56
We do.

01:08:56
We're in the gym together.

01:08:57
It's kinda Yeah.

01:08:59
It's just, like, I mainly like the scrapper on the side just checking my wife out and going,

01:09:04
okay.

01:09:05
This is gonna increase my overall strength by 25% by looking at my wife right now.

01:09:10
Yes.

01:09:10
I heard you.

01:09:11
Pro

01:09:11
science.

01:09:13
So what is that?

01:09:14
Chapter 10?

01:09:15
Oh, very late.

01:09:16
There's 3 to it.

01:09:17
I'm telling you.

01:09:18
Oh, man.

01:09:20
So we have to touch on this.

01:09:21
So we've been over an hour, but we gotta touch on this because there's a big conference coming

01:09:25
up.

01:09:25
Yeah.

01:09:26
Leading level up.

01:09:27
I know it's something I answered you.

01:09:28
And we gotta, we touch on a little bit, but It's January 24th to 26th.

01:09:34
26 to 28.

01:09:36
You're coming.

01:09:37
12.

01:09:37
26.

01:09:38
But 28th.

01:09:38
I got it for 20 4th.

01:09:40
Yeah.

01:09:41
That.

01:09:41
January 26 to 28, some high level speakers, are gonna be there.

01:09:45
Some of your really good friends, that are just gonna come and invest in people.

01:09:49
Tell us where at, what the some highlights that you expect out of it.

01:09:54
I know you got something really cool for the VIPs.

01:09:56
Maybe you wanna share.

01:09:57
Maybe you don't wanna share.

01:09:58
You wanna keep that a secret.

01:09:59
But, tell us, tell us a little bit more about it.

01:10:03
Yeah.

01:10:03
We are super excited about about lean in level up, and it's and it's really the whole concept

01:10:08
of this conference.

01:10:09
Was it it was kind of burst from the retreats that we do because, it's like, we wanted to

01:10:15
create an at work.

01:10:16
People can come in and let's talk about, like, the tough stuff, the stuff that holds us back.

01:10:22
Like, the things that whether it's in our faith in our fitness, our relationships, our

01:10:27
finances, our businesses, or in some area of personal development, you know, we're in a new

01:10:33
year And we intentionally planned it for the for this end of January because that's the time

01:10:39
when most people have already totally given up or forgotten about their their New Year's

01:10:43
resolutions and all the things they were fired up about a couple of weeks ago.

01:10:47
You know, and and statistically, it's only 8% of people that buy the end of the year have

01:10:53
actually achieved the things that they wanted to achieve at the beginning of the year.

01:10:57
So we're like, okay.

01:10:58
We need to help people figure out how are you gonna be part of that 8%.

01:11:02
We wanna be a part of that 8%.

01:11:04
The only way we're gonna do it is if we figure out the things that are holding us back so that

01:11:08
we can get the tools that we need for for breakthrough.

01:11:11
And so that was really the whole point of the conference was let's lean into this hard stuff.

01:11:16
Let's lean into the challenges obstacles, the pains, the trauma, the abuse, the grief, those

01:11:22
things that are just keeping you stuck in these areas of your life, let's get the tools which

01:11:28
it's a we say it's faith and fitness infused because faith and fitness are what I believe

01:11:33
are are wrecking no matter what area of life it is that you are having a that there was a wall

01:11:41
that is holding you back faith and fit are the wrecking ball tools that can help us bust

01:11:46
through those things.

01:11:48
And so that's why we say it's faith and fitness infused.

01:11:50
So we have an incredible god has just been like, you know, we told a little of the story

01:11:55
of how our business partner died, and then we're like, you know, we're committed to this

01:11:59
thing.

01:11:59
And I'm like, I don't know who's gonna speak I don't know who's gonna show up.

01:12:03
Like, it's Tampa.

01:12:04
I don't even know anybody in Tampa now, you know, and god literally has just been like,

01:12:09
plop top up.

01:12:09
Like, these speakers have come.

01:12:11
We have just phenomenal group of people, speakers and coaches, and that are ready to

01:12:17
just pour into people.

01:12:19
And

01:12:19
it's not gonna be a conference where people come and they sit and they just sit there and

01:12:22
listen to a bunch of speakers.

01:12:24
It's like we are making it interactive.

01:12:26
We are we are creating times where they're gonna be able we're creating coaching corners

01:12:31
where people are gonna be able to choose the coaches that they would like to interact with

01:12:35
more, learn more from, a a woman who has become a great friend of mine.

01:12:41
Her name's Alita Reynolds.

01:12:42
She's the president of an organization called women faith, which is like a a huge, huge

01:12:47
women's organization.

01:12:48
I used to go to their conferences back in the day.

01:12:51
She's coming.

01:12:52
We have a great friend of ours, Marcus Colias, and his brother Darren.

01:12:55
We got a bunch of Canadians that are coming down.

01:12:58
Love them.

01:12:58
Canadians.

01:12:59
Oh, we love those Canadians.

01:13:00
So and just, I could go on and on with how we've just gotten these incredible people that

01:13:05
are showing up just ready to pour into people in all of these topics.

01:13:10
Yeah.

01:13:10
So it starts it's, the 26th or 28th the venue is the Westshore Grand Hotel.

01:13:15
Westshore Grand.

01:13:16
Yeah.

01:13:16
And it starts on the Friday evening of 26th, and we'll have, from 6 to 9 that night.

01:13:22
And it's it's gonna be all day Saturday.

01:13:25
We have speakers.

01:13:26
We have breakouts.

01:13:27
We have coaching corners.

01:13:28
We have the exhibitor area where you guys will be people can come and try some nutritious.

01:13:34
Yeah.

01:13:34
Yeah.

01:13:35
Come on.

01:13:35
Good up.

01:13:37
So, yeah, we're super excited that you guys are gonna be there.

01:13:40
And then for our VIP we'll have, we'll have special times with the speakers, but then on

01:13:45
the Sunday, we're gonna do something really cool for our VIP experience, guests.

01:13:50
And because, again, it's faith and fitness, we're doing a a breakfast in the morning.

01:13:55
And then we're actually going over to the MI 40 gym Yes.

01:13:59
We rented a party bus, and we did a party

01:14:03
bus.

01:14:03
Oh, I didn't I am totally worried about the party

01:14:05
bus.

01:14:06
So, yeah, so we have that gym for a couple of hours.

01:14:08
So instead of sitting around post or post conference and having that time of reflection,

01:14:13
we're like, let's

01:14:14
Let's smash some waves.

01:14:16
And it could be anybody of fitness level is absolutely welcome to be there.

01:14:20
So we have we have people that are like, I'm scared, but I'm coming in.

01:14:23
I'm like, you don't literally don't need to be scared.

01:14:25
It's gonna be so fun because we know the gym is such a place of encouragement and empowerment.

01:14:31
So we're like, I don't wanna sit here and just talk.

01:14:33
Let's let's go, like, do some sets together.

01:14:35
And let's talk about what we learned in that environment.

01:14:38
So we're super excited.

01:14:40
It's leaninlevelup.com is website.

01:14:42
And we just, yeah, come on, Tampa.

01:14:45
Come and join us.

01:14:46
Go.

01:14:46
Oh.

01:14:46
She just go

01:14:47
right into the plug in, but, like, tell the listeners before we, you know, start wrapping

01:14:51
up and stuff.

01:14:52
Where can they find you guys on Instagram online?

01:14:54
Obviously lean in level up.com is the conference for this this coming month.

01:14:58
But but Yeah.

01:14:59
Talk about your gym.

01:15:00
Hitchfit.

01:15:01
You can find that at hitchfit.com.

01:15:03
We're both on Instagram.

01:15:05
Main page I use is mister hitchfit.

01:15:07
She uses Diana Shalu, which is, her name on on Instagram.

01:15:10
And then we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, all YouTube.

01:15:14
Treats as well.

01:15:15
Solefit retreat.

01:15:18
Is, our our retreat business.

01:15:20
If you look a pitch fit or sole fit, like, we're just not hard to find.

01:15:23
We've

01:15:24
been around for a minute.

01:15:25
Yeah.

01:15:26
Awesome.

01:15:27
Sounds good.

01:15:27
You wanna wrap this up in the last

01:15:29
I always ask our guest this question.

01:15:30
It kinda became a thing that I like to say because it encompasses kinda what we're doing.

01:15:34
But, you know, when we talk about living full fueled, the name of the show, We have 6 pillars

01:15:38
that we kind of abide by fuel, movement, sleep, mind, work, and spirit.

01:15:43
Right?

01:15:44
And so if you got all those dialed in, you're gonna live in full fueled.

01:15:47
Right?

01:15:48
What does living full fueled look like mean to you guys?

01:15:51
Full fueled is really simple for me.

01:15:54
It is trying to get as much clarity as possible on the purposes that god has in my life and

01:16:01
fulfilling and being idea into that.

01:16:03
And, like and so my choices every day are about becoming the best version I can inside and out.

01:16:10
So that I can fulfill every every everything that he ends up giving me that I need to go out

01:16:15
and be obedient in.

01:16:17
Love in it.

01:16:18
Yeah.

01:16:18
Love that.

01:16:18
Yeah.

01:16:20
I would say full fueled for me just.

01:16:22
I first, when I think of that, I'm like, what do I wanna be full fueled then it's it's the

01:16:26
lord.

01:16:26
It's the Holy Spirit.

01:16:27
It's like because I feel like when that is my priority and I he is my focus and I keep my

01:16:34
eyes on him and let him fill me up.

01:16:36
I'm gonna have overflow for everything else that I need.

01:16:39
That's right.

01:16:39
Yeah.

01:16:40
Boom, crushed it.

01:16:40
Well, you got Thank you so

01:16:42
much for coming.

01:16:43
Like I said, we can all day

01:16:45
on this one, though.

01:16:46
Live full field.

01:16:47
Let Beyond limits.