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Why are we still in a state in this country where testosterone is just freaking declining
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in men?
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Is it what's going on?
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It's I
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mean, it's in mental.
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In 2011, a 7 Continent patient population, double blind, placebo, randomized controlled
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trial, came out called the
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Degree University
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Study.
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48 participants, and it was men on every continent.
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And they started in 1974, which is 3 years after I was born, and they concluded and and
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found their findings in 2011.
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In 2011, it was that basically fertility was hacked.
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They also tracked testosterone, but they didn't publish it
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because it wasn't working on what they
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were doing today.
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A free testosterone was more than that.
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It was like 60% now.
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We've got a problem.
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But it wasn't addressed because, again, it's 2011.
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It's not now.
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We don't have the technological log slot.
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We don't have EMS.
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We don't have all this stuff.
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It's more now.
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But the answer to your question is the environment is contamination.
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If you live in a 1st world, you know, concentrated place like Tampa, like LA, like
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New York, like Houston, Seattle, you know, Chicago, Detroit, any of those places, your
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body is overwhelmed.
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Male and female.
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Are endocrine systems are
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just overwhelming.
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Welcome to full fuel podcast.
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What's up, baby?
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What's up, man?
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Welcome back.
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It's good to be here, bro.
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Matter of tag.
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How are you living today, man?
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Oh, dude.
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Full feet.
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Doctor Alfred Lesley.
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We're here.
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Man, I'm I'm pumped for today.
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We have a great guest on the show.
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Somebody with some high level knowledge that they're gonna really break down some really
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cool stuff, really high level information.
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So Jay Campbell is a five time international best selling author, a men's physique champion,
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and founder of the Jay Campbell brand and podcast.
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Jay is recognized as one of the world's leading experts on hormonal optimization and
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therapeutic peptides.
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Jay has dedicated his to teaching men and women how to fully optimize their health while also
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instilling the importance of raising your consciousness.
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His catchphrase razor vibration to optimize your love creation speaks directly toward his
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mission.
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Jay, it's great to have you on the show, man.
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We can't wait to nerd out on everything from testosterone.
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Spirituality, everything in between.
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Now I know you don't hold back from the truth on your show, and that's exactly what we want
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today to be like.
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Thanks for coming down, man.
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Yeah, man.
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Alright, Matt and Alfred.
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I appreciate you guys having me here.
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It's gonna be epic.
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Yes,
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sir.
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It is going to be absolutely epic.
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So I'm gonna start off the first one.
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We obviously listen to a lot of your podcasts.
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So, like, love love what you're doing, but So we truly believe your test is your testimony
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on, the full field podcast.
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It's it's a brand of, like, what we present on our end.
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But I was, listening to one of your it was probably last year, but it was a Julian
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Paulson.
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Oh, yeah.
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Julian.
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Julian's a good friend of mine, man.
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Beautiful.
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Amazing.
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That was an amazing podcast.
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At absolutely unbelievable.
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So I I relistened to that one.
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And I was like, dude, I have to ask you a couple of questions because I think too.
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That's awesome, man.
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No one has ever talked to me about Julian.
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That's, like, so amazing.
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He's literally a living ascended master.
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Real.
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Like, I just loved, love the content out there.
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You guys know he's right now in Purdue in Purdue in Peru living in the Outback,
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essentially, in the Amazon Jungle, building a mon a monastery, an enlightenment monastery.
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No way.
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So when did that happen?
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Because it was, like, that that wasn't something available.
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Probably 2 months after our podcast.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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He left 2 months after our podcast.
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You know,
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just tired of what's happening in this country.
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I mean, that's his goal.
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I mean, his goal is to teach enlightenment, and he's like, you can't teach enlightenment living
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in the modern day world.
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It's impossible.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is, I guess, Peru is a good spot to be
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in.
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Yeah.
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So tell us a little bit about the story of Jay Campbell, and that relatability piece because
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you guys talked about the your story, your narrative, and then the relatability piece.
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And I think you have you built a community around that, your story.
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So if we could give our listeners just the behind of Jay Campbell.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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And, again, it's an honor to be here.
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Thank you guys for inviting me.
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Whenever I get a chance to talk to people who are clearly walking the path as you guys are.
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Julian Bondsen.
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I mean, that's, like, mind blowing.
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But, like, it's a gift.
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So again, I'm humbly grateful to be here with you guys today and, of course, your audience
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too.
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But, I'm the oldest of 9 kids.
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I tell people this truth all the time, and that is my entire family is asleep.
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There's no one in my family awake.
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On the ancient health podcast before we started talking today with Courtney, she was asking me
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about my family.
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And I was like, it's the most incredible thing.
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My dad thinks I'm a drug dealer.
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They don't understand the things I do.
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I'm a complete, you know, outlier black sheep, whatever you wanna call it or whatever.
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And it's like, what I've likened it to is that, like, souls like mine, souls like ours, souls
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like people listening to you guys.
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We come in and we are just blazing our own trail.
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And the most growth, you know, from a evolution of the soul standpoint, happens when you have
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the most So the more in resistance that your family, your brothers and sisters, your
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parents, like, you know, your close circle when you're coming up is to you, the more
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opportunity it gives you for growth.
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Right?
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So, like, I clearly knew at an early age that, like, I mean, it was just I mean, again, I tell
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people six years old.
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I ran out of the back of Catholic church.
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My dad chased me.
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He's like, where are you going?
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And I literally said to him away from that cult.
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That's sick.
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Right?
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So it's like I was awake early, which, you know, just tells me that I've been in this path
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a long time.
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Right?
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There's been many lifetimes probably that I've been playing name, and I'm still coming back
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for whatever reason.
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But, at that point, it was like, okay.
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Now I'm gonna go down the path of, like, I wanna find out what's going on here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, because there's so much BS given to us, you know, through organized religions,
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through politics.
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I mean, everything in the matrix that's organized is obviously structured in a way to
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benefit or not benefit us, but profit off of us.
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Right?
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Like, everything is just profit based in this reality.
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So it's like, I kinda figure that out at a young age, but at the same time, and you guys
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know this is we gotta eat.
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We gotta pay our bills.
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We gotta survive.
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We have to, like, you know, live and get a better life and stuff like that.
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You can't get a better life if you're not eating.
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So, you know, to answer the question, the backstory is, you know, I was like, high school
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and college athlete.
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I played basketball at, yeah, division 2 school.
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At the time, it was NAI.
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And by the time I graduated, it was division 2, but we were a powerhouse.
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It was Georgia, Southwestern University, and America, Georgia.
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And we went to the NAIA national championship and then the division 2 national championship 2
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years in a row.
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And we had ton of ex division 1 guys that just funked out of school or were bad dudes.
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You know what I mean?
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So so, like, we were a legit team.
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No.
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Almost no division 1 school team in the entire state of Georgia would even play us because
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they couldn't losing to it to be be too school.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, I I got a I got a chance to go to Kansas City, which at that time was Kemper
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arena, and I played, like, in the final 4.
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And for 2 years in a row.
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And so then when I graduated from college, I went out with my best friend from high school,
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my senior year high school to California, and I tell people this people don't know this, but I
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got into, like, the film and television industry.
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Right?
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So I was, like, in the movie Forrest company.
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And but, yeah, so I mean, I've done a lot of crazy stuff.
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I I saw I saw what the Hollywood industry was about.
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I was also, like, a featured extra on 902 oh,
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you know,
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I said that all those guys.
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But, like, I, you know, and then I was next thing was, like, modeling and all that stuff.
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So but I was exposed to that element.
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And I knew what was really going on and how it was.
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So, like, I've been telling people.
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I mean, look, never put this on a podcast.
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I'll tell guys right now, and I feel comfortable to say this, but, like, I was
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propositioned.
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I was twenty four years old.
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And I went up into a casting shoot in North Hollywood at this mansion and I went in and was
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literally from South Georgia.
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Right?
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So I'm still talking about this.
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And but I'm a big dude and, you know, in in shape and stuff like that.
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So, like, I play the role of whatever, but, I mean, the role is, like, are you gonna sleep
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with some casting director or producer or whatever, which, again, I was naive as hell,
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but that's what it was.
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Anyway, they came out and they gave me an outfit.
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They're like, try this on.
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And so, you know, again, I'm retarded.
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I put the outfit on and go in.
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And then the next one's like, the the the the one of the casting directors has to see you
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nude.
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And I'm like, dude.
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What does that have to do with
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the role?
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I know, like, hey, man.
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Do you want the do you want the roller that's when the guy said that.
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And then literally, I literally walked the guy right in the guy's face.
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And I said, I mean, I was, like, overwhelmed and in shock, but I was, like, talking like
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that.
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Get you killed where I'm from.
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Right?
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Like, that's kinda what I can say.
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That's what I knew.
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Right?
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And I was like and he was like, I guess gonna have to get killed.
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And he got all bode up with me, and I just thought about just taking him out.
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But I was like, I'm out of here, you know, and I left.
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And I went out back and I sat in my car and drive and wherever I was in North Hollywood and
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I shook for, like, 20 or 30 minutes, but it was at that point I knew instantly, like, what goes
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on in Hollywood.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, No offense to people in Hollywood, but, like, almost every person who's
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ascended the ladder and made it has done not good things.
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Yeah, dude.
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They've sold their soul Yeah.
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They've done some really bad things.
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So, I mean, like, hey, man.
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I'm not I don't have judgment or condemnation of people in what they do in this planet, but,
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like, my soul is sovereign.
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I'm not selling my soul for anything.
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Right?
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So at that point, you know, I shook for a little while, and then I called one of my
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buddies and said, hey, man, I need to get a real job.
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You know, I gotta get into the world to the workforce world.
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So anyway, I was obviously a good communicator, and I just naturally got into sales.
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And I started working for, started doing, direct mail business coupon sales.
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And then from that, I met people and I got involved with the Los Angeles times, and I had
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an amazing job at the LA times.
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And, you know, to fast forward story at 29.
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I got kicked into testicles playing basketball in a very competitive men's open league.
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Wow.
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And no idea what happened, but, you know, check myself out.
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And probably, like, 8 weeks, 7 weeks, whatever.
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Later, I just started feeling absolutely so rundown, so broken.
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And so I was, like, just pure, again, no, coincidences in the universe, only
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synchronicities, but I went to my, PPO doctor that was provided to me at the time.
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This is in 1999 for the LA Times And he saw me and was like, you know what?
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I think you've got something going on with your, hormones.
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He's like, I'm gonna refer you to an endocrinologist.
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And again, Again, this is all synchronicity, but the endocrinologist happened to be like a
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world renowned Harvard educated, endocrinologist by the name Doctor Raymond
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Scruggs.
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And so when he saw me, he took my lab, he's like, dude, look, you got testosterone level of
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a hypogonadal, old person, you know, a geriatric.
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So he's like, I can literally put you on therapeutic testosterone, have you right as
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rain in 8 weeks.
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Now at the time, I didn't know anything about that.
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Had never done anything other than rip fuel, So, like, yeah, remember that's something.
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And so it's like, you know, I was like, you know, he's like, look, take it home, go home,
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discuss it with your fiance.
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It was my first fiance, first wife at the time, shout outs to Kelly.
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And he was like, you know, find out if she's okay with it.
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And then if you are, I'll put you on it.
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Promise it'll be 8 to 10 weeks, and it'll be amazing.
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So I was like, okay.
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So talk to her.
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And she's like, you're smart guy.
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Oh, let's do it.
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Didn't have kids.
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Didn't matter.
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So he sent me the testosterone, funny story around my first injection, which I sometimes
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share with, and I was literally the first time I sat there for 2 hours, like, how I gonna do
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this all day?
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And my wife walked up to me at the time where I wife to be Kelly.
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She walked up to me.
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She was like, what's the matter with you?
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And she just took it out of my hand, injected into my quad.
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I was like, Yeah.
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I didn't I realized it didn't hurt.
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I was
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like, oh, wow.
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We're overcoming my ejection bullshit.
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But true story, 8 weeks later, I started feeling, oh, man.
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So I went in from my checkup with him, and he was like, okay.
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You know, I can take you off.
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I was like, woah.
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Hell no.
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I'll let this go over.
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This is life changing.
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So from that moment forward, I became very studious.
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You know, I started reading everything I could, find about it, which at the time, in 1999,
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2000, there was nothing.
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Yeah.
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It was Bulgaria strength textbooks.
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So you
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have to be able to read Russian or Bulgarian, and they have a lot of stuff on using
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therapeutic testosterone.
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But outside that, there was testosterone man's guide, which came out in 2004.
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There was Michael Mooney and the guy that wrote testosterone man's guide, which Nelson Virgil,
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who, by the way, ended up helping me with my first book.
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They wrote the book because they were dying of AIDS.
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They had an HIV at that time.
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Diagnosis.
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And back then, they didn't know they thought it was a death sentence.
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Yeah.
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So they were experimenting with testosterone, growth hormone, decodermal, and all these
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different drugs to, like, stay alive.
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Yeah.
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And so that was the only information out there.
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So, like, over the next 10 years, I was reading underground forums, anything I
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could get to find out more
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about testosterone.
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And, of course, that same time period.
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I was also experimenting with peptides.
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I was experimenting pretty much with everything.
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I was a human guinea pig.
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I was, like I say, an OG by biohacker.
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Yeah.
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Or or anybody even knew what a bio hacker meant.
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Right?
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Like, I tell people I started using Hip Umbrella in 2004 and they just look at me,
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like, Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They
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So, literally, think about that 20 years I've been using peptides.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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The average people don't even know anything about peptides still.
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Yeah.
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So, anyway, that was all a blessing for me.
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And then eventually, one of my good friends, who's very famous person, I'll just say his
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name, Mike Cernovich, if you guys know him from, like, the conservative the side of
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things.
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He's like a big conservative influencer.
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He's got millions of people to follow him, but we were close friends, and he's like, look,
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dude.
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You gotta run a fuck with testosterone.
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And I was like, bro, I'm not a doctor.
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You know, it's typical brainwash.
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Oh, I can't do that.
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Yeah.
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And so I basically wrote a letter or not a letter and email, you know, to, Rick Collins,
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who now happens to be a very close personal friend, you know, the famous body building
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sterile attorney and said, hey.
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Look.
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If a non a radically licensed person wrote a book on therapeutic assessment.
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What would be the risks?
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And being a good attorney that he was, he was like, woah,
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you know, if a senator got
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a bug up the rash, you know, they could after you, blah blah blah.
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So at that point, I was like, you know, when I'm shelving this, but I've also sent it to
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Nelson Virgle who didn't know me from Adam, but I had obviously read his book testosterone
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guide and built to survive.
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And I was just like, hey, look, man.
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Here's here's a white paper that I wrote on testosterone.
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I'd like you to read it and tell me if good enough that I could write a book on it.
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Because, again, I never written a book, and I didn't think I was even worthy of writing a
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book.
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Right?
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But so he didn't respond I shelved it 4 months later out of the blue, which I still remember,
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like, yesterday, I got an email from him.
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And he's like, I don't know who you are, but this is unbelievable.
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You gotta publish this.
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I wanna help you blah blah blah.
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He here's my number.
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Call me.
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So I called him, and I told him what Rick said.
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And he was Who cares about Rick?
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He's like, I'm on panels with the FDA.
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He's like, men need this information.
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So at that time, it was 2014.
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And I was I always say, you know, giving him credit stepping on the shoulders of giant.
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He mentored me.
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We published the book.
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It could have published in 2014, but we took a little bit longer.
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Mike was actually involved one time.
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And then him and I had kind of like, going different ways in in a business and stuff.
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So, anyway, the book came out in November of 2015.
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That was the first which was original.
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The original before that, yeah, it was called it was called the definitive testosterone
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therapy manual, and then we spelled MAN Capital.
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Right?
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And then that allowed me to meet people like you guys and, you know, all sorts of
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researchers.
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And then I started going to all the doctor medical conventions and stuff like that.
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And then fast forward to this day.
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I've written 8 books.
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Right?
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And I've written books
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on health.
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I've This thing is a freaking powerhouse.
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Yeah.
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And, honestly An amazing Well, what's funny about that book is is, obviously, it's still
00:14:58
stands the test of time.
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But, like, last night, I was talking to one of the doctors that helped me write it.
00:15:02
We were just having a we were supposed to do our doctor's round table, but we just canceled
00:15:05
it because two of the were sick.
00:15:07
Yeah.
00:15:07
So we're just like, I will just bullshit with each other and talk for a couple of minutes,
00:15:10
but we were talking about redoing that book.
00:15:12
And he looked at me square up, and he's like, bro, why would we redo the book?
00:15:15
It's 80%, right?
00:15:16
Still.
00:15:17
Yeah.
00:15:17
You know, so it's like, yeah, we've learned things in 6 years because that book was
00:15:21
actually written in 2017 published in in March of 2018.
00:15:25
But, you know, forward it now is, you know, 6 years and, you know, it's 80% right.
00:15:29
Which long in that book is the female stuff.
00:15:32
Because we've evolved that knowledge.
00:15:34
There's a little bit about estrogen inhibition that we've also evolved.
00:15:37
Yeah.
00:15:37
But everything else when it comes
00:15:38
to utilizing and dosing therapeutic testosterone nailed it.
00:15:43
It's and it will never change.
00:15:44
Yeah.
00:15:44
I mean, you can see this freaking book, dude.
00:15:46
I have bookmarked the sheet out of it because I use Yeah.
00:15:48
A lot of this on myself.
00:15:49
And, of course, you know, recommendations.
00:15:51
And almost all physicians, by the way, who are knowledgeable, which, as you know, is a small
00:15:55
percentage, use that book.
00:15:56
Right.
00:15:57
That's the that's the resource guide.
00:15:58
Yeah.
00:15:58
And and and truth and and this is a blessing because I wasn't a doctor, the smartest doctors
00:16:03
in the world have all told me to a man and a woman that they were like, we could never have
00:16:07
written this because we would all fight with each other over, you know, ridiculous stuff.
00:16:11
Yeah.
00:16:11
Where you as a non practicing physician didn't care.
00:16:14
You just all the science together and said, hey, here it is.
00:16:17
Nice.
00:16:17
Do what you want.
00:16:18
I've been using testosterone for 20 years, and this is my findings.
00:16:21
Yeah.
00:16:21
Whereas doctors would just fight you know, it would be like, you know, my penis is bigger
00:16:25
than
00:16:25
your penis.
00:16:26
Yeah.
00:16:26
Yeah.
00:16:26
Absolutely.
00:16:27
They would just literally be fighting over, like, the most stupid, you know,
00:16:31
inconsistencies of the science and research.
00:16:33
Yeah.
00:16:33
Oh, that's not evidence based or whatever and so that would have been published.
00:16:36
Yeah.
00:16:36
So they all say it took a non practicing physician to publish a book of that
00:16:40
I mean, dude, I'm a doctor, but I have learned more from you
00:16:42
in this book that I probably
00:16:44
did about testosterone in chiropractic course.
00:16:46
Right?
00:16:46
And so tell tell us, bro, like, I mean, you've been doing this 20 years now.
00:16:49
10 years since that book started.
00:16:51
Yeah.
00:16:51
Why are we still in a state in this country where testosterone is just freaking declining
00:16:56
in men?
00:16:56
Is it What's going on?
00:16:57
Like, what's that?
00:16:58
I mean, it's environmental.
00:16:59
In 2011, a 7 continent patient population, double blind, placebo randomized controlled
00:17:06
trial, came out called the Hebrew University study, and it was 48 participants.
00:17:10
And it was men on every continent.
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And they started in 1974, which is 3 years after I was born, and they concluded and and
00:17:18
found their findings in 2011.
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In 2011, it was that base fertility was half.
00:17:23
They also tracked testosterone, but they didn't publish it because it wasn't important to them.
00:17:26
They were just looking at fertility.
00:17:27
Right?
00:17:28
A free testosterone was more than half.
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It was like 60 sat down.
00:17:32
We've got a problem.
00:17:33
Yeah.
00:17:33
Right?
00:17:33
But it wasn't addressed because again, it's 2011.
00:17:36
It's not now.
00:17:36
We don't have the technological onslaught.
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We don't have EMS We don't have all this stuff that's going on now, but the answer to your
00:17:42
question is the environment is contaminated.
00:17:44
Pollution.
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If you live in a 1st world, you know, concentrated place like Tampa, like LA, like
00:17:50
New York, like Houston, Seattle, you know, Chicago, Detroit, any of those places, your
00:17:55
body is overwhelmed.
00:17:56
Mail and email.
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Appreciate it.
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Our endocrine systems are just overwhelmed.
00:18:00
I told, Courtney, you know, on the on the podcast this morning because she asked me, boy,
00:18:04
She's like, is there a way to optimize hormones without
00:18:08
using therapeutic testosterone?
00:18:08
And I
00:18:08
said in maybe 1% of population.
00:18:14
Right?
00:18:14
Because the, again, the the it's the biggest tool in the tool belt.
00:18:17
Yeah.
00:18:18
And the issue is, like, even if you do everything right and you're super anal or
00:18:21
tentative and you block all the EMF and you have a you you you're sleeping a fair day cage.
00:18:26
Right?
00:18:26
Like, you do all these things.
00:18:28
You're still when you go out in public, not
00:18:30
protected.
00:18:31
Yeah.
00:18:31
Yeah.
00:18:32
So it's
00:18:32
like if you're using therapeutic testosterone, you're using therapeutic hormone or peptides,
00:18:37
you're using a low dose of growth hormone taking, you know, metformin or dihydroberber
00:18:42
and all these different things, like, then you are somewhat protected versus when you're just
00:18:47
natural, you're not protected.
00:18:48
Right.
00:18:48
So that's where we've gotten in today's society.
00:18:50
You either have to be a freak genetically
00:18:53
Yeah.
00:18:53
And still an outlier, right?
00:18:54
Because even if you're a freak genetically, you're still being bombarded.
00:18:57
Yeah.
00:18:57
So it's like you're either a freak genetically or an outlier or you're using hormones or
00:19:02
you're destroyed.
00:19:03
That's where we're at.
00:19:04
Yeah.
00:19:04
And did look else.
00:19:05
Go around and look outside.
00:19:07
Yeah.
00:19:07
Go to the, you know, the mall.
00:19:09
You know, go to any outdoor, large place.
00:19:11
Go to a theater and look get people.
00:19:13
Yeah.
00:19:13
People are done.
00:19:15
Yeah.
00:19:15
They're physically fat.
00:19:17
Yeah.
00:19:17
They're exhausted.
00:19:19
They're insulin or insulin resistant, metabolically dysregulated.
00:19:23
It's insane.
00:19:24
So this I I gotta question on this then because this is pretty interesting stuff.
00:19:28
Now that I'm thinking about it based on what you're saying, right, is it that less people
00:19:34
are having sex It's a problem.
00:19:37
There's there's less sex going on for the ability to reproduce because of what's
00:19:41
happening in today's age.
00:19:42
100%.
00:19:43
Okay.
00:19:44
So it's not whereas, like, we're having the same amount of sex and, like, we're just we're
00:19:49
have we have lower fertility just because the man can't produce that level of testosterone
00:19:53
with sperm count, it's dramatically because people are, like, that much or just aren't
00:19:59
having sex, because they're like, you know, pretty much They're not capable of heroin.
00:20:03
I mean, so you have you have you have like so erectile dysfunction is so prevalent in society
00:20:09
now today.
00:20:10
Like, almost most men over the age 45.
00:20:13
So put it this way.
00:20:14
And and again, I talked to this earlier today.
00:20:16
If you're and and this is not a must, but if you're a man 45 and older and a belly.
00:20:21
Yeah.
00:20:21
Your dick doesn't work.
00:20:22
Yeah.
00:20:23
You are metabolically disrange.
00:20:24
It's like I say, like
00:20:25
Say that shit again because that's our audiences.
00:20:27
No.
00:20:27
We talked about 45 or above, and you have a giant bell you cannot get your Listen.
00:20:32
To work naturally.
00:20:34
Now granted, most of those guys are taking the blue or the red pill.
00:20:37
Right?
00:20:37
They're taking the hours or or Viagra.
00:20:39
Now here's something too.
00:20:40
I'm gonna blow your listeners' minds away.
00:20:42
And, again, no one studies this.
00:20:44
And this is just my theory, but I'm telling you if you look into it, you would now it's not a
00:20:49
theory.
00:20:49
The majority of heart attacks in America today that happened to men who are fat.
00:20:53
Again, metabolic, dysregulated
00:20:55
Yeah.
00:20:56
Are taking a high dose of Viagra and they stroke out.
00:20:58
Wow.
00:20:59
Think about that.
00:20:59
Yeah.
00:21:00
They're trying to force something that doesn't
00:21:01
physically happen.
00:21:02
I said that about a year and a half on some podcast.
00:21:05
And I had a physician reach out to me, who found me, who listened to me, you know,
00:21:08
indirectly some way, and he said that was one of the most profound statements that have ever
00:21:12
been made because I can actually prove that scientifically.
00:21:16
And I was like, well, yeah, it just stands to reason.
00:21:18
He's like, yeah, but nobody's talking about that.
00:21:20
Because because then they're gonna get allstate if you take a 100 milligram tab of Viagra,
00:21:25
which a fat guy, that doesn't even do anything.
00:21:28
You they take 3 of them.
00:21:30
Dude, first off, as a guy who's uses a surchargely precise dose of Cialis, I've
00:21:36
experimented with 5th milligrams of my diagram, it makes you feel loopy because, again, it's
00:21:40
occluding of vascularity.
00:21:42
Right?
00:21:42
So it's like, you you can go from, like, feeling, wow, I got a raging heart on to, like,
00:21:46
flaccid and feeling like, oh my god.
00:21:47
What's going on with it?
00:21:48
So imagine taking 300 milligrams, which is what fat guys are doing.
00:21:52
Crafting.
00:21:53
So exactly.
00:21:53
So you're basically fiftyfifty gonna die of a heart attack to have a heart on.
00:21:57
Yeah.
00:21:57
But again, hey, if you're that dude and you can't get in a heart on and your wife is, like,
00:22:01
gonna eat.
00:22:02
Yeah.
00:22:02
Yeah.
00:22:03
Yeah.
00:22:03
So that's what so that's what's happening.
00:22:05
That's, like, to go back to what you were just saying, think about this.
00:22:08
This
00:22:08
is how crazy it is.
00:22:09
Like, The average guy who's going through this experience, who's not having sex, who can't get
00:22:14
an erection.
00:22:15
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Plus room deficiency.
00:22:55
They don't have anywhere to get the information.
00:22:57
The doctors are not trained on this.
00:22:59
It's not standard is our our standard pro
00:23:01
We'll talk about that because that's one of my questions.
00:23:03
What is that sign?
00:23:04
So if you were to educate somebody, what is what is that sign that they should be seeing?
00:23:08
The number one sign a testosterone deficiency is brain fog.
00:23:11
Brain fog.
00:23:12
Yeah.
00:23:12
And and again, how is it diagnosed?
00:23:14
It's not.
00:23:15
They go to a doctor.
00:23:15
And and look, and for most men, you know, we we're we're we're were taught to fall on our
00:23:21
swords, bring home the bacon.
00:23:22
Right?
00:23:23
Like, we're not gonna tell anybody that we have a sexual or or that we have a testosterone
00:23:26
deficiency because most guys like, no, bro, my machinery works.
00:23:29
I'm good.
00:23:29
It's all good.
00:23:30
Yeah.
00:23:30
Right.
00:23:30
Yeah.
00:23:30
Everything's good.
00:23:31
Right?
00:23:31
But it's like, usually, it takes the woman because he's not banging her.
00:23:35
That's satisfying.
00:23:36
Or she's thinking he's cheating on her.
00:23:37
He's not having sex with her because he can't get an erection.
00:23:40
Yeah.
00:23:40
So then they get a doctor.
00:23:41
Absolutely.
00:23:42
And then they get a doctor involved, but then again, they're going to a PPO doctor, an HMO
00:23:47
doctor,
00:23:47
a
00:23:48
family doctor, who knows nothing.
00:23:49
That's
00:23:50
nothing.
00:23:50
Yeah.
00:23:50
Yeah.
00:23:50
Exactly.
00:23:51
Right?
00:23:51
So then but what they do is they make it worse, right, because they prescribe an SSR and a
00:23:55
pinker blue pill.
00:23:57
Yeah.
00:23:57
Both of which don't attract or or to address the root cause.
00:24:00
Yeah.
00:24:00
So now it just gets worse, and we know the SSRI actually further exacerbate, hormone
00:24:05
deficiencies.
00:24:06
Yeah.
00:24:06
Right?
00:24:06
So this it's it's a it's a vicious cycle or loop that cannot be fixed until they get smart
00:24:13
enough to find somebody like me to listen to a podcast like this and to seek outside help
00:24:18
because you're not gonna find any help in the in the standard, you know, care practice and
00:24:22
insurance medical practice.
00:24:24
And, like, you always talk about this, man, and I want you to elaborate.
00:24:26
It's like, you always talk about, like, the the difference between optimization and replace
00:24:30
me.
00:24:30
Right?
00:24:30
Or we can replace your testosterone to a basic level where you're within reference range,
00:24:34
which who the hell is coming up with these numbers anyway?
00:24:36
Exactly.
00:24:37
Or, like, you say is, like, how do optimize that shit to be.
00:24:40
I don't wanna be replaced too, like, normal.
00:24:42
Right?
00:24:42
Like, you wanna be living above average.
00:24:44
Right?
00:24:44
So, dude, that's a best question you could ask me because we were talking that earlier today
00:24:48
too.
00:24:48
And no one's ever asked me this.
00:24:49
This is, like, it's perfect frame a lot fought for me, but do think of this.
00:24:53
So there are now 3 oral testosterone, FDA approved testosterone formulations.
00:24:58
I one of them is called JETENzo, one of them is T Landy, and I don't know what the other one
00:25:02
is.
00:25:02
It doesn't matter, but literally to what you just said, they're worthless because they will
00:25:07
take a man who has, again, the average guy, 60 to 80 to a 100.
00:25:11
Right?
00:25:11
And remember, for your listening audience, I know you guys know this, you're listening
00:25:15
audience.
00:25:16
Yeah.
00:25:16
Exactly.
00:25:16
And that's a meaningless number.
00:25:18
Right?
00:25:18
Cause free is all that matters.
00:25:19
Right?
00:25:19
We only wanna measure what is unbound and usable by body.
00:25:23
Yeah.
00:25:23
So it's bound testosterone is usually what is total testosterone.
00:25:26
But anyway, to not rabbit hole too much, there's 3 companies that make 3 FDA approved
00:25:31
products, which by the way, are happen to be the most expensive delivery systems in the
00:25:35
marketplace too.
00:25:35
Right?
00:25:36
So big pharma's making their money.
00:25:37
But it will take a man who's at 6 year 80 total 5 free to 250 to 300, which, as you know, is
00:25:44
just tiny bit above low range, which is already compressed due to obesity
00:25:49
Yeah.
00:25:50
Due to the environmental onslaught.
00:25:51
And so they become normal.
00:25:54
Who wants to be normal?
00:25:56
Yeah.
00:25:56
I mean, you still feel like absolute dog shit.
00:25:58
Yeah.
00:25:59
Yeah.
00:25:59
They
00:25:59
feel I mean, literally, you go from 200 or, I'm sorry, 75 to 250.
00:26:03
Your dog ship.
00:26:04
You you Yeah.
00:26:05
That's not an improvement, but again, those guys that prescribe those oral supplements.
00:26:09
And I know a lot of doctors that do, they're gonna say to us or to you or to me, it'll be
00:26:13
like, yeah, but this this keeps me outside of the auditing of the state medical licensing
00:26:19
boards, right, because it's still in the range.
00:26:21
Whereas, like, if you give them an optimized level, as you know, sometimes they're gonna
00:26:25
fall outside of the range.
00:26:26
Scared, though.
00:26:26
Exactly.
00:26:27
They're scared.
00:26:27
It's all scared.
00:26:28
Yeah.
00:26:28
But sometimes they fall outside of the range.
00:26:29
But, again, the range you already said it before we started rolling, the ranges are made
00:26:33
up.
00:26:33
The injection.
00:26:34
It's completely a farce.
00:26:35
Yeah.
00:26:36
I was taught by the godfather of hormone optimization Doctor John Krezzler may be rest
00:26:41
in peace, you know, he off himself, unfortunately, like, 5 years ago now.
00:26:44
But he said, Jay, there's a twofold goal to hormone optimization therapy, and that is
00:26:48
balance and joy.
00:26:50
Do you feel balanced and are you joyful?
00:26:53
If you feel balanced and are you joyful, it doesn't matter how high your asoscelor levels
00:26:57
are right.
00:26:57
20.
00:26:58
Because again, in the absence of symptoms and side effects, who care?
00:27:00
Who cares?
00:27:01
Yeah.
00:27:01
Right?
00:27:02
And the other issue though is that and and, you know, this is important to talk about with your
00:27:06
audiences.
00:27:07
We never ever wanna block estrogen when we're using therapeutic testosterone.
00:27:11
Yeah.
00:27:11
This is like the most insane Body building.
00:27:15
Because it's not clarified something real quick.
00:27:16
It's pretty intensive.
00:27:17
Right.
00:27:17
Yes.
00:27:17
So bookmark that real quick before that.
00:27:20
Yes.
00:27:20
So, like, just to clarify
00:27:22
Sure.
00:27:22
Oral, because I for purpose and education for everyone and myself, you do not recommend oral.
00:27:28
You subcutaneous mainly for testosterone and and that creates more bound testosterone the
00:27:36
through the subcutaneous route, not the oral.
00:27:37
Well, so Am I corrected on that?
00:27:37
Somewhat somewhat.
00:27:42
Somewhat.
00:27:43
But the but just to clarify for your audience, because it's important.
00:27:46
There are 2 delivery systems that men should use.
00:27:48
K.
00:27:48
Women, there are 3.
00:27:50
Okay.
00:27:50
The 2 delivery systems that men should use are obviously injectable, which is the standard
00:27:54
tried and true used for 80 years.
00:27:56
Yep.
00:27:56
The problem with injectable, solutions is a couple of things which are important to
00:28:01
mention.
00:28:02
Make sure you're using a compounded pharmacy because the, retail versions of these
00:28:06
testosterone things have cotton seed and other GMO particulates.
00:28:10
Yeah.
00:28:11
Which cause horrible anaphylactic reactions can cause allergies, can make people sick.
00:28:17
I mean, they're horrible.
00:28:17
Like, literally sharing and all the main pharmaceutical manufacturers still put hot and
00:28:22
seed oil in their testosterone preparations.
00:28:23
So make sure you're using a compounding pharmacy that, you know, has a stabilizing, a
00:28:28
non GMO product to stabilize.
00:28:30
And they're plenty.
00:28:31
You can use MCT oil.
00:28:32
You can use grape seed.
00:28:33
I mean, there's a lot of different things that you know, make it very thin and very, this, I
00:28:37
mean, not viscous so that it won't go through the injection.
00:28:40
But Yeah.
00:28:40
If you inject the best, absolutely most optimal because, again, when we inject, we wanna mimic
00:28:46
the body's natural production as close as possible.
00:28:48
Right?
00:28:48
So we wanna go daily, but that's not reasonable.
00:28:50
Most people are
00:28:51
not gonna inject them every 7 days
00:28:52
a week.
00:28:53
You're if you're a business person or executive or a traveler, you're not gonna be carrying 7
00:28:57
needles in your foot.
00:28:58
Right?
00:28:59
It's just not practical.
00:29:00
So The next best thing is to go every other day.
00:29:02
Now if you go every other day, it's like 3 shots a week.
00:29:05
Right?
00:29:05
Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, whatever.
00:29:08
Maybe you'll have a 2 day break at the end.
00:29:10
But if you do that, you're going to mimic the half life of the testosterone cancer.
00:29:14
Drip.
00:29:15
Correct.
00:29:15
Correct.
00:29:15
So the the ester The ester that most people use is either in, especially in the west, is
00:29:20
Sipinate or annotate, and they're very, very similar.
00:29:22
So you got a half life of anywhere from, 24 to 48 hours.
00:29:26
So it's like if you're injecting every other day, you're constantly like this.
00:29:30
Got it.
00:29:30
Now when guys are injecting twice a week or at worst is once a week.
00:29:35
They're crashing.
00:29:36
They're just ulcerative reversal days
00:29:38
for this stuff.
00:29:39
And so their body acclimates to that.
00:29:41
They get also symptoms and side effects are never balanced or never optimized.
00:29:45
Those are the guys that have high sex hormone binding ocular.
00:29:48
You know, they're they're always chasing laboratory range numbers they're never
00:29:52
optimized.
00:29:52
Yeah.
00:29:53
Okay.
00:29:53
Now to answer your question, the oral versions don't work in men because they're too weak.
00:29:58
So they'll take a guy from, like, a super low level into a, quote, unquote, barely over
00:30:03
normal.
00:30:03
And then the docs will say, see, I worked.
00:30:06
But it's not it's not effective because you're not feeling optimal.
00:30:10
Right.
00:30:10
Yeah.
00:30:10
They're just reading the laboratory ranges.
00:30:12
Right?
00:30:12
So so so the other one, though, that that's important in what I use is the transcrotal
00:30:17
application.
00:30:17
So, basically, it's a cream, you put it at the base of your scrotum.
00:30:20
And the reason you put it at the base of your scrotum is because it's eight times more
00:30:24
permeable than any other skin location.
00:30:26
Now even more of amazing is, and again, this shows you how close men and women are.
00:30:30
The clitoral head so the tip of the clitoris, the skin permeability is the same as the
00:30:35
scrotum.
00:30:36
So for women,
00:30:36
exactly, based on
00:30:37
the heart development when women take too much androgens.
00:30:41
Yeah.
00:30:42
Yeah.
00:30:42
They're a clitoris becomes a
00:30:43
piece.
00:30:43
Yeah.
00:30:44
Literally.
00:30:45
I mean, again, I tell people this all the time.
00:30:46
The difference between men and women is the amount of testosterone in utero that the this
00:30:50
fetus
00:30:51
that promotes the growth of
00:30:52
that literally all it is.
00:30:53
There's no difference.
00:30:55
There's no difference in men and women.
00:30:57
Oh, it's true.
00:30:57
There's no difference in men and women physiologically other than the amount
00:31:01
testosterone or estrogen in utero.
00:31:03
100%.
00:31:03
A woman becomes a woman because they're exposed to more estrogen and a man becomes a man, when
00:31:09
they're exposed to more testosterone.
00:31:10
Now to get you guys even more freaked out and to start understanding, like, this whole
00:31:14
child's nonsense.
00:31:15
Yeah.
00:31:15
Yeah.
00:31:16
Let's go.
00:31:16
The reason that these kids and young people today are confused sexually is because they
00:31:22
don't have enough testosterone that they're exposed to in utero.
00:31:26
Wow.
00:31:26
So
00:31:26
when you don't have enough.
00:31:28
And I'm I mean, like You talked about
00:31:29
this on Ben Pokulsky's show.
00:31:31
I did.
00:31:31
So when they're not exposed to testosterone and utero, they don't have sexual identification.
00:31:37
They can't identify as male or female.
00:31:40
So again, this is all hormonal.
00:31:42
I've told people this that the whole trans thing is a farce that it's all miss
00:31:46
misinformation.
00:31:47
It's literally a lack of testosterone in utero.
00:31:49
Yeah.
00:31:50
Now anybody could prove this.
00:31:51
This is simply verifiable.
00:31:53
Now, obviously, all of the PC police are not gonna ever agree to this and say I'm insane,
00:31:58
but it's very simple to measure this biologically.
00:32:01
Yeah.
00:32:01
And so this is leading to the problem that we have today.
00:32:04
Is the sexual confusion.
00:32:06
People saying they wanna change their sex because they don't feel I mean, I mean, think
00:32:09
about this.
00:32:10
If you're a dude and you're five, and you tell your mom and dad that you wanna become a woman,
00:32:17
it's because you don't feel like a man.
00:32:19
Yeah.
00:32:20
You don't have Yeah.
00:32:22
Testosterone circulating freely through your veins.
00:32:25
Yeah.
00:32:25
And so you start questioning, well, maybe I'm a woman.
00:32:28
And then, of course, you look at the PC non sense that they're feeding our kids and you
00:32:33
say, oh, well, it's okay.
00:32:34
You can transition.
00:32:35
The state will pay for it.
00:32:36
Geez.
00:32:36
That's where we're at.
00:32:37
It's insane.
00:32:38
But this is all easily proven biologically.
00:32:41
Now why is this happening?
00:32:43
It's happening because, again, there's so much birth control in the water supply.
00:32:46
Yeah.
00:32:47
I've said this to, you know, I didn't say this, but Doctor Anthony Jay from Esther Generation,
00:32:51
you know, who's a good friend of mine.
00:32:52
He said this on a podcast with me in 2018.
00:32:54
He's like, look.
00:32:55
And it's in his book.
00:32:56
Again, astro generation is a book that you guys should definitely read that book.
00:32:59
That book will literally teach you guys so much, but if you put a male fish into North
00:33:05
American aqueducts, freshwater streams, rivers, even, salt estuaries, they become female within
00:33:13
1 with 1 year.
00:33:14
12 months, the male fish becomes female.
00:33:17
So So when you under exactly.
00:33:18
The chemicals.
00:33:19
Exactly.
00:33:19
So when you understand that that's what's happening to biological sentient life, both
00:33:25
humans, animals, and mammals, this is what's happening.
00:33:29
That's why men are weaker.
00:33:31
Look, I just saw this post on Twitter the other day, but they were showing, MBA basketball
00:33:37
centers 25 years ago to the centers of today.
00:33:40
Like, what Bamba, that other guy that plays for He's
00:33:43
a real.
00:33:43
Yeah.
00:33:43
The skinny kid, the Planet Gonzaga.
00:33:45
Yeah.
00:33:45
Yeah.
00:33:46
Yeah.
00:33:46
But that's the difference of what I'm talking about.
00:33:49
Have testosterone in utero that we had 25 or 30 years ago.
00:33:54
So they're skinnier.
00:33:55
They have weaker bone density.
00:33:57
It's like, it's very simple that you can see the species.
00:34:00
It's a it's essentially a transmogrification of the species.
00:34:03
And so people are becoming weaker and and less, hormone balance.
00:34:08
Yeah.
00:34:08
And we probably won't get into this on the show, but I think you and I can subscribe on
00:34:12
the same page that how much of that is, like, a plan or or part of
00:34:15
A lot.
00:34:16
Agendas that are bigger than everything.
00:34:17
That out in the car.
00:34:19
But, I mean, I mean, look, look, it used to
00:34:21
be week and
00:34:22
Well, once it used to be people would say to me, like, look, man, it's a byproduct.
00:34:27
Right?
00:34:27
And I'd be like, maybe.
00:34:29
But now it's not a byproduct.
00:34:31
I mean, I can show you
00:34:32
What's a controllable species?
00:34:33
Or we 100.
00:34:34
Man.
00:34:35
Right?
00:34:35
I I mean, look, I talk about this in the group every Tuesday night.
00:34:37
Like, when you get to a level of awareness of, like, what's going on, you will is that
00:34:41
everything is densities.
00:34:43
Right?
00:34:43
Like, 1st density is inanimate material.
00:34:46
Very important thing when I learned when I went to Peru in 2019 is that everything is
00:34:50
conscious.
00:34:51
This table is conscious.
00:34:53
It barely vibrates, but it's conscious.
00:34:55
You get the second that's 1st density, right?
00:34:57
You get the 2nd density and you're at plants and animals.
00:35:00
They're conscious.
00:35:01
Our plants are are you they've done all those tests.
00:35:03
The mochillo test with the plants where, like, if you give it love, it grows.
00:35:08
Right?
00:35:08
Using all that stuff.
00:35:09
Right?
00:35:09
Same thing animals we all know from animals.
00:35:12
Right?
00:35:12
Unconditional love is when we get into the, exposure of our dog wagging his tail when home.
00:35:18
Right?
00:35:18
So that's 2nd density.
00:35:19
3rd density is us.
00:35:20
Okay.
00:35:21
We're humans.
00:35:22
4th density is what we don't see here on stand, the 4th density would be beings.
00:35:26
Exactly.
00:35:27
We can't comprehend it, but basically beings who would be biphasic.
00:35:30
Literally and what I mean by that is they become energy or But because where they're
00:35:35
vibrating at, they to come into our realm or to into this, you know, existence, you just said
00:35:40
energy and frequency, they would have to step down just to get here and exist in our density
00:35:46
because they're vibrating and think of it really as oscillating.
00:35:48
It's torsion at that level.
00:35:50
So it's like when you start looking at humanity, I mean, I shouldn't say humanity, but
00:35:55
creation from levels of density.
00:35:57
Yeah.
00:35:58
Then, like, of course, it's o it's an over plan to keep the 3rd density humans stupid.
00:36:04
Yeah.
00:36:05
And meat or food or fuel or whatever.
00:36:07
And, you know, we're not even talking about, like, what we really are for them is fuel.
00:36:12
You know?
00:36:12
It's like we're psychic fuel
00:36:14
Yeah.
00:36:14
For these things.
00:36:15
That's why if we get into hold up the, you know, the sex trafficking and the organ
00:36:19
trafficking and the and the adrenochrome harvesting and all this stuff, this is all
00:36:23
because it's a fuel source for different density beings.
00:36:27
Again, whether you wanna call them reptilians, demons, grays, you know, there's so many
00:36:31
different names for them, you know, they what they used to call them, the the, the Arab has
00:36:35
called them gin.
00:36:37
They're showing any nature of these beans.
00:36:38
Right?
00:36:39
But it's like they're not in our dimension.
00:36:41
They're not in our realm.
00:36:42
We don't understand them.
00:36:43
They can obviously, they take, energetic form and physical form when they step down.
00:36:48
They don't they can't step down very
00:36:49
much.
00:36:50
Between.
00:36:51
Exactly.
00:36:52
The whole reason that people can't find or prove that UFOs exist is because they're not in
00:36:58
our reality.
00:36:58
Too.
00:36:59
Yeah.
00:36:59
When they come into our reality, it's a blip in time.
00:37:03
They're literally like generating a, a tortion field, variants to show up.
00:37:10
But if you went to touch it or you went to find it, it's gone because it's not actually in this
00:37:15
realm.
00:37:15
Yeah.
00:37:15
Right?
00:37:15
But they do appear and people see them.
00:37:18
Right.
00:37:18
When you were talking about people that are abducted, that's exactly what happens.
00:37:21
The energy of the life form, which is all what we are is basic, is just energy.
00:37:26
We're energy at base essence.
00:37:27
These meat suits, right, allow us to move around and stuff in this density, but we're
00:37:30
basically energy, souls, spirits.
00:37:32
And so when the beings from the different density come in and they abduct them, they're
00:37:36
taking their energy.
00:37:38
And so that's why people move through walls or they move through roofs or they go into ships
00:37:42
or whatever it is they experience.
00:37:43
It's their energy.
00:37:45
Yeah.
00:37:45
Energetic form
00:37:46
is reading.
00:37:46
Yeah.
00:37:47
It's the physical body stays.
00:37:48
It's a show.
00:37:49
Exactly.
00:37:50
You always say?
00:37:51
Yeah.
00:37:51
We're meat soup.
00:37:52
It's a show.
00:37:52
We're meat soup.
00:37:53
Yeah.
00:37:54
We're literally Yeah.
00:37:54
But we gotta protect those.
00:37:55
Like, I mean, I'm a big faith believer, and I'm like, dude, if I'm not if I'm not protecting
00:38:00
the shell that was given to me.
00:38:01
And I was blessed.
00:38:02
You're more of
00:38:02
a target.
00:38:03
Like, like,
00:38:04
a 100%.
00:38:05
You're here for a
00:38:05
limited time.
00:38:06
I wanna
00:38:06
protect myself.
00:38:08
Body is the most important thing we have in 3 dents If you don't protect it, you don't
00:38:13
appreciate it, you don't love it, you don't train it, you don't, you know, eat it, feed it
00:38:18
the correct fuel sources, then you literally have no shot of connecting with god.
00:38:22
Absolutely.
00:38:23
None.
00:38:24
I I mean, people get mad at me because they're like, oh, so you're saying that person can't be
00:38:28
spiritual.
00:38:28
And I'm saying that's not what I'm saying.
00:38:29
I'm saying if you wanna connect to source consciousness to god
00:38:33
Yeah.
00:38:34
To creation energy, you cannot be co morbid.
00:38:38
Yeah.
00:38:38
Sick, you know, 10 vaxes, 6 boosters, morbidly obese, inflamed.
00:38:44
You can't.
00:38:44
It's not possible.
00:38:46
And the ancients taught us this, but this has all been forgotten.
00:38:48
And again, this dark element is called this parasitic energy that's, attempting to know,
00:38:53
circumnavigate all of us now and create whatever it is.
00:38:55
It's a it they're creating a transhumanist world.
00:38:58
That's
00:38:58
what they wanna do.
00:38:59
Right?
00:38:59
It's a transhumanist world.
00:39:01
The singularity, man emerge, make robots.
00:39:03
It's ridiculous.
00:39:04
Yeah.
00:39:04
But if you don't choose that path, you realize that, like, no, man.
00:39:09
We're like an organic biologic species God gave us power.
00:39:13
God gave us this creation.
00:39:14
We gay we he gave us this power.
00:39:16
He gave us this meat suit, this structure, the shell, like, you gotta to utilize it and
00:39:23
beloved it and and and trust it and and and and, like, know that this is the only thing you
00:39:28
have it.
00:39:28
This time and space right now.
00:39:30
This is something that, is super I wanna just touch on because you're a girl dad too.
00:39:35
And so I got 3 girls.
00:39:36
One of the biggest things for me that resonates with that is that, the modeling perspective of
00:39:42
that
00:39:42
course.
00:39:43
And if I'm not modeling those meat suits out correctly, what what is what are my daughter's
00:39:48
gonna pick?
00:39:48
Right?
00:39:49
Exactly.
00:39:49
And I'm like, Helmo.
00:39:51
Like, I gotta I gotta make sure I'm modeling that correctly in this because it is absolutely
00:39:57
I'm casting that energy on a daily basis.
00:39:59
7, 6, and 4 right now, but I wanna make sure I'm right.
00:40:02
Like, I
00:40:02
I don't wanna play any games.
00:40:03
Yeah.
00:40:04
And so that was something big for me that, like, absolutely resonates because, like, my
00:40:08
daughters are gonna have a choice.
00:40:10
It's right, dude.
00:40:11
Right?
00:40:12
Thanks so much for listening to part 1 of this full fueled podcast.
00:40:15
If you like what you heard, tune in next week at the same time to catch up on part 2.
00:40:19
Thanks.