Jay Campbell: A Deep Dive into the Realities of Testosterone Decline (Part 2)
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Jay Campbell: A Deep Dive into the Realities of Testosterone Decline (Part 2)

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True story.

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2 1014, a very, very famous doctor, which I'm never allowed to mention his name, if you guys

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know who this person is, said to me in and he said, Jay, if metformin and human growth

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hormone were in the water supply, there would be no hospitals.

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None.

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That's what he said powerful.

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And

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this is a very smart person, very, very famous.

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And so, again, it's not like the elite don't know what is out there that we can use as

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adjuvants to literally make us improve.

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Welcome to full fuel podcast.

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What's up, baby?

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What's up, man?

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Welcome back.

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It's good

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to be here, bro.

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Mattag.

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How you living today, man?

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Oh, dude.

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Full feet.

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Doctor offered a Lexi word here.

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Man, I'm I'm pumped for today.

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We have a a great guest on the show.

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Somebody with some high level knowledge that they're gonna really break down some really

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cool stuff, really high level information.

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So Jay Campbell is a five time international best selling author, a men's physique champion,

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and founder of the Jay Campbell brand and podcast.

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Jay is recognized as one of the world's leading experts on hormonal optimization and

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therapeutic peptides.

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Jay has dedicated his life to teaching men and women how to fully optimize their health while

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also instilling the importance of raising your consciousness.

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Jay, talk cause, you know, a lot of our audience, I want them to hear this because I've

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heard you say this on multiple podcasts.

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You're talking about this all the time.

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When you're obese and you have that level of subcutaneous fat, which is inflammatory just by

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nature.

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Right?

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You are living basically your life your brain is, like, living in a state of, like,

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discomfort pain.

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You can explain it a little bit better than me, but, like, people listen, man, because this is

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why you you feel like you can't achieve stuff or why you feel like you're you're, stuck.

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Right?

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Dude, I'm gonna elaborate

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on that.

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Super deep

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on this.

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Of course.

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So basically, if you're obese, your body is on fire 24 7365.

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Yeah.

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On fire.

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Every cell in your body is screaming at the top of its lungs help at all times.

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When you are obese and you have all that visceral body fat covering your organs, it's

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just pure inflammation.

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So inflammation creates a cytokine storm.

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The cytokine storm is just ejecting all these painful, hormones and chemical messengers

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through the body at all times.

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So these people are literally living and agonizing health.

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Everybody's fighting to go deeper, to go meta, metaphysical, imagine that an obese person is

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taking on all these layers of trauma.

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And so every layer of visceral body fat or fold of skin becomes a leather layer of trauma.

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Not just their trauma, but their family's trauma their intergenerational family.

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They call it transpersonal, you know, in the in the hypnotherapy space.

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They call it transpersonal generational trauma, but I know that you guys because my mom was

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this person.

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My mom died last year.

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God rushed her soul in March of COVID.

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They die it's okay.

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I'm glad she's gone because she was suffering, but she they they diagnosed her of having

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COVID.

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Of course, again, my dad being asleep, my family being asleep, like, a remdesivir.

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I mean, after I found out all this, I literally was about to fly to Atlanta and strangle my

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dad.

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I was like, dude, but they don't know.

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They have no clue.

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They're clueless.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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They listen to the doctors.

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The doctors are also clueless.

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Yeah.

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Literally, the doctors are also clueless.

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Again, you know, they're they're trying

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to make the pharmaceutical company

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same by the system.

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Right?

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I mean, all you have to do the the craziest part about remdesivir, and I remember this 3

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years ago is remdesivir, if you guys remember for you guys who don't know, is the drug

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literally cured COVID.

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But literally in the paper that it was written by the pea there was, like, 25 scientists that

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wrote the paper.

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They said, well, you know, It cures COVID, but it has this unfortunate side effect of killing

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the patient.

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They put out a drug that cured COVID that killed the patient.

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So did it cure?

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So, like, but this is what's so insane, but this is what's so insane.

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It's a side effect.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a side effect.

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But this is what's so insane.

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But remember, they're trusting science, and we only wanna look what cures the the disease,

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right, which COVID is an invention.

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That's a whole other podcast.

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But, like, the reality is.

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Yeah.

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The reality is is, like, you think about this is, like, the scientists that gave the doctors

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and, as you guys said, big pharma and allopathic medicine, this information about

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this disease, they didn't care about person.

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Yeah.

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They're looking for disease treatment outcomes.

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Yeah.

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How do we solve and create a solution through drugs, which is while we make money to solve an

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an issue.

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So my dad had no idea.

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And his, you know, his Kaiser doctor said, oh, we're gonna put it on remdesivir.

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And I found out, like, 3 days later.

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And, again, my family, no clue.

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I I I found out and I went insane.

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But, again, then I calm down because my wife, you know, being my better house, she's like,

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dude, they're choosing.

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This is their path.

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They

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choose this.

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There's nothing you could do.

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And so I'm like, yeah.

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You're right.

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You know?

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But, I mean, obviously, I love my mom.

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I wanna keep her alive, but, like, that's how she got.

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She was given remdesivir, and she was dead within 2 weeks.

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Wow.

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It's not simple, but there are that's murdered.

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1 of older because my mom was seventy eight.

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Millions of older people who have had this happen to them guys for the last 3 years.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they have no idea.

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Their families have no idea.

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Yeah.

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Just like now and again, this is not, conspiracy theory.

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This is provable.

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You can talk to any date, doctor of talking to doctor Keith Nichols last night about this.

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There are turbo cancers happening from the vaccines.

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Yeah.

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Period.

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Yeah.

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End of story.

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The turbo cancers are happening one of my one of my, business partners who is not my business

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partner anymore, but he's a good friend.

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He's one of the world's leading biochemical engineers.

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He told people in 2020 and, like, 5 podcasts that I did with him, he said, you guys don't

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understand the MRNA because he was one of the people that was involved in the beginning MRNA

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vaccinations or MR and just the MRNA transcription stuff.

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He said what will happen is 4 to 5 years from now that

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people will die as the 2nd and third order effects of them because the mRNA studies show

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that all the animals die.

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All the animals die.

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They don't care.

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All these people are taking mRNA vaccines

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when they know that all of the research, which is

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only in animals, that animals die.

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So do you understand?

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And I, again, I don't wanna scare your your audience.

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They they need to understand they need to understand this.

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So they need to understand this.

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Like, most people, thankfully, did not get an actual mRNA vaccine.

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They were playing Russian roulette on the the world population.

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But there is already a study, and you can fact check this and look this up.

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It's already it's come from your your one of the European countries.

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I don't I think it Italy.

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They actually have identified all the vaccine makers, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and what

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was the

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other one?

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Pfizer.

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Pfizer.

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They've they've identified

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kill batches.

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They already have the numbers of them.

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They know it was like out of every 140 batches given that batch was if you got it You're done.

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You're done.

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3 years.

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You have 3 years tops to live.

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Right?

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So there are, again, there's always a control.

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If we go to this hyperdimensional understanding of experimenting on the human population.

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They're creating hybrids.

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Look at everything around us.

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It's obvious, you know, the aliens, the interdimensional, whatever you wanna call it.

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They're clearly mixing the species isn't hybridizing us.

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They've been hybridizing us ever since they started vaccinating us.

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Right?

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So that's what's going on, but, like, now they're depopulating us.

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And they're doing it at a very fast

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rate.

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Very fast.

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I think it's true.

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I think for the sake of what we wanna talk about on the show, I love this, and we would

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go.

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I would go for hours on with you.

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Sure.

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And we can't anytime you want, bro, but for the sake of, like, our listeners, because I wanna

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get into peptide stuff as well in the sake of time.

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Let's do it.

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Yeah.

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You guys can

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and not to cut you off.

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No.

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No.

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For sure.

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We can edit

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that and put it in

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the next one.

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Yeah.

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We can do that too.

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We're gonna

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do an excellent.

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That's for sure.

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But, man, a lot so along with testosterone, obviously, you're the guy on this.

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Look at this freaking bible you wrote, but you're also the guy when it comes to peptides.

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You've been using this for far longer than people even knew they were available.

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I just learned about peptides the last couple of years being a a young crack partners, but

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tell our listeners, man, what are peptides who can use them?

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Why would somebody use them?

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And, like, give me, like, your top 5 and what you use them for.

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Just so

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you know what I tell

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you guys about this.

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So I read energy.

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You guys are very ancient souls.

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Do you guys know that?

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Like, you're older.

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I think you're older than both of us, dude.

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Well, how old are you?

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32.

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Okay.

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So you're no.

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I'm not exaggerating.

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Like, I I I already I'm, like, reading your energy.

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You're definitely older than both of us, and I'm a old soul.

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That's good.

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So, like, you have a

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very, very old school.

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Baby boy.

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No.

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It's crazy, though.

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Like, you're you're like, you're not 32.

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I mean, you know, you're 32 in this current version.

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I don't know.

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No.

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Dude, you're like, so.

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You're me.

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You're me.

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I'm just like,

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you're me.

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I'm just like, you're me.

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It's just like, woah.

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That's awesome.

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I appreciate it.

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Dude, so the truth is, if if the question was about pep

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peptides.

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Yeah.

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So so the so the number one thing, the number one take home for the audience about peptides

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is, and this is not point enough.

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They're not magic bullets.

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And That's right.

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Almost everyone that starts off with peptides, they hear Jay Campbell, or they hear Ben

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Greenfield remarks this in, or they hear doctor seeds or to talk about peptides, and they're

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like, oh my god.

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I wanna fix my brain, you know, fix everything.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's absolute the truest thing you can say is, like, look, man, if you're morbidly obese,

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you're not living insulin controlled, you're not formally optimized, which is a huge thing.

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Yeah.

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And you start willy nilly, you know, injecting peptides.

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If you see any benefit, it'll be a miracle.

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Right?

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Now that's not to say, and I always caveat this.

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That's not to say that if you have a severe injury, and you're just a disease.

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You're metabolic.

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You're as doctor Rob says in the midwest metabolic emergency.

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He's like, he's like, you could definitely inject BPC and T be 500 into elbow if you

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weren't afraid of doing it, and you would see And it'll work.

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Some form of healing.

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Okay.

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But the healthier you are from a cellular perspective, the more effective peptides are

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gonna be.

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And again, 80% of people are not healthy.

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Yeah.

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So almost so the problem is the great majority of people who use peptides get nothing.

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Yeah.

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And and and the other thing is, and again, because there's so much devilry in the

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allopathic medical world, there's pharmaceutical reps praying on an uninformed

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doctors, you know, giving them peptides that are like orals that absolutely have if you

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understand the, metabolic and and biochemical awareness how these things work in the human

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systems, like, you would never use those because you would understand it's not crossing

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the blood brain barrier, not getting into portal circulation, Right.

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It's not exactly, dude.

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It's not of being a a cross cross chain absorbed.

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So it's like there's all these things that people don't know about and they prey on him.

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I mean, a funny story.

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I always tell the story when I do podcasts like this is like, I had a guy come to me, really

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smart guy.

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He was like, you know, I love your stuff.

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I I listened to you talk about you and your wife using HIPAA morale, and he's like, look,

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man, I gave it 3 months.

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I got nothing.

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Like, what's going on?

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I'm like, well, where did you get it from?

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He's like, well, you know, my doctor wrote me a script form.

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I'm like, from what compound pharmacy?

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He's like, he sends me a picture.

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He's texting me

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at this point.

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Bottle.

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Lozenges broke.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, you're taking lozenges of Ipemrau and who sold this to you?

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And, you know, he ends up telling me, and again, it's just a typical compound pharmacy

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story of a pharmaceutical rep that sells them a product it doesn't even work.

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It can't work.

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It's not possible to suck on a lozenge of ipamorelin and expect it

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to any kind of yes.

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It's a force.

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And so but there's literally hundreds of thousands of people, patients that have used

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delivery systems like that.

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They got zilch.

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Yeah.

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And then, you know, go out there into the world and say, oh, peptides don't work.

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Jay Campbell's a scammer, you know, this is BS.

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You know what I mean?

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So it's like, there's always a context, and it's like, I always tell people, like, and, you

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know, I said the same thing on the Agent Health podcast.

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You have 2 options.

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Right?

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You can use a physician who can prescribe them for you, or you can just go the research route.

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And, obviously, now with because the limitations are coming in with the FDA, you

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know, trying to down on peptides.

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A lot of people are gonna have to go to the research route because they're not even gonna

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get them from their

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doctor.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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And that's where it seems like it's going as they get more, well, really.

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That was

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my next question.

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I mean, that's where it seems like it's going.

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Now I can't predict the future, but, I mean, I've seen the last 20 years of medicine.

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Right?

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They they outlawed anabolic steroids in 1993 or whatever it was 1992.

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And did they ever come into the market legally again?

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Really testosterone is therapeutically administered.

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If you have a clinical need, they also will, you know, prescribe, like, low dose anabolic

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agents for certain people in and conditions, but they never came back in, but there's a

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massive underground market around the world.

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Yeah.

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So why would the same thing not happen with Peptas?

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And, like, with BPC specifically because we both have seen massive benefits injuries.

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Do I heal my knees?

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He healed his wrist after he tried to be Tony Hawk on a freaking But Nice.

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Man, we've seen fantastic healing from it.

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That is one you've talked about that maybe they're gonna try to limit availability of it

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because

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They already have.

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They wanna get their hands on money from

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it.

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It's already it's already happened.

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So what happened on September 29th last year was they classified 28 peptides as class 2 when

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and with that means is in the scientific statement of it is known to cause harm or

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potentially not disease curing.

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Right?

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So it's like you've got you've got 2 You got all these let's just put it this way.

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You've got all the best peptides that people use or actually have access to that they now

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said, oh, you can't use them.

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So there's no wall.

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It's a control grab.

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Oh, it's absolutely.

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It's a it's a money grab.

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It it it hasn't been made into wall.

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But basically, if you're a compound pharmacy owner, you know that when the FDA puts

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something into class 2 and you still manufacture it, they can literally come to your

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place and shut your ass down and take your license.

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So your livelihood is at stake.

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Right?

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But if you talk to these guys and I have, I just was talking to them in December at a for m

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in Vegas, Dude, most of us got got 60 percent of their working capital in the materials, you

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know, that they bought purchased the GLP 1 agonist.

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You know, we wanna talk about those on this podcast because we're important, but

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like if you're a business owner and you have 60% of your future working capital already

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in the marketplace for a product that you know you money and had to or fist, are you gonna

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shut down your business because you get a threat from the FDA?

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No.

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You're gonna basically say, come shut me down.

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Let's go.

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Yeah.

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Try me.

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And and and and

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and literally, that's might what happen or or might be what happens.

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And if you talk to the smart attorneys that work in regulatory, they're gonna say, look,

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the FDA doesn't have

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take your chance.

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Of enough people to kill out

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and

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shut down every compound pharmacy or every clinician that's prescribing peptides.

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Yeah.

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It's still a red

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to me.

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Yeah.

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You're still rolling the dice.

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You're spinning the roll roulette wheel, but, I mean, most people

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Right.

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You know, who have so much money invested and, obviously, they're licensed in their business,

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you know, act into doing this.

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And because, I mean, you guys know too, they help people.

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Yeah.

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So if you're a heel

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and a

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clinician, why are you gonna say not gonna stop helping my clients because this Orwellian

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draconian industry or or regulatory body says, fuck you.

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You know,

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you can't sell these anymore.

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And again, you said it fast.

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It's definitely a money ground.

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At the end of the day, peptides solve if choose.

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Yeah.

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They don't band aid and medicate symptoms like big pharma drugs.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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That's the difference.

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So essentially your take on it is, like, if you're if you're metabolically unhealthy, and

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you're obese and you're sick and you got all this stuff, you try to take a peptide to fix

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that is like trying to put the cart before the wheel essentially.

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Like, you gotta the fundamentals.

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It's just don't help you.

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Like, it's basically like racing a Ferrari against a YUGO.

00:14:48
It's it's for optimized.

00:14:50
It's not for getting you healthy.

00:14:51
It's for once you're healthy, optimizing that to a higher level, which is what all of us are

00:14:54
about on the show.

00:14:55
A 100%.

00:14:56
And and that's why, you know, again, same question was asked on the ancient help podcast.

00:15:00
And I told them they're like, you know, because you know, solutions, give actionable advice.

00:15:04
Actionable advice is very simple.

00:15:06
It's fourfold.

00:15:07
Number 1, be lean.

00:15:09
If you're lean, you will live longer and stronger.

00:15:12
Listen up.

00:15:12
That any person Yeah.

00:15:14
Look at this.

00:15:14
No.

00:15:14
But, I mean, like, literally if you're if your lean, you will live statistically longer than

00:15:19
anything else.

00:15:19
Nothing will keep you alive longer than by being lean.

00:15:20
All the

00:15:23
that top, Jeff.

00:15:24
Dude, pop that top.

00:15:25
Come on.

00:15:25
All of the This guy wants to get you to cut

00:15:27
you off.

00:15:28
All the 100 hold on.

00:15:30
All the 100

00:15:31
all the 100.

00:15:32
Heck and heat.

00:15:32
The what do they call them?

00:15:33
Oppenarians,

00:15:34
the people that live in over a 100.

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00:15:59
You look into all those people and they're tiny thin people.

00:16:02
Yeah.

00:16:03
Yeah.

00:16:03
They have no body fat.

00:16:04
Right?

00:16:05
They're usually Japanese.

00:16:06
Yeah.

00:16:06
But, like, the the re and the, you know, macro out of god.

00:16:09
But but but the reality is is, like, they don't die because all

00:16:12
disease stems

00:16:12
from inflammation.

00:16:13
And inflammation come from an inflamed microbiome.

00:16:19
And then inflamed microbiome leads to acidity and acidity causes fat.

00:16:24
Yeah.

00:16:24
It causes, you know, again, metabolic dysregulation, triglycer ride formation.

00:16:28
And then triglyceride becomes triglycerol.

00:16:31
Triglycerol becomes visceral fatty fatty.

00:16:33
Alright.

00:16:33
Now I got it.

00:16:34
Alright.

00:16:34
So let's let's dive into this a little bit deeper because I'm sure you know the name, but,

00:16:40
Doctor Ross, but Ross Belton.

00:16:42
He's

00:16:42
on your podcast, not too long ago.

00:16:44
And, so you guys were digging deep.

00:16:46
I don't think at the time you were taking rapamycin, but maybe you are now.

00:16:50
No.

00:16:50
I'm not.

00:16:50
No.

00:16:51
You're not.

00:16:51
Yet.

00:16:51
No.

00:16:52
Okay.

00:16:52
So let's if we could just talk a little bit about that because I wanted, to talk a little

00:16:57
bit about getting nerdy on that.

00:16:59
And then specifically associated autophagy and then ontophagy and how that relates to mTOR.

00:17:05
For sure.

00:17:05
So those three things, I think, are pretty important that I wanna learn specifically a

00:17:09
little bit more

00:17:10
So, yeah, a 100%.

00:17:11
So I'll, let me just caveat that by saying, more important to use metformin right now than

00:17:15
Rapinize.

00:17:16
Okay.

00:17:16
Yeah.

00:17:16
I knew you were okay.

00:17:17
Yeah.

00:17:17
So, I mean, met met foreman is absolutely right now.

00:17:21
And, again, this is

00:17:21
no one could debate me on this, although they'll try.

00:17:21
It is statistically the

00:17:21
most powerful anti aging slash age regression drug, or it it's really a supplement.

00:17:30
It's a plan.

00:17:31
Yeah.

00:17:31
The big pharma patent did,

00:17:32
you know, they

00:17:33
made it into a drug, but it's there's no side effects from it.

00:17:36
Although, people get side effects because if you're flaming human dumpster fire with all

00:17:40
sorts of crap going on in your stomach and you take metformin metformin will cause distension,

00:17:46
flatulence until it kills all the bad shit growing in your stomach.

00:17:50
Yeah.

00:17:50
Yeah.

00:17:51
Which again, 90% of people have candida, yeast.

00:17:54
Full of it.

00:17:55
Yes.

00:17:55
Full of it.

00:17:55
Yeah.

00:17:55
That's the best way to say it.

00:17:56
So, right, you start using Metform and it kills it.

00:17:58
Metform.

00:17:59
Yeah.

00:17:59
And then before you know it, you're going to be feeling better.

00:18:02
I mean, metformin, I mean, again, I wrote a 10 word article.

00:18:05
It cited on the EDU and Harvard Med, but, like, the the reality is is it's like, it does so

00:18:10
many good things that it you can't afford not to take it.

00:18:13
You guys should be taking it.

00:18:15
I mean, literally, I I tell people this all the time.

00:18:17
If you can get it, your parents can get it, you should start taking it when you're years old.

00:18:20
It does so many amazing things for the human microbiome.

00:18:24
Again, if we know the microbiome is the ideology, the origin disease.

00:18:27
Absolutely.

00:18:28
Why would you not make it impervious?

00:18:29
Yeah.

00:18:29
Right.

00:18:29
You wanna fortify the microbiome.

00:18:31
And metformin, exactly metformin is gonna fortify the microbiome.

00:18:34
But to hear your question about Rapomycin, We wrote an article about Rapamycin 3 years ago,

00:18:39
and now I just did the podcast with Ross.

00:18:41
Now Ross definitely has a financial bet on pushing Rapamycin.

00:18:44
Right?

00:18:44
Because he

00:18:44
sells 1 of the supplements or the company that is making it.

00:18:48
I will say that to his credit, the the science has changed.

00:18:52
When we first started looking at Rapamycin, like, 6 years ago, we realized it was a drug

00:18:56
that they gave to people that had organ transplants.

00:18:58
Okay.

00:18:59
Because of, again, this profound ability to suppress mtor.

00:19:02
Yeah.

00:19:02
Now the problem with suppressing mtor is, like, it's a game of balancing.

00:19:07
Right?

00:19:07
Like, there's sometimes where we don't wanna suppress too much at the same time.

00:19:10
Exactly.

00:19:11
It's like taking human growth hormone.

00:19:13
Like, I'm a huge supporter and proponent of a microdose of growth hormone.

00:19:18
Soon as you're 35 and older, if you can if you can get it, again, not the bro body building

00:19:22
type.

00:19:22
Right?

00:19:23
Yeah.

00:19:23
The Pfizer pharmaceutical quality or the genotropin or whatever that's out there,

00:19:27
Norditropin, the stuff that comes in a pen.

00:19:29
Because there's so much research on growth hormone that shows that when you use a micro

00:19:34
precise dose of growth hormone, it simulates a very perfectly healthy cellular cell.

00:19:39
Yeah.

00:19:40
Right?

00:19:40
So you're literally looking at, like, taking your if you're a forty five year old plus man

00:19:43
or woman and you start using a 1 or 2 IU dose of growth hormone in the morning when you wake

00:19:48
up, you will literally reverse your biological age to, like, a healthy cellular age of when

00:19:53
you are, like, at peak.

00:19:55
So, like, 18 to 22.

00:19:56
Right?

00:19:57
I've been using human growth hormone now for 3 years, and I don't think I'll go off of it.

00:20:02
And again, I take my wife takes 1.

00:20:03
I, you, and I take 2.

00:20:04
I use my biological ages in my early twenties.

00:20:07
People know what I look like.

00:20:08
I mean, I have no issues or energy.

00:20:12
I mean, like, I sleep like a baby.

00:20:14
So, I mean, like, I know what it does.

00:20:16
But, again, it's another one of those drugs slash nations that people don't when I say

00:20:21
people, I I mean, the the dark side, if we wanna call people, they don't want people using

00:20:22
because it in, how would then that benefit big pharma?

00:20:30
True story 2014, a very, very famous doctor, which I'm never allowed to mention his name,

00:20:34
but you guys know who this person said to me in person.

00:20:37
He said, Jay, if metformin and growth human growth hormone were in the water supply, there

00:20:41
would be no hospitals on the planet.

00:20:43
Not That's what he said.

00:20:46
Powerful.

00:20:46
Yeah.

00:20:46
And this is a very smart person, very, very famous.

00:20:49
Yeah.

00:20:50
And so, again,

00:20:50
it's not like the

00:20:50
elite don't know what is out there that we can use as adjuvants to literally make us

00:20:57
impervious.

00:20:58
But,

00:20:58
again, if I was starting from the beginning, I would tell you that 1st line of defense is

00:21:03
being lean.

00:21:04
2nd line of defense is knowing if you have a hormonal deficiency.

00:21:07
Yeah.

00:21:07
3rd line of defense is becoming hormonally optimized.

00:21:09
And then after those 3 things are met, you start looking into using peptides, human growth

00:21:14
hormone, form, and all these things.

00:21:15
But again, if you just very basic, it's you know, how do I if I'm not lean

00:21:20
Yeah.

00:21:20
I wanna get lean.

00:21:21
I have to make sure I don't have a hormonal deficiency.

00:21:23
Because if I have a hormonal deficiency, all systems are haywire.

00:21:27
Yeah.

00:21:27
So it's very difficult to have energy to work out, to do cardio, to fast, to do all these

00:21:31
things.

00:21:31
Right?

00:21:31
But to back to your original question about on top of the g and and you know, using, Robert

00:21:37
Meissen, everyone should fast.

00:21:39
Yeah.

00:21:40
I'm a big, obviously, you guys don't have that book up, but my late book is 30 days to shreds,

00:21:45
and it really yeah.

00:21:46
It really honestly is.

00:21:48
And I because I've read them all.

00:21:49
It's the best book ever written on fat loss, but in a way that is relatable to the average

00:21:54
person, right, because we teach you if you're this guy, which is the £100 metabolic emergency

00:22:01
or you're us and you're, you know, wanting to get a 5, you know, 5% body fat and chiseled for

00:22:06
whatever is or a bodybuilding show or a physique show or a bikini show, whatever it is.

00:22:10
Like, it's all in there.

00:22:11
Right?

00:22:11
And we use everything in the kitchen sink, and we also give you a program to do nothing.

00:22:15
Right?

00:22:15
Like, you don't have any access to anything.

00:22:17
You're gonna do this naturally.

00:22:18
Go this way.

00:22:19
Right?

00:22:19
You're not gonna get the results of the guy who has everything.

00:22:21
Yeah.

00:22:22
But you still can get results.

00:22:24
Right?

00:22:24
And we I have pictures, dude, people.

00:22:26
It's really incredible because I don't know what to do with them.

00:22:29
I've got, like, 20 before and afters right now of people that literally have lost a £150 in

00:22:33
less than 6 months.

00:22:34
They're unreal.

00:22:34
Like, they're like, you look at these things and you're like, oh my god, this is so

00:22:37
profound, but we don't know what we're gonna do with them yet.

00:22:39
And all of them are like, oh, I want you to show my story.

00:22:41
So we're attempting to figure out what we're gonna do with it.

00:22:43
But I know that 30 days to shreds works.

00:22:46
I know that fasting works.

00:22:47
I know that if you're a man or woman without any, understanding of training or size or

00:22:53
anything, if you just can get your body to fast for 22 hours, once out of every 7 days, you

00:23:00
will live longer and stronger than the person.

00:23:02
Because, again, what fasting does back to your original question is it increases autophagy.

00:23:06
It increases hormones, horror mesas.

00:23:08
And to not be a door can get really granular with what those things mean.

00:23:12
The simplest way for the average person to understand is that it literally means it's a

00:23:15
cellular fumigation.

00:23:17
Yeah.

00:23:17
So when you allow your body again through fasting to have hermetic response and

00:23:22
autophagic response, you're getting rid of all cells, which are, as you know, senescent cells.

00:23:26
Right.

00:23:27
And senescent cells are basically the gunk that's internal.

00:23:30
Yeah.

00:23:30
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Things are just hanging out.

00:24:10
And, dude, everyone has senescent cells.

00:24:12
It's part of life.

00:24:13
Yeah.

00:24:14
The harder you train, the more you're like me, the more senescent cells you produce, right,

00:24:18
because you're sloughing off so much in the work that you do that you have to do a way of

00:24:24
cleansing.

00:24:25
I mean, that's why I tell people that fasting is so important.

00:24:27
Now to say, because I know you have an audience to do this because people ask me all the time.

00:24:30
They're like, bro, talk about nutrition.

00:24:32
Like, what do you think of Keto or carnivore?

00:24:34
Right?

00:24:34
And I always tell people, like, all that stuff is nonsense because, not saying I'm not casting

00:24:40
shade on any of those programs, but, like, you have to learn how to become metabolically

00:24:43
flexible.

00:24:44
We talk about that.

00:24:44
That's a big one.

00:24:45
Of course.

00:24:46
But, like, people have to understand that, like, you feel your body relative to its

00:24:52
energetic demand.

00:24:52
That's right.

00:24:53
You're a body builder and you try to go without eating carbs, you're dumbass.

00:24:56
Right?

00:24:57
Period.

00:24:57
Your body needs to replace glycogen.

00:25:00
If you're a Ironman or my athlete and you wanna use a keto diet or a carnivore diet, that's

00:25:04
fine.

00:25:05
Right?

00:25:05
Because your body absolutely scientifically provably Right.

00:25:08
Can get buy by using fat as its primary fuel source.

00:25:11
But if you're like us and you just wanna look better naked as you get older, you wanna

00:25:14
utilize everything.

00:25:15
Right?

00:25:16
Plus, why do you wanna private yourself of food sources.

00:25:18
You know, every person and, again, I say this.

00:25:21
A lot of people do not know this, but I say this about Keto Bros and Keto Hoes.

00:25:26
Because I literally did a ketogenic diet for 3 years.

00:25:30
Okay.

00:25:30
I was one of the very first people that was involved in doing this.

00:25:33
Lal McDonald, who's completely insane, who wrote the first book on ketogenic dieting,

00:25:38
which was called ketogenic diet, Ethereum practice, which was published in, like, 97 or

00:25:42
98.

00:25:43
Was one of his crash test dummies for 3 years, testing the ketogenic diet.

00:25:46
I know everything there is to know about ketogenic diets.

00:25:49
I got shredded on it, and I also crash my insulin metabolism.

00:25:52
I know what happens when you stay in ketosis for a long time.

00:25:55
Now if you need to stay in ketosis for a medical reason Yeah.

00:25:58
Staying in ketosis is absolute Bafunery.

00:26:01
You you you you literally will retard your insulin metabolism.

00:26:05
Yeah.

00:26:06
All these people that stay in carnivore or Keto, especially women.

00:26:12
No.

00:26:12
Yeah.

00:26:12
Especially women, they fuck up their metabolism.

00:26:15
Right.

00:26:15
They crash their thyroid so hard that they literally permanently alter their body's

00:26:21
ability to burn calories.

00:26:22
And then they there's damage.

00:26:23
Yeah.

00:26:24
You know,

00:26:24
and then they, you know, attempt to reverse diet and they do all these things.

00:26:27
Yeah.

00:26:27
And it's like, no dude, your thyroid doesn't work anymore.

00:26:30
Don't realize that insulin is antibody.

00:26:32
Insulin is 100%.

00:26:33
We need

00:26:33
it for

00:26:34
a building.

00:26:34
Right?

00:26:35
100%.

00:26:36
And and we'll they tried to hack it.

00:26:38
Look.

00:26:38
They tried to hack it and, again, I was part of this with the cyclical ketogenic diet, which is

00:26:43
6 days, keto, 2 days ramming carbs in your body, and you know, getting all the anabolic

00:26:48
cascades and processes of having a higher insulin.

00:26:51
But again, even that, there's just too many downstream effects.

00:26:55
Things go wrong.

00:26:56
It's not you said it best.

00:26:57
It's not maintainable.

00:26:59
Yeah.

00:26:59
That's right.

00:27:00
You cannot stay in a deficit where you don't get insulin in your body.

00:27:04
Now, again, the scientists, dorks will come and say, Jay, that's not true.

00:27:07
You know, if you eat enough protein through keto, or what is it when you convert sugar into

00:27:12
protein.

00:27:13
Yeah.

00:27:13
So it's like Luca neogenesis.

00:27:14
Luca neogenesis.

00:27:15
So the reality is is like, yeah.

00:27:17
Sure.

00:27:17
You can eat a lot of protein and you can get carbs from it, but it's an inefficient process.

00:27:21
You can't replete muscle glycogen.

00:27:23
Yeah.

00:27:23
It's it's a backup, like a fail safe.

00:27:25
But, dude, every woman and man that stays on either a carnivore or a keto diet, again,

00:27:30
hardcore for a long time, fucks themselves up.

00:27:32
Yeah.

00:27:33
And you will always hear them again honest ones that can admit it, they will come out and they

00:27:38
will say, yeah, I made a mistake.

00:27:40
Now the smart ones, and there's a really, really smart guy in this tamp area.

00:27:44
You might know him Danny Bag guy.

00:27:45
He's a really good friend of mine.

00:27:46
He's a big influencer.

00:27:47
Yeah.

00:27:47
He's a carnivore guy, and he will always talk about.

00:27:49
He's like carnivore is meant to still replete glycogen.

00:27:53
You have to have refeeds.

00:27:55
Yeah.

00:27:55
So the smart people have adapted it to know that, like, no, you, you know, you you gotta

00:27:59
add carbohydrates in at specific times.

00:28:01
Again, especially if you train at some form of intensity where you build muscle.

00:28:04
Yeah.

00:28:05
Yeah.

00:28:05
It's it's not possible.

00:28:06
You know, so it's like, I always tell people, don't get fixated on the energy.

00:28:10
Get fixated on the metabolic flex How flexible are you?

00:28:14
Are you a body builder then, hey, you can fast?

00:28:16
Yeah.

00:28:16
And you can eat.

00:28:17
Yeah.

00:28:17
Okay.

00:28:18
If you're a triathlete, you can absolutely fast and eat fat.

00:28:23
Yeah.

00:28:23
But you gotta learn what is your energy demand, and then you've you feed yourself relative to

00:28:28
Mhmm.

00:28:29
It's that simple.

00:28:29
He's like he's like the perfect guest for the show.

00:28:31
You know, I'll just come be our 3rd host.

00:28:35
Bring you on full time.

00:28:36
But, man, that was that was so good.

00:28:38
So much information.

00:28:39
We wanna obviously shout you out and plug you and and let you talk about Okay.

00:28:43
Where can people find you online?

00:28:45
You have an awesome online community.

00:28:46
I'm a member of.

00:28:47
That's actually how we connected.

00:28:48
Yes, sir.

00:28:48
Matt's gonna become a member of it, obviously.

00:28:51
Talk about what that is, man, and and where can people get your books, especially the 30 days

00:28:55
to shreds, because that thing is I have the copy of it.

00:28:57
It's freaking awesome.

00:28:58
So Yeah.

00:28:58
Thank you.

00:28:59
So for sure, in fact, for you guys to bring me on shoot.

00:29:01
Absolutely.

00:29:02
Hell yeah, man.

00:29:02
Important.

00:29:03
This was amazing.

00:29:03
We had an incredible conversation.

00:29:05
So easiest way.

00:29:06
And whenever I do podcasts now, we created a, a basically a vanity URL.

00:29:10
It's jcampbell.com free forward slash free books.

00:29:12
Okay.

00:29:13
And

00:29:13
then get every one of these books for free.

00:29:14
The only 2, they don't get it for free are the 2 newest ones.

00:29:17
The peptides in the 30 days to shreds because it's still on sale on Amazon, but we do get the

00:29:21
first two chapters of each.

00:29:22
Cool.

00:29:22
And

00:29:23
then there's all sorts of new stuff that we just added to it.

00:29:25
So the peptide cheat sheet, which is amazing.

00:29:28
Right?

00:29:28
Because, like, the number one question that people have about peptides is, like, how much

00:29:31
water did I put in the vial?

00:29:32
Yeah.

00:29:32
So we created this.

00:29:33
Calculator online.

00:29:34
Yeah.

00:29:34
So we have that to but, you know, they that that becomes hard.

00:29:39
That's what Courtney was saying on the agent help podcast.

00:29:41
She was like, dude, the reason I love you so much She's like, I literally listened to an

00:29:44
Instagram reel you did.

00:29:46
Like, it was probably 2 months ago.

00:29:47
I don't remember, but he was like, I I said it.

00:29:49
I was like, look, if you don't have a 100 IQ, you shouldn't do it.

00:29:53
She's like, it's so savage.

00:29:56
You know, you know?

00:29:56
Unapologetic though.

00:29:57
I freaking love that.

00:29:58
No.

00:29:58
But, I mean, it's true.

00:29:59
And, I mean, we've learned

00:30:00
Here it is.

00:30:00
We learned when I put my first pep, I course out into the world 3 years ago, which was

00:30:04
really good.

00:30:05
It was, again, with Nick Andrews.

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But, like, we have so many people that would ask that were like, dude, you're not gonna

00:30:10
understand this until you practice.

00:30:12
Mhmm.

00:30:12
And

00:30:12
and and and and and again, and and true story, because I don't want people to think that I'm

00:30:15
that much smarter than them because I'm not The difference between an expert peptide user and a

00:30:20
non one is just a person that actually injects themselves.

00:30:20
That's it.

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You just have to inject yourself and learn what works.

00:30:27
Yeah.

00:30:32
Thing, right, knowing.

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I mean, you guys know.

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It

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doesn't hurt.

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You can jam yourself with a thirty two gauge needle in belly and you never feel anything.

00:30:38
You can even do it here.

00:30:39
Right?

00:30:39
But my knee.

00:30:40
Yeah.

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But there is a needle phobia.

00:30:42
Right?

00:30:42
There is absolutely a needle phobia of so once you overcome and by the way, the word for that

00:30:46
is called Taranaphobia

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Toranophobia.

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Yeah.

00:30:48
Yeah.

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It's crazy,

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but I

00:30:49
There's also Placebo too.

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Oh, absolutely.

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I mean, I mean, everything is everything.

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Again, if we go back to the meta and and and talk about spiritual.

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Yeah.

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We're shells.

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We really are energy.

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Yeah.

00:31:01
Yeah.

00:31:01
So if, like, if you know your energy, you're not gonna die from a needle injection.

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You

00:31:07
don't even feel physical pain unless you allow your mind to

00:31:10
feel yourself up, you get all scared of it, and then it hurts

00:31:12
if

00:31:13
you say I'm gonna inject myself with this peptide, and I am going to heal whatever injury

00:31:18
I have, and I'm never gonna feel pain.

00:31:20
And you literally close your eyes and you create that reality.

00:31:22
Exactly what happens.

00:31:23
Power of the subconscious mind.

00:31:24
Yeah.

00:31:24
That's right.

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100% but people, you just said it.

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They get so they hyperventilate.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

00:31:29
They get so afraid of doing it.

00:31:31
You know?

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And that's, like, half the emails or, you know, questions I get from people is, like, so and so

00:31:35
said something's gonna happen or do any studies.

00:31:37
I mean, whenever I have people message me or ask me and say, I'm not gonna do peptides

00:31:41
because I don't know enough studies.

00:31:42
I always laugh on them and says, no.

00:31:43
You don't know anything because the truth is is there's yeah.

00:31:46
That's what I should say.

00:31:47
Like, 40 or 50 years of studies in Russia.

00:31:51
Yeah.

00:31:51
Russia has been using peptides and bioregulators for 50

00:31:54
years.

00:31:55
Yeah.

00:31:55
Oh, where?

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I had

00:31:56
human trials too.

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That's what I

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was about.

00:31:58
In humans.

00:31:59
Yeah.

00:31:59
Exactly.

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So it's like when people say there's no studies, it just means you don't have access to

00:32:03
them.

00:32:04
Yeah.

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100%.

00:32:04
Just like I couldn't find anything about testosterone, it's because I couldn't read

00:32:08
Russian and Bulgaria.

00:32:09
Yeah.

00:32:09
Yeah.

00:32:09
But they all knew, you know.

00:32:10
Yeah.

00:32:11
Absolutely.

00:32:11
The craziest part about testosterone as a final thought is there's never been a single,

00:32:17
randomized, controlled trial that's ever shown that blocking estrogen helps when somebody is

00:32:23
using testosterone.

00:32:23
Think about that.

00:32:24
Yeah.

00:32:24
And yet it's 80% or 90% of the medical the community is to block estrogen when they're in

00:32:31
testosterone.

00:32:31
Because again, it comes from body building subculture.

00:32:33
They think you got a high estrogen and low high testosterone and low estrogen.

00:32:37
Yeah.

00:32:38
Which is the exact opposite and the truth.

00:32:39
Yeah.

00:32:40
Yeah.

00:32:40
It's nuts.

00:32:40
And in summary, man, we we're on the same wavelength.

00:32:43
This people listening, man, be your own doctor, right, like, 3 freaking go educate yourself

00:32:47
instead of just trusting someone's kind of blanket opinion, right?

00:32:50
And, like, obviously, docs are out there to make money.

00:32:52
Right?

00:32:52
They're all, you know, I'm trying to make money in my practice too, but not at the expense of

00:32:56
helping people in way.

00:32:57
So I

00:32:57
think one of the biggest things, though, that I've done over the past year and you're

00:33:00
obviously a voice, for this is I've actually eliminated a lot of people and focused on just

00:33:06
the You have

00:33:07
to, bro.

00:33:07
Because you have to.

00:33:08
It gets so noisy.

00:33:09
So you have to pick, and then you're like, who speaks most intelligently?

00:33:13
Obviously Jay Campbell's good

00:33:14
for you to tell this.

00:33:15
You know what I mean?

00:33:16
So it's like, you gotta eliminate a lot of voices and focus in on the 1 or 2 that

00:33:21
ultimately that you wanna hear.

00:33:22
It it's harder for you guys.

00:33:23
Like, even my daughters, I mean, what are you guys, like, 2018, 19, 20?

00:33:27
How many?

00:33:27
Like, for you help?

00:33:29
22.

00:33:29
So you it's way harder for you guys because you guys came up in a world where there's so many

00:33:33
signals.

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Yeah.

00:33:34
Yeah.

00:33:34
There's so much noise.

00:33:35
There's so many people talking.

00:33:37
So it's like, how do you just sir, or how do you decipher, like, who do I listen to?

00:33:41
So it's like, I tell people, and I do this with my daughters, like, you gotta have an inner

00:33:44
work practice.

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Like, you literally do have to go out 10 minutes 15 minutes in the morning and just sit

00:33:49
in nature and listen to the birds.

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Don't have your phone.

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Don't have headphones, Bluetooth.

00:33:53
Don't have, you know, shock or stuff.

00:33:55
I mean, literally just sit there and listen to nature.

00:33:58
And once you start doing that regularly though, you absolutely will develop a practice that

00:34:02
will allow you to determine who do you wanna listen to?

00:34:05
Because you cannot be bullshitted when you're connected to source.

00:34:08
You cannot.

00:34:08
But source connection comes from practice.

00:34:10
Mhmm.

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Just

00:34:11
so like you guys have to lift to build your body and get bigger muscles and eat more

00:34:15
protein to build, you gotta practice your meditative or contemplative practice.

00:34:19
You gotta do it every day.

00:34:20
It's and and and it doesn't have to be sitting in the Lotus position.

00:34:23
Yeah.

00:34:24
Meditation.

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It's just being still.

00:34:26
Right?

00:34:27
It's getting away from all this nonsense and all this technology and just literally sitting

00:34:32
in nature and listening.

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It's really that simple.

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I mean, if you can get close to an ocean, that's better.

00:34:36
Right?

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But, I mean, the more deep you can get into nature and connect with the pounds and and

00:34:42
really the awareness of it, the better you're gonna be.

00:34:45
Yeah.

00:34:45
Yeah.

00:34:45
That's something that I've enjoyed about, like, specifically running.

00:34:48
Is that all out with these detached and won't won't wear headphones, and then we'll leave my

00:34:53
phone behind just to hear the birds' chair.

00:34:55
Dude, just walking.

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I tell people this all the time, and this is not woo woo.

00:34:59
Think it's woo woo, but literally the birds will change the tonality of their singing to

00:35:05
lower your cortisol.

00:35:07
So if you go outside, any of you guys can do this right now, if you go outside in the

00:35:11
morning and you're stressed out, you know, you just had somebody cancel on you or somebody MF2

00:35:15
or whatever, and you just, like, fuck this.

00:35:17
And you go outside and you just sit down in the backyard and you listen to the birds, I swear

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to god within 5 minutes, your your stress will be gone.

00:35:25
Because they literally have a tonality to and, again, it's all natural.

00:35:29
We're all connected.

00:35:30
You guys know this.

00:35:30
Yeah.

00:35:30
We're all connected.

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Like, they will lower your stress.

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Yeah.

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Just from the singing.

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You know?

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It's it's it's amazing, but we're so disconnected from nature Yeah.

00:35:39
Because of all this.

00:35:40
And again, it's all about design, but, like, it it's a choice to stay connected.

00:35:44
Yeah.

00:35:44
True.

00:35:45
You can become connected to nature in a second.

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You know?

00:35:48
Like, literally when I go home right now, hopefully if it's raining.

00:35:51
I think it was starting to sprinkle when we got here, but I will literally go out and I will

00:35:54
sit in my backyard.

00:35:55
It's been a very productive day.

00:35:56
And I will sit in my backyard.

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I mean, I mean, if it's pouring, I won't because I'm not gonna soap, but I'll sit in the

00:36:02
rain if it's sprinkling on me, but I'll just sit.

00:36:04
The problem with sitting in the rain is you can't hear nature.

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You just sit in

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the water.

00:36:07
Right?

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But, like, I'll sit in my backyard and do nothing for 20 minutes.

00:36:11
Yeah.

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And my wife will not I mean, I'll have sometimes I'll bring my phone out and I'll

00:36:15
leave it on, like, the thing.

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But, like, my wife knows when I go out like, alright.

00:36:18
Don't interrupt me.

00:36:19
Yeah.

00:36:19
I'm a

00:36:19
Don't come out.

00:36:20
Yeah.

00:36:20
Don't come out and, like, say, hey.

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I go pick up so and so or blah blah blah.

00:36:23
You know what I mean?

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Just let me be

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here.

00:36:25
Yeah.

00:36:25
I I don't advantage of it.

00:36:26
I don't sit there for an hour.

00:36:28
Yeah.

00:36:28
But, you know, even if it's just 10 or 15 minutes, like, it's just

00:36:31
enough.

00:36:31
Yeah.

00:36:31
That is decompressing parasympathetic.

00:36:34
Yeah.

00:36:35
Because of, again, we are, especially guys like us, like, we are on on all the time.

00:36:39
Yeah.

00:36:39
On on on.

00:36:40
Right?

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So it's like, I wanna just lower and get

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off.

00:36:44
Right.

00:36:44
Congrats.

00:36:44
Yeah.

00:36:45
It's huge, man.

00:36:45
So jcampbell.com slash forward slash free books.

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Free books.

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Where's what's your Instagram?

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Jcampbell33 is everywhere.

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Everywhere.

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YouTube.

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Okay.

00:36:53
Twitter, Instagram.

00:36:54
Guys, go get copy of these freaking books, man.

00:36:56
They are next level game changers.

00:36:57
Man, I got one more question for you.

00:36:59
I use this free guest on the show.

00:37:00
It's kind of become my thing.

00:37:02
But, when we talk about living fully fueled, right, you have to hit you have to be optimized

00:37:06
in all areas of life.

00:37:07
So we have the pillars that we we try to subscribe by is fuel, movement, sleep, mindset,

00:37:13
spirit, and work.

00:37:14
Right?

00:37:14
And when you have 6 of those optimize, you are fully fueled.

00:37:17
Tell me, man, what is what is Jay Campbell living fully fueled look like?

00:37:21
Living fully fueled for Jay Campbell is 7 hours of sleep at night.

00:37:25
Obviously maintaining my hormonal optimization regimen, maintaining my growth hormone or

00:37:29
peptide regimen, you know, making sure that I spend a solid hour with my daughters every

00:37:34
night.

00:37:35
We just changed we just changed our, you know, familial with your spousal obligation things,

00:37:41
whereas, like, my daughters are just gonna live with me full time.

00:37:43
You know, I I raised them.

00:37:44
Yeah.

00:37:45
I mean, I raised them, and then we sent them out here because of the vaccine stuff to be

00:37:48
with their accent.

00:37:49
My my ex, you know, to her credit has mostly been a Disneyland mom, but has stepped up in

00:37:53
the last 2 years, but then she's just not mom.

00:37:55
So my both of my daughters are, you know, becoming an issue.

00:37:58
So we decided literally 2 days ago, we had a group team powwow and we're like, you guys are

00:38:02
gonna live with us full So it used to be it was every other week, so I always would get a

00:38:06
chance.

00:38:06
But now I gotta figure out how I'm gonna spend an hour with each one every night, right,

00:38:09
because they're gonna be with me every day.

00:38:11
I mean, Monday through not Saturday Sunday because they got their own stuff going on.

00:38:14
But so that and then really dude, man, just I mean, I I know I do this to my community and to

00:38:19
the people that rely on me out there just to continue to be a source of wisdom.

00:38:23
But, to really strengthen and deepen my roots with my connection with on.

00:38:27
You know what I mean?

00:38:28
And that is, for me, that is, like I said, just spending time in nature.

00:38:31
Yeah.

00:38:32
Okay.

00:38:32
You know what I mean?

00:38:32
Like, I mean, obviously, I pray and I have my affirmations and I do all that stuff every day,

00:38:36
but, I mean, I really wanna get out in nature as much as possible.

00:38:39
Man.

00:38:39
Love that.

00:38:40
I freaking love that.

00:38:40
That was a great answer, brother.

00:38:42
That is looking full fuel, man.

00:38:43
Thank you so much.

00:38:44
Thank you

00:38:44
so much.

00:38:44
Thank you so much, bro.

00:38:45
Love you, man.

00:38:45
Love full food.

00:38:46
Let let

00:38:46
it be on limits.

00:38:47
Thanks, guys.