Gut Health Decoded: Probiotics, Dysbiosis, and Unlocking Your Microbiome's Potential
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Gut Health Decoded: Probiotics, Dysbiosis, and Unlocking Your Microbiome's Potential

In this episode, Dr. Alfred Alessi goes in-depth on the critical role of probiotics in maintaining gut health and the importance of advanced testing to uncover hidden imbalances. They explore the key players in the gut microbiome and the potential dangers posed by pathobionts and pathogens. The discussion highlights the connections between dysbiosis and chronic health issues, emphasizing the importance of recognizing leaky gut markers. Sponsored by Alessi Functional Health, the episode provides insights into functional markers and digestive health. Listeners are guided on actionable steps from their personalized gut health reports and accessing their gut health scores. The episode concludes with closing thoughts and contact information.

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(0:00) Introduction and the role of probiotics in gut health (2:00) Uncovering hidden gut imbalances with advanced testing (5:47) Understanding the key players in your gut microbiome (9:30) The dark side of gut bacteria: Pathobionts and pathogens (12:55) Connections between dysbiosis and chronic health issues (14:12) Leaky gut markers and their significance (15:51) Sponsor: Alessi Functional Health (17:21) Functional markers and digestive health insights (20:44) Actionable steps from your personalized gut health report (23:28) How to access your gut health score and special offer (24:25) Closing thoughts and contact information

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Taking a probiotic that's not that's not a fix that's a that's a band aid approach just a more

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natural band aid approach.

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The goal is to find where the imbalances and correct that and so feeding the good guys

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eliminating the bad guys.

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That's what we discuss in our six hour protocol of gut healing.

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And so using things like prebiotics, anti inflammatory foods, but in particular lifestyle

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factors, reducing stress, optimizing sleep, because when we can rebuild that gut ecosystem,

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we don't just eliminate symptoms, but your biology begins to recalibrate, and this is how

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you start to unravel and and undo these negative changes and symptoms that you've had.

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Welcome to Health Decode, your number one source for real health information with your

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host, doctor Alessi and Matt Tack.

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Welcome back to another episode of the Health Decoded podcast.

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I'm your host, doctor Alessi.

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Today, we're gonna pull back the curtain on one of the most powerful diagnostic tools in modern

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functional medicine, what we call the deep gut scan.

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And you can see already I have a report here pulled up on my screen if you're watching this.

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If not I highly recommend you do watch this is very informative report here basically I'm

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going to be going through a sample of this deep gut scan report that we use in clinical

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practice to help uncover what is going on under the hood, if you will.

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And so in this episode, I'm going to take you inside what this report is.

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We'll go through section by section together, so you can see exactly what we look for when

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we're identifying what we call root causes of dysfunction and not just chasing symptoms.

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Things like joint pain, energy, mood, hormones and your immune system are all linked to your

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gut.

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We've talked about this in previous episodes.

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In fact, last episode was a very good episode that we relaunched talking just about this.

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And so you're going to learn really how we uncover the hidden imbalances and how most

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conventional testing actually misses these things, like gut dysbiosis, low bacterial

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diversity, leaky gut, and inflammatory toxins that can then trigger everything from fatigue

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to autoimmune disease.

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So, the end of this episode, you will understand why I say this is the best test and

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really why it's become a cornerstone for nearly every patient we see at Alessi Functional

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Health.

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Because when you fix the gut, you are fixing the foundation.

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So, let's get right into this.

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Let's start with what you're looking at here is basically the overview.

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And so, page one is a summary.

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So you basically get a summary when you take this test of your results.

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So And it's what we call like a bird's eye view, or your gut health snapshot, right?

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So it basically gives you a gut health score.

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Everybody went to school, we all understand that you get a grading system, right?

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And you want to be closer to that 100 to get a good grade.

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And so, you can see here it gives you an overall gut health score based on all the

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different metrics that we are going to dive into here shortly.

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And so, the two key scores we're looking at is number one, your diversity score, and then

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also, again, the gut health score.

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Now, the diversity score tells us how rich your ecosystem is, how many species of bacteria are

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living and working together in your gut.

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Think of it like an Amazon rainforest, where the more species that coexist, the healthier

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and more resilient the system will be.

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But when diversity stops, when we start losing certain species due to stress, antibiotic use,

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poor diet or toxicity, the ecosystem can become fragile, similar to like when a species of

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animal goes extinct, it can affect the entire ecosystem in that area.

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And so there was a study in 2021 published in Nature Microbiology that found reduced

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microbial diversity was linked to everything from metabolic syndrome and autoimmune disease.

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And in that study, they also found that this related to things like neurodegenerative

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disorders like Alzheimer's disease.

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So, this number right here, and this is again on your reports, not just a data point.

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This is a reflection of your biological resilience.

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And then the gut health score is combining metrics from multiple categories like I said,

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microbial balance, how much beneficial versus harmful species you have in your body,

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inflammation markers, and overall functionality of your gut.

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In the clinic, we like to see this number in the 80s.

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I prefer 85 or above.

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A score below 70 tells us the gut is struggling severely, whether that's an infection, poor

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digestion, or again, imbalance in the bacterial terrain.

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And so we can see here this 78, I mean, that's definitely suboptimal, it's under 80.

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And so we would take attention to what things need work.

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Now, if you see a score like this, it doesn't mean that you're broken, you're dying, right?

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It's not the end of the world, but it means that your gut has something going on and it's

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asking for some attention.

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And so, the perspective I always give my patients, conventional medicine is going to

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wait for this score to be bad enough that you have severe issues.

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But with functional medicine as we know, we talk about on the podcast all the time.

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This lets us get a gauge of where you are to get ahead of problems before they possibly

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become worse.

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And so let's get into some of these things on the next few pages here.

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I'm going to get into more of the detail that I think some people are going to appreciate some

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people.

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This might be more than you care to look at either way gonna get into this and so you know

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this section here is what we call the good guys.

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These are probiotic and commensal bacteria.

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And so these are what I like to call like the guardians of your gut.

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Your beneficial bacteria.

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They're probiotic and commensal species that keep inflammation low and your digestion

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strong.

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And so, your immune system is also calm and balanced because of that.

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When these microbes are thriving, you will feel it.

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Your digestion is smooth.

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You don't have those loose or constipated stools.

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You feel more normal, right?

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You are more regimented.

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But when they're depleted, you can start to feel symptoms.

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You can start to feel things unravel.

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And so, let's get into what are some of the power players here, okay?

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And so, if you're looking at the screen, obviously, I will be talking about this if

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you're not watching, but if you are watching, we're going to go through this list here.

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And so, the Bifidobacterium and the lactobacilli, these are like your frontline

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probiotics.

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They're going to support digestion, produce vitamins like B12, K2, and they help to kind of

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crowd out pathogens.

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Low levels of these often correlate with things like constipation, bloating, or a tendency

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towards like food sensitivities.

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Now, when we see these like phaco bacterium Parizanitzi, one of the single most important

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anti inflammatory bacteria in the human gut.

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And so, it produces something called butyrate, which is a short chain fatty acid that actually

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heals your gut lining and fuels your colon cells.

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There was a 2021 study in Cell Host and Microbe Journal found that low phaco bacterium levels

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were strongly associated with Crohn's, depression and obesity.

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Now, let's keep going here.

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Let's look at some more.

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Now, what we get here in this next page, rosaburia, another butyrate producer, it

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actually stabilizes your gut barrier.

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When this is low or missing, we often see leaky gut or we can correlate leaky gut because the

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intestinal wall is becoming more porous.

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And then, we get into things like acromancy.

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Sorry about that.

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The acromancy.

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So, acromancy of Municipila, I always tell patients this one's like your intestinal

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housekeeper.

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It will strengthen the gut, the mucus lining improves your insulin sensitivity, and low

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acromancy often shows up in patients with obesity, type two diabetes, or any type of like

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autoimmune, specifically thyroid disease.

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Now, you know, if you look at this sample report clinically, what does this mean?

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You'll notice some of these species are flagged as below optimal.

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Some are low, some are fine, right?

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And so, again, it's a clue.

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This is not a diagnosis, but it's a map of showing us where your gut ecosystem is and

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where it's out of balance.

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Again, we are base level here.

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We're at the foundation of like these things then can determine a diagnosis, right?

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And so when the good guys are low, the gut is going to lose its natural defense system.

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That's where opportunistic bacteria, yeast and toxins can start taking over.

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It's like firing half the security team in a busy city.

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The chaos will come.

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Right?

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Defund the police.

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You start getting rid of these things.

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The chaos will come.

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And so, this is where functional medicine goes beyond, right?

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Taking a probiotic.

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That's not a fix.

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That's a band aid approach, just a more natural band aid approach.

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The goal is to find where the imbalance is and correct that.

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So feeding the good guys, eliminating the bad guys and that's what we discuss in our six hour

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protocol of gut healing.

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And so using things like prebiotics, anti inflammatory foods, but in particular lifestyle

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factors, reducing stress, optimizing sleep.

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Because when we can rebuild that gut ecosystem, we don't just eliminate symptoms, but your

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biology begins to recalibrate and this is how you start to unravel and undo these negative

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changes and symptoms that you've had.

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And so, this section of the deep gut scan tells us exactly where to start with that rebuilding

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process.

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Now, let's get into what we call like the bad guys, right?

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Pathobionts, pathogens.

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Again, here are more commensals.

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Let me scroll down here.

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So, now you're seeing what we call again these Pathobionts and these reports are great because

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as a non doctor, somebody reading this can still understand a bit of what's going on.

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And so these pathogens or these these overgrowths these are opportunistic bacteria

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that start to crowd out and eliminate some of the good bacteria and then these can begin to

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create again dysfunction and then the symptoms coming from that.

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And so, you know, every gut should have some of these, right?

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It's not that you have, it's not if these are present, it's how much and whether or not your

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beneficial microbes are keeping them in check.

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And so again, that goes back to the balance thing.

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Now, what we are looking at, and again, we'll get a little myopic here, but I'm not going to

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go too crazy with detail, but looking at things like Klebsiella, Enterobacter, when we're

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looking at Citrobacter, these are our pathobioids that can trigger bloating, fatigue,

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inflammation, often tied to autoimmune conditions, things like AS, rheumatoid

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arthritis, more joint based.

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So, if someone has those types of things and they have joint pain, chronic rheumatoid pain,

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they've often not checked the gut if you've gone with Western conventional medicine route

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and they put you on some type of medication which can actually cause toxicity to the gut

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making this worse.

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And that's where people get frustrated.

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People get burnt out on doing the same thing with no change.

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And so there was a study in clinical and experimental immunology 2020 showed that

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molecular mimicry from klebsiella species can actually trigger autoimmune flares.

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Molecular mimicry is when your body thinks one thing is something else.

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And so, your, your cells or immune system starts to attack itself rather than this

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bacteria.

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And so, it's very, it can be very dangerous and it can lead to a lot of really, you know,

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harmful and long term symptoms as well.

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And so, again, this report shows if you're watching on the screen more of these

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pathobionts and pathogenic bacteria.

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And so again, there's you can see how it shows you very cleanly, you're in the green or you're

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in the red.

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Now we know where we need to focus.

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Other things that we would look for things like Clostridium species, which some of them are

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good, some are bad.

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Candida, which is a common fungal overgrowth that we see thrives when good bacteria gets

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depleted.

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So, somebody uses antibiotics a lot.

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They often can get this then Candida overgrowth, which is like a yeast.

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And so, way we read these again is not that, oh, every one of these needs to be eliminated

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completely.

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It's that they need to be within a relative abundance, meaning that there needs to be a

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certain level, but not an overabundance.

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And so, the term dysbiosis, if you're not familiar or I've said that and you're like,

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what is that?

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It's basically where dys meaning, you know, dysfunctional and then biosis with the

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bacteria.

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So, there's an imbalance in that.

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And so, it is linked to things like leaky gut, food sensitivities, anxiety, depression,

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chronic fatigue, or even skin issues like eczema or acne.

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And there was a journal that said in Nature Communications Journal 2021 found that

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dysbiotic microbiomes in adults were correlated with elevated CRP, which is C reactive protein,

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and interleukin six, which are two major inflammatory markers that drive metabolic and

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cardiovascular disease.

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And so, again, we need to understand not just, okay, do we need to focus symptom wise, but

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what's under the hood, what's at the deep level that is then leading to a downstream causing

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symptoms?

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Because if these organisms are producing toxins, that's creating inflammation.

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That's then hijacking your nutrient absorption, your gut's ability to digest and process and

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absorb nutrients that leads to a problem down the road as well.

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And so when these bad guys are dominating, then your gut turns from you know, a guardian a

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healthy ecosystem into more of a battleground where things are attacking each other.

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It's very inflamed.

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And that's where the symptoms kick in.

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So, now that we've seen the good guys, the bad guys, you know, this test does go deeper.

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I'd like to touch on if again, you're following on the screen, this is where it gets pretty

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cool.

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What we call like the leaky gut and the functional restoration piece.

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And so, as we get into this, again, let's scroll here.

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Actually, real quickly, this is cool and this I didn't have this set to talk on, but this is

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great.

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However, we're able to save our a ton of money by doing it in one test as well.

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So, a lot of time saved, lot of money saved, and able to make this a little bit more

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accessible and affordable for people.

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And so, it's definitely helped us to help more people and more people to learn about what's

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going on in their body.

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That was just an aside there.

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And so, again, when we get into some of these leaky gut markers, what we're looking at is

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three things really.

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One is what we call zonulin.

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And so, we're going to go back up to here.

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So, now let's get into some of these things we look towards that are going to tell us what is

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the health of your actual gut lining, the gut barrier, how your body is being affected by

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Alright.

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Welcome back.

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Thank you for that.

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Now let's get into this.

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Okay?

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So, again, the the three markers we're gonna look for when it comes to figuring out whether

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you have confirmed leaky gut or what's going on with the gut lining.

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Number one is called zonulin.

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This is basically the protein that controls the tight junctions between your intestinal cells.

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Think of your lining of your gut like a fence that's has metal bars and zonulin being the

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pieces that hold those together.

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When it gets affected, those start to open wider.

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Now, more things can leak into the gut, into the bloodstream, and it becomes more porous,

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allowing things like toxins, food particles, bacteria to now leak into your bloodstream.

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And that's what we call leaky gut or intestinal permeability.

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And so, a journal in Frontiers in Immunology 2020 linked elevated zonulin with autoimmune

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thyroid disease, celiac disease, metabolic syndrome, and we have seen this, I mean, it's

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ten out of ten times in our office, somebody comes in with thyroid autoimmunity that's been

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confirmed with blood work, we test the gut and we find zonulin is out of control, leaky gut,

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and now we know, hey, all the thyroid meds in the world are not going to fix this, we need to

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fix your gut.

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Another marker is something called calprotectin, an inflammatory protein released

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by neutrophils, which are white blood cells.

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High levels here point to active gut inflammation, sometimes even like early

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inflammatory bowel disease like Crohn's or ulcerative colitis.

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And then the third one is secretory IgA, immunoglobulin A.

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It's your gut's first line of immune defense.

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Basically like an antibody shield in your intestinal wall.

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When this is low, your immune system is burned out and overwhelmed.

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And when it's high, it's fighting something.

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So, either way, high or low, it gives us data, it gives us insight.

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Some of the other digestive function markers are things like these metabolites, right?

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And so, these are able to tell us how well you're actually digesting and absorbing food,

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is your body processing these things.

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Pancreatic elastase tells us how strong your digestive enzyme output is.

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If it's low, then you're not breaking down proteins and fats efficiently.

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Beta glucuronidase helps us understand detox and hormone recirculation.

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When it's too high, your body is reabsorbing toxins and used estrogen instead of eliminating

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them.

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And this is where then downstream hormonal imbalances can occur.

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And so, those short chain fatty acids like butyrate, acetate and propionate, these are

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basically your gut's anti inflammatory currency.

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Low levels of these mean beneficial bacteria aren't producing enough fuel for your colonic

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cells.

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There was a study in the American Journal of Gastroenterology 2022 found that low butyrate

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producing bacteria directly correlate with metabolic inflammation and impaired insulin

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sensitivity, or metabolic syndrome diabetes, prediabetes.

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And so, you come connecting the dots here, when you combine inflammation, leaky gut, low short

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chain fatty acids and weak digestion, you get this perfect storm as to why people have so

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many chronic conditions.

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And this is why we use this deep gut scan.

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It's not just to find what's wrong, but the design is actually how to fix it.

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And this is a really cool test because I'm going to show you now in this next part, it

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basically takes all of and obviously there's, you know, the docs, the doctors view of this

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too comes into effect, but it takes all of that analysis that it did and it makes

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recommendations as to what bacteria we should be using, right?

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Should we increase this, reduce this?

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What's like what species need help or assistance?

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It also makes recommendations on what foods to eat more of, what foods to avoid, certain

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probiotics or supplements that you can use.

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It also recommends lifestyle changes like diet type, increasing fiber, maybe going ketogenic

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based on some of these bacterial trends.

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And again, the test itself is never going to eliminate the conscious mind of a doctor.

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However, it can help to provide some insight for the doctor to then make more specialized

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and personalized recommendations for the patient.

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And so, you know, an example is like ketogenic diet is going to enhance neurovascular function

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and improve achromancy levels, which we talked about earlier as a key anti inflammatory

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species in your gut.

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And so, you know, the other thing is that I love about this test is if you want, I mean,

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there are a million sources in here for different references to probiotics and what

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they do foods and how they affect the gut supplements, and even like prebiotics and

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lifestyle changes.

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So, so many studies went into creating this amazing test.

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That's why we've decided to use it within our clinic to get amazing results with our

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patients.

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And now, again, what the test does is it gives us data.

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This is one of our core tools to get insight as to what is going on.

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And then from there, what do we do?

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And that's where we can personalize with functional medicine, a plan to help someone get

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from inflamed leaky gut poor digestion hormone imbalance back to vibrant full health energy

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levels and mood.

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And so, I always like to share if you've been chasing any of these symptoms if any of this

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kind of rung true to you, and you want to finally understand what your body's trying to

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tell you, this is where you'd start inside your gut.

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If you're interested in doing this deep gut scan and getting a personalized gut health

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score like you saw on on this this video, visit us at alessifunctionalhealth.com/gut.

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When you fix the gut, you truly fix the foundation and everything else from there.

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That's how we grow the message.

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That's how we change more lives and ultimately help more people to create that ripple effect

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and that impact outward.

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who's experienced this, gone through this journey and had great results and want share

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resources page, you can learn more about our approach to nutrition, cutting edge therapies

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and functional medicine.

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Alessi, and I'll see you on the next one.

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