Muscle is the Longevity Organ - How Resistance Training Boosts Health Span
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Muscle is the Longevity Organ - How Resistance Training Boosts Health Span

The episode kicks off with an introduction to Season 2 and a focus on the Movement Pillar. The importance of resistance training is highlighted, followed by a discussion on synchronizing the six life pillars. Walking and VO2 max are explored as pathways to longevity. Balancing business, health, and stress is examined, along with the role of exercise in mental health and the importance of muscle. The episode delves into muscular density and aging, neurological benefits of resistance training, and the concept of exercise as a lifelong commitment. Community and convenience in exercise are discussed, as well as intermittent exercise and cardio misconceptions. Muscle building, lean mass maintenance, cardiovascular integration, and caloric efficiency are explored. (0:00) Introduction to Season 2 and Movement Pillar (1:33) Resistance Training and Its Importance (2:22) Synchronizing the Six Life Pillars (4:13) Walking and VO2 Max: Pathways to Longevity (5:08) Balancing Business, Health, and Stress (7:00) Exercise's Role in Mental Health and Muscle Importance (10:12) Muscular Density and Aging (14:41) Neurological Benefits of Resistance Training (16:19) Exercise as a Lifelong Commitment (17:08) Community and Convenience in Exercise (19:11) Intermittent Exercise and Cardio Misconceptions (21:11) Muscle Building and Lean Mass Maintenance (23:31) Cardiovascular Integration and Caloric Efficiency (25:11) Thermogenic Benefits of Muscle (27:00) Physical Protection Through Strength (29:20) Next Episode Preview: Exercise Routines (30:06) Optimal Muscle to Body Fat Ratio Discussion (35:10) Achieving Ideal Fitness Outcomes

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Season 2, fall fuel was up, baby.

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Was up.

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My man.

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I'm excited.

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We're talking about basically all things longevity, but we're diving into movement.

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The pillar and movement.

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I was excited about this one, man.

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When when we came up with the pillars and the the idea for what we're gonna be talking about,

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this was one of the one of the ones I was looking forward

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Dude, it's like, I have listened to actually a lot of podcasts recently and just diving in, to

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Movement in the necessity of movement on a daily basis, but, how important muscle muscular

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intent intensity?

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Yeah.

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Or I should say density is the longevity overall, but, what let's let's go top down of

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what we're gonna be talking about today.

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And then multiple tap into those Yeah.

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Micro pillars.

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Yeah.

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And I think, man, like, at the the kind of base of that, but a movement is vital for life.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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What, like, what object besides, like, a plant doesn't move.

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Every every animal moves.

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Every, like, we have to move.

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Right.

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You don't move, you die.

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Right?

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Become sedentary, your body starts to age, things deteriorate, and that's death.

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Right?

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So everybody knows that.

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Every like, I was thinking this is worried about everyone knows you have to move.

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Everyone knows you have to exercise.

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It's good for you.

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That's not like a foreign concept anymore.

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Like people are walking around like, I didn't have no idea what exercise is.

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If you are dude, you're living under a rock.

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Yeah.

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Everyone knows that.

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If people are not exercising or doing something, they're that's a choice Right?

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Like they're choosing not to.

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For sure.

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Like, I understand people are busy and and all that, but, like, that is a choice to not move

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your body even going for a walk or something like that.

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Right?

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So, yeah, man, I think in this episode, we're gonna get into I would love to get into, kind

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of like an order of importance of exercise.

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Right?

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I think you and I both sit on the same kind of, thrown of of resistance training, building

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muscle, and that kind of work as being like the pinnacle of of the most important for longevity

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and, you know, living a high performing life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's so crucial.

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I you know, just a case in point, I actually have a call with a guy that I took through a

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challenge.

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Just the over the past couple weeks, and it was really eye opening as far as, like, what his

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focus was.

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Yeah.

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And for me, I focus on, you know, you know my scorecard.

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I have the scorecard of the faith pillar, but then I have family and relationships, finance

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of business, and then fitness and health.

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Cool.

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But there's not one that takes place of the other.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They're all they all synchronize with each other.

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People important.

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My faith component is just as important because it is an element of.

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Right?

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It's how I'm protecting my body.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And so those blackout periods within my calendar.

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So I was asking them for wins during the week.

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I'm like, hey.

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What are your wins?

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And this guy, like, could not get off on his winds just for work.

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Right?

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He's, oh, just for work, just for work.

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And I'm like, well, you did you put your block out in for health and fitness?

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Yeah.

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Because I was like, you're about £40 overweight right now, and you need to have that as a

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pillar.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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You're not gonna wait for all these wins to happen in business.

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And then which I've seen that.

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And I've I've kind of been there, but I've also incorporated that blackout for a long period of

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time now Yeah.

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Being 5 or 6 years.

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As being health and fitness, a crucial piece of that element of winning each week because I

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can't just focus on my pillar of finance a business be like, hey.

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I'm crushing it.

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Yeah.

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Well, you get 10, 15 years down the road, and you're still £60 overweight.

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Yeah.

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And there hasn't been this, like, threshold of, like, oh, I need to focus.

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Like, dude, I look like a fat slob.

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And I, like, I just look awful.

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My it probably is impacting my relationships at this point.

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Right?

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Although you don't see it in the immediate, right, you want to goals, right, where you

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wanna thrive in all areas.

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Correlation of how you're gonna be living and abundantly in those other areas within the

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scorecard for, you know, that's just how I operate.

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Yeah.

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So I wanna make sure, excelling in business, but I also wanna make sure, man, I damn look

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good shirt with my shirt off.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Like, You know, that's just one of those things.

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It's like, I I I that, like, I have to level up in those areas.

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So, like, movement at that capacity.

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Yeah.

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It can start out small, and that's where I was, like, telling him, man, like, even walking

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throughout the day.

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Yeah.

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You know, one of the things that I do periodically throughout the day, just to, like,

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literally decompress from maybe a longer meeting, taking my shirt off, going outside,

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and just, like, getting exposed, being in Florida, get all that vitamin d you

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need?

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Yeah.

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Like, it's amazing.

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Yeah.

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But part of movement, right?

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But then there's also where we're gonna dig deep into this, and I'm super pumped.

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Yeah.

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Is VO 2 max.

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Right?

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And how that is a key to resistance training and, like, optimal longevity in terms of what

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that is for cardiovascular health.

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So anyways, I just wanna point that out Yeah.

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To our audience is that we're gonna be talking to, like, some high level successful business

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leaders, right, that they're like, shoot, man.

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I'm in my forties.

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I'm in my fifties at this point.

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Yeah.

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And I've I've dedicated a lot of time to making a lot of money and doing doing well Right.

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In finance of business.

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But, man, I have it dedicated anytime.

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I was still coming home, bad habits, eating, live in a relatively sedentary lifestyle at

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home with, you know, that's a time to really maximize and create,

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you know, good output.

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And that's that's really it, man.

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When we talk about, like, routines, right?

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Like, the a lot of people end up just trading time.

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Yeah.

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Like, well, I have so much time in the day.

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We it is.

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I it's a finite resource.

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Right?

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We only have so many hours in the day.

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That's an overused, like, cop out of things people say, but it's like, there there really

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is only so many hours in the day.

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Right.

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But when you're trading your physical, your physical fitness or your physical health for

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something else, you are sacrificing.

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Right?

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Like, you're sacrificing your ability for your body to be optimally healthy, and you're gonna

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feel those downstream effects.

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You know?

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So I think what what happens a lot of times is people who are high level CEO level or,

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business entrepreneurs, there's so much that goes into that, man.

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What?

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I'm seeing it.

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Bro, you are a sexy beast, man.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate that, man.

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I needed that one.

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You look at everything like that.

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I'm like, see you, bro, making making me blush over here.

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How are you going?

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Keep talking.

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Fuck.

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Where was I?

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Yeah, bro, if you're if you're a high level CEO, you know, person who who is very

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successful in that industry, That sucks a lot of your time.

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And eventually people start to get, you know, stressed out burned out.

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And and if you're not putting, effort into your physical body,

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Yeah.

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You are gonna have negative effects from that.

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Right?

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Like, you're gonna get sick more often.

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You're gonna you're gonna be that guy who's just kinda skinny fat, kinda flabby, and and

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again, maybe this looks like lack of performance at home, right, with with the wife

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and stuff like that.

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This looks like a

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Same thing.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Feeling, you know, affecting family in relation of that Depression,

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those kind of mental mental things that come from that as well, man.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, I mean, why don't we talk a little bit about, like, And again, we we touched on

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this already, the importance of muscle.

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Right?

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Why why is muscle so important?

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Give me your your, your quick, like, opinion, and then I'll I'll give mine.

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You know, for me, and I'm gonna I'm gonna let you get into the nerdy side of, like, kind of

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the science behind it all.

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Who's who's the podcast with that woman that we've been listening to a lot to recently?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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She's, Doctor Gabriel Lion dude.

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She's a really cool man.

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She's, Money.

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How old is she, too?

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Faddle.

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She's, like, she's in her fifties.

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Right?

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One's a couple businesses.

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Fantastic.

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But she just came out with a new book.

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It's all about muscle muscle centric medicine is the concept that I subscribed to that man.

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It's like, that is it's a longevity organ.

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Yeah.

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It is a longevity organ.

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Your muscles produce factors that help fight off inflammation, fight off disease, right?

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So like a lot of those those inflammatory response things, like, when you get sick, come

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from your muscle.

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So if you have big, strong pump, the muscle, you're gonna have more of that.

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You're gonna have more ability to prevent injury.

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You're gonna have more ability to, do the things, like physical things that you wanna do

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for a long time.

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Right?

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And, obviously, you're gonna look better too, right, when you have who looks better.

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Right?

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Like, the long distance runner, the cross country guy who's just got no muscle on his

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body, no fat on his body either, but it looks just like skinny rail.

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That's not that's not a longevity either, man.

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Right, or the guy, like, the Sprinters.

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Right?

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That's always, like, the the the dichotomy they show is, like, the cross country guy versus the

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Sprinter.

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The Sprinter's just jacked as hell.

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That's honestly, that's what, like, humans are meant to look like, bro.

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Exactly.

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It was even what we were talking about in the cross comparison going back to nutrition just

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for a minute is that, like, your veganistic type of philosophy versus, like, getting, you

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know, obviously, dense protein in your body that's gonna create more muscular features.

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Who are you gonna pick?

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Right.

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You gotta pick this, like, stick feature.

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Alright.

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Well, by doing this, you have to put the proper nutrients in your body.

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Animal blends, obviously.

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Right.

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But then resistance type training that then create, a a body on honestly, Like, I I was

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man, what podcast was it?

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I'm just trying to go back to a couple of the podcasts, but it was you know, guys that have

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gone through.

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I think it was Dave Asbury, but even though he's not, like, super muscular, but he was even

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saying, like, if I had to pick the 2 Yeah.

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It's the quality of what I enjoy, right, because we're always chasing a feeling.

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And so for me, like, as I got, like, dude, yeah, it's a choice to have.

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A muscular dead spot.

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Right?

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I I want to have that.

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Yeah.

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And it's also one of the things I enjoy it.

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And my wife enjoys it too.

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You know, at the same time,

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it's like one of those things I'm giving.

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It's a gift that keeps it all giving.

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Everybody.

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So Get rid of it.

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It's like and I wanna be I wanna feel confident myself.

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So why why wouldn't I, right?

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Why The this is goes back to the concept of, like, my test was my testimony.

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You can think that your best days are behind you, or they're still ahead of you.

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Right?

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And so That's cool.

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That is the energy that I'm giving my muscles is that the best days are still ahead of me.

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I can still look good.

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Well into my 60 seventies.

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I was looking at this, like, Crossway guy, Masters crossway guy this morning.

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I wish I could remember his name.

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And this dude is Jack.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, at, like, sixty some odd years old.

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If if you're looking that muscular and dense, like, you're living a pretty active lifestyle.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Whereas, You know, I'm not gonna I'm calling him out, but not calling him out.

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Like, my my father-in-law, he's in I I told him I was like, man, like, Let's let's try to drop

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a few LBs.

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Right?

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And and same thing with my dad because they haven't put time in for resistance type

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training, muscular density, whatever it is.

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Like, I mean, you pick you pick it, but when you're when you're pulling in 30, 40, even £50

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overweight, like, that's almost giving up on your body.

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And so for muscular density is you can You can hold this into well into your sixties seventies

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and having a very Yeah.

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Eighties nineties.

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Yep.

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But you gotta keep up with like, resistance type training.

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Obviously, I like incorporating weights into mine.

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Yeah.

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But you I mean, you can do that through bins.

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You can do that through a number of different were talking about how Dave Aspiry does.

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If you wanted to walk through that, but there's a ton of different resistance type mechanism

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that create muscular density.

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Yeah.

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I mean, gravity is resistance.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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You don't need weights.

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You'd go do a bunch of bodyweight squats.

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It's gonna build muscle.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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It's obviously probably not gonna build as much muscle as quickly as loading your body with

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some weight and doing squats, but it will do something.

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Right?

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You're pushing your body weight against gravity upwards and downwards.

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Right?

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Like, so, like, there's gonna be a stimulus to that.

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The thing Dave Aspre does is it's obviously, it's a, you know, really expensive kind of,

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like, niche machinery uses, but it you you put you basically are in a safe if it's like a leg

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exercise, you're in a chair pushing against this press with your legs.

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It's applying equal force back as hard as you can put.

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So you are maxing out every time.

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It's intense.

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It fries the nervous system, so you can't do this, like, multiple times a week.

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It's like once a week.

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But, I mean, that's a form of it.

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Right?

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If you're getting real, real high level biohacker, but I mean, honestly, man, anyone,

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everyone has access to a gym, right, unless you live in the middle of if you're drinking

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Oklahoma and a pasture, but then, like, go lift a cow or something.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like, everyone has access to something heavy can lift up, bro.

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Like, I'm lifting my kids up all the time.

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They're getting heavier.

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Right?

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So, like, yeah.

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You know, there's there's always stuff that you could do.

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Like, those videos, the parents who'd, like, got the kid on their bag and they're doing

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squats and stuff.

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Dude, I think he said all that.

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I love doing that.

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It's so fun.

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They love it too.

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It's a 2 for 1, but Right.

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You know, the

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Working out with

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your kids.

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The concept of muscle man is, like, you you are more primed for what life throws at you when

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you have muscle on your body.

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Your body is gonna be when you have more muscle, you're gonna scream more of those good

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hormones too.

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Yeah.

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You're gonna have more testosterone through your body.

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All these things, testosterone is not just, raw.

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Get strong, like, hormone, right, and that's what everyone thinks about.

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It's a bad rap.

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It's good for your brain, man.

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It's anti inflammatory.

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It produces that feeling of, like, confidence and stuff like that, man, it's so important.

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And if you are not optimizing your muscle, and and and using weights, right, and and you talk

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about this, bro.

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Like, that hack that you do that I've done this for a while too is doing even just like a set

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of, like, a leg workout before you go do upper body because getting blood to come from your

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legs up to your torso has to go through your groin area.

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Right?

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Infomoral artery passes right there, and it's got all the branches that go into your testes.

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That's gonna pull testosterone into your sis into circulation, right, that your body's gonna

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bind to produce more muscle.

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So that's an awesome hack.

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I love doing that, man.

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You know, just doing, like, some box jumps or, like, hitting the set of squats right before I

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go lift, you know, shoulder press or something.

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Is, gonna get your body more, like, primed to build muscle too.

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Yeah.

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So you get the and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but more circulation within the

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body more circulatory movement, but it's gonna come bottom up.

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It kind of bottom up effect, get that heart flowing, and then you can go into you realize

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that then you could squat a little bit more.

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You might be able to throw 10 to 15 more pounds out there that's added resistance.

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Is there a breaking point in terms of muscular structure, I was, listen, Ale and Alexander

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went to a conference this past weekend.

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Yep.

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And you know, obviously, guys are testing the limits.

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Right?

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You're always, like, pushing the limits in terms of, like, the skeletal structure and

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muscular density.

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But How much is resistance training and neurological thing in terms of, like, how much

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you actually can do?

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Yeah.

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Versus you know, what what actually physically your body can handle.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, the when someone's untrained or they've never worked out, like, with

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resistance before, the first adaptations that are occur are highly neurological.

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Right?

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A lot of that is, like, you know, think about the first time you ever dumbbell press, bro.

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You're like, ours are all wobbly.

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You freaking don't even know how to control this That's because your body doesn't know

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what's going on.

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So it's like the first thing that has to happen is that muscle brain connection has to get

00:15:31
locked in.

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Mhmm.

00:15:32
So those those alphamotor neurons are getting, you know, firing up, learning these patterns.

00:15:37
Mhmm.

00:15:37
The first, honestly, that's why, like, people who start lifting, they're like, man, I haven't

00:15:41
seen results in the 1st months, a month and a half, even 2 months.

00:15:44
Because a lot of that's neurological.

00:15:45
Right?

00:15:45
They're not their body's not creating new muscle.

00:15:47
It's not building the muscle yet because it's still trying to map out this, like, connection

00:15:51
between the brain and the muscle.

00:15:53
Then they, you know, you stick to it long enough.

00:15:55
You start to push it, then that's when the the gains start to happen or you start to feel like

00:15:59
that actual, like, hypertrophy, size, and muscle.

00:16:01
So a lot of it is neurological, man, and I think maybe that deters people.

00:16:05
Right?

00:16:05
Like, they're like, man, I didn't I haven't seen much from it, but they didn't give it long

00:16:09
enough, right?

00:16:09
Think that's what we're talking about here is, like, it has to be forever, right?

00:16:14
Like, I mean, like, I'm not gonna sugarcoat that.

00:16:16
You have to work out an exercise forever.

00:16:19
Forever.

00:16:19
Just do it.

00:16:20
Right?

00:16:20
Like, don't don't make excuses.

00:16:21
Oh, I'm too old or whatever.

00:16:23
Yeah.

00:16:23
Right?

00:16:23
Like, make it a thing.

00:16:25
Doing now.

00:16:25
Right?

00:16:26
Like, wherever you are now is the is the youngest you're gonna be ever again.

00:16:30
Ever.

00:16:30
So, like, you you started right now so that it becomes a lifelong habit that honestly, is

00:16:35
gonna benefit you for as long as you live, man.

00:16:38
Like, that's just the truth, you know.

00:16:39
I don't think we're here to, like, baby this for people, you know?

00:16:43
No.

00:16:43
It's like, I don't mind saying the hard stuff is, like, you're not exercising.

00:16:46
Get off your ass to exercise.

00:16:47
Yeah.

00:16:48
100%.

00:16:48
You're not eating healthy.

00:16:49
Like, you're choosing that.

00:16:50
Right?

00:16:50
Like Yeah.

00:16:51
Do better.

00:16:51
The craziest thing is, and this this happens to me, you know, the older you get, obviously, the

00:16:57
more, but I believe need there is for community.

00:17:01
In in your exercise.

00:17:03
Because before, like, if I was in high school, man, it's me.

00:17:08
Right?

00:17:08
I can go work out.

00:17:09
It's been 2 hours in the gym, but now I am a little bit more hyper focused in getting in

00:17:16
there.

00:17:16
And so I don't let my days get away from me.

00:17:18
So I have a very disciplined, Monday, Wednesday in the Friday where I have a group of guys that

00:17:24
I work out with.

00:17:26
And we do, you know, kettlebell.

00:17:28
And then if I can add in a crossfit workout, 100% I'm adding, but mainly it's hit based, And

00:17:33
then I will then bring modalities back home

00:17:38
Yeah.

00:17:38
Where I can make it super efficient and easy for me.

00:17:41
It's, like, out of Saturday, and then I get resistance in on the Peloton.

00:17:44
Like, if I, like, right now, I'm training for something, but that is easy to do.

00:17:49
Right?

00:17:49
Take quick easy decision.

00:17:51
The easier you can make the decision and the modality in the environments that you put in

00:17:57
your house the easier it is to get in shape.

00:17:59
Right?

00:18:00
Yeah.

00:18:00
I would not encourage anybody, especially when we're talking guys, hey, man.

00:18:05
It's been a while.

00:18:07
You know, I focused on business for a long time or I focused on this, whatever it is.

00:18:10
Family.

00:18:11
Yeah.

00:18:11
Family.

00:18:12
You know, it got away from me.

00:18:13
It's like, alright.

00:18:14
That how can you bring it back home and make it super efficient

00:18:17
and easy for yourself?

00:18:18
It's good.

00:18:19
And that that is always the best way.

00:18:21
Right.

00:18:22
Right?

00:18:22
Especially if you can get a trainer to come to your house.

00:18:25
Like, those things Yeah.

00:18:26
Like that aid you in the process that where you can be coached through.

00:18:30
Yeah.

00:18:31
But hands down, that is at that has been the big trigger point for me as far as, okay, I got

00:18:37
kettlebells at my house.

00:18:38
Yeah.

00:18:38
I got some workout equipment in my house.

00:18:41
I have a Peloton at my house.

00:18:43
I have those, Bowflex, dumbbells, which are, like, absolutely.

00:18:48
Too.

00:18:49
There's rotate those things out to, like, 55.

00:18:51
Yeah.

00:18:51
Take up no space.

00:18:52
Like, the

00:18:53
In between a meeting, dude, I'll rep out, like, 15, 20, just curls.

00:18:57
And then just get my blood freaking flowing.

00:18:59
Yep.

00:18:59
Right?

00:19:01
That it those those easy decisions, like, you can you can perform right in the middle of

00:19:06
things, especially if you're working from home or, and you can incorporate those things.

00:19:11
Yeah.

00:19:11
Huge, huge difference.

00:19:13
Yeah.

00:19:13
And I see it because you were even saying, those little intermittent intensity,

00:19:20
intensities that you do between workouts.

00:19:22
Yeah.

00:19:22
Like, help.

00:19:23
Yeah.

00:19:24
Really, really help in, muscular density.

00:19:26
Yeah.

00:19:27
Yeah.

00:19:27
So, like, if you're doing your typical, like, 3 day a week, you know, that's it's probably

00:19:31
kinda like what I'm doing is I got 3 day a week full body workouts.

00:19:35
Right?

00:19:35
But on the off days, I'm doing some kind of movement of either legs, if it's going for a

00:19:40
walk or a a bike ride, or I'm grabbing some bands and I'm doing some, you know, push

00:19:45
presses or whatever it might be.

00:19:46
I'm stimulating the muscle.

00:19:48
So that muscle is getting signal still.

00:19:50
Right?

00:19:50
So that muscle is like, okay.

00:19:51
Like, I need to keep, like, like, active, circulate blood.

00:19:54
Like, they get the bad inflammatory stuff out, get the good stuff in.

00:19:58
So that muscle's always kind of, like, ready, if you will.

00:20:02
And wanted to get into this topic, bros, like, people who are like, what about cardio?

00:20:07
You have to do cardio.

00:20:08
Right?

00:20:08
Like, but there's such this, like, this thought that cardio has to be, you just, like, going

00:20:13
for a long, like, like, wonderful run or, like, bike ride or, like, walk.

00:20:17
Yeah.

00:20:18
And that, like, it's just this monotonous, like, I'm gonna run until I feel sick and then,

00:20:22
got a good workout.

00:20:23
It's like, did you?

00:20:24
Like, you probably just, like, burnt your body out.

00:20:26
Like, you probably just almost did more damage than at that point.

00:20:30
People don't understand that.

00:20:32
What we just kinda touched on with the with the blood that the the signal of blood having to go

00:20:37
down the legs, back up to the body.

00:20:39
If you do some kind of like lower body, upper body, lower body split, you are creating this

00:20:43
peripheral heart circulation that the body has to pump blood through those arteries.

00:20:47
That is so powerful and then strengthening for your circulatory system that it's it's right

00:20:53
there with cardio.

00:20:54
Right?

00:20:54
And and the the kinda hit stuff that you do, I just hit you to make a button.

00:20:58
Make a button.

00:20:58
You kinda hit stuff.

00:21:00
That's stupid.

00:21:01
That joke that kinda hit exercises, right, that high intensity interval training is is working

00:21:06
your heart.

00:21:06
Right?

00:21:07
So that's muscle building, cardio and embolic stuff that that you're doing.

00:21:11
And the more muscle you have on your body, man, the the more fat, the more thermogenic you are.

00:21:15
So the more at rest your body's burning more calories.

00:21:19
So it's like, build a lot of muscle to burn fat.

00:21:23
Mhmm.

00:21:23
And then it's so much easier to maintain at that point, right?

00:21:26
Obviously getting there takes some time and effort, and and it's it's not easy.

00:21:30
But once you get to that point, Laura, like, I work out 3 days a week, bro, and, like, I Like,

00:21:35
I have just been in this shape for years now.

00:21:38
And it's like, I'm I don't feel like I'm putting in that much crazy effort compared to

00:21:41
what I used to.

00:21:42
It's just, like, a lot easier to maintain.

00:21:44
Yeah.

00:21:45
Do you agree?

00:21:45
Oh, for sure.

00:21:46
It becomes I think it becomes a little bit relative.

00:21:49
I, honestly, I actually, I work out harder than I did.

00:21:51
Yeah.

00:21:52
I was bigger, stronger, but now I I definitely have a leaner mass, to me.

00:21:57
Mhmm.

00:21:58
Which you made that that's something we could dive into in terms of the intensity of how,

00:22:03
like, how much you hold on your skeletal structure.

00:22:05
I probably think I was holding a little bit too much.

00:22:07
Yeah.

00:22:07
And was therefore more inflamed.

00:22:10
Now I don't.

00:22:12
I, you know, I've, like, really lean muscle mass where I still would like to add a little

00:22:16
bit more, but keep just the elongated, muscular structure.

00:22:20
Yeah.

00:22:20
The one big thing though that I would do when I was, personal training in DC, I would actually

00:22:27
take a lot of my clients through this, period of, hey, I'm not, like, we might warm up for,

00:22:34
like, 5 minutes or something very minimal.

00:22:36
Yeah.

00:22:37
Like, on a bike or a treadmill, But what I would do is incorporate because I I didn't want

00:22:43
to lower their heart rate.

00:22:44
I wanted that heart rate to stay consistent through the workout.

00:22:47
Yeah.

00:22:47
Even if it was in a hit environment, but the controllables as we do, like, some pad work,

00:22:53
with just boxing that I would add in.

00:22:56
And so that kept up their heart rate.

00:22:58
And then we immediately then lowered it a little bit by going into a workout that was a

00:23:05
little bit more static in nature.

00:23:07
That, you know, they were lifting weights, doing curls, or whatever.

00:23:10
And then we would come back to that almost immediately Cool.

00:23:13
To escalate the heart rate again.

00:23:15
So that that piece of that cardiovascular activity built in Yeah.

00:23:19
To creating that hit environment, like, back and forth.

00:23:23
You know, a little a little bit like, you know, that CrossFit environment, something that we do

00:23:27
with kettlebells Yeah.

00:23:28
Is that, you know, we'll incorporate a half mile run come back.

00:23:31
Doesn't have to be that.

00:23:32
But those are some really good ways to quick and efficiently build in cardiovascular

00:23:35
activity that isn't crazy.

00:23:42
Like, I'm a really boring walk.

00:23:44
Right?

00:23:44
Yeah.

00:23:45
Or really boring run.

00:23:46
Right.

00:23:47
Even though I do those things now, those things, I wouldn't encourage them right off the

00:23:52
bat because you actually wanna keep if you're overweight, you actually wanna keep that and

00:23:59
turn as much of that into muscle Yeah.

00:24:01
While you have it.

00:24:02
Convert those, that calorie spend.

00:24:03
You know what I mean?

00:24:04
It's like building And I think one of the big things with, like, long term cardio or jogging

00:24:09
or running man is, like, people don't realize that your body becomes more efficient at that.

00:24:14
Right?

00:24:14
So this is a great concept I heard.

00:24:16
I think it was, shoot, man.

00:24:19
Like, like, with the, like, the mind pump guys are big on right?

00:24:22
That guy's Sal.

00:24:23
He, talks about k.

00:24:26
So for example, say you I'm just gonna use basic numbers.

00:24:29
It's probably not even accurate, but I'm just gonna use numbers that are easy to understand.

00:24:33
Say you run 1 mile and you burn a 100 calories.

00:24:36
Right?

00:24:36
The next day, you run that same mile.

00:24:38
Maybe you only burn 98 calories.

00:24:41
Your body's gonna become more efficient at preserving because your body's main goal is to

00:24:45
survive.

00:24:46
Right?

00:24:46
That's what we're built for.

00:24:48
Survival be be as efficient as we can.

00:24:51
So then the next day you run that mile, you only burn 95 calories.

00:24:54
The next day, 90.

00:24:55
Right?

00:24:55
So now you have to run more.

00:24:56
Now you have to run a mile and a half to burn the 100 calories.

00:24:59
Maybe eventually it becomes 2 miles to burn that same calories.

00:25:02
Eventually, you're not gonna be able to sustain that.

00:25:04
You're gonna be running so much trying to burn calories.

00:25:07
It's the wrong approach.

00:25:09
Right?

00:25:09
You should build lean muscle.

00:25:11
That way, when we're sitting here right now, the muscle on our body is thermogenic.

00:25:14
It's a use it's gotta eat Right?

00:25:16
So it's using calories to to feed itself and process.

00:25:19
We are burning calories as we speak right now.

00:25:21
Right?

00:25:22
So that's kind of the the flip of man.

00:25:24
It's like people think to burn calories.

00:25:25
You gotta burn.

00:25:26
You gotta go kill yourself, run, and jog, and doing this this steady state cardio, heart

00:25:32
rate, 60% heart rate zone or whatever they and they've pushed.

00:25:35
I think that's that's not, the best way in my opinion.

00:25:39
Yeah.

00:25:39
And you also had the dream outcome.

00:25:41
Right?

00:25:42
I think very few people.

00:25:45
Yeah.

00:25:45
Again, my thought, and it could be based on the direction of just me, would if you had to pick,

00:25:52
right, do I want a muscular body?

00:25:56
Like, that's dense?

00:25:57
Or do I want something that's, like, frail, skinny, and, like, if I was hanging out at, you

00:26:06
know, I I if I got caught in the dark alley with some some bad guys, no drag guys, like,

00:26:11
what am I gonna do?

00:26:12
Like, you know what I mean?

00:26:13
I wanna it's in your mind goes into protection mode.

00:26:15
Yeah.

00:26:16
Right?

00:26:16
At that well, if I'm let's say I'm with my family, am I gonna I I might be able to run a

00:26:23
120 miles.

00:26:24
Right?

00:26:24
These Ultra is crazy.

00:26:26
I might be able to do that, but at the expense of what if I can't protect?

00:26:30
Like, they can't protect me.

00:26:31
Yeah.

00:26:31
Not that you're gonna find yourself.

00:26:33
You obviously try to try to put yourself in that environment.

00:26:36
But, like, my mind goes back to, like, okay.

00:26:39
Well, dream outcome, if I'm If I'm trying to protect myself and my family on a daily basis,

00:26:45
which I am, right, in all areas, again, scorecard, you know, faith, the principles,

00:26:51
everything across the board.

00:26:52
But specifically in the structure of how I'm holding myself and my body, I wanna make sure I

00:26:56
can protect them.

00:26:57
You know?

00:26:57
Yeah.

00:26:58
You know, things do come up.

00:26:59
You know, shit happens.

00:27:00
Yeah.

00:27:00
And I wanna make sure I'm able to protect them and then hold confidently like my ground.

00:27:06
If I don't, then it creates this level of and may you this is something we can tap tap into

00:27:13
It's like, I don't I almost lose the alpha.

00:27:15
Right?

00:27:16
And I think alpha is a big thing that is created for good There's good alpha and there's

00:27:23
bad alpha.

00:27:23
Right.

00:27:24
Right.

00:27:24
But I think good alpha is creating a physical muscular structure that's like, dude, when I

00:27:31
walk into the room, that that dude, he holds himself accountable.

00:27:35
Yeah.

00:27:36
He's disciplined.

00:27:37
Yeah.

00:27:38
And and it's because of that.

00:27:40
You know, you

00:27:41
The confidence that comes from it.

00:27:42
Yeah.

00:27:43
Got it.

00:27:43
That's really what, you know, that comes out in the in the, really, that feeds into how you

00:27:48
operate on a day to day basis.

00:27:50
Right?

00:27:50
Yeah.

00:27:50
I agree.

00:27:51
Yeah.

00:27:51
And, you know, like, the concept of, like, armor, right, like, like, back in the day,

00:27:55
like, they wore, like, armor when they were fighting and slashing with swords and Right.

00:27:58
Whatever it is to protect you.

00:28:00
Right?

00:28:00
And muscle is in a way somewhat like that.

00:28:03
It's, it's It's like a natural built in kind of protecting.

00:28:07
You gotta I don't know.

00:28:08
We all have stuff in our daylights we have to do.

00:28:10
Right?

00:28:10
Like, and and say you you make your arm offs under your bum something.

00:28:13
Right?

00:28:14
Don't have muscle on your body, you're gonna hit your bone, and it's gonna bruise more

00:28:17
easily in heart.

00:28:18
Right?

00:28:18
So it's like just that, like, kind of interconcept of, like, you are more just more

00:28:24
prepared to take on whatever in life, right, whether it's some kind of, like, crazy scenario

00:28:29
where you have to respond or or even just getting through the day.

00:28:32
Right?

00:28:33
Like, you having more muscle on your body is just, it can only benefit you.

00:28:37
Right?

00:28:38
Yeah.

00:28:38
And again, like, I always just go back to the thermogenic thing, man.

00:28:41
It's, it's gonna it's gonna help your metabolism.

00:28:44
Right?

00:28:44
It boosts your metabolism, having more muscle on your body.

00:28:47
Mhmm.

00:28:47
Helps your body to process, the it it helps to balance your insulin as well.

00:28:52
Right?

00:28:53
When you have more muscle on your body, you know, people, you can reverse diabetes through

00:28:56
resistance training for sure.

00:28:58
You know, I'm not gonna say that's the only thing you have to do.

00:29:00
Obviously, there's dietary stuff as well.

00:29:01
But having more muscle on your body makes you more insulin sensitive that your body's gonna

00:29:05
be better at processing that that sugar that comes in.

00:29:07
So Yeah.

00:29:08
Yeah, man.

00:29:09
I think, I think that's a great kind of like foundation for this season, man.

00:29:14
I think everything we just talked about is, is is really just like, that's the base of where

00:29:19
we wanna go with this.

00:29:20
And then I think, you know, next couple episodes, we're gonna dig a little bit deeper

00:29:22
into some of the other, I I think I'd love to get with you, and get your opinion on, like,

00:29:28
routines, right, like, how to structure it in for someone who is kind of burning the candle

00:29:34
at both ends, right?

00:29:35
Like, they are a high level, like, like, entrepreneur business person that's like, man,

00:29:40
where do I get the time?

00:29:41
How do I get the time?

00:29:41
How do I squeeze in?

00:29:43
Xyz workout.

00:29:44
You know what I mean?

00:29:45
Yeah.

00:29:45
Let's segue.

00:29:46
That kind of stuff.

00:29:47
So, do we have any questions?

00:29:49
Do you know

00:29:50
That'll be for, episode number 2.

00:29:52
We'll be, implementing routines and get, more tactical.

00:29:55
That's right.

00:29:56
In our approach and what that looks like on a day to day basis.

00:29:58
So Yeah.

00:29:59
Yeah.

00:29:59
That's all about living living life full field.

00:30:02
What do we got, Blake?

00:30:03
Do we got a question from the audience?

00:30:06
Is how do I know what the optimal amount of muscle to body fat to, body percentage is how

00:30:15
do I how do I know?

00:30:18
That's a good question, man.

00:30:19
I think, I think a lot of it's, like, intuitive.

00:30:22
Right?

00:30:22
Like, you can really, like, feel, and take anyone who's overweight or yeah.

00:30:28
I guess that's a good question.

00:30:29
It's like, what are we talking about the overweight individual?

00:30:32
Are we talking about the individual?

00:30:34
Like, me, I look at that now.

00:30:36
Right?

00:30:37
I'm a little bit further in, but let's talk about it from the lens of somebody's overweight

00:30:43
You know?

00:30:43
Yeah.

00:30:44
And then then I think it comes back down to the dream outcome.

00:30:47
Right?

00:30:47
Right.

00:30:47
Because then you're you're creating the building blocks.

00:30:49
But Yeah.

00:30:50
I honestly, I I think for most people, and this is probably 99% of people, you can't have too

00:30:56
much, like, you're not gonna build too much muscle.

00:30:58
Right?

00:30:58
I don't think there's, like, This is my opinion, right, take it for what it's worth,

00:31:02
but I just don't Organic muscle.

00:31:04
Yeah.

00:31:04
So that's where I was going at.

00:31:05
I don't think you're gonna be pharmaceutical is different.

00:31:07
Yeah.

00:31:08
I don't think you're gonna ever naturally through, like, you know, like I said, 99% of

00:31:12
people who are living their daily life, not not body builders who are on steroids or an

00:31:16
embolics, right, because, yes, you can get to a point where, like, your body doesn't function

00:31:19
anymore because there's so much muscle tissue that you're like this, like, Boulder dude.

00:31:24
Like, obviously, they look fantastic as well, but I don't think the average person's gonna

00:31:27
ever have too much muscle or get to a point where that's gonna be detrimental to them.

00:31:31
You know, those those guys who are like the freak athletes and they get to, like, 2% body

00:31:36
fat.

00:31:36
Yeah.

00:31:36
That's probably not as healthy either.

00:31:38
Right?

00:31:38
Your your body fat does serve a purpose.

00:31:40
What is that body fat percentage that is like optimal?

00:31:44
I mean, right now, I'm sitting at 5 a half percent, to be honest with you, for me.

00:31:48
I think that's a little low, and I'm trying to bump that up by a couple points.

00:31:51
It depends on what

00:31:51
would that be?

00:31:52
It depends on your goals.

00:31:53
Right.

00:31:53
Yeah.

00:31:53
I think athletes should have a little bit more, actually, because, like, you're gonna need

00:31:57
calorie stores, right, for for performance and stuff like that.

00:32:00
Mhmm.

00:32:01
Body builders or, like, people who are performing in shows and have to look absolutely

00:32:05
like like stretched, like, ripped should be as low as they can get, but that's not longevity.

00:32:11
Right?

00:32:11
That's not the app.

00:32:12
That's not us.

00:32:13
So I mean, it's it's really depending on your goals.

00:32:15
I think if you could be, like, for a for a guy, like, 8 to 10, It's probably pretty good, even

00:32:21
maybe, like, 7 year.

00:32:21
Yeah.

00:32:22
That's what I've heard.

00:32:22
But you start to get lower than that, and it's harder to, like, you know, it's harder to

00:32:26
balance, and and it it takes a lot out of you as well.

00:32:29
Yeah.

00:32:30
No.

00:32:30
That's the piece of thermogenesis coming into play too.

00:32:33
That's right.

00:32:34
Because it plays off of your fats and, obviously, your muscular density.

00:32:37
So that's a that's a good question in terms of what that looks like.

00:32:41
I think it really comes down to, you know, really ideally dream outcome

00:32:45
in

00:32:45
terms of where you're headed, though.

00:32:47
Especially for somebody that maybe is a little bit overweight that could shed a few pounds.

00:32:51
But still wants to, like, the dream outcome would have me more of a muscular denser frame.

00:32:57
I, you know, you're always targeting probably athletes 8 to 10%.

00:33:02
But, I mean, at the end of the day, if you're at 40%, it's like, alright, what are the

00:33:05
building blocks we're gonna be talking about to really step into that to create that, type of

00:33:10
velocity long term.

00:33:11
And then you stick with it.

00:33:11
Of course, when things become easier, you can you could but, hey, I do this every day.

00:33:19
Get back to the fundamentals, man.

00:33:21
Like, you know, it's the fundamentals.

00:33:23
They create the fundamentals first.

00:33:25
That's right.

00:33:25
And then you and then you build off of that, but you have an envisioning of what the dream

00:33:29
outcome is.

00:33:30
And I'm a I'm a true believer in creating that vision of, like, maybe identifying a person.

00:33:35
You're like, that's who I wanna be.

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Now I need to build the building blocks.

00:33:39
To, like, look like that.

00:33:40
And your body goes in the direction of your greatest thought.

00:33:44
So But, yeah, but pick somebody who's has a similar body type to you.

00:33:46
Right?

00:33:47
Like, you and I don't have a similar body type.

00:33:48
So I'll never look the way you look.

00:33:50
You'll never probably never look the way I look because I have more of, like, that mezzo morph.

00:33:53
You're probably more like, like, ectomezo morph which we can talk about these everybody types

00:33:58
too if we would need to, but Yes.

00:34:01
You know, I I naturally am more of like a square frame.

00:34:03
So, like, It was it helped as an athlete because I could build muscle pretty quickly,

00:34:07
and I could, you know, just by eating.

00:34:09
Like, I would just build muscle pretty fast, but I tend to then, like, hold that as well.

00:34:12
A little bit more.

00:34:13
And so, like, if I get more carbohydrate dense, I'll probably start building a little bit more,

00:34:17
adding a little bit more fat to my frame too.

00:34:19
So, you know, knowing your body type, not looking at someone who's this, like, v shaped,

00:34:24
like, like shredded guy on the front of a magazine when you don't have that body type is

00:34:28
gonna create, like, almost like doubt that like you can ever get there, you know.

00:34:32
It almost like leads to like negative self image sometimes.

00:34:34
So I think being realistic like with like like what you can achieve And then getting the best

00:34:39
body you can for that.

00:34:40
Like everyone has, like, an ideal, like, like, body, body fat or, I mean, body, like, image.

00:34:47
You know what I mean?

00:34:48
Play it with that chair, bro.

00:34:51
Good.

00:34:51
So that that's our talking.

00:34:52
My hands just

00:34:55
but, yeah, no.

00:34:56
Fair enough.

00:34:57
Fair enough.

00:34:57
I think I think it really comes down to the point of, like, you you have to be kind of open

00:35:04
to the dream outcome, to, like, what that is.

00:35:07
But honestly, the mind is powerful tool.

00:35:10
And when you, like, focus so directly on something, you can become whatever that is.

00:35:16
Yeah.

00:35:16
And that's in all areas.

00:35:18
So it's like one of those things where you just work as hard as you can to get there.

00:35:22
And that's what that's ultimately just building it out, but that health component of creating

00:35:27
that physical structure, that physical specimen, that I truly believe that we're

00:35:32
called into of really being, an alpha male is a critically important.

00:35:37
Yeah.

00:35:38
Now we can take that beyond, limits, a little bit, but Becoming the greatest version of

00:35:46
yourself physically is a very important thing.

00:35:49
And it's very important to set the baseline while we're talking about blood getting blood

00:35:54
work done.

00:35:55
Yep.

00:35:55
Having understanding of what your body is producing on a daily basis, set that baseline,

00:36:00
and start building those incremental things.

00:36:03
Have 36 hours.

00:36:04
Right?

00:36:04
Having a foundation for where you're starting at.

00:36:06
So I think, like, all of that to be said, the short answer to that that person's question

00:36:11
Mhmm.

00:36:11
Is you you can't have too much muscle on your body.

00:36:13
I really don't think so.

00:36:14
I know.

00:36:15
More muscle.

00:36:15
Right?

00:36:16
To add in and close the one out.

00:36:19
I went to a conference this past weekend.

00:36:20
Alan Algan was saying you literally can hold 20 untrained if you're coming into an environment

00:36:27
completely untrained, you can hold at max £50 organically of muscular muscular density on

00:36:35
your structure, but and that's over the course of a lifetime.

00:36:38
Right?

00:36:39
So then it determines how much physical intake you're having to max that out.

00:36:46
But really, it's like £25.

00:36:48
And if you think about it, pick up a 25 or the, like, £45 weight.

00:36:53
Yeah.

00:36:53
That's a lot of freaking weight.

00:36:54
It is.

00:36:55
Right?

00:36:55
You know what I mean?

00:36:56
Yeah.

00:36:56
So hold on your your so what your current Untrained body is holding, you can hold in

00:37:01
addition up to that.

00:37:03
Cool.

00:37:03
In terms of muscular density.

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So we

00:37:05
have all that fuel.

00:37:06
Great stuff.

00:37:07
Fuel, baby.

00:37:07
Live full fuel.

00:37:08
Live full field.

00:37:12
Oh, I bet holding that in.