Gut Health and Protein: Optimizing Absorption, Supplementation, and Testosterone Therapy
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Gut Health and Protein: Optimizing Absorption, Supplementation, and Testosterone Therapy

The episode delves into the critical role of gut health in optimizing protein absorption, setting the stage for a broader discussion on supplementation and biohacks, including the benefits of creatine. It explores the relationship between protein powders, nutrition, and gut health enhancement. The conversation shifts to evaluating pre-workout pump products and the unconventional use of low dose Cialis for workout enhancement. Testosterone optimization therapy (TOT) and the benefits of functional mushrooms are also examined. The episode features sponsor messages from Nutrition Solutions, Alessi Functional Health, and the Optimizers program, concluding with closing remarks.

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(0:00) Ensuring gut health for protein absorption (1:03) Discussing supplementation, biohacks, and creatine benefits (5:03) Protein powder, nutrition, and enhancing gut health (10:40) Evaluating pre-workout pump products and low dose Cialis for workouts (15:25) Testosterone optimization therapy (TOT) and functional mushrooms (23:03) Sponsor: Nutrition Solutions (23:51) Sponsor: Alessi Functional Health (24:44) Sponsor: Optimizers program (25:08) Closing remarks

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You know, when it comes to that absorption and and getting the protein is, like, making sure

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your gut is is healthy too.

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You have the proper enzymes, so, you know, you can almost, like, boost the effectiveness of

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protein with enzymes.

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Welcome to the FullFuel podcast, episode number 56.

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And, you're here with your host, Matt Taack, Doctor Alfred Alessi.

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And we're gonna be talking about some good things today.

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What do we got today, doc?

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Yeah, man.

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You know what I thought would be cool?

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We talk a lot about supplementation, nutrition, things that we try.

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Right?

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Different biohacks, to help optimize and elevate our game.

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And I was like, what if we just went through a list?

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We'll bounce them back and forth to each other and kind of rank what where we find the

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effectiveness, in some of the stuff that we recommend for people and the stuff that we

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tried because you and I are both we we guinea pig stuff.

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We're like, hey.

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This sounds someone recommended this.

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This looks like a good product.

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Let me try it.

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Maybe it's something we cling to long term, maybe not.

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But, I came up with a list of some of the stuff that we've been doing.

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You know, you and I tend to be on the same page with a lot of things.

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So, let's just do it, man.

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Let's I'll I'll go through.

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I'll name something.

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I'll talk about kind of what I've experienced with it, and then I'll give my my

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recommendation.

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And then you tell me you kind of how you see it effectiveness as well.

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And let's say like 1 to 10 scale, right?

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10 being super effective, one being not effective.

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That sound cool.

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104.

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Let's do it.

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1041 to 10.

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All right.

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First thing on the list here I have is creatine.

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Creatine is one of those things, man, that in my opinion, is like everyone should be on.

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It has benefits for building muscle benefits for cognition and focus, obviously benefits for

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energy.

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So it's also been proven to be one of the least side effect risk, safest things out there.

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And it's dirt cheap.

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I mean, you can find it pretty much, you know, for for the most affordable supplement you can

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get out there for a lot of of dose.

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You know, for me, I'd say it's something I'll never stop using.

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I'll always use whether you kind of do a little bit heavier cycles at times, but effectiveness,

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I mean, I'd put it at like a probably like a 7.

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You know, it does what it's intended to do.

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Now you don't feel much from it.

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It's not like you take creatine and you're like buzzing or you notice.

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But I think, you know, long term, if you're on it, you can tell when you're not on it too.

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You feel maybe a little deflated or a little less, a less of that, like, pop that give that

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get up and go.

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What about you?

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What do you think?

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Yeah.

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No.

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I I honestly would put it much higher.

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I think it's one of the most important things.

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Creatine monohydrate, absorbs so quickly into the various, obviously, muscles, for resistance

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training purposes.

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So I think it's man, I'd, you know, I'd put it up there as an 8 or 9, in terms of a

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supplementary thing.

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I think a lot of people just do not they they get inadequate protein sources anyway.

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And so adding that in there is huge.

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And then also, you know, the you you explained it.

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The cognition piece is huge.

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So it it's an it's it essentially a nootropic, in a way.

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I don't think it's completely classified as a nootropic, but definitely has cognitive

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enhancements, properties, that are beneficial.

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So, there's really there's really no reason why it shouldn't be a supplement.

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And, I think, you know, some of the best ones you definitely wanna get a good ones.

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I know I know you have a couple names that use.

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I just use simply creatine.

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But I know you have a really good one that I wanna try out.

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It's more micronized and able to break down a little bit easier, but I highly recommend

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everyone use creatine.

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Yeah.

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Well, there's, like, a patented version called CREAPURE, which is just, like, the purest form

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you can get.

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So I usually recommend that.

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And that can be that can be found in different brands.

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So just look for create a pure, you know, I think people get like if you were to ask, like

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like our parents or something like, hey, what do you think about creatine or what do you know

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about them?

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Oh, the bodybuilder thing.

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Like, you know, like, that's what they know.

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And so people don't understand really what it is.

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It's your body's like primary energy, system for the first, like, 0 to 7 seconds of any kind

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of intense exercise.

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So but again, we talked about it has other benefits as far as, you know, fueling the brain

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and and cognition.

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So everyone should I think everyone should be on it.

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For sure.

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What's the number 2?

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Number 2.

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All right.

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Going down the list here, I have protein powder.

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I know you're going to you're going to love this one.

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You're the protein powder.

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I'm gonna yeah.

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I'm gonna put protein powder up there too, man.

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I mean, I think if you do it right, it can be very effective in, you know, filling the gaps.

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Right?

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If you, if you're trying to get build lean muscle, you're trying to lose weight, protein

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is just the macronutrient that's king.

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So it's hard though on oftentimes to get adequate protein through your diet.

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It's just a lot.

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Right?

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Especially guys like you and you and I were bigger guys.

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We're trying to, you know, eat consume more.

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200, 250 grams of protein a day.

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That's a lot, man.

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You get full.

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You it's getting that down sometimes is not easy.

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So the protein powder, I know you and I use it the same way to kinda fill those gaps or, like,

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like, kind of buy you bridge between meals as well.

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So I'd put it up there, man.

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I'd I'd say 8.

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Right?

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On effectiveness, it's it's doing what it's intended to do.

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And I mean, it's not like you have there's no side effects from it, right?

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It's not like it's not like it's dangerous or anything.

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It's a very safe thing to to do.

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I think you got to watch out for some of the brands that are super funky flavors like the

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Fruity Pebble flavor or whatever.

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There's a bunch of crap in there.

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So going with something that's a little bit more simple, maybe looking for naturally

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sweetened, and then the different types is like the isolate versus the the concentrate.

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So like a whey concentrate is going to have a little bit more carbohydrates, whereas the

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isolate's a little bit more broken down into, like, a pure protein.

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So, what do you what do you got?

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Yeah.

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I would put it up there, you know, just for me, I it's a 10 just because I think that everyone

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should have some sort of supplementary, you know, vice, to add to their fuel and their

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repertoire to maintain muscle mass.

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You know, you and I both agree on this is that muscle mass is everything and getting proper

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amino acids, into your day to day is essential.

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And so utilizing that allows that to happen and allows that to rather efficiently.

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I have 275 gram shakes a day.

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So I have literally 3 scoops of the high ISO 100 hydrolyzed protein.

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I'm a big believer in the hydrolyzed.

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Yes, there are some artificial in there.

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But the thing is it's like broken down for you and that's really where the mush comes into

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play.

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If you can get something into your body that like naturally, like it doesn't take a ton to

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break that thing down.

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That's like added from other like meal groups that you might have.

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Like you're not being overly invasive to your gut, right?

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And so like because that's the big thing.

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If you're eating all the time and you have you're just like consuming chicken all the

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time.

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Right?

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That's gonna be super invasive to just the body, the breakdown, just like, all the food

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going through your, you know, large and small intestines.

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Like, it's it's harsh on it.

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And so if you can get something that can kinda pacify that so that's where I I I I should be

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an ambassador for the ISO 100 because I do completely agree with you.

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Don't go off and get crazy flavors.

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Stick to it.

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Chocolate, vanilla.

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I get the chocolate peanut butter.

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It doesn't have in like an insane amount of fillers in it, but it is so broken down for you

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where I'm easily able to get 75 grams of protein.

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Now you have to say, like, how much of that is bioavailable?

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I'd like, I don't know.

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So let's guesstimate that you're getting actually 75% of that.

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That's why I always over assume and then get 75 grams because it's 25 grams per scoop.

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And then maybe I'm getting locking in, you know, 55 to 60 of those as bioavailability.

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So I highly recommend it, though.

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Find a source that's good for you.

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I like the ones that are gonna be on lower carbohydrates because I like getting my

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carbohydrates from whole food sources.

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Yeah.

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I mean, to to tangent a little bit on that, you know, when it comes to that absorption and and

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getting the protein is, like, making sure your gut is is healthy too.

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You have the proper enzymes, so, you know, you can almost, like, boost the effectiveness of

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protein with enzymes.

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If you're taking some kind of, protease or amylase, enzymes that are gonna help your body

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to actually get that, as well as your other this other stuff you're eating too.

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So and then just making sure you have good gut health.

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That's important.

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Because if not, you're just this stuff's passing in and out, and you're not getting that

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as much.

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Right?

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And then you're kinda wasting money and time.

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But yeah.

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Yeah.

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One thing

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I do wanna quickly add to that is, you know, that's why, like, apple cider vinegar, balsamic

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vinegar, vinegar is actually creates those enzymes as well in the production of that.

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And so just, yeah, getting the traction there, getting the movement in your gut, those are

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really, really important because you don't want to stagnate the process and then you're like,

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you're holding your metabolism isn't working and your thyroid isn't working and then you

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balloon up to, you know, £20 plus that you didn't expect.

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Yeah.

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Honestly, the quick plug, the best enzyme that I've used is called Massymes, and it's from a

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company called Bioptimizers.

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We actually have an affiliate code with them.

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On top of my head, I don't know what it is.

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We'll put it in the show notes for this, the link to that.

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But that's you know, it's a it's a broad spectrum enzyme.

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And, again, mass enzymes, they named it that because it helps you to get as much optimized

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breakdown of of what you're putting into your body.

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So really good product.

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I like that one.

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I I'm on that every day.

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With my higher protein meals and stuff.

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I take that.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Alright.

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Let's go down the list here.

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Next thing I have is pump products.

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So, like, pre workouts that have, like, citrulline, arginine, glycerol, that kind of

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stuff.

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I guess is a little bit more broad than what we were just talking about.

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But I mean, effectiveness, like they're very effective, right?

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You know, you get that pump, which is going to deliver more blood flow to the muscle.

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If you're doing cardiovascular, it's going to just help, you know, to to get more of a

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healthy blood flow going.

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So, you know, I'd put I'd put like a maybe like a 6 or 7 on those.

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It's not like they're going to make or break your workout.

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You missed your pre workout that day.

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Oh, I might as well not go to the gym because I didn't take my pump products.

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It's like that's, you know, I wouldn't say it's that extreme, but I do think they can benefit.

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Right?

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I think you can get a lot out of it.

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So if you use it correctly, what are your thoughts on that?

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Yeah.

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I would completely rollback on.

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I think you probably should be utilizing that, maybe not every day, where, like, you can have

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you know, you maybe you go a couple weeks with it and a couple weeks without, but there's

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there's massive advantages, to it.

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So some of the best ones that we had, our good friend, Corey Van Dorn, who's been on our

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podcast.

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I love I love Transcendence.

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He's put a lot of quality nootropics in there.

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Yeah.

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So Transcendence is a great one.

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I use this great one.

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It's a little bit more natural.

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It's called Amino leaf.

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I really enjoyed Amino leaf.

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That was great.

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I, just used the other day that you had given me.

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And then tick was a a pretty phenomenal product.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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That I enjoyed.

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So I don't know if you have a few others you wanna share, but those were some of the

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probably the top 3 for me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, those are the ones I've been using lately.

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I'm actually looking over at my stack.

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Yeah.

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The I got the the transcendence is probably the you know, our favorite.

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I think the flavor is really good on that.

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Just dosed really well.

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And then authentic as well is is almost like like super dosed.

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That was a guy I met at that Fitfest we did.

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He's a doc, like, a I think he's a pharmacist, but he created this pre workout that's just a a

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butt ton of citrulline in there, man.

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Your your muscles pump up on your first set.

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So really good product too and, like, natural ingredients.

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So I like that one a lot.

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But, overall, I mean, I think, you know, getting some extra blood flow to to the muscles

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is never a bad thing.

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So, cool.

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Alright.

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Let's go.

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Speaking of blood flow, this is one that I've been doing that you have not yet.

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Low dose Cialis.

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Alright?

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Now you might not be able to speak to this, but what I have noticed is in crane, crazy

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vascularity, amazing pumps in the gym even if I'm not taking a pump product, and energy.

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I've noticed, like, more more like denseness in my muscle as well.

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But, you know, lotus Cialis has is basically dilating the the blood vessels.

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So you're gonna deliver more blood flow and oxygen to the muscle, which then as you're

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working out is gonna give you more energy.

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It's gonna deliver everything else, but your recovery is better.

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I've been recovering really well as well.

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I think it's super that first

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hand too, by the way.

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So I've seen the recovery component definitely firsthand.

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I mean, from a hamstring injury to where you were a month ago, insane.

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Yeah.

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I'm never sore.

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I mean, obviously, we do a lot of other stuff too, but, I put that up there, man.

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I put the the the low dose Cialis at, like, maybe like a like an 8.

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Right?

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It's obviously a medical intervention, so it's a little bit more, risk heavy.

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So, you know, you gotta weigh the the side effects there, but, you know, the the

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literature shows, like, it's not it's not the 50, 60 milligrams that guys are taking for ED,

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right, which is, you know, that's the the re that that's the prescribed reason for the drug,

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but they created the low dose CLS to be taken on, like, a daily basis so that, you know, for

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if you don't necessarily have, say, ED, but you wanna be ready.

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Right?

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And that's the thing.

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Obviously, the benefits in that department are are fantastic as well.

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We'll just leave it there.

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But, yeah, I'd say it's highly effective.

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And, overall, you know, it's but but, again, like, if we're talking risk, this one has a

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little bit more risk to go with it as well.

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So, it's not like a natural arginine, citrulline, which is, you know, just gonna

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create nitric oxide.

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Do you wanna speak to that at all, or do you wanna just move on?

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No.

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I can't speak to that.

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I don't use it.

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Alright.

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Fantastic.

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We'll get you on it.

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Alright.

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Here's one that you can speak to next on the list.

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It's gonna be a fun one.

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TRT or TOT, testosterone optimization therapy.

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Massive believer in this.

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I am a massive believer also in the sub q model.

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So I think that there's different different, I guess you'd say derivatives, of it.

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Like, you can get the pellet form, that is a small incision in your spine.

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You can do an oral, or you can do subcutaneous.

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I tend to really get a good cadence of doing every other day.

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So I do direct injection.

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It is you gotta poke yourself.

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So not a lot of guys dude, I did not realize how many guys, like, have a fear of needles.

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I Tyranophobia.

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Don't have a fear of yeah.

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I just don't have that.

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But what is the what is the word?

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Tyranophobia.

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Makes it rhyanophobia why it's called that, but yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's wild.

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So there's a there's a bunch of guys, so you can't you can't get the pellet form.

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I've seen a lot of guys have success with that.

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My I'm a big I mean, massive massive believer in this.

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I mean, I'm I'm been on it since June.

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I kinda, like, have gone through a little bit of trial and error of, like, dosage, when,

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like, what timing.

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You know, mine's in the morning.

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That's when my testosterone levels are naturally gonna be the highest level of

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production.

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So that's when I'm doing it on an every other day basis.

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I get a really good cadence out of that.

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But I'll tell you what, like, in terms of, like, overall energy levels, that and recovery,

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I would say energy level's most important, though, is that I'm able to operate a full day.

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You know?

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Whereas before, I was not operating a full day.

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I would have been at, like, you know, it would have been 25, 30% capacity, to be

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honest with you.

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Your brain was shutting down, like, 2 PM, man.

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I remember you it was brain fog was the biggest thing that we're talking about.

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Huge.

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So, made a massive impact.

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And then, obviously, like, as you carry that into the gym, you're gonna be becoming more

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optimized, and you're gonna be able to recover.

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I'll I'll be honest flat out honest with you, and I've been on a couple podcasts and said

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this.

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One of my biggest things that I've seen from taking testosterone is my first step playing

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basketball.

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I literally did not have, like the first step was, I went away it went away.

00:17:47
Right?

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And so I wouldn't I would just, like, focus on shooting.

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I wouldn't even take it to the hole all that much.

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I literally my first step is completely back.

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Like, I'm able to take guys, like, off a dribble and then get around guys in the lane.

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And I that that's just something I love doing.

00:18:03
I love playing basketball still.

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So when I'm playing on a weekly basis, that has completely changed in terms of, like, how

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maneuvering, in actually playing basketball.

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It's not just focusing, like, you know, just getting my shot.

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And so it's it's been pretty wild, like, really, really wild, though, to see that.

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They kind of, like, be like, dude, I like, you've like, you still got it.

00:18:25
You know what I mean?

00:18:27
Like, yeah.

00:18:27
You got it back, baby.

00:18:30
Got it back.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think, obviously, would you put it 1 to 10

00:18:35
effectiveness?

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I mean, it's a 10 for me.

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My hands down on the chart.

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Yeah.

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It's a 2 perfect.

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I'd say 10 as well.

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I've been on it just maybe a couple of months less than you, but you know, my the way that my

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approach to it was not that I had low testosterone.

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I'm only 32, but I was in a midrange.

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Right?

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And I was like, okay.

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Like, I I listen to and read a lot of Jay Campbell's work and the concept of optimizing

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rather than replacing is just what stuck out to me is, like, how do I optimize this in a

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healthy way, to get it to be as good as it can be rather than, like, you know, wait till the

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in the future.

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Maybe it's low, maybe it's not, but that was my whole point.

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And, you know, you can do it safely.

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We work with the doc.

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Obviously, we have Taylor who's our, we partnered with who who prescribes for us and

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who we use for our optimizers program.

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But if if done correctly and safely and you're getting your test done on a, you know,

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quarterly basis, it's safe, you know, for the most part.

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I think I there's a obviously, a trial and error at the beginning.

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You have to know kinda what dose you're on.

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At the beginning, I was on a dose that was slightly too high, so my level got pretty up

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there.

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I feel amazing.

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Obviously, I feel like a freaking hulk, but we tapered it down a little bit to get to more of,

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like, a, you know, not supernatural dose, more of, like, a normal, I mean, level.

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So, you know, it's been good.

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But guys who are considering it or curious or thinking about it, you have to take a few

00:20:03
things into consideration that it is something that you will more than likely be on forever

00:20:09
long term.

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Right?

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You start messing with your body's natural production of testosterone.

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It's you know, you have to take that into account.

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So there is also a lot of of of stuff that shows it's gonna mess with fertility too.

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So, you know, if you wanna have kids, you just gotta take that all into account.

00:20:28
Right?

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And work with the doc who's really knowledgeable and can guide you through that

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stuff and kinda be on top of everything.

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I think where guys go wrong is they they just start doing it, and they're just like, I'm just

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gonna do it.

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Right?

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And and they don't track.

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You know, I just heard this stat.

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50% of people of men on testosterone are not getting follow-up blood work.

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They just get on it, and that's what they do.

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It's insane.

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And I'm like, that is insane because how do you know what's going on inside your body at that

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point?

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Now you're messing with stuff, and you're not following up.

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So I don't recommend that.

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I think that's dangerous and reckless.

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I think doing it safe, it's a very, very powerful and effective alternative for just

00:21:07
longevity.

00:21:08
Right?

00:21:08
You're gonna boost muscle, energy, focus, all of it.

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So, it's a it's a a ten for me as well.

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Anything else on that?

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No.

00:21:19
That's good.

00:21:20
Cool, man.

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Let's do a couple more here.

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The functional mushrooms I have here.

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Right?

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Like the lion's mane, the cordyceps, the reishi.

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I think they're I love them, man.

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I'm I'm I do mushrooms daily.

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The good kind.

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But, you know, the the lion's mane is is one of those things that's been shown to produce BDNF.

00:21:44
The cordyceps helps with with, you know, your performance.

00:21:48
And then, the Rishi is one that helps with like like like calm and sleep.

00:21:55
So I know we're we're getting a little low on time here.

00:21:57
So real quick, effectiveness, 1 to 10.

00:22:01
You are the mushroom guy, Nudy.

00:22:03
So what do you think?

00:22:10
Yeah.

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I think nootropics are I would say, you know, I go on and off, and it was something that even

00:22:17
you had mentioned.

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I think somebody advised you is that, like, nootropics are meant for stents.

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They're not meant for, like, daily use.

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And so, like, when you're utilizing nootropics, it's like whether whether it be the lion's mane

00:22:31
or even maybe, maybe, psilocybin or whatever it might be that, that they're in really, like,

00:22:39
short shorter stints where you aren't utilizing those.

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And I think that's a lot of programming too is that, like, you you do it for a period and then

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you kinda have a break.

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You give your body a rest, and then you go back on it because your body adapts rather quickly.

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So I would say, you know, it's a 5 or a 6 for me, just dialing in those nootropics, building

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those in.

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But, but then having them in short stint periods.

00:23:02
Right?

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Use them for 6 weeks, maybe get off for 3 or 4 weeks, and then you can hop back on.

00:23:08
Yep.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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That's like everything.

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Our body's gonna get thresholds.

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It's gonna get to a a place where your dose response is is you need more for the same,

00:23:18
benefit.

00:23:18
So that's where you cycle off of stuff and and, make sure you're just, you know, kinda

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listening to your body in that way.

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I'd say I'd I'd put them at, like, a 7.

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I mean, I think they have good benefit.

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You can use them for focus, pre workout, you know, digestion.

00:23:34
Right?

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They are the good the good benefits there.

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So, yeah, overall.

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But I think for time, we'll we'll wrap today with this.

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about.

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