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(0:00) Introduction and Trend of Doctors Leaving Clinical Settings (1:09) Gut Health's Impact on Overall Well-being with Dasha Agoulnik (2:05) Dasha Agoulnik's Background in Nutrition and Gut Health (7:01) The Role of Dietitians and the Broken Medical System (10:07) CorePerform's Unique Approach to Nutrition and Health (14:25) CorePerform's Protein Supplement and Coaching (16:47) Challenges and Complexity in Defining a Healthy Gut and Microbiome (21:16) Gluten Intolerance, Glyphosate, and Longevity (23:03) Bodybuilding and Redefining Fitness and Health (26:53) Entrepreneurship and Balancing Personal Health (29:37) The Importance of Community and Accountability in Health (30:39) Sponsor: Authentic Nutrition (32:00) Building a Supportive Community and Optimizers Program (37:57) Personal Achievements and Setting Future Goals (41:08) Expanding Online Presence and Social Media Strategies (43:01) Living a Fully Fueled Life – Final Thoughts (44:01) Where to Find Dasha Agoulnik and CorePerform Promotions (45:21) Closing Remarks and Invitation to Engage with the Podcast (46:23) Preview of the Next Episode and Final Sign-off00:00:00
I recently saw a statistic that said, like, twenty six percent of doctors are going to
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leave the clinical setting in the next, like, five years.
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And don't quote me on that, but it was something ridiculous where it was like, people
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are leaving.
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Even my friend lives in, Boston and is a dietitian up there in Boston Children's, and
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she was saying, like, the turnover there at in the hospitals, like, no one wants to stay in
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hospitals anymore.
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No one wants to work there.
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Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
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Welcome to Health Decoded, your number one source for real health information with your
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hosts, doctor Alessi and Matt Tack.
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Welcome back to another episode of Health Decoded.
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I am your host, doctor Alfred Alessi, and I've got some exciting news.
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Today, we are rereleasing one of our more popular episodes from the Full Fueled podcast
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with none other than our friend, Dasha Agulnik.
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Dasha is an expert in gut health, metabolism, and functional nutrition.
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And in this episode, we dove deep into how your gut impacts fat loss, hormone balance, and
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overall health and performance.
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So if you've ever struggled with bloating, stubborn weight, or mystery symptoms that your
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doctor brushes off, this episode is a must listen.
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Trust me.
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There's a reason this was one of our fan favorites.
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So whether you missed it the first time or you just need a refresher, let's get to the
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episode.
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Back at it, man.
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Hey.
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Back?
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Good day, man.
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Exciting stuff here.
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Got a got a We got
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a special guest with us today.
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I'm super excited.
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I'm actually really excited.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's been a long time coming.
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So ladies and gentlemen, today, we have the privilege of welcoming you a true powerhouse in
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the fields of nutrition, entrepreneurship, and education.
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So we're gonna we're gonna fill you in on all three of those.
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Our guest, Dasha Angulich, is a trailblazer whose remarkable achievements have left an
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indebble mark on the world of nutrition and gut health, which we're gonna be focusing on both
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of those, and we're gonna be focusing on, obviously, the entrepreneurship piece because
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she is amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Tell a little bit about her.
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Dasha is a registered dietitian, five time published nutrition researcher, two time award
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winning bikini athlete.
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That's awesome.
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She graduated from the top nutrition graduate program in the country, Tufts University, a
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Friedman School.
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Her research and coaching focuses on optimizing metabolic and digestive health through
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nutrition and exercise.
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Core core perform has helped over 500 people and growing.
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Right?
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You're still you're still building this, and you get results in just three months with a
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hundred percent success rate.
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That's fantastic.
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I love that those stats right there.
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She recently won Friedman's one hundred thousand pitch competition for her patent
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pending protein, which I wanna hear a lot more about, and was welcomed into The US Food And
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Innovation Council with leaders in the industry like Kellogg, Campbell, and Nestle.
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That's freaking huge.
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That's awesome.
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Dasha, how are you?
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Welcome to the show.
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Good.
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Thank you guys for having me.
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How are you guys doing?
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We're doing awesome.
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We are blessed today.
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We're blessed to be on Friday.
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It's a chilly day here in Tampa, Florida.
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How's the how's the weather out there?
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It's 46, but
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Oh, dang.
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This is weird.
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We we wake up at with, like, 40 degrees, and by by afternoon, the sun heats us up to, to, like,
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72.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's that's Florida.
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That's like Tampa right now.
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We call that, like, 75, 50 five, I feel like.
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So I wanna dig in.
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We wanna get nerdy today.
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But then we also wanna get like, I wanna I wanna hear the entrepreneurship side as well.
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But, you know, our focus is living full fueled, so we wanna make sure we focus on the pillars.
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And that is the main thing is gut health.
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Gut health is so important, and, we know you're an expert in that area.
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So we wanna focus on that.
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But, we also my first question is, can you share a bit about your journey in the field of
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nutrition and specifically gut health, from your academic side at maybe Tufts and and how,
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like, how the thing evolved, the being came about, then also to the founding of
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CorePerform.
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So if you could just give us a little background there.
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Sure thing.
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So, my background is in nutrition research.
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So I got my master's in nutritional epidemiology from Tufts Nutrition, which is a
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really fancy way of saying, how diet affects disease.
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And so my thesis at Tufts was looking at the paleo diet.
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How was it created?
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Who created this concept?
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Is it actually valid based off of the research that we have around it, which it's not?
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Like, we didn't as human populations, we didn't really eat like they say we did.
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The research says that we ate, like, a 10 grams of fiber a day, and and that's not realistic,
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which I can go into in a later on.
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But, my research really focused on the paleo diet.
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And at that time, I was getting diagnosed with celiac disease.
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So I was going through my own gut issues at that time, dealing with battling with doctors.
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I remember one time I was sitting in Boston traffic with if if any of you are from Boston,
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you know that this is, like, a two hour, you're stuck in head to head car.
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I remember having such a spasm and, like, stabbing pain in my stomach.
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I almost like, I was stuck because I was like, do I call an ambulance?
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Because it's gonna take them just as long to get to me right now in the middle of traffic,
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Or do I try and make it the at another thirty minutes to the next exit?
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Like, I was in so much pain during that time, and that really fueled a lot of my interest in
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gut health and understanding why the system is so broken in terms of the medical system.
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I was wanting to be a doctor, and then, you know, I was like, you know what?
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I wanna be a dietitian because I can change people's lifestyle and diet in order to improve
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their health.
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I don't have to have them get on a medication.
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I can actually change their life.
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And that is the most rewarding part of what I do is I get to transform the actual human
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being.
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After people work with me, I get to see the brightness that changes in their in their life.
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I get to hear about how their coworkers are commenting about how much nicer they are and
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happier they look, and what's the magic trick that's now going on.
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So all of that research got me really interested in, in gut health.
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And I remember when I was choosing my thesis at the time, I was I I actually wanted at the time
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to do the low FODMAP diet.
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I was like, you know, this is gonna be the next big thing.
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And my professors were like, no.
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There's not enough research on it.
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You shouldn't choose the low FODMAP diet.
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No one knows about it.
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I've never heard about it.
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And I was like, no.
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I wanna do it.
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And they were like, you don't you can't do that one.
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And funny enough, like, ten years later, everyone knows what the low FODMAP diet is, and
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I was like, I should.
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It's always been a huge passion of mine, and I then became a dietitian and opened my own
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practice right after graduation.
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I I love that you you went that route, open your own practice, and you went entrepreneurial
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stuff.
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Because, you know, a lot of dietitians get stuck in that medical system too.
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Right?
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Like, they just go work with a hospital system, and then it's just I mean, like, a hospital
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nutritionist is giving people peanut butter and jelly's bedside.
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Like you said, it's broken.
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Right?
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So you're you're, shifting the paradigm in another direction, which is fantastic.
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So really, really love that.
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I actually worked in a hospital for while I was doing my dietetic internship, and I remember my
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like, the whole time I was like, I came in as an entrepreneur, and I was like, I'm going to
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be an entrepreneur after this.
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And my dietetic director, she was like, why are you in one of the best clinical programs in
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this country if you're not gonna go clinical?
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And I was like, because I need to learn what's going on in those systems because all of my
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patients have to understand and myself, like, we all go through that hospital system at some
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point in our lives, and I need to understand it from the ground up.
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I know I need to know internally how the teams are working, how the dietitians are working in
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those teams, and that's why I love doing my internship.
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I hated it, but I loved, like, what I learned out of it.
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It was absolutely brutal, but I get it now.
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Right?
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Like, I get why the dietitians are feeding them peanut butter sandwiches.
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I get why they're feeding them ice cream sundaes.
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Like, I get it.
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If I was them, I would be doing the same thing.
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It's not because they want to be doing that.
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It's because of how the system is set up that they have no better choice.
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And at that point, when you're sick, calories are calories.
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Like, we have to get something in them.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And that's where they're taught, and they kinda just follow that that model.
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Right?
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Like, very similar to many MDs.
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And, again, like, I think doctors are are smart people for the most part, but you get taught
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what to think, right, versus how to think a lot of the of the time.
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So I think, it's it's great to see people like yourself, especially young people, like,
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shifting that.
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Right?
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Like, we're kind of the next, I don't know, generation of of docs that are trying to do
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something a little bit different and focus more on the patient than the, like, the process.
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This is right.
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I recently saw a statistic that said, like, twenty six percent of doctors are going to
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leave the clinical setting in the next, like, five years or something.
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Don't quote me on that, but it was something ridiculous where it was like, people are
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leaving the health.
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I even my friend lives in, Boston and is a dietitian up there in Boston Children's.
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And she was saying, like, the turnover there at in the hospitals.
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Like, no one wants to stay in hospitals anymore.
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No one wants to work there.
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Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, like, what's the energy like in a hospital?
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It's usually not great.
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Right?
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It's pretty negative.
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It's very just I don't think people really get, like, healthier in a hospital.
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Maybe they're, like, being saved from some kind of life threatening, like, injury or illness
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acutely, but, like, you're not they're not ultimately getting healthier.
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Right?
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And that that's gotta happen, honestly, like, at home, right, with your diet and and
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nutrition stuff, which is kinda segues right into what I wanted to ask.
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Can you explain a little bit the the unique approach that you have with the CorePerform
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that, you know, helps people to optimize their their metabolic and digestive health and and
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how you kinda came up with that?
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So while I was going through this, I kinda was like, as a dietitian, what is the most
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inclusive diet that I could create that was least inflammatory for the most amount of
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people?
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Which means that, like, if I just gave it to Jane May, who I don't even know Jane Doe.
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That's the correct
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I like May.
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If I give it yeah.
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Jane May.
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If I give it to Jane May and I don't know what's going on with her, will she see a
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benefit from this diet?
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And so what I did was I combined aspects of paleo, AIP, low histamine, low FODMAP.
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But what I did was those diets, a lot of them are actually they're not, like, changing any
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carbohydrate intake or fat or protein intake.
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Like, you can still eat all those things on all of the diets, but what changes is the specific
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fruits and vegetables.
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So I went through those lists and I made, like, a really, really, micronutrient dense foods
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list for my patients that's put into three columns a little bit mirrored from this WALLS
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protocol.
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If you've ever heard of the WALLS diet, which is a clinical, evidence based.
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She's done clinical trials on her diet, intervention.
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And it's kind of picking up pieces of that as well, where it's really focusing on the three
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phases of your liver detoxification system, b vitamins, antioxidants, and then proteins.
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And, so I've created this diet.
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Right?
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And so everyone who comes to me, we typically, for the most part I mean, of course, there's
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modulations based off the person, but we put them on this elimination diet.
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And as quickly as we can, we reintroduce the food back into the diet.
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And the reason why we do this is because food sensitivity tests are not accurate.
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And the only true way to identify food sensitivity and to heal from any food
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sensitivities that might have come up is to eliminate and exchange whatever food that
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you're eating.
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So we see huge results without even needing to do expensive testing, put expensive supplements
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on you, do whatever it is.
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It's truly a natural process that we try and focus on.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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I do some some similar stuff in my practice, not as in-depth as you, but what's, like, the
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buy in with patients?
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Is that tough for you to get, you know, people to, hey.
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Let's make sure we're eliminating this.
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Is that what what's, like, what kind of roadblocks do you come in into contact with?
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Honestly, there's really it's not very difficult for the first week or two.
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Right?
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And the reason being that I think that most people have there's really no roadblock to be
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completely honest.
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Yeah.
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Because within the first week, people feel so much better.
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Like, I have people losing between zero to 10 pounds.
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I had a girl once lose 10 pounds of water.
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I had her tracking her calories every day.
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I was like, you're hitting the same macro.
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She came from a bodybuilding background.
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She lost 10 pounds of water in a in a week.
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I was like, how are you alive?
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Like, how do
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you Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That much information in your system?
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Yeah.
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I feel like one thing I love about you, you know, there's a book.
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I think they call it it's called the speed of trust.
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And it's one of those things when they're coming to you, you're just, like, building that
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trust as fast as possible or already have it just because, obviously, your background.
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So they're coming to you and they're like, look.
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I need help.
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But the other thing that I love what you're saying is, like, it's part of the reason why I
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love doctor Lane Norton.
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He's all about the science.
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Give me the science first.
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Like, I'm I'm I wanna be science forward.
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I wanna figure out, like, the root, and then and then we'll then we'll trace back, and and
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help you.
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So this is another question.
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In terms of, like, a hundred percent success rate in core perform.
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Because, like, those when proteins, when we I take proteins when I'm working out.
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They majority of them do leave you bloated.
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They there's some sort of digestive angle that, like, throws you off.
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But now you've helped over 500 clients.
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I think it's more at this point in three months, but you've had a % success rate.
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Can you share you've already shared a couple, but some inspiring stories or success
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transformations that you've seen.
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Do you wanna differentiate the difference between my protein supplement company and the
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coaching side of the company?
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Because Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Protein company, I only started because of my clients.
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Because when I started putting them on this elimination, that was like, you know, the
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basic, like, hey.
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Let's not use processed whey proteins that make you fart all the time.
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And they were like, okay, Dasha.
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Well, what's the solution?
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And I said, you know, I don't have one.
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The plant based proteins on the market right now have heavy metals in them.
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They have tons of gums and fillers, and they're filled with, like, vegetable fibers and all
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this.
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Like, the ingredients list is so long, and the amino acid intake is not optimized, which means
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that I need you having double the amount.
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Can you imagine someone with GI distress now having to have double the amount of this chalky
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protein and liking it?
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Like, this just doesn't make sense.
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So I was like, you know, I need to create an amino acid optimized formula that matches whey
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in a one to one scoop.
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So just as much leucine, just as much essential amino acids in this one scoop as this, whey
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protein scoop does.
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And that's why I created that that CorePerform formula that was top line, allergen friendly,
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that could be digested, that didn't have gums, that didn't have artificial sweeteners, and
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still tasted amazing.
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So that's why I created the CorePerform protein powder, but I do not require my patients to use
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it at all.
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I only use I only created it for them because they were asking me for that solution to begin
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with.
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And I say, hey.
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This is one option, but, like, if you want to try beef isolate, you can try that.
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I personally think that that tastes like metal, but you can try that.
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And, like, you can try all these other options.
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That's awesome.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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And I think, you know, we've gone I've gone through in my past of, you know, being an
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athlete, bodybuilding, and, like, just being a you know, becoming a chiropractor and stuff.
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I've gone through so many different brands of proteins, and there's some I like better than
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others.
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But, you know, there's always, like Mhmm.
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Yeah.
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Like, you're talking about the the toss-up between, like, ingredients that are most people
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can't even pronounce it.
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What the hell's in this thing?
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And then is it coming from a clean source?
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So that's fantastic.
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I I I'm gonna I'm gonna get some of your product too because I wanna try that.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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One thing I wanted to ask you too because I've heard it in a previous podcast, and I'm so
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interested because it's come up a number of times.
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And I, like, I'm always asked, like, why?
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Why haven't why don't we know what a, like, a healthy gut looks like?
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Right?
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One of those things we know what, like, an unhealthy gut looks like, but we don't know
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what, like, what are the, like, the precursors to make the healthy gut?
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That's always been, like, a question for me.
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Like, we know what a healthy artery looks like.
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You know, a clean one.
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Why can't we get to the point of, like, what a healthy gut looks like?
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The reason being is because we have millions and billions of these microbes and parasites
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and yeast that create our microbe and or or our microbiome.
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And we would have to quantify and define every single strain in order for that to happen.
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And we haven't even identified all the strains.
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And they change
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Right.
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On probably a week to week basis.
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I mean, those strains are probably replicating and creating new, like, strains on a monthly
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basis in the population.
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We don't know at this point.
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I think that Harvard has done a great job with their human microbiome project.
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So that's why we know a lot of the major species families.
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We can't define quantitatively exactly what constitutes a healthy microbiome because we
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just don't know enough yet.
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And there's so much diversity biodiversity between people and from different places.
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Right?
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So, like, I have identical twin sons.
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Most likely, their microbiomes are gonna be different in some way.
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Right?
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Even though their identical twins are their genetics are the same.
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And, you know, we grew up in different areas, drinking different water, eating different
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foods, different, like, social interactions that all influences it.
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So there's yeah.
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I I get what you're saying.
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It's like, is it even possible?
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Right?
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Like, down the line.
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Who would you define as the healthiest human being to have the healthiest microbiome?
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Is it the person that lived the longest, that had the most kids, like, the female that was
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able to, like, reproduce as many times as possible?
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Like, what defines Which health reasons been heathen.
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I don't know.
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I was watching this documentary on the centurions, like, how to live to a hundred.
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I don't know if you saw that, like, the blue zones.
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Like, he went in and he, like, kinda measured things.
00:18:44
Yeah.
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It was really interesting to see, but if I had to say, I'd I'd look at those people's guts.
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I'd be like, those are the people I wanna look at.
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There was a there was a, like, a hundred year old man in Costa Rica that was, like, hopping
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up on a horse and just riding along.
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He was a hundred and two.
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I'm like, dude, I want that dude's gut.
00:19:01
I'm like, whatever that is.
00:19:03
But, dude, again, it's, like, also, like, the soil in Costa Rica versus the soil in Sardinia,
00:19:07
Greece is, like, they're it's different.
00:19:09
Right?
00:19:09
So, like, their their crops are growing in different climates, different stuff.
00:19:12
So they're you gotta imagine their microbiome is gonna be different even though both these
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guys are looked healthy at a hundred and two.
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You know what I mean?
00:19:20
Like so, yeah, I I get what you're saying.
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It's like like, how does how do we even start
00:19:24
Yeah.
00:19:24
Knowing that.
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Well, just from a longevity perspective, I always think of of how it's not necessarily how
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long I live, but how young I lived, right, to the age.
00:19:35
Right?
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So if I'm 80 and I'm I'm living young, I kinda wanna mimic, right, that as a staple and maybe
00:19:42
reverse engineer somebody that looks like that versus somebody that gets to 80 or or even a
00:19:47
hundred.
00:19:48
Right?
00:19:49
But, man, they're not holding it together.
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They're walking.
00:19:51
You know, I'd rather think of the imagery of, well, I got to 80, but I died as young as
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possible.
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So from a longevity standpoint and how, like, we're learning Right.
00:20:02
Specifically from you, you know, just day after day how important that gut layering is to the
00:20:07
rest of the body from an inflammatory perspective.
00:20:10
It's, pretty pretty interesting.
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Anyway, that was that was something that I've learned over the past couple weeks.
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I'm like, that'd be, that'd be cool.
00:20:16
Yeah.
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They've done.
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So they have actually profiled, the microbiome of, like, the Hadza population that they've
00:20:25
based the paleo diet off of, and they've also done a few more, profilings of I believe it's,
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like, Italians and, other populations that seem to have the healthiest microbiome.
00:20:38
So they're trying to put together the general, like, overviews and overlaps that they can see,
00:20:45
but still, we're not close to what exact quantitative amounts and what that really can
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be defined as.
00:20:51
When you when you start talking about, like, these other countries and stuff, it's like they
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have different standards than our country as far as, like, what happens to the crop.
00:20:58
Right?
00:20:59
Like, can I I I guess tell me your opinion on this?
00:21:01
Like, somebody who is maybe especially gluten intolerant or sensitive to gluten here in this
00:21:07
country can somehow go to Italy and eat pasta and not have a reaction.
00:21:14
How much of that do you think?
00:21:16
And and, again, like, maybe we don't even know the answer, but how much of that do you think
00:21:19
is actually the gluten or is this what they're spraying on the crops here in this country?
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Right?
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Even if you get organic, there's there's water runoff that can get into the soil and and, you
00:21:28
know, everything's basically laced nowadays.
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Not a % sure, and I have not looked into the research on this.
00:21:35
However, I will say that when we have allergenic reactions, we're reacting to the
00:21:41
proteins.
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Right?
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So we're reacting to the proteins of the specific crop that we're eating.
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That's why people are allergic to fruits and vegetables.
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When we react to it, we're responding to the proteins.
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So I don't know that that specific species has a different gluten creation, maybe.
00:22:01
I look at, like, a bodybuilding perspective where if you repeatedly eat the same thing that
00:22:05
is inflammatory, you will become sensitive to it.
00:22:08
A lot of people talk about this in bodybuilding with, like, oats, for example, or something
00:22:13
like that.
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And for us to say that it's the grain versus the spray, I'm not sure.
00:22:20
Right.
00:22:20
Yeah.
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There's been a recent study that said that people who eat more fruits and vegetables in
00:22:26
our country live longer.
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And what's sprayed with glyphosate?
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They had the highest amount of fruits and vegetables and of glyphosate in their system,
00:22:36
and they lived the longest.
00:22:38
So is that saying that glyphosate is safe?
00:22:41
And fruits and vegetables, no matter what, will make you feel better?
00:22:45
Like, taking that knowledge and then applying it to is it the spraying when we go abroad?
00:22:50
I don't think we know the answer yet.
00:22:51
I would only assume that it has to do more with specific species that we're consuming in in The
00:22:57
US, and I think that it has more to do with that versus something abroad.
00:23:03
I don't wanna go off this topic because you mentioned something that I'd we didn't have in
00:23:07
our questions that I definitely wanna tap into is the bodybuilding.
00:23:11
How did you get into that?
00:23:12
Like, how did you what was the antithesis?
00:23:15
Was that something like that it was always programmed, and you're like, oh, I wanna get
00:23:18
into that?
00:23:19
Yeah.
00:23:19
I'm an optimizer.
00:23:20
I nerded out in college, so I
00:23:23
talked to
00:23:24
you about this call here.
00:23:25
I love optimizing, so I was looking at, like, what is the healthiest diet and what is the
00:23:31
most effective effective exercise for longevity?
00:23:34
And I think that during college, I was really focusing on looks.
00:23:39
Right?
00:23:40
And at then and while I was going through college, I realized, you know, fits has nothing
00:23:44
to do with how you look and everything.
00:23:47
And the I think because of bodybuilding, once I kinda left that chapter almost, I was like,
00:23:53
fitness is nothing about bodybuilding.
00:23:55
Fitness is about how long you live and how many times you can reproduce.
00:24:00
That in a biological standpoint is exactly what fitness is.
00:24:04
How many offspring you can have and how long you can live in order to come continue to have
00:24:08
those offspring and nurture a family.
00:24:10
So at that point, I was like, that's what fitness is.
00:24:14
And that's when I started focusing a little bit more on adding in in hormone integration and
00:24:19
optimizing hormones and wanting to make sure we add that into our gut and hormone life.
00:24:24
And I think that overall, what I've learned from everything that I've studied and even,
00:24:29
like, diet and lifestyle and all the patients I've seen is that there is a huge mental
00:24:34
component and that every single one of those, like, blue zone communities, it's the
00:24:40
community.
00:24:41
The peep in a community last the longest.
00:24:44
They have the least amount of stress.
00:24:46
They are passively active.
00:24:47
They have stress resilience because they just they can be stressed, and then they don't feel
00:24:53
stressed throughout the day.
00:24:54
Like, they have a we have a siesta in the middle of the day.
00:24:58
You know?
00:24:58
Like, we Three.
00:24:59
They're relaxed.
00:25:00
For sure.
00:25:01
And in The US, we live under constant pressure.
00:25:04
We have
00:25:05
so much to do.
00:25:06
So are you up at 4AM to get to your your family?
00:25:10
That is
00:25:11
the opposite of what longevity is.
00:25:14
Right?
00:25:14
Yeah.
00:25:14
That perspective is awesome because bodybuilders and people who are performing like
00:25:19
these athletes like you did bikini shows.
00:25:20
Right?
00:25:20
Like, you get down to that, especially as a as a female, you get down to that, like, 10% body
00:25:26
fat.
00:25:26
Mhmm.
00:25:27
That is extremely low for a woman.
00:25:29
Hormones are gonna be dysregulated, right, because your body has to prioritize other
00:25:32
things, right, like keeping you alive and and your your metabolism and stuff.
00:25:36
So you're not gonna be primed for getting pregnant and having children in that physical
00:25:41
state.
00:25:41
So, like, you said, is that fitness?
00:25:43
You might look amazing.
00:25:45
Right?
00:25:45
You might look like the specimen of a human, but, you know, what's the longevity, and how
00:25:51
many children can you produce that that exact, example you just made?
00:25:54
That that's a great way to look at it.
00:25:55
I've never actually thought of it like that.
00:25:57
So thank you.
00:25:57
That's fantastic.
00:25:58
Yeah.
00:25:59
That's so cool to think of, like, fitness.
00:26:01
That is fitness.
00:26:02
Like, you said those words.
00:26:03
Like, that is that is true fitness.
00:26:05
I'd love that.
00:26:05
I mean, more people are moving into that mobility style training.
00:26:09
I think, like, we can body build from, like, 20 to 35.
00:26:12
And then once you hit 35, like, you really gotta hit the mobility aspects, like, the Tai
00:26:17
Chi kinda thing.
00:26:18
Like
00:26:19
Yeah.
00:26:19
Yeah.
00:26:20
Gotta start stress like, lowering stress, getting the gentle movements going, getting
00:26:24
ready for that kind of exercise.
00:26:26
My favorite trend right now that I've seen on social media is, like, the dad, like, filming
00:26:30
himself working out.
00:26:31
He's like, I don't work out to be the healthiest guy or to be the fittest.
00:26:34
He's like, I work out so I can dominate my kids for in any in a athletic endeavor for as long
00:26:39
as possible.
00:26:40
And I saw that.
00:26:40
I was like, that's awesome, man.
00:26:42
It's like being able whatever it is.
00:26:43
Right?
00:26:44
Whether it's, like, hiking up a mountain or, like, going for a run or swim.
00:26:47
You know?
00:26:47
Like, you gotta be well rounded and, like, you can be in the best physical looking shape,
00:26:52
like, six pack, all that.
00:26:53
But if you can't bend over to pick up your kid without herniating a disc, how healthy are you?
00:26:58
Right?
00:26:58
Like alright.
00:26:59
So we we got a question here.
00:27:00
This is a little bit shifted from from, like, the gut health stuff, but, you know, you're an
00:27:04
entrepreneur.
00:27:04
Right?
00:27:05
Being an entrepreneur is very demanding.
00:27:06
Right?
00:27:06
We're both entrepreneurs as well.
00:27:08
How do you balance that entrepreneurial life and those endeavors with the personal life with
00:27:14
the health and your own health?
00:27:15
Do you have aspiring entrepreneurs looking to maintain a healthy work life balance that come
00:27:19
to you and maybe you coach them through that kind of stuff as well?
00:27:21
So I've been through, like, all phases of entrepreneurship, and I think that every
00:27:25
entrepreneur has phases of isolation, and every entrepreneur has, like, an epiphany and a a
00:27:33
realization of what balance truly looks like in their life.
00:27:37
And the key to that is always community, in my opinion.
00:27:40
And I don't know if you guys have experienced too because It's
00:27:43
up.
00:27:43
When you're in the isolation, it might be a good point for you.
00:27:46
Right?
00:27:46
Like, maybe you're grinding, you're building the business, etcetera, but you can't you can
00:27:50
build the business, but you can't grow the business until you start talking to people,
00:27:56
laughing more, having that community, relaxing because you'll burn out.
00:28:00
Yep.
00:28:00
We'll burn out if you don't step out of that zone.
00:28:04
And so I think that's, like, my biggest takeaway of it is being an entrepreneur.
00:28:07
And, like, now I just recently, like, three or four weeks ago moved in with some of my best
00:28:12
friends.
00:28:13
One of them is an entrepreneur.
00:28:14
One of them is actually does, like, m and a for an a big company here.
00:28:19
So he knows a lot about, like, financial businesses and buying businesses and what makes
00:28:24
a good business, scaling a business.
00:28:27
Cool.
00:28:27
And living with other entrepreneurs is a game changer.
00:28:31
Mhmm.
00:28:31
Mhmm.
00:28:31
Because now even every single week, we have we have a team meeting on Sundays.
00:28:36
And on Sundays, we talk about all our house rules, about everything else, but we also talk
00:28:40
about our businesses.
00:28:42
And we get feedback from each other, and we get new ideas from each other, and we're constantly
00:28:46
supporting each other to grow.
00:28:48
And I think that that kind of environment specifically for entrepreneurs is so so
00:28:52
valuable and why I think the future of entrepreneurship is gonna be more of these,
00:28:56
like, masterminds versus everyone working on their own thing and and getting angry at each
00:29:02
other or, like, competing against each other.
00:29:04
It's gonna be more like, hey.
00:29:05
We're all doing the same thing.
00:29:06
Like, let's talk to each other and grow together because I don't wanna waste my time
00:29:11
learning about what email copy has the best open rate if you've already spent three months
00:29:15
on that and have data.
00:29:16
Right.
00:29:16
You know?
00:29:17
Why learn something that somebody else can, you know, kinda give you insight on?
00:29:20
And it doesn't have to be that lonely life, right, that, like, that is so portrayed.
00:29:24
It's like the entrepreneur grind is this lonely head down.
00:29:27
Because, like, I've almost burned out twice in my business.
00:29:29
Like, in a I know what it feels like when you're just, like, not feeling that purpose,
00:29:33
not feeling that that love for what you're doing, not really wanting to go to work in the
00:29:37
morning.
00:29:37
It's not great, man.
00:29:38
And, like, you're like, damn, my name's on the door.
00:29:40
I kinda have to go now.
00:29:41
So it's like you know?
00:29:43
But, yeah, having the community is is huge.
00:29:45
That's awesome.
00:29:46
Another big thing that you had mentioned in there, and it's just like it's part of the
00:29:50
reason why Alfie and I love doing this.
00:29:53
Laughing.
00:29:54
Like, laughing is such a key component to longevity of just, like, genuinely enjoying
00:29:59
the, like, laugh being intentional about laughing and having a good time.
00:30:03
Yeah.
00:30:04
That, like, brings so much joy.
00:30:06
Ed Mylett was talking about this.
00:30:07
I got coached by him last year, and he was just like, you're always chasing a feeling.
00:30:11
Right?
00:30:12
And laughter brings out a feeling that's, like, unparalleled to anything else.
00:30:16
It's just like when you can laugh with people and just genuinely have that good time, like,
00:30:21
when you say that is fitness, like, that is happiness, laughing.
00:30:25
It also will increase your full tone.
00:30:28
So it also will increase your vagal tone, and your gut health will thank you.
00:30:32
Boom.
00:30:32
Look at that, everybody.
00:30:33
Laughing for it.
00:30:34
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Now back to the episode.
00:32:00
Yeah.
00:32:01
So that that is also another big thing, that I wanna tap into even a little bit more because
00:32:07
you said community.
00:32:08
Right?
00:32:09
Community is everything for you, but then you're also building community for other people
00:32:14
and how important that is for, like, collaboration and to grow together and get
00:32:18
healthier together.
00:32:19
How has that been for you?
00:32:20
How how has Ben building what the core perform community that's utilizing your product because
00:32:26
that is a community of itself.
00:32:28
And then, obviously, your coaching side of building that community and elevating each
00:32:32
other and really getting people to respond.
00:32:34
Right?
00:32:34
Like, that cultivating piece.
00:32:36
How has that been for you, and what's that been like?
00:32:38
Oh, there's so many things I can talk about that we do.
00:32:40
I think the support is the biggest thing and just knowing that you're not alone, especially
00:32:44
when you're sick is, like, showing up and feeling like the first question people ask me,
00:32:49
how long will this how long until I feel better?
00:32:53
And the truth is I can't I can't tell you how long until you feel better, honestly, because a
00:32:59
lot of people like, there's a fifty fifty shot on anything, even prescription medication for a
00:33:04
lot of those prescription medications.
00:33:06
Like, sometimes doctors just throw something at you to see if it works.
00:33:10
And then if it doesn't, they'll change it up and use something else.
00:33:12
There's
00:33:13
there's a lot of things that every person's they will just respond differently to.
00:33:17
And so while you're teetering with that, it's so important to have other people who have who
00:33:22
can keep you motivated and who can say like, oh, yeah.
00:33:25
That that really helped me.
00:33:27
Or I really love this recipe because when I had was really had a stomachache, like, this really
00:33:32
helped me.
00:33:32
And making that community to have that support, making you feel less alone is truly what
00:33:39
building the community is all about, and having fun.
00:33:43
Like, having fun in the process.
00:33:45
So with our athletes for core perform, and if anyone's listening to this and wants to be one
00:33:49
of our affiliates and athletes, we're always welcoming new ones, but we have a WhatsApp
00:33:54
group.
00:33:54
And, like, I'll always, like, tell them, like, hey.
00:33:57
I'm debating between new flavors, like this one or this one, and they get to vote on it.
00:34:01
Or they'll Cool.
00:34:02
Make new reels.
00:34:03
And then we have, like, this competition every month, and we send them a PDF of, like, fun
00:34:09
challenges.
00:34:10
And they win free protein, and they win free, like, other things that we partner with other
00:34:15
companies for.
00:34:15
So just make it fun and make it supportive and give as much as you can.
00:34:19
And I think that that builds community and camaraderie.
00:34:23
We have a a similar mission too is trying to grow a community of people that are very like
00:34:27
minded.
00:34:27
We're gonna be rolling out a a program in maybe by the time this episode airs, we'll be ready,
00:34:32
but, we're gonna call it the optimizers program.
00:34:34
And it's basically for people who are looking to maybe, you know, maybe they're dialed in in
00:34:38
a lot of areas of their life, but not optimized, and we're trying to take it to the
00:34:42
next level.
00:34:42
It's gonna be for high level people, maybe mostly entrepreneurs or, people who have
00:34:47
achieved success in many other areas, but maybe their health has been on the side.
00:34:51
But it's gonna be a community.
00:34:53
So you're gonna have access to everyone else.
00:34:54
You're gonna be able to say, hey.
00:34:55
What are you struggling with?
00:34:56
And there's gonna be a lot of sharing, and it's just gonna be open open cohort forum where, you
00:35:01
know, you're you got accountability, and you also have, like, you can be vulnerable and say,
00:35:05
hey.
00:35:05
I'm not feeling it today.
00:35:06
Like, who else is you know?
00:35:08
You're not on your own doing it.
00:35:09
Right?
00:35:09
Like, I think a lot of the the struggles I've had at least with with, you know, doing any
00:35:14
kind of, like, nutrition coaching with patients has been.
00:35:17
And even with chiropractic, it's like that buy in when they're on their own and me constantly
00:35:21
having to reaffirm reaffirm, hey.
00:35:23
You're you're doing well.
00:35:24
You're doing okay.
00:35:25
We're gonna get through this.
00:35:26
Right?
00:35:26
But when they got when you got someone doing it with you, like, if I get, like, say, a a
00:35:30
husband and wife come in for chiropractic care and they're doing it together and I put them on
00:35:34
a similar protocol where they're coming in twice a week together, the results are always
00:35:38
better.
00:35:38
It really is.
00:35:39
And I I should I should get a study done or do some, like, internal work on, like, the
00:35:43
numbers.
00:35:43
But when you have, like, accountability buddy, man, it's it's night and day for sure.
00:35:48
Accountability will transform people's lives and make sure that there's different theories
00:35:54
of behavior change.
00:35:55
I took an entire class on it in my master's
00:35:58
Yes.
00:35:59
That that but there's, like, external motivators, internal motivators.
00:36:03
And in order to get to the external or the internal, like, habit routine building, you
00:36:09
have to sometimes have, like, an external motivator like a friend or an accountability
00:36:12
partner who will get you there.
00:36:14
You you typically work one on one, or do you bring them collectively in the community almost
00:36:18
right away?
00:36:19
Or do you work with them one on one and then bringing them into the community?
00:36:22
We have weekly calls in our community.
00:36:25
And then on top of that, if they want the extra support, and then on top of that, we have the
00:36:29
one on one check-in.
00:36:30
So they get the opportunity to feel part of a community.
00:36:34
Like, this on Monday, we did vision boarding for 2024.
00:36:38
So we talked all about resolutions and what happened last year, what we can look forward to
00:36:44
next year, and how we can create, OKRs for that outcome.
00:36:49
Are you
00:36:50
an EOS, entrepreneur organizational system, to run your KPIs and OKRs and
00:36:55
I do it myself.
00:36:56
You do it yourself.
00:36:56
I love it.
00:36:56
As a fellow entrepreneur, I am a lawyer.
00:36:59
I'm the lawyer.
00:37:00
I'm the operations manager.
00:37:02
I'm the cook.
00:37:03
I am the everything in the business.
00:37:05
Are you familiar with traction?
00:37:06
Are you familiar, like, with any o the OS model?
00:37:09
You ever you ever read those?
00:37:10
Oh, really?
00:37:11
They're they're pretty good books.
00:37:12
So there's a book called Traction
00:37:13
I'll have it.
00:37:14
And that's scaling up by, Verne Harnish.
00:37:16
He's he's really good.
00:37:17
He's based out of Colorado.
00:37:18
But all these practical things, but that you're talking about.
00:37:23
But, like, I do them personally.
00:37:24
So we actually, I met with, some guys this morning, including Alfie, and we kinda have a
00:37:29
scorecard of life that we build out things.
00:37:32
And those are kind of our OKRs and our KPIs for the week of how we're focusing on faith,
00:37:37
family, relationship, finance, and business, and fitness, and health.
00:37:40
So we wanna make sure we're queuing those up and measuring those on a weekly basis.
00:37:44
But then in business, obviously, I wanna know how my you know, the sales department's doing,
00:37:48
the marketing department, the operations, and then the finance.
00:37:52
So that's, that was just from an entrepreneurship question, I wanted to tap into
00:37:57
real quick.
00:37:57
But you've had a, you've had a lot of accolades and recognitions throughout your career.
00:38:02
So and it's short.
00:38:03
You're young.
00:38:04
Aren't you you're how how old are you, Rena?
00:38:06
Twenty nine.
00:38:06
You're 29.
00:38:07
You're so young.
00:38:08
It's still
00:38:08
And you've just had, remarkable, obviously, acceleration in your field.
00:38:14
I love the research piece.
00:38:15
What achievements stand out for you, like, just right now and then that it from the past?
00:38:21
And then what what do you got on the horizon?
00:38:23
What what are you thinking of?
00:38:25
What next year and then maybe in the next couple years?
00:38:28
But what's one thing that really stands out to you?
00:38:31
And then what do you what do you got some, what what are some things that are coming up that
00:38:35
you're really excited about?
00:38:36
So I've never felt proud in my life.
00:38:39
I think that this may be actually a common thing with females and especially who have this
00:38:45
type a personality.
00:38:46
Like, I've never really felt out of my life except for one moment.
00:38:51
And that one moment was when I graduated Tufts, because so many people bash colleges and
00:38:59
schools at nowadays.
00:39:01
They're like, no one needs that.
00:39:03
Honestly, that school changed my life.
00:39:07
They gave me opportunity and I'm forever indebted for that opportunity and for those
00:39:12
connections and for the research and for the knowledge that they gave me.
00:39:17
And so graduating from that and feeling a part of that community, feeling a part of, like, a
00:39:23
higher level of standards, feeling a part of, yeah, we have the White House on on the other
00:39:32
line, and we are all in a room with Kellogg and Campbell.
00:39:35
Like, giving me that opportunity to take me to that higher level and graduating from that
00:39:40
school, that's the proudest moment I think I've felt.
00:39:43
And then second to that would be when I actually won the pitch competition a year or
00:39:47
two later, was I cried as I was when I did that.
00:39:52
That's awesome.
00:39:54
That's so cool to hear about that.
00:39:56
What do you what do you have in the works for CorePerform and for your and for your coaching
00:40:01
program?
00:40:01
Like, what what are things that you're looking in future tense?
00:40:04
Maybe some goals, that you have.
00:40:07
And it could be clients, or what what what are some things that you're thinking of in the
00:40:10
future?
00:40:11
We have some fun ideas.
00:40:12
I and and I and this is purely, like, social media and reach, and we can get into the nitty
00:40:17
gritty of things.
00:40:18
But I think I we're we're looking to expand our social networks in the next the next year.
00:40:26
So we're looking at into more Facebook utilization, which I know a lot of people are
00:40:31
actually staying away from, but also YouTube.
00:40:35
And so we're just trying to test out the waters, and I think entrepreneurship is
00:40:39
constantly a, like, a risk.
00:40:42
You kinda have to take risks in in different areas and grow different channels.
00:40:47
So I think we've mastered Instagram at this point, and now it's a matter of okay.
00:40:51
We've had systems and operations set for Instagram.
00:40:55
Let's now open up and now add a YouTube component.
00:40:58
Now add whatever else component, a TikTok component, whatever else.
00:41:01
And so we can increase our lead gen.
00:41:03
So that's what we're working on from a business perspective, part of the next year, I think.
00:41:08
That's awesome.
00:41:09
That's awesome.
00:41:09
Socials is such a massive strategy.
00:41:12
Yeah.
00:41:12
But then also, like, that piece and I wanna focus on this a little bit because, like, that
00:41:17
product element that, like, that touches me because I feel like I have a really hard time
00:41:21
with that of enjoying the process so much that, like, I get these daily pride moments every
00:41:28
day.
00:41:28
I'm, like, trying to go back to that of, like, I like, man, I'm I was actually proud of
00:41:34
yesterday.
00:41:34
Like, I like, not one of those things where I'm constantly driving forward.
00:41:39
But literally, I'm going through this, like, scenario even even the, like, this week, right,
00:41:45
of, like, I'm so forward, forward bound that, like, these proud moments should be happening,
00:41:51
like, more often, I feel like.
00:41:54
Because we talk about that longevity component of just being able to laugh and Yeah.
00:41:58
And enjoy that process of the journey.
00:42:01
I don't wanna get to the point where, I'm I I like bringing this Tom Brady analogy, but,
00:42:07
like, when the next ring's always the best one, I wanna be able to process things, like, kind
00:42:14
of, like, as they happen and as things slow down.
00:42:18
What's your, just what's your take on that?
00:42:21
You made me think of, like, gratitude gratitude journaling.
00:42:24
And Yeah.
00:42:25
I can tell my I am telling every single day.
00:42:27
I'm so freaking blessed of what I do.
00:42:30
I get to help so many people, and it made me think, what is the difference between gratitude
00:42:34
and pride?
00:42:36
And so I think gratitude and pride, they're slightly different in that gratitude you are
00:42:42
thankful and grateful for the place that you've been.
00:42:45
Pride is taking accountability that you yourself have gotten you to this point.
00:42:50
Right?
00:42:51
It's more about you there's, like, a you component versus anything else.
00:42:56
That's great.
00:42:57
Great perspective on that.
00:42:58
Hey.
00:42:59
So we we've loved having you on here.
00:43:00
This conversation was awesome.
00:43:01
This is the the best one we've had, man.
00:43:04
I wanna ask you one last question.
00:43:05
We usually ask this of everyone that comes on the show.
00:43:08
So we at Full Fueled here talk about, like, how are we living our life fully fueled?
00:43:12
We have these six pillars that we focus on, fuel, movement, sleep, mind, so, like, mindset,
00:43:19
work and purpose, and then spirit.
00:43:21
Tell me a little bit about, like, what does that mean to you to be full fueled, and and how
00:43:25
does that, how do you see yourself living your life full fueled?
00:43:28
I love that because we have the same very similar ones at CorePerform.
00:43:31
We have CorePerform five pillars, sleep, personal stress, environmental stress,
00:43:35
exercise, and diet.
00:43:36
And once you've mastered the stressors of those five things, you're living life free.
00:43:41
And so if I were to say what does living life fully fueled mean, it means you're living life
00:43:46
free, full of love, and full of giving love.
00:43:50
That was a knockout answer.
00:43:52
I love that.
00:43:53
Can you tell, the listeners a little bit about, you know, where they can learn more about you
00:43:57
online, website, Instagram, all of it?
00:44:00
Just kinda plug yourself here.
00:44:01
Absolutely.
00:44:02
So my Instagram is Dasha Fitness, d a s h a fitness.
00:44:06
And then our website is coreperform.com.
00:44:09
And if you're interested in trying the protein, you can head right to our website.
00:44:13
You can get 15% off on your first order.
00:44:17
And we're on Amazon as well.
00:44:19
And you can always shoot me an email.
00:44:21
All my links and everything is gonna be linked below.
00:44:23
I'm sure.
00:44:24
Everyone listening needs to follow Dasha Yeah.
00:44:26
At Dasha Fitness because
00:44:28
I'm a good man.
00:44:29
And it is like pure value.
00:44:31
Yeah.
00:44:31
Like, she she puts a lot of effort into her Instagram feed to provide a tremendous amount
00:44:37
of value.
00:44:38
So I couldn't encourage it more.
00:44:40
Please go follow her because she is absolutely just at, like, free value driven.
00:44:46
So if there's anyone you follow, please go follow Dasha.
00:44:50
She's amazing.
00:44:51
Thank you so much.
00:44:52
And you're reminding me that we do have a free value opportunity.
00:44:55
If you guys wanna try out the core perform diet yourselves, we're gonna be running a challenge
00:44:59
next month.
00:45:00
January 7 is when we'll start.
00:45:02
So definitely head to my page because registration will open the January, and we'll
00:45:07
be giving out free, like, coaching training for a whole week altogether in a WhatsApp community
00:45:12
and giving you all the recipes you need, how to tackle your health, and all the things.
00:45:17
So if you want free for the next year, you can join us then.
00:45:20
Well, awesome.
00:45:21
That's what we got here at, Live Full Field.
00:45:23
Live Beyond Limits, baby.
00:45:24
Live Full Field.
00:45:25
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