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Welcome to Practice Talk,
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a podcast for Healthcare Practitioners seeking business support, information, and connection.
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I'm your host, Jesse and I'm thrilled to have you here today.
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Through my online programs and personalized guidance, I help practitioners and
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On this show, we will be interviewing inspiring professionals who
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On our
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Today, we meet with Doctor Alfred Alese of Alese
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Functional Health.
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Doctor Olese is an integrative health practitioner, doctor of functional nutrition,
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and
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a corrective chiropractic care specialist with over a decade of experience in the world of
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health and wellness.
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Doctor Olese found chiropractic through his own personal experience, and I'll let him
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tell you about that on this episode of practice
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talk.
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Yeah.
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Nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you.
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Nice to
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meet you.
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How's it going?
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Nice to meet you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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We have a we do a couple of things here.
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Me and my wife also have, like, a parenting podcast we do.
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So multifunctional.
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Yeah.
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I like your background as well.
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I like the blue.
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Shit.
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Yeah.
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I'm just in the lobby of my office.
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So
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Oh, awesome.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sweet.
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Well, tell me a little bit about your practice.
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Yeah, man.
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I'm looking here in Tampa.
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Mostly corrected care.
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Biophysics based kind of clinic, but over the last couple of years, I've added a ton to the
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office.
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Yeah.
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I know decompression, softwave therapy, just problems an associate doc who does acupuncture
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and cupping and that kind
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of stuff.
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And then we had a a room in the back that was, like, more of, like, a, like, a rehab
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stretching area, but
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we
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turned it into a spa.
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So it's got a sauna in it now.
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So yeah.
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Nice.
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A little different.
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Definitely the big thing down here, man.
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Everyone's doing cold plunge.
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So Yeah.
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No.
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That's good.
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I've never I I mean, I haven't so far talked to a chiropractic slash functional medicine clinic
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that has a cold plunge in there.
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That's that's awesome.
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I would do it if I was there.
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So
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dude, we do, like, a membership, a hundred bucks.
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People get signed up for monthly, and they just yeah.
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School.
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That's super cool.
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Yeah.
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That's why I was researching your your clinic, but I saw that, yeah, one of your your
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chiropractors is acupuncture.
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I mean, and it looked like in one of the photos, you had another, either maybe they were
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a therapist or maybe they were just, like, management, in one of your photos, another
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gentleman.
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Oh, that's my office manager.
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Yeah.
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Sweet.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sweet.
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That's really cool.
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So I also like to ask an icebreaker question that's kind of out of the blue.
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If, imagine that your medical practice was a superhero or that you were a superhero in
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medicine, what superpower would you choose to have and why?
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Yeah.
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So I actually was listening to one of your other shows and
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you asked
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this question.
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So I was kinda, you know, prepared for it.
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Good.
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That's a lot of people don't, and they're just like,
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oh gosh.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be a little different than probably most people's answers, but mine would be Jesus,
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man.
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And that's because, you know, I think he's the ultimate healer.
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Right?
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And
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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You, yeah.
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So I am Christian and and we're a faith based practice too.
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You walk in here and you know kind of the thing and and that, you know, my my hands are doing
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the work, but it's only because they were delivered.
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Right?
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So, Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'd say that would be it, man.
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Just
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Well, I mean, I think eve even from a non religious perspective,
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like, the the story of Jesus and what he did and and just the way he carried on his life, I
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think that's something that every medical practitioner
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could hope to be as a as a light for their patients.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that's
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really cool.
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That's really cool.
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Well, so you you built this practice as functional medicine practice.
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You have it it looks like a a little bit
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of like, nutrition work in there?
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Do I see that as well?
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Yeah.
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I do see that, you know, blood testing and nutrition consultations, and and we use a lot
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of supplements.
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So, you know, definitely holistic approach as opposed to additional western medicine.
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When people get fed up with that that model of just take medicine for this and then the
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symptoms that come from that take medicine for that, it's just doesn't work.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You're just you're chasing something, but you're never really looking within at the real
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cause.
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That's right.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Also, how how did you get into medicine?
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How did you start practicing?
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I was always an athlete growing up and, you know, neck, neck, injuries here and
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there.
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I always go into you know, PT or or the the family doc.
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And I felt like it was always kinda like, okay.
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But, you know, that that made me wanna, like, figure stuff out on my own too.
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And then it it was probably more so in college where I was playing, you know, collegiate
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lacrosse and wanted to optimize my performance and my health and started getting into
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supplementation and, you know, the kind of bio hacks.
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How can I hack my, you know, better at stuff?
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But I was, like, more of a natural approach.
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And then it was actually at after college, I had a pretty nasty shoulder injury, grade 5
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separation.
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I mean, just dawned.
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Totally tore up, playing playing lacrosse.
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Yeah.
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And had multiple surgeries, nerve damage,
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all kind of stuff.
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And you know, the surgeries went well.
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I was able to use my arm, but I just had this chronic lingering pain that I couldn't get rid
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of.
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This,
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like Okay.
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Nervy, itchy.
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Yeah.
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Just got there, man.
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It wouldn't go away.
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Starting to really affect my life.
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So I was was referred to a chiropractor by a friend of mine, and I went and saw him.
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And, I mean, within, I wanna say, 6 weeks, pain free, full range of motion, function of the
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shoulder.
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We did laser chiropractic, some functional neurology, really cool stuff.
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And I was like, alright.
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This is awesome.
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At the time, I was enrolled in PT school.
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I was gonna go.
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I was
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an exercise science major.
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I was gonna go into PT school, and I totally rerouted to, chiropractic.
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And
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then Wow.
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Yeah.
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That was the journey.
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That's actually a really cool story because I I know for, again, for a lot of people, a lot of
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people that experienced PT had experienced chiropractic around this, like, a similar time.
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So it's it's actually really interesting that it took so long for you to get, like, referred
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or to see a chiropractor since you had already been doing PT, I'm assuming, like, high school
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college again, like, when you were when you were in athletics.
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So, like, that that's actually really interesting.
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It took that long, but then also the profound impact that had really shows the difference of
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the benefits of PT versus chiropractic.
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Like, yeah.
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Like, I'll I get a lot of people.
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They go hand in hand, like, one refers to the other, and it's like a similar, like, a similar
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timeline of that healing journey.
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So that's actually a really interesting, a really interesting take because, yeah, like,
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you were in PT school and, like, actually, especially for what you needed for your nerve
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pain, like, and and that nerve mind body connection that I think chiropractic really
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stimulates,
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that's phenomenal.
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And, yeah, obviously, like, PTs are phenomenal as well and especially with just the
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strengthening and the understanding of the different muscles ligaments,
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how they move together and building that movement back up and especially in extremities,
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very insanely beneficial, but awesome chiropractic story.
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Yeah.
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No.
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It was nothing against PT.
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Right?
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But it was like it wasn't working for me.
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I had done
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it, man, for months after the surgeries and stuff, and it just I wasn't touching it.
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And so I just was like, try something else.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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Definitely.
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And I had a a similar a similar situation with, again, like, with headaches and, like, neck,
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neck, shoulder, upper back strength.
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Or it's like, yes.
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We are strengthening the muscles.
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But underlying that were probably some patterns that just needed to be
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readjusted to be kicked to be, yeah, fired into gear.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That's awesome.
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So so
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Do you focus on a particular demographic of patient or, yeah, like, what is
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what are the demographics that you typically see in terms of, like, types of injury and or,
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like, focus of your of your
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marketing, or do you have a pretty general focus?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'd say we can we can help anyone honestly that comes in.
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Yeah.
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I treat some children.
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I treat some elderly people, but, you know, the the typical chiropractic demographic tends to
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be people
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40 to 60.
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Maybe mostly sedentary.
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We do see a lot of active people as well.
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Mhmm.
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Tampa's pretty kinda outdoors the active place, especially lately.
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But we actually, I I kinda focus on multiple niches, you know, and I think that's cool
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because we're able to target different needs.
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Yep.
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But under the same roof, help people, and there's a lot of crossover.
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So, you know, as far as, like, the marketing, we I'm a corrective care specialist.
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That's what I do.
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Chiropractic biophysics, spinal curve restoration.
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That's our like, my bread and butter, what I was
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trained on.
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But then we added spinal decompression for those nagging disc injuries.
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We added soft wave therapy, which is a an awesome modality for extremities and nerves.
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Right?
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So
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sometimes people comes in thinking they need one thing and my job as the doctors to be like,
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hey.
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Let's try this too.
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I think this is gonna help or maybe this instead, right, and kind of figuring out for
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them what works best and ultimately serving the patient in that way.
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Yeah.
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I I think that's super important as a doctor.
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Medicine is always changing.
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There's always there's always new techniques
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to learn, and it's not a replacement.
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Again, like you said, for your bread and butter for the thing
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that you know works for most people, but it's those outliers and saying, okay.
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If this isn't working for you, is there something that I've learned or something that I
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can use to help those patients?
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I'm seeing actually, like, there there's this demographic of patients that I see where it's
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like there's There's just something extra that they need.
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Like, what is that extra thing?
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And a lot of times we can also refer to other practitioners as we build our network, and and
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access their tools, without having to, you know, spend our entire lives and education.
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Like, actually build a practice instead of just being at a desk learning
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for, you know, all day.
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But, yeah.
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No.
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That's that's phenomenal.
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So, basically, mid, like,
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mid range demographic.
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Again, like, a lot of times people that come to chiropractic, it's because they've built up
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these habits.
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I mean, there's either traumas or there's, like, the have, like, the repetitive habits
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that we need to either find the root cause of and and break those habits or help them find
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healthy patterns to offset those habits.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, we're seeing people in their forties, fifties who truthfully should have been coming
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in here 20 10, 20 years ago.
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Yeah.
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But
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not so that the problem becomes enough of an issue that most people are gonna take action.
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Right?
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So I think that's, like, the biggest hurdle probably for us as chiropractors is that
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education piece around why you should engage in chiropractic stretching, you know, exercise all
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these things preventatively rather than, like, let's wait for something to go wrong and then
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take care of it.
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Because at that point, sometimes Yeah.
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You
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know, there's only so much you can do.
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So
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Yeah.
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And that that also tends to be the model in our in our country at least right now with our
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health care system and the culture around health care is, like, if I have to pay out a
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pocket for it, I'm gonna wait until I'm, like, crawling.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And
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that's the other thing, man, is so much, like, reliance on insurance.
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Right?
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And so, like, these alternative therapies don't get the best coverage with insurance.
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And so that's a lot of what we talk about is how do we Yeah.
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Help people.
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And so we offer discounts and stuff for people when when their insurance doesn't have coverage
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because I'm like, man, are you gonna do what's gonna help your body, or are you gonna do what
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your insurance says you can do?
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Those are very different things.
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And they're not all Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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And it it's it's
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hard, right, because it's really it's a great benefit to be in a network where people can
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find you because you're because you take their insurance, but at the same time, it's it's also
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not
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very great that the insurance company gets to tell doctors what is allowed for their
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patients.
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So, yeah, it's, yeah, it's a struggle.
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It's a struggle on the different pressures of insurance.
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It is.
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Speaking.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of struggles, Well, it has been your biggest struggle as
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a practice owner or some of your biggest struggles.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, I I started this practice with with business partners, which was great because they
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gave me
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a ton of of knowledge and insight and were able to help me along the
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way.
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The biggest struggle was when I when I bought the practice out and took it over full time as
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an as a 100% owner was I didn't know what I didn't know.
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And so there were some calls as far as and a lot of it did have to do with, like,
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collections and insurance and that kind of stuff, but You know, luckily, I I was an
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associate doc for 2 years before I even got into this.
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So I learned a ton, and that was invaluable for for me.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, learning learning sales and how to position myself as
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that authority and as and how do I my my biggest thing that I train my associates on is
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how do we lead that patient from the moment they walk in the door till their last visit
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with maintenance care, which hopefully never is.
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Right?
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But, like, how do Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Experience where we're always guiding them and ahead of them, not waiting for them to have
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concerns and questions.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I I think it was really it's just, like, the learning process, man.
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And not even that it's been the biggest struggle, but it's just, like, time Right?
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How do you over time continue to to grow and and, you know, become, again, become the
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expert?
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Yeah.
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And I'm I'm far I'm not the expert.
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Right?
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I still am learning every single day.
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But Yeah.
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But to a lot of people and their roles, you are, you're you're you're their expert.
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And again, there's there's, you know, like, there's always that next plateau to reach in
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terms of our knowledge, in terms of our ability to use our hands and healing.
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But, yeah, you've you've put in the work to be the for in in a lot of people's lives and to be
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the person that can guide them.
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I think you touched on something really important there, which
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is the the maintenance care, the wellness care.
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A a lot of practices don't
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have systems for that.
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And I I think that's it's huge.
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Right?
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Because, yes, you wanna heal them.
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You you wanna help them with their traumas with whatever the injury is or whatever the pattern
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is, but we always develop new patterns.
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Life is always happening to us.
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And so if you're a doctor that resonates with a person and
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and they don't know and haven't really had the mental framework to think about their wellness,
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it's it's almost like a it's almost like a Hippocratic duty to say
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Hey.
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Like, have you thought about what happens next?
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What happens after that?
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You know, how can I help you in that journey?
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And sometimes, and a lot of times, the answer is gonna be, I I wanna try on my own.
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Again, from, like, normally from, like, a financial and time perspective, Like, everybody
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only has so much time and money and resources.
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So, like, coming into the doctor's office all the time.
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But, again, just setting up a wellness plan that works for them or
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a maintenance care plan that works for them is huge for the for exactly
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for that reason for for them to not set into those old patterns.
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Or, again, if they have a trauma that comes up, whether it's like a a car accident or they fall
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off their bike or a sports injury, their body's gonna be a lot more attuned to be able to
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recover from that if they've been on a wellness and maintenance journey rather than like, okay.
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I fixed the problem.
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I'm good for
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until the next, like, intense pain happens.
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Yeah.
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And we build that we build that into the
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story from the beginning.
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I always say, hey.
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I'm good at what I do.
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I'll get you 75% of the way there.
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I need 25% effort from you.
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Then on the back end of that, when we get into maintenance, it's more on you, less on me, but
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you've got the tools that we've educated you throughout this process that now you know how
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to do these structural stabilizing exercises.
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Right?
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And it's it's very much like you go to the dentist, right, every now and then, but then
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you still gotta brush your teeth.
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Right?
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Like, you gotta do the treatment.
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You you help me or else to run out of your face.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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You can't just go to the dentist once a year and be like, well, I'm good.
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I don't have a toothbrush, but
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yeah.
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Exactly.
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That's funny.
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Wow.
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So you built this practice.
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You you purchased it from your partners full out and
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made it your own.
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You learned again what what you didn't know.
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You didn't know.
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What what's next?
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What's next for Eliacy functional medicine?
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Yeah.
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You know, the goal would be, you
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know, eventually to have multiple locations, throughout Tampa.
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We we're doing something a little different too with,
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that was kinda telling you room that we built into kinda like a spa.
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So I have a podcast myself called Full Fueled, and so we built this coaching kind of platform.
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My my podcast partner and I, where we take guys who are mid thirties through fitness and that
00:17:34
kind of stuff.
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So it's kinda separate from what we're doing here, but we built this this recovery room kind
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of in tandem with that.
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And so the goal is to have a bigger facility one day too where we can add more services,
00:17:44
maybe add some massage therapists, make it kind of like a know, like, a, like, a health Mecca
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where people can come in and say, everything you need under one roof, you know, pick and
00:17:52
choose what you wanna do kind of thing.
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So that's, you know, that that goal is probably the next, maybe, 6 to 12 months where we're
00:18:00
gonna start really trying to trying to work towards that.
00:18:03
So Wow.
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Excuse me really quick while I write down that podcast.
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Full, fully fueled.
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Full fueled.
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Full fueled.
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Okay.
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So I'm I'm really interested in it.
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I feel like and also for any of the, the doctors or practitioners listening to this,
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just being able to see someone's journey through that that health, right, that through
00:18:22
that process.
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I mean, I'm in my mid thirties, and I'm relatively active, because I have kids.
00:18:28
Right?
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But I'm again, it's hard for me with with the business.
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With the family being a parent, like, finding the time to fit in a habitual exercise routine.
00:18:37
So I'd, like, I I play around with things, but it would be awesome to be to have that support
00:18:41
and also see other people's journeys around that same age group because that's I feel like
00:18:46
that's when health really starts to matter in terms of the
00:18:50
habits that you start to really integrate into your life is gonna carry into your forties,
00:18:50
fifties, sixties.
00:18:50
So super cool.
00:18:50
Yeah.
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We we
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we preach muscle as longevity, right, if we have adequate muscle in our frame and and, you
00:19:03
know, we get to a fit, healthy life.
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All the guys in the program are are dads.
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I'm pretty sure.
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And so it's, you know, it's a lot of community, which which is what I think separates it from a
00:19:13
lot of these kind of coaching programs out there.
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A really cool community of guys who didn't know each other, and now they're on this online
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forum and everyone's engaging.
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It's just really cool.
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That is super cool.
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And so so more of that, more of, again, even more integrated medicine And I I've I talked
00:19:29
about this on a podcast.
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It's going to be uploaded soon, but we we talked about the benefit of having all of those
00:19:34
practitioners in one place on one EHR system where all of the notes are accessible.
00:19:40
To all the other practitioners because in that health journey, like, that's that can be a huge
00:19:45
hiccup if you're sending stuff to a PT and and it takes your office a week to get it there and
00:19:51
it takes their office 2 weeks to record it and to get it in their system or however,
00:19:55
I, you know, there's always these pitfalls that can happen in communication with the patient's
00:19:55
health.
00:19:55
Yeah, and so the the more practitioners you can have integrated into your clinic I think it
00:20:08
just it offers that extra benefit that patients don't have to get that frustration of waiting
00:20:14
for care, waiting for communication between doctors' offices.
00:20:15
Yeah.
00:20:15
Yeah.
00:20:15
And it's all about what's the what's the level of value we can provide to the people
00:20:16
that need us and that that service and
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we're really good at that.
00:20:24
And we actually even are are bringing a nutritionist on to take over our weight loss
00:20:29
program.
00:20:29
So we had a, you know, built out a kind of a a natural holistic weight loss program to I I
00:20:34
wanna say kinda to counter the whole Ozempic craze that's going on right now or,
00:20:37
like, let
00:20:38
me just make this thing that's gonna help me lose this weight, but it's not sustainable.
00:20:42
So Yeah.
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You know, we've we've got this sustainable weight loss program.
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So I brought on a really good friend of mine who's a nutritionist to run that through our
00:20:48
office.
00:20:48
And so we just, I mean, we have pretty much anything people need, right, to get healthy and
00:20:54
kinda optimize their health, man.
00:20:56
Yeah.
00:20:56
Sweet.
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Sweet.
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I love that.
00:20:58
I love the vision and, obviously, good luck.
00:21:01
Right.
00:21:02
The next 6 to 12 months, I'd I'd love to check back in.
00:21:04
Also, I'll be in, I'll be in Florida in October, Lakeland, Tampa, Orlando area mostly.
00:21:10
So let's let's catch up.
00:21:12
Let's see your coffee.
00:21:15
Yeah.
00:21:15
Yeah.
00:21:16
What kind of coffee do you like?
00:21:17
What's your what's
00:21:18
your good?
00:21:18
I'm I'm a tea guy.
00:21:19
So I do herbal teas and sometimes, like, white teas and and yeah.
00:21:24
Yeah.
00:21:24
I'm people think I'm nuts.
00:21:25
I'm black coffee all day.
00:21:27
Nice.
00:21:28
Nice.
00:21:29
I mean, if I was gonna drink it, I'd probably want it that way too.
00:21:32
I just I never got into it, and it gives me, like, tension headaches if I, yeah,
00:21:37
Yeah.
00:21:37
That's just me.
00:21:38
For sure.
00:21:39
Yeah.
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I don't think my body needs that stimulation purpose of me, like, as my individual body.
00:21:45
Yeah.
00:21:46
Right.
00:21:47
Right.
00:21:47
Nice.
00:21:47
So, last question on my end, if you could give one piece of advice to potential new practice
00:21:52
owners, people stepping into maybe thinking about purchasing the practice from a group of
00:21:57
partners.
00:21:57
What would that what would that advice be?
00:21:58
Yeah.
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I mean, you know, at most chiropractors, we are entrepreneurs.
00:21:58
Right?
00:21:58
I 100% am an
00:22:07
entrepreneur to the point that, you know, I was in over my head, but I figured it out.
00:22:12
Right?
00:22:13
You take on debt.
00:22:14
You you pull credit cards to make it work.
00:22:16
And so I think if you know in your core that you're an entrepreneur and that's your your
00:22:21
personality, and you have the opportunity to do something and I say go for it.
00:22:25
That's my biggest advice.
00:22:27
Don't, like, think, well, I don't know.
00:22:29
Or, you know, I think I think you'd take the risk and do it, man, because there are people
00:22:33
out there that need us, people that need, you know, our expertise.
00:22:36
And I think it's not there yet, but the country is shifting towards that in a way that the
00:22:43
Western Medicine just there's things that it doesn't help with or it doesn't work, and that
00:22:46
model is just kinda odd.
00:22:48
So, yeah, my biggest advice would be, like, if you can help people and you're good at what you
00:22:52
do, then you gotta do it.
00:22:54
Yeah.
00:22:54
No.
00:22:55
I think that makes a ton of sense.
00:22:56
Right?
00:22:57
Like, like, you're you touched on the model that is trying to be it's trying to be an
00:23:02
integrative medicine model, but, really, it's a symptoms model.
00:23:06
And that totally necessary in our society for traumas.
00:23:09
Again, like, think there is a place for it, but then they try to be an integrated medicine.
00:23:14
They try to be a holistic medicine, and it doesn't translate over to what people really
00:23:18
need in their life.
00:23:20
And on the entrepreneurial spirit thing, it is a it is a spirit.
00:23:23
If you have it listened to it.
00:23:25
Yeah.
00:23:25
Listen to it.
00:23:26
Let it guide you.
00:23:28
Dive in.
00:23:28
It's uncomfortable, but also it's okay if that isn't your spirit.
00:23:31
And there's there's still a place for you as a practitioner.
00:23:35
But but, yeah, know yourself.
00:23:36
Dive deep and know yourself.
00:23:38
And if you have that spirit, definitely take the risk.
00:23:41
Follow it.
00:23:42
Yeah.
00:23:42
That's great.
00:23:44
So do you have any other questions for me?
00:23:45
Any way you wanna end the podcast?
00:23:48
Man, no.
00:23:49
This was awesome.
00:23:50
Thank you so much for having me on.
00:23:51
Looking forward to,
00:23:52
and thanks
00:23:52
for being here in
00:23:53
the future.
00:23:54
And and if you're down in Tampa, we'll we'll do something cool.
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