Gut Health 101: Understanding the Gut-Brain Connection and Healing Leaky Gut
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Gut Health 101: Understanding the Gut-Brain Connection and Healing Leaky Gut

The episode kicks off with an introduction to gut health and a sponsor message. Misconceptions about gut health and the gut-brain axis are clarified, followed by a discussion on stress, leaky gut, and digestion. Issues related to the large intestine and SIBO are examined, alongside personal health stories about bloating and digestive problems. The importance of diet and diagnostic tests for gut health is highlighted. Gut healing protocols and nutrient optimization are explored, with insights into phytonutrients, smoothie recipes, and eating habits. The benefits of fasting for gut and sleep health are discussed, along with healthy snacking options and their impact on mental clarity. (0:00) Introduction to Gut Health and Sponsor Message (2:25) Gut Health Misconceptions and Gut-Brain Axis (5:00) Stress, Leaky Gut, and Digestion Overview (9:46) Large Intestine Issues and SIBO (11:22) Bloating, Digestive Issues, and Personal Health Story (16:00) Diet's Role and Diagnostic Tests for Gut Health (19:15) Closing Remarks and Q&A (20:04) Gut Healing Protocols and Nutrient Optimization (22:20) Phytonutrients, Smoothie Recipes, and Eating Habits (25:34) Fasting for Gut and Sleep Health (26:39) Snacking Options and Mental Clarity (28:21) Preview of Next Episode on Fasting Techniques

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back man.

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just with you.

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Let's, let's dig right in, man.

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Let's go, man.

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Yeah.

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So think we left off last time kind of preembling what we're gonna talk about today.

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Love to get into, like, some gut health topics, man, and kind of why that's so important for

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people.

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Yeah.

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I think it's a it's been a buzzword for a while now.

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You know, your gut health might provide on, like, particular biotics, like, all that, but

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there's a lot of misinformation too.

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Right?

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So unpacking a little bit of that, man, and kind of, I think simplifying it is the biggest

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thing, you know, because because people get lost in the the info, and then that causes

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decision fatigue or, like, freeze.

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And people are like, I was gonna do this, but now I don't even I'm just gonna keep living my

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life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Things gotta have

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Yeah.

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So, you know, the the the big thing, man, is like, your gut is your immune system.

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Right?

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If you don't have good gut health,

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you are not gonna have a properly functioning immune system.

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It's just that they just are linked.

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The original statistic was 80% of your immune system lives in the gut.

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It's actually more than that.

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I think it's showing it's, like, closer, like, by, like, 90%.

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Mhmm.

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We have this gut associated lymphoid tissue called the GALT.

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We have your microbiome, which is comprised of millions of colonies of bacteria.

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And most people hear that and they're like bacteria.

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Bacteria might be like, yes.

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You should.

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Alright.

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They're good guys, though.

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Right?

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And there's you should have, like, small amounts of some bad bacteria too.

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They kinda feed off of each other, and that allows your body to basically be, like, ready

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for invaders.

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You know what I mean?

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So your body's always kind of, like, on the defense, if you will.

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But I mean, what what are let me ask you this.

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What are some of the biggest things you hear or, I guess, questions around, like, gut

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health?

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That the modern person probably has no idea.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's me.

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You you dive into the the deep research

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you know, as you should from a doctor's standpoint, then it's like me that, hey.

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I I wanna feel better on a day to day basis.

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Like, I wanna operate at a very, very high level.

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And, you know, there's I'm working with a few clients right now that I was, like, get into

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the momentum of, like, exercising because exercise, obviously, Peller.

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I think it's that that's what, you you know, kicks things in gear.

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Yeah.

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But the second thing, but really the first thing you focus on, and they're like

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simultaneously, is then the gut.

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It's not even necessarily like your focus of your diet, but you have to have an

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understanding of, like, what is going on that creates a feeling.

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Right?

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And the gut create produces all the feeling.

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Right?

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You could operate alignment, which I'm sure will tap into a little bit later.

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But, you know, for the for me, it's just the the propeller is just like that that activation

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of movement.

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And then what's what then is the gut?

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Like, what is it?

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And you you explained it at a very rudimentary level too as far as what is compromised.

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And then specifically, they got microbiome.

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Yeah.

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And then, you know, as GM quick says, like, your gut is technically your first brain.

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Like, that's what creates all the emotion Right.

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In your body.

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Like, that's gonna dictate how you feel that day.

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And so, like, if your guts, like, off, you're probably gonna feel a little crummy that day,

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and then your attitude probably is, you know, I mean, you could you can dictate that and

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maneuver that a little bit, but, like, your attitude's probably gonna be like, man, I just

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I'm I'm not feeling it today.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And you can't even, like, verbalize it.

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You just something's off.

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You know what it is.

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And I'm glad you said that the gut brain axis, because it's a two way street.

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Right?

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It's not

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just like one influences the other.

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It's back and forth.

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Mhmm.

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So, like, it is synergy.

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You know, a lot of your your positive neurotransmitters from producing the gut, like

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serotonin, dopamine, that kind of stuff Yeah.

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Produced by the colonies of bacteria.

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Right?

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So they digest food.

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They break down food, and they use metabolites to then create those ones or those,

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neurotransmitters.

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Vise versa, you know, and I see this a lot with patients who come in with really high stress.

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Right?

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They're grinding 9 to 5 and their kids at home and their levels are just 10, 10, all the time.

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The levels here.

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And they're like, why do I have diarrhea all the time?

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Why do I have these this, like, feeling of, like, like, like, an uneasy feeling in their

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gut all the time.

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It's, you know, a traditional doctor is gonna just say, oh, you have IBS take this

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medication.

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Like, you know, what's causing that.

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Right?

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IBS is like a psychosomatic thing.

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It's basically your stress levels and and your body being this elevated stress stay for so

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long, disrupts the gut.

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Right?

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And that's what leads to those.

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Like, I'm not to grab my hands.

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I'm so nervous.

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Kind of feeling it.

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You know what I mean?

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But you can't just slap medicine on top of that because you're not really fixing the problem.

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So that's where a lot of what I do is, like, a lot of, like, de stressing and, you know,

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focusing on bouncing the adrenals and hormones and stuff like that.

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But, the biggest thing with that, and and I think what most people don't realize is There's

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this thing.

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There's a, a condition called leaky gut.

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And I'd say, like, 20 years ago was, like, not even talked about.

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Maybe there were some, like, natural doctors.

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Before you segue completely into that, because I know we're gonna be going down Yeah.

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That rabbit trail.

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There is, like, one of the big things for me and maybe kinda gross, but, like, a quick

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measuring tool, you were saying, hey.

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Why do I have diarrhea?

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That is, like, something you should be measuring.

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Right?

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The Bristol chart Yeah.

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It shows you what what you what your poop should look like.

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Right?

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And so when you, like, quit Google search.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And so and what your urine should look like in that color variation of, like, what a healthy

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potentially gut looks like.

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Yeah.

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Now it is gonna vary day to day because there's certain things that you're gonna eat, but at

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the same consistently, if you measured something in a week time frame, you will

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utilize that as a guy because that's a big guy, but then Alright.

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Now, like, going into the leaky gut, you know, though, that's a measuring tool.

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Now how do you fix something like that with high stress?

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Yeah.

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And and I'm glad you said that because, like, a lot of people, what they think is normal is not

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normal.

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Yeah.

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Like, what's normal?

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I just have diarrhea at 10 times a day.

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Like, that for him.

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That was normal.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, dude, like, I'm sorry that you've been my strength.

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Like, I felt terrible, man, because, like, the mainstream doctors had, kinda let him down the

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wrong path.

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Yeah.

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I mean, oh, alright.

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Yeah.

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We can cut that out.

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We can keep going.

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We can throw some stuff.

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That guy on it.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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And, like, so the mainstream doctors have basically led this guy down the like, oh,

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that's just so good.

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Like, here that they put them on all kinds of, like acid blocking, like, stomach things Yeah.

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And

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so I think maybe let's let's break down real quick.

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I can do just, this is, like, what I tell my patients, how your gut works or how it works.

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Right?

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You eat food, most people don't chew their food enough.

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Right?

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And you have salivary amylase is, an enzyme that's in your saliva that is meant to break

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down proteins and kind of pre digest them.

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Because when they hit the gut, they're ready to go.

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I'm co I'm cooperative to this too.

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I just gotta just juggle it in, road, and you know, why I feel so cool is because you didn't

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actually chew your food.

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Yeah.

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And so chewing your food, making sure that that you're getting those enzymes to pre break down

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those, those molecules.

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Then when it gets to the the stomach Right?

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How many how many times should you be chewing?

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I heard 14 to 16 times, and and I think that might even be a fast

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pace.

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Yeah.

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I think I think it's honestly more of, like, a time.

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I've gotta say, it'll be, like, 30 seconds to him, and it is, like, how long you should,

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like, choose something.

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That's a long time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's, like, when you people that they're like, what?

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Like, I would be eating for an hour, which is kinda like how our ancestors used to eat.

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They were, like, rushing to go to work.

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They weren't rushing somewhere.

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They just a kill.

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They killed a

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deer or something.

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They cooked in.

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It was like, let's go.

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Yeah.

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They sat around the fire for hours, who's 8.

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You know what I mean?

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And that's like, Kyle was meant to be at Yeah.

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We're supposed to to really, like, like, get him with with that moment of unity.

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Right?

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It's such a good dopamine release when you can be, like, kinda one with your like that.

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Environment, man.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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But nowadays, it's TV's on.

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We're just shoveling it in to get to the next thing, get to work.

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That's right.

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We're, like, driving or something.

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Like, so, yeah, so we've gotten away from that because that's the first step, man.

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Then when it gets to your stomach, which really technically isn't even the gut, right, your

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stomach is a is a separate entity before you're good.

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You should have the the hydrochloric acid, which is gonna break down that food even

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further, right, like, get it ready.

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That makes it more of like a with that when it goes into the small intestine, which is more of

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a sterile environment, really.

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You don't have a ton of bacteria in your small intestine.

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It's more like, a, like, a transfer tube, but to get you to the large intestine where a lot

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of that absorption happens.

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Yeah.

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Large intestine is where your colonies of, microbiota is is more is, higher.

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Food is still processing through there.

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Like, it's a it's a filtration system.

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It's a small intestine, of extracting certain things before it gets to your gut.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then the large intestines, we're gonna have a lot of that absorption, right?

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Okay.

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It's also where people get a lot of their issues because, like, things like Crohn's

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disease and ulcerative colitis happen in the large intestine.

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Because a lot of times people have so many toxins in the food that your body's not

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absorbing and they're just hanging out It creates inflammation.

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It creates this kind of stress on that that tissue.

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And then, obviously, you can scrape the food, right?

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But, like, the the microbiome should be heavily colonized in the large intestine.

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Now there's something called sibo, small intestinal bacteria overgrowth.

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It's something I see a lot where, you know, people have they're not fully absorbing that

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food and large intestine, and it back tracks a little bit into the small intestine.

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And then you get an overgrowth, right, that's what the more means Cboe, an overgrowth of

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bacteria in your small intestine.

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Which can look like loading, right, couple hours after a meal, you get, like, serious

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bloating Yeah.

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Like indigestion feeling.

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And I always like to differentiate the tube is actually on the the topic we're gonna talk

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about today.

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So I'll just get to it.

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Mhmm.

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Sebo or, like, gut bloating versus, like, stomach bloating.

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Right?

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So if you something and, like, right away or, like, within, like, 10, 15 minutes, you're

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getting bloating.

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That's more like a, stomach acid bubble.

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Like, right?

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Like, the first area that it goes to is is not break sit down Yeah.

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That food start to, like, ferment and create gas and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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Versus 2 hours later, I have bloodied.

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Right?

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So I always ask that.

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Like, when does it load it after, right, after, or later from the meal, even 2 or 3 hours,

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right, depends on a person's transit time.

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But, if that food's just sitting in the small intestine, and there's an overgrowth bacteria,

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and it's creating that kind of, like, fermenting.

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Think of just like something sitting.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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If you came.

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Yeah.

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That's what's happening.

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Got it.

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Inside your body.

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Right?

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So the little personal we were talking earlier about, like, hey, I eat, I eat something, and

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then usually, like, pretty soon I'm going

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to the bathroom.

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Yeah.

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After.

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Yeah.

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That's good, man.

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That means your body's like working.

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It's pushing things out.

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It's like, alright, we got some new stuff in here.

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Let's get the other stuff out.

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Yeah.

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You know, as opposed to people who are like, I feel like every 3 days.

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Yeah.

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Like, dude, you've got you got stuff backing up in there.

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Right?

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And what is happening with that?

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Your body's gonna start reabsorbing some of that.

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Right?

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That's that's when you get some issues.

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Yeah.

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That's like a, that's when inflammation occurs in the body.

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That's when your body is like, it's almost an elongated version, version of septic.

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In a way.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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It's

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a low drip.

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Yeah.

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Like a Yeah.

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Exactly a slow drip.

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That's kinda disgusting to think about when you don't even realize it.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's got you're backed up.

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Yeah.

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It's good to be processing through those.

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And then again, check out the bristle chart because you should be measuring you should be

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taking a peek at your poop.

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Yeah.

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Is it just a mud pie?

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Yeah.

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Is it is it like a complete brick coming out?

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That's not good either.

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Yeah.

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You want it a little bit more softer in nature, a lot but held together.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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You have, like,

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a solid piece that's, like, sausage shapes.

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I mean, we can get

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into it.

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Yeah.

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Just look at the jar.

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Just like I could talk about loop shit too.

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Right?

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As much as that would be funny.

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Yeah.

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But, leaky got the big thing because that, just number 1, and there it, like, is word of an

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anti inflammatory for the body?

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It just naturally it's inflaming the body.

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And you're just you're not feeling good.

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Like, I mean, you're like something's off.

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But a lot of people push through that.

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Yeah.

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And what's crazy about it is like you, you're healthier, you still had leaky gut.

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Yeah.

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So you could be super you could I outward.

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Yeah.

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Thinking that you're super healthy.

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Right.

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And then you're like, man, something's off, and it was gut you you're gut telling you

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ultimately.

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And then, you had you have a you're a really cool process.

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They you went through in order to carriers and share that story.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, mine was more of a stress related thing.

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It was just high levels of stress that was constant kind of like IVF symptoms, and then I

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was just putting stress on my gut to the point that so essentially what leaky gut is, I use

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analogy of kind of like a fence, right, like, thinking of, like, a, like, a fence with, like,

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vertical bars around a playground or something.

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And, you know, obviously a human can't get through it.

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Yeah.

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A soccer ball can't get through it.

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But a tennis ball, you throw it, it'll go through.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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So that's what your gut should be like.

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It be selectively permeable as the term.

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Right?

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It should allow certain things in Oh, no.

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What?

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Small pains of amino acids, right, not full protein.

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Yeah.

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Mic micronutrients, small, macronutrients, like fats and and carbohydrates.

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But it shouldn't let undudges and proteins through, right, like, the soccer ball or like a

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person running at that game.

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Now leaky gut is when, say, like, those bars get stretched apart, right, and they're they're

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open now.

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The or things are getting through.

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And that's because of inflammation, damage, whether that's from toxins, right, things that

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are are straight on the kinda like we talked about thinking episode 1, right, like the

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glyphosate and those pesticides.

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Yeah.

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Very inflammatory on the gut.

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Food sensitivities, right, if someone has, like, an born kind of like sensitivity to eggs

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or dairy or something like that, will inflame the gut as well and the way they got it, you

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know, inflammation does damage, right, the same way you get a cut.

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It turns red, and and it's, it hurts.

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It swells up.

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Same thing happens with our gut, but it breaks down those tight junctions between the cells.

00:14:49
Gotcha.

00:14:49
And that's like opening that that gate or that fence.

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Now people are breaking through, right, or or larger things are passing through into the

00:14:57
blood.

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What happens is when those larger molecules pass into the bloodstream, the body has to do

00:15:03
something with that.

00:15:04
Right?

00:15:04
Yeah.

00:15:05
Our body sees that as an invader, right, so there's this thing called molecular mimicry

00:15:09
where basically your body sees, say, like, an undigested protein similar structure and makeup

00:15:15
to thyroid tissue.

00:15:17
Right?

00:15:17
So your body is attacking that, attacking that, attacking that.

00:15:20
Now it starts attacking your thyroid because they look the same.

00:15:22
Body's gonna always just go towards what it thinks is a foreign matter.

00:15:26
That's kinda what happened to me.

00:15:27
Basically, I was developing antibodies against my own thyroid.

00:15:31
So I had, like, an autoimmune direct condition called Hashimoto's.

00:15:34
What I did what I did was started taking a bunch of direct stuff, thinking like, no,

00:15:38
that's gonna be the solve.

00:15:39
It wasn't because it was coming from the gutted sheet.

00:15:41
Right?

00:15:42
Okay.

00:15:42
It's like we gotta, like, dig deep, man, to get to the root cause of the problem.

00:15:45
Yeah.

00:15:46
A lot of times, it is auto things are governance.

00:15:49
Right?

00:15:49
It's like, what's the first thing is what we put into our body.

00:15:53
Right?

00:15:53
That's like always the the first question that should be asked.

00:15:56
Yeah.

00:15:56
That is ever asked at your mainstream primary care doctors.

00:16:00
Right?

00:16:00
Like Yeah.

00:16:00
Right.

00:16:00
Like, oh, I have this rheumatoid arthritis.

00:16:02
I'll hear some medicine for you.

00:16:04
Or here's let's get you on this pro call of managing your symptoms versus no, why do you

00:16:09
have rheumatoid arthritis?

00:16:11
Why is your body attacking its synovial tissue in the joints?

00:16:14
Right, on a broad scale.

00:16:15
Yeah.

00:16:16
That's the question I ask.

00:16:17
It's like, why?

00:16:17
Take it down.

00:16:18
Why?

00:16:18
Take down.

00:16:19
Why?

00:16:19
Keep going until you find the culprit, which a lot of times is some kind gut related issues.

00:16:25
Yeah.

00:16:26
Yeah.

00:16:27
That's pretty interesting.

00:16:28
I didn't realize that the gut is, like, almost that, you know, it still goes to the largest,

00:16:33
small intestine.

00:16:33
Gets to the gut, but that's where the dispersion of the micronutrients happens, kind

00:16:38
of, to the rest of the body into the cell Yeah.

00:16:40
That then goes through your circulatory system.

00:16:43
It is essentially feeding the rest of the body.

00:16:45
Right?

00:16:45
Yeah.

00:16:46
Like you said earlier, it's kinda like the, the filter or, like, your that that selective

00:16:50
permeability concept is, like, it picks and chooses.

00:16:53
Yeah.

00:16:54
It should get through.

00:16:55
Right?

00:16:55
The healthy gut's gonna allow, you know, what needs to get through nutrients, smaller mean,

00:17:00
acids, micronutrients, all that stuff, and not the bigger undigested things that it's gonna

00:17:05
then excrete.

00:17:05
Right?

00:17:06
Yeah.

00:17:06
And that's when everything's kinda working in these things.

00:17:09
Synergy.

00:17:10
So then I know it probably varies, may maybe a little bit across the board in terms of a

00:17:15
client that comes into your office.

00:17:17
Like, you you diagnose them.

00:17:19
They have leak leaky gut.

00:17:21
You then are asking the why, but then what is a what a 3 things that you essentially do maybe

00:17:28
on the front side of that as protocol Yeah.

00:17:30
To say, hey, these are the next steps in order of what we're gonna because they could be

00:17:35
stressed.

00:17:36
It it might actually not be Yeah.

00:17:38
Either.

00:17:38
It might be actually their eating patterns.

00:17:39
What what are

00:17:40
those maybe top 3 things?

00:17:41
Yeah.

00:17:42
Yeah.

00:17:42
So depending on what the cause is, I always like to have some definite proof, you know,

00:17:47
like, I can make a hypothesis or, like, a diagnosis based on their symptoms.

00:17:52
Yeah.

00:17:52
But I'm gonna run some labs to make sure.

00:17:54
Right?

00:17:54
So there's a a lab I use is specifically for leaky gut.

00:17:58
It's basically testing anti zonulin, which Xonulin is the protein that holds those cells

00:18:03
together, the type junctions they're called.

00:18:05
If you have a lot of an anti zonulin, high anti zone unit score, it means that that zone is

00:18:10
being broken down.

00:18:11
That that barrier is being, more permeate Right?

00:18:15
So allowing things to get in, that is leaky gut.

00:18:17
Yeah.

00:18:17
And so I'd like to see, something like that first.

00:18:21
Maybe a stool test if their symptoms are bad enough.

00:18:23
Mhmm.

00:18:24
And then a food sensitivity test is huge because that's like, hey, how do we get rid of

00:18:29
the bad guys that are causing us?

00:18:31
So when it comes to doing what we call, like, a heal and seal, right, in a heal, the gut, and

00:18:35
seal those type junctions, you gotta get rid of the the the guys first.

00:18:39
So if it's eggs, we gotta we gotta cut eggs completely.

00:18:42
Doesn't mean you can never have eggs in the future.

00:18:44
Right?

00:18:44
We can heal it and get your body back to be able to to process those.

00:18:48
Oh, wow.

00:18:49
Yeah.

00:18:49
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00:19:14
Sensitivities.

00:19:14
It's not like a food allergy.

00:19:15
So We just present with my girls, actually.

00:19:18
Yeah.

00:19:18
Cool.

00:19:18
Yeah.

00:19:18
So we had a analogy.

00:19:20
There was a just a couple of things that we wanted to take a look at, but I didn't I didn't

00:19:24
realize that you can Yeah.

00:19:26
You can actually remove those.

00:19:28
You have a sense?

00:19:28
Yeah.

00:19:29
It takes time.

00:19:30
Right?

00:19:30
Yeah.

00:19:30
It's it's, and, like, diligence.

00:19:33
Right?

00:19:33
So you're probably gonna be avoiding for 6 months to a year, you know, 6 months is is

00:19:38
doable for sure on that.

00:19:39
But, you know, usually it's like, hey, let's just stay off these for a year.

00:19:43
You rerun that food sensitivity test.

00:19:45
Okay.

00:19:45
And then if the the score should be going down, right, basically your body should be not

00:19:50
letting those things into the blood.

00:19:51
Yeah.

00:19:52
Right?

00:19:53
So, yeah, what, you know, honestly, and it's cool that we're, like, gonna be tracking

00:19:57
through some of the points I wanna talk about, but the biggest thing, man, is, taking the

00:20:02
stress off the gut to let it heal.

00:20:04
Yeah.

00:20:04
So most patients come in with a leaky gut or some kind of dysbiosis, we're gonna do, like, a

00:20:09
fat theme kind of protocol, and some fasting, mixing with, like, like, smoothies as opposed

00:20:15
to full meals.

00:20:16
Right?

00:20:17
So do, like, shakes and stuff like that because it's easier on your gut.

00:20:20
Right?

00:20:20
It's already kind of pre digested.

00:20:22
It's not putting stress on the gut to have to break that food down.

00:20:25
But you can still get the nutrients you need.

00:20:27
Right?

00:20:28
And it's all good stuff.

00:20:29
We have a lot of herbs, a lot of, enzymes and detox kind of factors to help, the body pain

00:20:35
while it's healing, you know, and and I'd say it takes a good 3 to 6 months for something to

00:20:41
really, like, heal that up.

00:20:42
Think of it like an injury, but it's an injury that's probably been going on for a long time.

00:20:46
Yeah.

00:20:46
Yeah.

00:20:46
It's a salt after a salt after a salt.

00:20:48
And it depends on the person and the severity of their symptoms.

00:20:51
Yeah.

00:20:52
But huge.

00:20:54
Yeah.

00:20:55
I think that from what what you were saying to that was something I would like to build on in

00:21:01
terms of, like, phytonutrients, but that's it.

00:21:04
That was when I was conceptualizing even nutritious, of how can you how can it be most

00:21:10
optimal, but less evasive on the body.

00:21:13
Yeah.

00:21:13
Right?

00:21:14
And so how do you get something a little bit more quick and efficient, where it's, like,

00:21:19
these ultra processed foods or something that you're putting in your body over and over and

00:21:23
over and over.

00:21:23
End.

00:21:24
I mean, I come from a family that loves stacking.

00:21:26
Yeah.

00:21:26
Right?

00:21:27
And so you're putting all these, like, foreign starches in there, these all these galutins.

00:21:33
2 of my daughters have gluten allergies that we found out that then, or, you know, that

00:21:38
naturally is gonna impact your gut, like, over time.

00:21:40
Right?

00:21:40
Yeah.

00:21:41
Because there's so we we got some blood work done.

00:21:45
But one of the big things, even for me, you say going into a fasted state, that's been huge for

00:21:51
me in protecting my gut, healing that up over time, is, going into a fasted state and then

00:21:57
putting coming out of my fast with less evasive type.

00:22:02
Yeah.

00:22:03
Micronutrients.

00:22:05
You know, I still put some micronutrients on my body out of a fast, but I wanna put, you know,

00:22:09
some vital nutrients, but something that allows me to ease my way out of that fast.

00:22:14
And then into a more macronutrient, you know, high protein dense state.

00:22:20
So talk about like phytonutrients to in terms of that healing, like, your gut, like, what are

00:22:27
what are some of the things that you're putting in this movie?

00:22:30
Yeah.

00:22:30
So I mean, they just yeah.

00:22:32
You know, you wanna avoid, like, a lot of sugars and processed stuff.

00:22:34
So I have a few different recipes that I I will give out to my patients.

00:22:38
I guess one man is things like like blueberry Right?

00:22:40
They have a ton of antioxidants and carbohydrates that are, like, anti oxidant.

00:22:45
Right?

00:22:45
They're gonna scavenge

00:22:46
up the, scavenge up those free

00:22:46
radicals that are causing damage.

00:22:50
Salt on the body.

00:22:51
So things like that.

00:22:53
I use a lot of detox shakes that I I use from a couple different brands, but they it's

00:22:58
basically a formula I I only use good quality stuff too.

00:23:01
I might just grab something off Amazon.

00:23:03
Yeah.

00:23:03
Yeah.

00:23:03
You know, formulated to be easy, but also give your body what it needs to continue while while

00:23:10
on this kind of process or, you know, because the biggest thing with, like, fasting and and

00:23:14
being on, like, a smoothie diet is, like, people feel kinda crappy.

00:23:17
Yeah.

00:23:17
You know, you're not gonna be a little bit hungry.

00:23:19
But if you're getting stuff into your body, that allows you to keep moving, right, all the

00:23:23
vitamins, minerals, everything like that.

00:23:24
Yeah,

00:23:28
to say something about that.

00:23:30
You say a little bit hungry.

00:23:32
That's something that I've been doing for a couple of years now is, like, not eating the

00:23:36
whole plate.

00:23:36
Right?

00:23:37
Yeah.

00:23:37
And there's a I was watching this documentary on these blue zones living to 100 and then this

00:23:42
guy, like, went and studied Blue zones.

00:23:44
And in Japan, I believe it was it was a small island.

00:23:48
I don't remember the exact name, but they had a motto of 80% full stop at 80%.

00:23:54
And so it's okay to be a little bit hungry.

00:23:57
That's one of those things is, like, the American culture is, like, eat till you're to

00:24:02
the brim, right, which puts a lot of stress on your

00:24:07
gut.

00:24:07
Right.

00:24:07
Because it's not, like, your body is only meant for a certain amount.

00:24:11
Right?

00:24:11
Yeah.

00:24:12
And, so, like, to say that, that's okay to be a little hungry.

00:24:16
Yeah.

00:24:17
Yeah.

00:24:17
I

00:24:17
am usually a little bit all the time.

00:24:19
All it does, you know, it's fine.

00:24:22
Exactly.

00:24:23
I'm not hangry, but I'm also, like, right now, I could eat something.

00:24:26
I definitely could eat something right now.

00:24:28
Should probably and then I could probably smash it out.

00:24:31
I mean, a lot of

00:24:32
that's, like, am I hungry or am I just bored?

00:24:35
That's right.

00:24:36
And when we're bored and there's nothing to do, like, we kind of, like, defer to, like, bless

00:24:39
you.

00:24:40
Yeah.

00:24:40
Right?

00:24:40
Like, it's, like, it's, like, part of the culture, man.

00:24:43
Yeah.

00:24:43
Safety.

00:24:44
Right?

00:24:44
Like, when am I gonna have my next meal?

00:24:45
I should just eat now because I

00:24:47
don't know.

00:24:47
Okay to to be a little hungry.

00:24:49
I love that.

00:24:50
And that's the whole thing with fasting, which we're gonna actually get into next episode and

00:24:53
dig in because I know you do fasting.

00:24:55
I I fast.

00:24:56
Almost daily.

00:24:57
Mhmm.

00:24:57
It gives you that reset.

00:24:58
It's like a gut reset.

00:24:59
You know what I mean?

00:25:00
You're you're imagine if you just were doing buy some pros all day, Oh, they're long.

00:25:05
You're just curling.

00:25:06
It's stress.

00:25:07
You're by sucking up the air.

00:25:08
Yeah.

00:25:08
And then you're not gonna be able to.

00:25:10
Right?

00:25:10
Your gut needs a break too.

00:25:12
Right?

00:25:12
It's got muscle tissue.

00:25:13
It has tissue that needs to rest.

00:25:15
Right?

00:25:15
It's always if it's always working and there's energy being put into that system to break down

00:25:19
if you break down through the all day long, of course, it's gonna be stressed.

00:25:21
And, of course, you're gonna have Right?

00:25:23
It needs to take a break.

00:25:25
So fasting is a great way to kinda hit a reset button.

00:25:28
Let your your body kinda clear out the bad stuff.

00:25:31
Like, hey, let's get rid of this.

00:25:32
Can be ready for the next meal.

00:25:34
Right?

00:25:34
Yeah.

00:25:34
Yeah.

00:25:34
That's such a good example.

00:25:36
And as we wrap up this episode up, like, we only visibly can see our external.

00:25:42
Right?

00:25:42
Yep.

00:25:43
And, yeah, if we're freaking racking, the squat, you know, nonstop.

00:25:49
Like, nonstop ordering it out.

00:25:51
Yeah.

00:25:51
Nonstop doing bicep curls.

00:25:53
Like, we'd never leave the gym.

00:25:54
Like, that's what you're essentially doing your body when you're Yeah.

00:25:57
You're eating 4 to five times a day.

00:26:00
And by eating 4 to five times a day, you don't think, oh, well, my major meal groups are

00:26:05
breakfast, lunch, a dinner.

00:26:06
Well, all those snacks you put in between, still making your gut work out you know, all

00:26:12
these things of, like, no, actually, until you get to the point of bed, you're still making.

00:26:16
And then when you go to sleep, You're probably not getting the most optimized sleep, which

00:26:20
that's gonna be another episode that we're gonna be talking about sleep.

00:26:23
Yeah.

00:26:23
Where The whole season.

00:26:25
You actually wanna fast, you know, 3, 4, maybe even 5 hours before you fall asleep, yeah, to

00:26:31
get the most optimized sleep so that your gut is, like, not overworked.

00:26:35
Before you go into a Nocturnal state era, a sleeping state.

00:26:39
Yeah.

00:26:39
So and I'm I'm glad you brought up the snacks, right, because, like, that's a big thing is

00:26:42
people are like, woah, before I I'm people are snacking, right, if they can get their hands

00:26:46
on.

00:26:46
So I've been using the nutritious with my patients who are doing some kind of a diet

00:26:52
modification.

00:26:53
Yeah.

00:26:53
And they ask about what are the snacking options and most people turn to nuts and stuff

00:26:57
like that, which again, like, it's it's a a harder food that your body has to process and

00:27:02
break down.

00:27:02
So I've been using the the packs, the, nutritious pouches, because it's a smoothie.

00:27:08
Filled great stuff, right, and the accents you got mushrooms, which are good for gut, brain,

00:27:13
all of that, everything we just talked about, and it gets people through that midday,

00:27:18
whatever, that they need to get to their next meal.

00:27:20
You know?

00:27:21
But then also, like, keeping you a little bit hungry.

00:27:23
Right?

00:27:23
You're still a little and when you're also here, you work better.

00:27:26
Right.

00:27:26
You want your your more optimized.

00:27:28
Yeah.

00:27:28
Yeah.

00:27:29
So it's like a big thing of just, almost keeping in mind.

00:27:32
I love that, you know, if you have any, say, 80% full.

00:27:35
Like, 80%.

00:27:36
You don't need to max yourself out.

00:27:38
Well, I would challenge anyone to go eat a huge bacon eggs toast breakfast.

00:27:43
Yeah.

00:27:44
Go try to focus on your your work.

00:27:46
Not or fast in the morning, maybe have a little coffee, maybe have just water with some some

00:27:51
lemon or some salt

00:27:51
in it Yeah.

00:27:52
And work.

00:27:53
Where's your brain gonna be working better?

00:27:54
It's when you're fasting.

00:27:55
Right.

00:27:55
Because now most of your energy can go up there.

00:27:57
You got blood flow to the brain, know, I'd like to copy and take a nice little hack to get you

00:28:01
to the fastest Yeah.

00:28:02
It's a neutral, but,

00:28:02
yeah, you're not having to divert as much energy to processing that massive revenues, you

00:28:06
say.

00:28:07
Cool.

00:28:08
Dude, it's phenomenal.

00:28:10
Love it.

00:28:10
Yeah.

00:28:11
Really quality stuff.

00:28:12
I think a lot of takeaways there too.

00:28:13
Yeah.

00:28:13
We see it.

00:28:14
And then just you giving a lot of basic understanding of what things look like.

00:28:19
I think that was that was huge.

00:28:21
What are we what

00:28:22
are we talking about next episode?

00:28:23
Next episode, we're gonna dig in a little bit more to fasting think, kinda like how to do it,

00:28:28
how to start for people who are maybe below timid or or scared at the super month.

00:28:33
Yeah.

00:28:33
And some of the benefits Yeah.

00:28:35
Let's do

00:28:35
it.

00:28:35
Alright, man.

00:28:36
Well, we out at 4 field.

00:28:38
Let's get it, babe.