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Welcome to the Full Fueled podcast.
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I'm doctor Alfred Alessi.
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Doctor Alfred Alessi.
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Doctor Alfred Alessi.
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They know by now.
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that is in equilibrium.
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We're doing a little something a little different today.
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We tried it out last week.
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Brian, you sound like a you sound like a an announcer on a sports game.
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That was really good.
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That's actually what, the intention was there.
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But today, we're going to go on a couple of different directions, but we're going to talk
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about some personalized medicine and what that means.
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And then we're gonna tackle a little bit in terms of longevity, maybe some training, as you
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get into maybe your late twenties, thirties, and even forties and beyond.
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And what training looks like associated to your fun hobbies that you choose to do.
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So that's something we'll probably tackle a little bit later on down.
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We're gonna keep it short.
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We're gonna dive right in.
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Tell us a little bit about personalized medicine there, doctor Alessi.
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Yep.
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Hey, hey, guys.
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Before we get into it, just wanted to come in here.
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We got the producer on.
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We got the producer good night.
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Live.
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Well, good, Kyle.
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Good night.
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Hey, guys.
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Thanks a lot.
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Yeah.
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Just trying to see how this producer mode works in Riverside here.
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Our first guest on a live podcast, our producer, Kyle Gidnon.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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Just, sitting here in my car, wanted to come out here.
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My my wife's actually in getting a colonoscopy.
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What wonders it is to be 50 years old, guys?
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TMI, bro.
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This is live.
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We're we're at Facebook right now.
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Well, you know, I'm in the medical field too, and we've gotta be conscious on our That's
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absolutely true.
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And do the right things to be preventative.
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And, actually, it's a good segment about what you guys are gonna be talking about today.
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Earlier than 50.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Actually, studies, I I've read a few articles, one by Peter Atsia, whom I love.
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But, you know, for men specifically, colon health is just becoming such a trending topic
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and he actually recommends 35, to start kind of checking things, not maybe necessarily getting
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a colonoscopy, but a colonoscopy if, if it needs to be done, but checking in on the colon,
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by the age of 30 5.
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Yep.
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A lot earlier.
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Yeah.
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It's like with everything.
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That's what we were just about to talk about was personalized medicine and how important it
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is to just be ahead of things, like getting a lot of work done every 6 months, if not, you
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know, more often than that, and kind of understanding where your metrics are because
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stuff happens now.
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The stuff that we do now in our thirties and forties is what settles in as disease later on
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in life.
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Right?
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And, unfortunately, nobody else talks about that in the medical community.
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It's just a lot of like, oh, well, here you are.
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You're old.
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This is what happens.
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Take this medicine.
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So yeah.
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It's it's backwards, but
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And that's why I like the holistic approach to medicine.
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You know, chiropractors in my time, and I've been to plenty of them, they always have that
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holistic approach, and that's a that's a great way to to look into your health is that
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holistic way to know the whole body and the whole mind and everything.
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So appreciate what you guys are doing and, letting you get back to your show here, and
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I'll talk to you guys later.
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Thanks, brother.
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Appreciate you.
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We forgive you for your hat.
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Oh, come on now.
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Baby.
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You
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know what?
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Go blue.
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Go blue.
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Go bucks always.
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Thanks for coming out, Kyle.
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So they, tell us a little about, personalized medicine.
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It's becoming a trending topic for sure.
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People are just becoming we, you know, talked about, biohacking and various things that you
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can use as terms of, smart drugs, but personalized medicine is a lot more in-depth,
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of understanding your body.
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So tell us dive in a little bit, bro.
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Yeah.
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I mean, my take on it is, like, you need to know what's going on in your body.
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Right?
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I think for so long, everyone has just, like, outsourced,
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our health to a doctor.
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And that's just the
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way it's been.
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I mean, that's the way I was raised.
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It was like, oh, you have a problem.
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Let's go ask the doctor or go see a doctor.
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And then they just try to give you a solution, but they never educate you on anything.
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So I've, you know, I've really built that into the way that I educate my patients.
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They come in with an issue, whether it's pain, whether it's gut irritation, whatever it is.
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I wanna get to the bottom of that, and then I wanna educate them on why that's happening
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based on how they've been living their life.
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And then how can we now change that to get rid of this problem?
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Right?
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Versus just here, take this pill, you know, you have x, y, z diagnosis.
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We'll see in 6 months.
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It people are just in the dark.
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And so it comes down to starting with understanding where you are and taking control
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really taking responsibility of your health, being your doctor.
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So you have to be your own doctor before someone else can be your doctor, if that makes
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sense.
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And so that that comes down to I mean, routine lab work.
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We've talked about knowing all those biomarkers, things that we look for in
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hormones, you know, metabolism, digestion, electrolyzed minerals.
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You can get super detailed with with blood work nowadays, which is awesome.
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And you can do it at home.
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A lot of my patients come in and I just give them a kit.
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They take it home.
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They run the finger prick test, and then they send it out.
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And it's functional medicine blood work.
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So, you know, when it comes to personalized, it that's the whole thing.
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It's like, it's personal to you.
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What is your lifestyle with right?
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Let's take you for example.
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Busy entrepreneur, 3 kids who don't like the birthday cake that I bought them.
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Felt personally hacked by that, by the way.
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But Well, I have cake that.
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Good.
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It was a healthy birthday cake.
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3 kids, busy lifestyle.
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Right?
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You got all this stuff going on.
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Like, managing stress is gonna be very important factor for you and how that, affects
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your life.
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Right?
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So it's personal to to you.
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Yeah.
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And, another one, you know, I got a good buddy, came into the clinic, highly inflamed, and he
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needed, obviously, some direct attention to some personalized health and functional
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medicine.
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And what was prescribed to him was drugs to basically get him through the day.
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Right?
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So that he can wake up tomorrow and take that same drug.
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Now the longevity in that, and they told him very from the get go is like, yeah, likely, you
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know, this drug does cause to cause dementia.
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It's like, dude, is, is that, is that where I wanna go?
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Like, you know, I know what I'm gonna be 5 years old.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Of 45.
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Like, is that where I went ahead?
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And so you, obviously what, Hey, go get some blood work done.
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We're going to come back.
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We're going to get a leaky leaky gut panel done.
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See if you have, you know, where the inflammation is being derived from, and then
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come up with a game plan associated that right.
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To drive down to that root cause.
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I think that's huge.
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Another thing that I do want to is one of the big things that, you know, I've been educated
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on and dug into a little bit more, but that most people don't know is, you know, a lot of
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people want to take supplementation and then it's also becomes like the timing of that
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supplementation.
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So I found out I am a slow metabolizer and by your body's rate at which it can break down
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things and actually use it.
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Mine is a little bit slower.
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And so by metabolizing slower, right.
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I supplement with melatonin.
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If I choose to take melatonin at 8 o'clock at night, it is not going to affect me until way
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later.
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And so like the effects are not at nearly as good.
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So I know that I actually probably need to take that like around 4 or 5 in order to get the
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effects of it going into sleep, maybe around 9:45, 10 o'clock at night.
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And so many people miss out on that.
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I was actually, I was talking to Cole yesterday on that.
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I was like, blood work is a good thing to know.
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And then, like, how you're breaking things down.
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Are you a fast metabolizer or you're a slow metabolizer?
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Yeah.
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And, you know, there's the basic blood work, obviously, knowing, you know, the the the
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simple biomarkers that we talk about, and then you can get a lot more detailed.
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They have some really cool stuff out there, man.
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You can check your your DNA, your your, what kind of SMPs you have on your DNA that may
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cause you to to methylate differently so that you're gonna bind and absorb different
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vitamins, you know, either less effectively or more effectively.
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That's something I work a lot with with patients.
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It's, you know, kind of where I built a lot of the functional medicine practice on is is
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checking for stuff like that.
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And, you know, when it comes to I don't wanna say a majority of things, but a lot of it can
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be traced back to our our lifestyle.
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Right?
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Like we're just constantly bombarded by toxic stuff in the environment, in our lives that we
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need to just hit the reset button every now and then.
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So most of my protocols begin with some kind of a detox phase, which I think that's really
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important.
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Yeah.
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That I I personally agree.
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I think that, you know, I'm not a big one anymore.
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You know, I, this is always the thing I come back to is I guinea pig myself a lot.
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So I, I actually appreciate the people that can ultimately like change their mind when
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associated to different health regimens.
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And one of the things for me last year was like significant fasting.
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And I had, you know, a regimen where I did a typically about 14 to 16 hours of time
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restricted eating.
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And then I had one fast, which like that fast, you know, do anything over 18 hours, I think is
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considered a fast.
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Am I
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correct on that?
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Depends on who you ask, but realistically.
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Yeah.
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So I did a 24 hour one day a week, but you know what?
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I saw that, yeah, there was definitely some reduced inflammation and I was at a caloric
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deficit, but man did I was, was I losing muscle at a very rapid pace?
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And so what I do now, which is a little bit different than you, and this is what I think is
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like, cool, because you can approach it a little bit differently, but like, what I'll do
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is once a quarter, I'll actually go through that detox.
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And so I'll do a 7 day detox once a quarter instead of, doing any level of really time
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restricted eating.
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The only time restricted eating I do is I stop eating after dinner and then I pick up
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essentially the following morning around 8 am.
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So I get about roughly around, you know, 12 hours in or so maybe a little bit more.
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But majority of that is obviously in a sleeping state, but, I have changed up my mentality.
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And the reason why I changed up my new mentality is because obviously I lift a lot
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heavier weights than I did last year.
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And so I want to make sure I'm going in there, as strong as I possibly can be.
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And then I allocate that time of, okay, I'm going into a restriction for a week.
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And that, it, that seems to ebb and flow a little bit better because my, I think I'm
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holding at a weight where my body is more justified for my frame.
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When I'm over £200, I think I feel a little bit better when I'm at that buck 70 buck 80 real
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lean.
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I can run a lot.
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I just naturally, I don't maybe it's a confidence thing too.
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I feel a little bit more confident when I'm a little bit stronger than when I am real, real
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light.
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So that's just one thing that's worked for me, but you, I think you you time restrict eat
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actually a little lot more than I do.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And I think what you might have done when you were doing that was you probably weren't
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getting
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adequate protein.
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Right?
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I mean, you're fasting a lot.
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So I
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think you were on the adequate protein.
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Right.
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I mean, you're fasting a lot.
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So I think you were under protein.
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So like you can definitely fast and
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still hit
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the protein requirements that you need for building muscle and not lose muscle.
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That's a 100% been shown.
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So I agree with that.
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The other thing is, like, people think you have to have the protein shake 30 minutes after your
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workout or else you miss this window of optimal protein.
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It's like that's been proven to be wrong as well.
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You know, that's not one of the bad.
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I think that was, dude, that was announcing the protein company.
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It came out of the biggest loop right away.
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It was like a I think it was a marketing thing from, you know, freaking muscle milk or
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something.
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Like, they were like, if you get your protein right away, so then everyone's running for a
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muscle milk as soon as they they finish their workout.
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You know?
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I do I do think it's a good on that though, I do think it's a good habit structure.
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Good habit stack.
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Yeah.
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To yeah.
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But, yeah, I mean, if you if you eat in a in a time restricted window where you're eating 8
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hours out of the day and then the other, what, 16 are not eating, then you can get all your
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protein requirements, your micronutrients, all of that in that time.
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You're not gonna lose the gains that you're getting.
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If anything, it's actually gonna optimize it because you're gonna give your gut a break
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during that that detox or that, fasting window.
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I'm sorry.
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And that's what we're talking about, you know.
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It's like, there's the autophagy benefits to fasting as well.
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But the biggest thing is just letting your gut take a break from eating all day long.
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So for me, that's the benefit I feel is, like, I feel, like, my digestion's better.
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Like, my I'm more regular and I don't get, like, bloating or I don't get any digestive
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issues ever, dude.
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Like, I'm I mean, unless I, like, went somewhere and ate a a thing at my mom's house
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and she paid ribs or something, and it was heavy as, you know, then I'm gonna feel a
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little heavier.
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But other than that, it's like, I'm giving my gut time to work through what I just ate, you
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know, versus like, I use the analogy with my patients when we're talking about gut health is
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like, like a post office.
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They're trying to process what's in there, and they're getting new mail at the same time.
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And it's like, oh shit, we got this new stuff.
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How do I get rid of the stuff that I got here?
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But there's new stuff coming in.
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What takes precedent?
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Right?
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And that's kind of how our body works.
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There's constantly being, you know, fed things.
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It's gonna have to work on all of it.
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So then you're gonna have, like, almost impaired, absorption of that food you had
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because your body's just trying to get it through now.
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Right?
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There's limited space.
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So although, you know, the the small and large intestine are very long.
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So there's a lot of room in there.
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But you start filling that thing up, you're gonna start feeling pretty backed up as well.
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So that's that's what I think is, you know, and that's been shown too.
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Like, if you wanna get nerdy about, like, oh, the studies, what do the studies show?
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I don't really care too much, but, you know, I think everyone has to do what kind of feels
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right for them.
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That's the whole concept of, like, intuitive eating, which we've talked about before.
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You know, kind of understanding like, oh, I feel a little hungry.
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Like, maybe I should eat some food.
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Or like, man, I don't feel hungry, but it's lunchtime.
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People think like, just because it's lunchtime, I have to eat, but I'm not actually hungry.
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So then they force themselves to eat.
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That's, you know, that's where it can kind
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of get a little, you know, listen to your body.
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And if if taking a break from eating is a good idea, then do it.
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Yeah.
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I think that it's not, I think.
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I know, you know, for me specifically, but then I know this is, like, you know, the guys we
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coach at the same issues.
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Right.
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A lot, a lot of what catches up to people is what they eat after dinner.
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So right after dinner.
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And so like the choices after dinner are more neurological and habit structure of like, this
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is a habit.
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I want to go after a carb or a sweet or say, you know, something.
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And so I always tend to say like, Hey, if you need to pacify yourself with something, like,
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if you just need something in your gut to pacify it, the best thing you can do is get a
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protein shake in you.
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Like if it's gonna be a couple hours before bed and you're like, man, like I really want
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something sweet.
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Just if you can switch that up and change that up with a, like a protein shake so that you can
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satiate your appetite for a period of time before you go to bed.
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I it's just like a it's a choice.
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Right?
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It turns into those yogurts too.
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Like, some of those, like like, nicer quality, you know, Greek yogurt, Got, like, 15 grams of
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protein.
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Maybe it's got a little fruit in it, so you get a a beta carb.
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You get a little bit of hit.
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That's actually what I was going for.
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So, like, that's where I was going with that comment as actually is you wanna get, like,
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more mush instead of whole foods because then like during sleep, it's obviously going to be
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broken down a lot to be easier than something that's a whole food source.
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That's going to take a period of time.
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It's going to be going through the digestion cycle.
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So I was telling them like, find mush, like something that is like, that is easier broken
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down, like after dinner, because you're going to be in a very static state.
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Well, obviously when you're sleeping, of course, if you can go to bed, like relatively
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hungry, that's the best scenario, where maybe you aren't, like, completely uncomfortable.
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You're obviously gonna get more optimized sleep.
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But, like, usually for me, like, I do, I wanna go I wanna go some level of satiation to bed
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for some reason.
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And that's like, that's again, a neurological thing that, like, I just I Well, it's it's hard
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to go to sleep till my summer.
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Right?
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Like, it it's not comfortable.
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Yeah.
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I feel the same way.
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I'll do, you know, like, I have a pretty good, like, say I'm under protein by the end of the
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day, and I'm like, damn, I need to get some in, but it's late.
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There's nights, dude.
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I don't come home until like 8:30, 9 o'clock.
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And I'm like, shit.
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I didn't, I haven't eaten since like 5.
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I'm gonna go to bed now.
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And, you know, I'll, I'll make like a protein shake with like a tablespoon of peanut butter,
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which has some good fats, which actually kind of helps then gets you into sleep.
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And then, you know, just some, like, raw 1% milk and and a protein, supplement.
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Now I just pretty much put, like, sometimes I'll throw some raw eggs in there too.
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So you just get, like, 50 grams of protein before bed.
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It's all mush stuff like you said.
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It's gonna be broken down pretty quickly, and I'll do that.
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You know, there's that thing that bodybuilders do where they, like, wake up in the middle of
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the night and will eat, like, a protein shake or something to, like, make sure they're
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keeping that anabolism on.
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And that's, like, been proven that, like, that's not as important.
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You waking up to, like, wreck your sleep is, like, affecting you more than you not getting a
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protein shake.
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You know what I mean?
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But, like, guys used I used to do that, like, in college.
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I was like, oh, I gotta get these gains.
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I'd wake up in the middle of
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the night and, like, drink some casein protein that's, like, slow digesting.
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It's so stupid.
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And that's
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a good segue for this episode is brought to
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Yeah, man.
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And that's the whole thing with the personalized medicine we're talking about, man,
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is, you know, as a doctor, I recommend that people knowing kind of where they are.
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Right?
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Whatever obviously, if you have symptoms or if you have any kind of issue, you have to figure
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that out.
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But if you don't, if you're living a healthy life for the most part, you still should get
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routine blood work done.
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Because there's there's underlying things that you can, you know, tweak and get better over
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time that then will prevent.
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Right?
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If we're talking about prevention is, you know, more important than trying to fix something
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down the line.
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So, you know, it that that's what I always preach.
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It's, like, it's easier to fix or get ahead of it now, right, than to wait till it becomes a
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full blown leak later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And part of, you know, something that we preach on, you know, part of personalized medicine is
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honestly like building out the roadmap of what that looks like.
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And medicine is not just oral things that you put into your mouth or injectable things that
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you put into your body.
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Medicine is across the board.
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What we speak on all the time is that fuel you put into your body, but then also what you're
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doing as far as a movement pattern on a daily basis, you know, get that insulin resistance
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and really create that environment.
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That's part of medicine too.
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And that's part of the personalized medicine that we're referring to here.
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Yeah.
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Like prime example is that, say like an older woman comes in and she's osteoporotic studies
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show that the medications that they give to osteoporotic women for, you know,
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remineralizing bone and all that stuff are least are less effective than if that woman
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were to just strength train 2 days a week.
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2 days a week, just strength training.
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Load bearing exercise that's gonna put stress on the muscle, on the tendon, and on the bone
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is gonna help your body to then it sends a signal to the brain.
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It's wolf's law that says bone will grow based on the demand put on it.
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Right?
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So, yeah, you and I, we're fit young dudes.
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If we just laid around all day, we're gonna have, you know, weakened bone, weakened
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immunity, all that because we're not putting a stress on it, telling it to grow.
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And that's how the body works.
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So stress is I think stress is something that people put a negative light on, but hormetic
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stress, which is positive, which goes back to that fasting conversation, it's good for your
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body.
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Right?
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It sends a signal that, like, hey, this is a little uncomfortable.
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How do
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I now adapt and grow and become more resilient?
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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No.
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I think that's that's huge.
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Give us as we take away this episode, give us your top 3 personalized medicine.
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I guess we could call them hacks or personalized medicine approaches, in terms of
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like the importance of stages, to living a productive life.
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Yeah.
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I mean, step 1 is, you know, you have to do some kind of diagnostic evaluation.
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Right?
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I think step 1, even before that actually would be, you know, like, really, like, getting in
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tune with yourself.
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Okay?
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Like, what did like like, you said, a road map.
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What does my lifestyle look like?
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Do I exercise at all?
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Do I what is my diet?
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Right?
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Getting those those lifestyle factors in check, then, you know, step 2 is always some kind of
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I'm gonna recommend some kind of functional medicine blood work, whether that's at home
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blood work, whether that's going to your primary doctor.
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It's better than nothing.
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Right?
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But they don't tend to look for as comprehensive of, detailed stuff as we do.
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So finding a practitioner that, you know, is is in line with kind of what you're looking for
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and can guide you on that.
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But somebody who's gonna educate you along the way because I educate all my patients.
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So I'm like, hey.
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I'm gonna run this blood work and show you what it means, but I want you to understand what
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we're looking at.
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That way, we can run this again in the future, and you can tell me what we're looking at.
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Right?
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It's like, now you're your doctor and you can even do it on your own.
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And so really, like, giving people the power.
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Right?
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So, like, you get these at home lab tests, you can do it on your own, you can find out, you
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can understand your levels, and now how do I do interventions in my life to make this better or
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to optimize it.
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Right?
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And then I think the 3rd would be I mean, for personalized medicine is like is like then
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fitting all that into what you see for your future.
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Right?
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Like, do you wanna have kids?
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So like, okay, we gotta focus on things that are gonna, you know, optimize my fertility.
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Right?
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If you're a woman, do you not?
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Right?
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So I I think that's probably the biggest thing, though, is is know is starting with knowing the
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baseline levels.
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That's good.
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