Mastering the Art of Clean Bulking and Building Lean Muscle
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Mastering the Art of Clean Bulking and Building Lean Muscle

The episode begins with an introduction and an overview of the topics to be covered. The discussion then delves into the challenge of balancing muscle gain while maintaining a healthy diet. The importance of setting clear goals for bulking and understanding metabolic health is highlighted. The conversation continues with strategies for maintaining lean muscle and flexibility, all within the context of living a fully fueled lifestyle. (0:00) Introduction and episode overview (0:16) Balancing muscle gain and maintaining a healthy diet (2:18) Setting goals for bulking and understanding metabolic health (4:19) Maintaining lean muscle, flexibility, and the fully fueled lifestyle

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What's up?

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We're doing the lifestyle podcast with your host, Matt Tack, Doctor Alfred Lessey.

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If I said lifestyle, it's still the full field podcast.

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Oh, nice.

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Always.

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Yeah.

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Answer some questions, man.

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I got a a whole list here.

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One actually came in from our producer Jake behind the camera.

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He's gonna he's gonna ask the question here, so we're gonna answer these live right now.

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And, get some, you know, insight based on our experience, I think, and and just on knowledge

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behind this thing.

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You know?

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Well, I know you got some insight on some of these questions from stuff that you ride.

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So Oh, yeah.

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Here's the first one.

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When bulking, how do I balance building muscle without gaining too much fat?

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Yeah.

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That's an interesting question, man, because, like, everyone always thinks, like, to bulk.

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I mean, you do need to be as an a calorie surplus, for sure.

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Right?

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But, like, you can do that clean.

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The truth is, in my opinion, is it might take you a little bit longer to bulk, to really,

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like, put on size, but not gonna be inflaming your body in the process.

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And overall, maybe feeling like crap just because the stuff that you're putting into your

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body isn't optimal nutrition.

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Right?

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Like anyone could go bulk and eat freaking 5000 calories of Mickey B's, but is that even gonna

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help?

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You know what I mean?

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Because it's just junk.

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You're gonna gain weight from it.

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Right.

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You know, I think of it look like this.

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You know, somewhat one of the thing that we teach in the optimizers program is the building

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the foundation, right, And we always focus on lean muscle mass.

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Like, how are we building that muscular structure?

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Quality muscle.

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That is ultimately, you're gonna create a solid skeletal structure, right, that ultimately then

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leads into, hey, I'm dropping a few LPs.

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I'm building the right foundation.

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Now we can focus on the cardiovascular point.

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So that cardiovascular point is is crucial, but you know, people get in line with, hey, I wanna

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I wanna lose weight as fast as possible, but the reality is, you know, you're choosing to do

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when you choose to, like, operate in the full field lifestyle.

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You're choosing something that you're gonna it's a lifestyle.

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You're gonna be doing the rest of your life.

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For sure.

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So how are we operating that and building the foundation where you're building that muscle

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mass first.

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You're building the structural foundation, and then we're leading into, okay, how can we I

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start optimizing your B02, Matt.

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I think my question I would have like a follow-up question for this person would be,

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what are you bulking for?

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Like, what is the goal?

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Are you bulking?

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Because you gotta shit like, a performance.

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You gotta are you a football player?

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You need your body to put on weight, whatever it might be.

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Then in that case, like, maybe it doesn't matter.

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Just get the get the weight on, right, or if you're power lifter or something, but if you're

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talking longevity, man, like, just take your time to bolt.

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Doesn't, you know, if you want to put on muscle, do it the right way.

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It's going to be a little bit of longer play, but you'll put on quality muscle over time.

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That then is gonna be this healthy metabolically, you know, active tissue that you

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just have on your body forever.

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Oh, sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No.

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It's a it's one of those crucial things that you have to understand.

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What's the long game here?

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You know, our landing game and who we're speaking to right now, is, you know, our guys

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that are probably former athletes that, man, I I've lost it for a while, and I need to get my

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mojo back.

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Yeah.

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And so how do I reduce this weight because I'm kind of like, I'm I'm scared.

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You know, their reality is they're scared, like, because they're metabolic.

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It's coming like.

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Yeah.

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You know, what is it?

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You know, I'm seeing my parents get sick.

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I saw, you know, we're seeing more and more people in their thirties get cancer, and we're

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seeing more and more people, like, as they enter their forties.

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Just so metabolically unflexible.

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Is it inflexible, unflexible?

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I don't know.

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I'm trying to

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get that word.

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It's a

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Yeah.

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But the reality is is like, how are you expanding yourself for the long game?

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And we always think longevity to getting that getting yourself metabolically flexible and one

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thing, you know, to know, just we always hit on this, like, nutritional element.

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It's like, no one you're the cadence of the method of operation in your day to day.

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Yeah.

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Because, like, I don't necessarily wanna load all this food into my stomach in the middle of

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the day when I can't, like, then then my mind is, like, all has all gone to my stomach Yeah.

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Where I can't operate, and maintain that flexibility where I'm optimized.

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I need to focus on that work element that we have in our pillar.

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That's right.

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So I think, you know, the reality is this is when you're you're building up bull.

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I you know, I'm not a big bull guy.

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I'm a I'm a lean muscleman.

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How do I maintain that flexibility?

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Athletic.

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Look.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And so that is longevity.

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That's longevity right there.

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Yep.

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So the reality is is that, you know, you just you to maintain metabolic flexibility, yeah,

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it's the long game.

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Build that with muscular structure first, and then we operate in the cardiovascular

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environment where you're building up your VO2 max for the long game as well.

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So that's what it means to live fully fueled.

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Love that.

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Right there.

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Longevity.