The 5 Levels of Workout Programming - How to Build a Foundation for Success
ASCEND ABOVE AVERAGEDecember 10, 202300:36:4325.72 MB

The 5 Levels of Workout Programming - How to Build a Foundation for Success

The episode starts with guidance on progression for beginners, emphasizing routine, discipline, and optimizing workouts. It covers managing workout schedules and planning to avoid overtraining. The benefits of varied workouts and coaching are discussed, along with exploring different workout modalities. The importance of stabilization in fitness is highlighted, followed by training for strength, posture, and endurance. The episode delves into hypertrophy training, comparing it with strength endurance. It advances to maximum strength and power training dynamics. Audience Q&A provides tips for gym starters, and the episode concludes with advice on maximizing results with a personal trainer and a teaser for the next episode. (0:00) Introduction and progression for beginners (0:30) Routine, Discipline, and Optimizing Workouts (2:10) Managing Your Workout Schedule (4:03) Planning and Avoiding Overtraining (7:10) Benefits of Varied Workouts and Coaching (10:21) Exploring Different Workout Modalities (14:38) Stabilization and Its Importance in Fitness (19:00) Training for Strength, Posture, and Endurance (21:40) Understanding Hypertrophy Training (24:00) Hypertrophy vs. Strength Endurance (26:29) Advancing to Maximum Strength Training (29:07) The Dynamics of Power Training (31:28) Audience Q&A: Tips for Gym Starters (34:16) Maximizing Results with a Personal Trainer (35:19) Wrap-up and Next Episode Teaser

00:00:00
If you've never trained, if you're untrained person, you've never exercise or anything, you

00:00:04
don't just go into power lifting.

00:00:06
You don't just take up CrossFit.

00:00:08
Like, that's too much.

00:00:09
Yeah.

00:00:09
Body, you don't have the movement patterns developed.

00:00:12
Right?

00:00:12
You maybe have deficiencies.

00:00:14
Maybe your foundation is unlevel, and you're gonna create muscular imbalances faulty

00:00:18
movement patterns.

00:00:19
Right?

00:00:19
So you gotta start with the base level.

00:00:21
So why don't we go through it real quick?

00:00:23
Welcome.

00:00:24
It's episode number 2.

00:00:26
It's a movement pillar.

00:00:27
In our podcast series on Movement, obviously.

00:00:30
That's right.

00:00:30
That's right.

00:00:31
We're gonna be talking about tactical ways of routine, building routine, and a discipline in

00:00:36
your day to day.

00:00:37
Yep.

00:00:37
Really, no matter where you are of incorporating that into a daily discipline, if

00:00:43
not weekly discipline.

00:00:44
Yep.

00:00:45
And being the most optimal you, optimal human living life, full field.

00:00:50
That's right.

00:00:50
I think last time we got a lot of we kinda, like, rabbit trailed a bit and got a little in

00:00:54
the weeds on certain things, which is cool.

00:00:56
Right?

00:00:56
We have more conversation, but this one, we wanna we wanna dive a little bit more into,

00:01:00
like, why routine is so important.

00:01:02
And, you know, why, like because, man, most people are just kinda like, I go to the gym 3

00:01:07
days a week

00:01:08
or even 5 days a week, and

00:01:09
I just kinda do stuff.

00:01:10
And it's like, that's cool.

00:01:12
Right?

00:01:12
Like, it's better than nothing.

00:01:13
I agree.

00:01:14
But we're not here for the, like, basic level.

00:01:17
You know what I mean?

00:01:18
We're not here to just, like, get some work outs.

00:01:19
We're here to optimize and, like, get the most out of your workout so that what you're doing

00:01:24
produces the most results for the effort, right, efficiency, man.

00:01:28
Because, like, Like, dude, we have a lot going on.

00:01:31
I have a lot going on.

00:01:32
You have a lot going on.

00:01:32
You got family.

00:01:33
You got work.

00:01:33
You got all this stuff.

00:01:35
How do you take that work out?

00:01:36
Make it the most efficient bang for your buck work Right.

00:01:39
100%.

00:01:40
Yeah.

00:01:40
It's not about living life on somebody else's understanding of what's optimal or not optimal,

00:01:47
right, is, like, average.

00:01:49
Do you wanna be average or you wanna be optimal?

00:01:51
Right?

00:01:51
Yeah.

00:01:52
I don't I don't wanna be average because, like, typically, if you aggregate data and what the

00:01:57
feedback is, 90% of people are living less than optimal.

00:02:01
Yep.

00:02:02
You wanna live optimally.

00:02:03
Right?

00:02:03
That's right.

00:02:04
And so are you going in with the intention of being optimal and it was super intentional on

00:02:10
your workouts?

00:02:10
Yeah.

00:02:11
And that's what I've been.

00:02:12
That's what that's what I do over the past 5 years.

00:02:15
I've really wanted to intentionally go into my week establishing the base on baselines as the

00:02:21
non negotiables being fully fueled.

00:02:24
So, one of the things that I do just tapping into it is I I set the non negotiables Monday,

00:02:31
Wednesday, Friday.

00:02:31
Right.

00:02:32
And that's the that's my 5:30 workout, 5:30 to 6:30.

00:02:36
And I have to be hyper efficient in that window because I gotta take my girls to school.

00:02:41
Yep.

00:02:41
And so and at that time, right, you have that hour.

00:02:44
That's the only hour that I have.

00:02:46
Right?

00:02:46
Do it.

00:02:46
Yeah.

00:02:46
And so that is the nonnegotiable of, like, alright.

00:02:49
What do I need to do to set the basis of getting the best and most optimal workout that

00:02:55
I possibly can get in that hour.

00:02:56
That's right.

00:02:57
And so for me, obviously, that goes into, and we're gonna go through an extension of But I

00:03:02
think the number one thing that you do is you gotta control your calendar.

00:03:06
Right?

00:03:07
What is the routine?

00:03:07
It's huge.

00:03:08
Controlling your calendar and saying, this is a nonnegotiable.

00:03:12
And Monday, Wednesday, Friday, that is absolutely a nonnegotiable.

00:03:16
Now there could be some fillers in between that Right.

00:03:19
And the gaps that you're like, hey.

00:03:20
I'm gonna I'm gonna get a little bit more in to be more optimal.

00:03:23
Yeah.

00:03:23
But, like, what does that non negotiable hour look like?

00:03:28
Because when Thursday gets around, and you're like, oh, I had planned to work out on, you

00:03:35
know, Thursday afternoon.

00:03:36
Yeah.

00:03:37
But then other fires come and play.

00:03:38
Well, then, you know, It's it hasn't been declared as a nonnegotiable.

00:03:42
So that's for me, and I I'd love to hear your insight.

00:03:45
Nonnegotiable.

00:03:46
It's already programmed into my calendar.

00:03:49
I'm controlling and dictating that.

00:03:51
I do it, obviously, the first thing in the day.

00:03:54
Like, I wanna do it as early as possible.

00:03:56
And then That's how I operate.

00:03:58
The calendar number 1, that needs to be your routine.

00:04:00
How are you setting the baseline?

00:04:01
What is nonnegotiable?

00:04:02
That's right.

00:04:03
Yeah, man.

00:04:03
And and the big one is, like, having a plan, right, like, not just going in, Like, I think

00:04:07
most people, when I was this for a long time, like, high school, like, started lifting in

00:04:11
high school and then got in, like, going into college, it was kind of the same.

00:04:14
You know?

00:04:14
It was, like, I was doing just this what, like, whatever else was doing, what I thought was the

00:04:18
the the bro, like, the bro split routine.

00:04:21
You know?

00:04:22
Like, few days a week, just the same the same for years, man.

00:04:25
And, like, I think most people are doing that.

00:04:27
They're not really having an idea before they go into them.

00:04:29
They're just like, I gotta go to the gym today.

00:04:31
Like, after work, I'm gonna get in there for an hour and they just go, and then they're like,

00:04:35
you know, they're spending time looking for what machines are open or what they're gonna

00:04:38
do.

00:04:38
Maybe they're on their phone for half the freaking workout.

00:04:41
It's like, it's not efficient, man.

00:04:42
It's it's it's getting you maybe, like, a little bit of results, but it's probably just

00:04:46
keeping you where you're at, if anything.

00:04:48
Right?

00:04:48
It's probably just maintaining you.

00:04:49
For sure.

00:04:50
You know, I I think that's for some people, that's cool.

00:04:54
Like, and if that's you, man, like, good for you, like, but that that's that's for the

00:04:58
people who wanna be, like, at the top top percent, man.

00:05:02
Like, you gotta do more.

00:05:03
You gotta be more intentional like what you always say.

00:05:05
And so for me, I write my workouts out, like, Probably a few days in advance.

00:05:10
Right?

00:05:10
Like, and if I'm sticking to a routine, it's like, I already know next week what I'm doing

00:05:13
on Monday.

00:05:14
Right?

00:05:14
I have an idea.

00:05:15
I know what's what exercises are gonna be doing, how many reps, how many sets, all it.

00:05:19
Right?

00:05:19
Like, it's set.

00:05:20
I'm not just like, I think I'll do four sets of chess today instead of 3 because I'm feeling

00:05:24
froggy.

00:05:24
I wanna push a little bit more.

00:05:26
Like, no.

00:05:27
Like, I I know I'm doing this amount of sets.

00:05:29
And it's because I know in 2 days later, I gotta do more.

00:05:32
So I'm not gonna overdo it, be sore shit for 3 days Mhmm.

00:05:35
Not be able to go in and be like, yeah, I'm gonna take off today because I'm sore from day.

00:05:39
That means you did too much.

00:05:40
Your volume was too much.

00:05:41
Right?

00:05:41
So, like, having an idea of how much volume your body can control too, I've realized, man,

00:05:46
that, like, I don't need as much volume as I thought.

00:05:49
I used to go in and do, like, 5 different exercises, four sets each of 10 to 15 reps of a

00:05:56
of a single muscle group, bro.

00:05:57
That's way too much.

00:05:59
Especially then you do that, like, twice a week.

00:06:00
You're just you're you're doing way too much that your body can't recover.

00:06:03
You're gonna have negative gains at that point.

00:06:05
You're gonna end up overtraining.

00:06:07
Right?

00:06:07
And and then at that point, your your results will go backwards, but you'll start being be

00:06:11
you'll start to feel like fatigue and stuff like that set in.

00:06:15
So, I mean, you know, for me, man, it's it's having, like, the intentionality of, like, what

00:06:20
I'm gonna do that day, but also, like, what I'm not gonna do that day is, like, overdo it.

00:06:24
You know what I mean?

00:06:25
And the truth is, like, when you get into this, like, 3 day week split routine chest triceps on

00:06:31
Monday, shoulders back and buys on Wednesday, and then legs on, you know, you that monotony

00:06:37
produces less stimulus over time on your muscles.

00:06:41
Right?

00:06:41
So, like, the same concept with the running we talked about, where if you run the same amount,

00:06:45
eventually your body gets better at preserving fuel and, like, dampening that that, response

00:06:49
to the stimulus.

00:06:50
The same happens with that, man.

00:06:52
Your body gets really your body's so efficient.

00:06:53
They're so smart.

00:06:54
Our bodies are so smart.

00:06:55
It gets good at at being more efficient with that, that it's not gonna get as much out of

00:06:59
it.

00:07:00
Right?

00:07:00
Yeah.

00:07:01
So, you know, it's good to do, like, 1 month of strength training, 5 reps, heavy weight.

00:07:06
Then the next month, maybe you're doing more, like, higher reps endurance type training.

00:07:10
Yeah.

00:07:10
Then you get into some hypertrophy training.

00:07:12
Maybe throw some hit in there.

00:07:13
Right?

00:07:13
Maybe you you push a little bit more cardio 1 month.

00:07:15
Mhmm.

00:07:15
Right?

00:07:16
Maybe you start playing a sport, right, like challenging your nervous system in that

00:07:19
capacity to pick up a skill.

00:07:21
Right?

00:07:21
Learning skills, dude, that's huge.

00:07:23
People who

00:07:23
have never done, like, compound lifts, like, the CrossFit stuff, man, the the the results

00:07:30
they get, like, in the beginning is so impactful because, dude, yeah, they're putting

00:07:34
their bodies, yeah, through these full body, like, movements that they've never done before.

00:07:39
They're learning a a a a skill while building muscle.

00:07:43
It's it's profound impact, man.

00:07:44
Yeah.

00:07:45
No.

00:07:45
I I I fully agree with that.

00:07:47
One thing that I've approached that I think, you know, both of us being Nasam's obviously

00:07:52
certified trainer back in the day, even though we don't obviously train now.

00:07:57
But one of the big things that I was like, dude, I was a trainer.

00:08:01
I gotta get a trainer.

00:08:02
You know, I have a coach and nearly everything.

00:08:04
I have a coach.

00:08:04
I have a spiritual coach.

00:08:07
I have I have a kind of a quasi.

00:08:11
He's, like, a spiritual and life coach.

00:08:13
Yep.

00:08:13
And then I have for a business, I have a business coach.

00:08:18
And I have a trainer coach that programmatically programs my workouts.

00:08:23
Right?

00:08:23
I I don't go in.

00:08:24
I don't think of those.

00:08:25
Just because I wanted that off my plate.

00:08:27
So that's just a different approach.

00:08:29
I love your approach because you are the, you know, being intentional about being super

00:08:35
programmatic about how you're gonna be working out that week.

00:08:38
So you're super efficient.

00:08:40
I know myself and, like, breaking down workouts.

00:08:43
I'm like, I have a bunch of different things on my mind.

00:08:45
Yeah.

00:08:46
I'm like, you know what?

00:08:47
I'm gonna rely on somebody else to break that down for me.

00:08:50
And then another thing that I like is obviously community based.

00:08:54
So that's why I'm going into more of a CrossFit environment or I go into a kettlebell

00:09:00
environment.

00:09:00
So I switch mine up.

00:09:02
Yeah.

00:09:02
Minor minor are a little bit different where there's a little bit different extension of

00:09:06
hypertrophy amount of weight that I'm gonna be putting Right.

00:09:09
Where, what I love about kettlebells is kinetic movement, but then what I love about CrossFit

00:09:15
is just freaking raw weight.

00:09:16
Right?

00:09:16
Yeah.

00:09:16
Yeah.

00:09:16
Yeah.

00:09:17
So you go into a static, you know, doing some early stuff and then you go into a hit.

00:09:21
So I do enjoy both sides because they they operate my muscle groups differently.

00:09:25
Yeah.

00:09:26
But I would say that from a routine, is blocking it out and then knowing you.

00:09:34
Yeah.

00:09:34
Are you gonna be the guy that is gonna be super intentional about, like, maybe even meal

00:09:39
prepping and then work out and knowing your workout on a week to week basis.

00:09:43
Right.

00:09:43
Or you're like, oh, nope.

00:09:45
A trainer is better for me.

00:09:46
Right.

00:09:47
Right?

00:09:47
I was a trainer, and I realized I need a trainer.

00:09:50
Yeah.

00:09:50
Right?

00:09:50
That's just me.

00:09:51
Yeah.

00:09:51
And so it's a really understanding the cadence and how much flex you do have.

00:09:56
And so that's how I operate.

00:09:59
And it's really, really worked out for me where I know I'm getting the max that I can.

00:10:04
I'm living optimally.

00:10:05
I'm living full field.

00:10:07
Yeah.

00:10:08
Plugging that in again.

00:10:09
And then and then really having a strong cadence throughout my

00:10:12
week to week.

00:10:13
Yeah.

00:10:13
So I would say that those those two things is are really understanding.

00:10:18
You gotta block it out.

00:10:19
You gotta know when you're doing it.

00:10:20
Right.

00:10:21
And then the intentionality comes from, are you gonna be you gonna be programmatically?

00:10:26
Breaking it out where it's written down and you know what you're going into, or do you need

00:10:30
somebody else to do that for you?

00:10:32
Yeah.

00:10:32
And I think for for people listening, man, who are, like, maybe feeling like, hey.

00:10:35
I am kinda stuck in my my, like, whatever routine I've been doing.

00:10:40
What and even if it is something that's more, like, hit base, like a cross fade or, like, one

00:10:44
of those boot camp type workouts.

00:10:46
Mhmm.

00:10:46
Try something different.

00:10:47
Like, that's a challenge.

00:10:48
Right?

00:10:48
Like, I'm I'm gonna challenge everyone right now.

00:10:50
Like, go do something different.

00:10:51
And see what happens.

00:10:53
Right?

00:10:53
You if you're doing boot camp workouts for months on end and you're just like this high,

00:10:57
like, orange theory type stuff where you're just like this cardio rabbit, you know, just go

00:11:01
and go go and go lift.

00:11:03
Go take a month off from cardio, like, full cardio like that.

00:11:06
Maybe you can still walk and stuff, but, like, just go lift weights.

00:11:09
And pack muscle and see what happens to your body and see how you feel.

00:11:12
Try it out.

00:11:13
If you if it sucks and you hate it, alright.

00:11:15
Like, sorry.

00:11:16
Yeah.

00:11:16
But I doubt that's gonna happen.

00:11:18
And then vice versa, like, somebody who just lifts all the time and is stuck in a a simple

00:11:22
routine, go do more like, hit training type of stuff.

00:11:25
Right?

00:11:26
Like, test your body out.

00:11:27
Do different things.

00:11:27
Pick up a sport, man.

00:11:29
Like, I think that's, like, that that's undervalued, right, being able to have, like,

00:11:33
verse utility and and adaptability.

00:11:36
Right?

00:11:36
For sure.

00:11:37
Yeah.

00:11:37
That's one thing I've enjoyed about, like, golf.

00:11:39
I'm really passionate about golf.

00:11:41
I like it.

00:11:42
But that kinetic based movement, the muscle memory.

00:11:44
I think

00:11:44
you owe me money.

00:11:46
Oh, you still money.

00:11:46
From the last time we played.

00:11:47
We were I think we played dollar a hole when I was too

00:11:50
Oh, man.

00:11:51
Yeah.

00:11:51
You can buy me

00:11:52
a gotta run that bag.

00:11:53
You could get me something later.

00:11:57
Just remember that.

00:11:57
We've reconciled a dollar hole.

00:11:59
We never

00:11:59
We gotta, were you up too?

00:12:01
Dang, bro.

00:12:02
You were beat.

00:12:02
Number is yours up too.

00:12:03
Yeah.

00:12:03
I had the birdie on the first one.

00:12:05
Remember that part there?

00:12:06
You had a birdie?

00:12:07
Dude, I dropped that thing a foot from the hole.

00:12:09
Remember that hole 17, and we started on the back 9 for some reason?

00:12:13
I guess I forgot.

00:12:14
Yeah.

00:12:14
You did.

00:12:15
I intentionally forgot that That's okay.

00:12:19
People don't forget.

00:12:20
But golf is a big thing as far as kinetic movement.

00:12:24
A lot different than lifting some weight Yeah.

00:12:27
From muscle gain.

00:12:28
Right.

00:12:29
So it's it's it's cool, to really have that kinetic base environment and then realize,

00:12:36
like, where maybe kettlebells are a little bit, you can actually incorporate some resistance

00:12:43
band is also a coming a big thing Yeah.

00:12:45
And getting flexibility and approach of getting more inertia k.

00:12:49
In your golf swing.

00:12:50
So I'm actually curious.

00:12:51
Scottie Scheffler coming came out with something.

00:12:54
Where it's a lot of band movements, similar to, like, Tom Brady's TV 12 movement of using more

00:13:00
band work as far as extension and mobility.

00:13:03
So That that's something I I have been wanting to look into just a little bit more to put in

00:13:07
there for the, you know, the micro workouts.

00:13:09
Yeah.

00:13:09
But kettlebell Mark kettlebell, kinetic based movements are better, I would say, is a better

00:13:16
approach for, like, golf.

00:13:17
Yeah.

00:13:18
Because it, like, kind of prepares there's different stabilizing muscles that I'm using

00:13:23
Yeah.

00:13:23
That then translate a little bit easier when I go into the golf environment.

00:13:29
So I definitely enjoy that, but then the power piece is a little bit different because then

00:13:34
I'm creating inertia.

00:13:35
So then cross fit of intermixing those 2 things.

00:13:39
Yeah.

00:13:41
Really creates power, you know, behind what I'm doing.

00:13:45
Whereas, just strictly doing, kettlebell really probably wouldn't give me the the power Yeah.

00:13:50
That I'm looking for.

00:13:52
And then but my, you know, working with Wade.

00:13:55
It gives me a little bit more inertia, hitting the ball.

00:13:57
So I, yeah, I love the idea of incorporating some sort of sport because it it almost gives

00:14:03
the attractiveness of I'm I'm doing it for something.

00:14:06
Yeah.

00:14:06
For sure.

00:14:06
You're training for, like, a skill that, like, you wanna perform and maybe, like, you're

00:14:12
playing against someone, so you wanna win.

00:14:14
Right?

00:14:14
Like, that competition always kinda makes you work a little bit harder.

00:14:17
Mhmm.

00:14:17
I love that you you got into power there a little bit.

00:14:19
Let's you know, we're both trained with that with the Nasim model, the optimum performance

00:14:24
training model, the OPT, which I love it.

00:14:27
I think foundationally, for people, it makes so much sense.

00:14:31
For, like, for pretty much everyone, this is how you should tie it up because, bro, if

00:14:36
you've never trained, if you're untrained person.

00:14:38
You've never exercised or anything.

00:14:40
You don't just go into power working, power lifting.

00:14:43
You don't just take up crossfit.

00:14:45
Like, you don't just start doing Olympic lifting.

00:14:47
That's too much.

00:14:47
Yeah.

00:14:48
Buddy, you don't have the the movement patterns developed.

00:14:52
Right?

00:14:52
You maybe have deficiencies, maybe your your posture or, like, your your foundation is

00:14:58
unlevel, and you're gonna create, you know, imbalances, muscular imbalances, mood just,

00:15:05
like, faulty movement patterns, right, you gotta start with the base level.

00:15:08
So why don't we go through it real quick?

00:15:10
Like, for for people listening, because this is something that I base my training off of.

00:15:15
I'm obviously already at the level where I can power lift with good form and, like, I'm there.

00:15:19
Right?

00:15:19
So it's not like you have to do this multiple times.

00:15:22
Once you've once you've gone through the phases, and you've learned the skills necessary

00:15:26
to do the different levels of training, you're there.

00:15:28
Yeah.

00:15:29
And then you just have to practice it, right, to keep it up.

00:15:31
You might need to backtrack sometimes if you're feeling like something's off or you have an

00:15:35
injury, but it starts at that base level of, like, you have to have stabilization.

00:15:41
Right?

00:15:42
So most guys aren't gonna go to the gym and spend that hour that they have doing body

00:15:47
weight, like, balance type sizes.

00:15:50
Right?

00:15:50
Most people think that's not the it's not the flashy cool stuff where you're throwing up

00:15:53
weight in front of the girl in the mirror and, like, you feel good about yourself.

00:15:56
You know what I mean?

00:15:57
Like, you got your tight dry fit on, but, like, like, That's necessary, man.

00:16:01
So that's how you avoid injury, bro.

00:16:02
Like, if

00:16:02
you if you can't squat because your ankles invert in and your feet roll in and then your

00:16:08
knees bend in, And now you throw £250 on that squat bar, you're gonna hurt yourself.

00:16:13
Like, it's not if it's when.

00:16:14
When are you gonna do too much weight that that shitty movement pattern is not gonna be able to

00:16:19
hold it up.

00:16:20
You know what I mean?

00:16:21
The straw that broke the camel's back, that's how that story goes.

00:16:24
Right?

00:16:24
Yeah.

00:16:25
Do you have, like, enough weight?

00:16:26
At one point, I was just like, this isn't it?

00:16:28
Yeah.

00:16:28
Bye.

00:16:29
Right?

00:16:29
And you blow a disc or something.

00:16:30
So

00:16:31
For sure.

00:16:31
Stabilization is so important.

00:16:33
What do you do as far as so for me, I I, you know, I use some of the stuff that I have in my

00:16:39
office.

00:16:39
I got these these high level vibration platforms.

00:16:41
So I do single leg exercises on those.

00:16:44
I balance on that kind of stuff.

00:16:45
Physio balls, like the big yoga balls that people sit on, doing doing exercises with

00:16:50
those, like playing, or, you know, even push ups on there.

00:16:53
Mhmm.

00:16:55
Balance boards, all that kind of stuff, man.

00:16:56
There's obviously, like, tools you can use, but you really don't really just, like, like, one

00:17:00
leg is standing.

00:17:00
Standing on one leg.

00:17:01
Yeah.

00:17:01
That's what I was just about to say.

00:17:03
Huge.

00:17:03
I mean, try to stand on one leg and see where you're negos.

00:17:06
Right?

00:17:06
Most people are gonna A lot of people don't even do that walk backwards.

00:17:10
Right?

00:17:10
Walk backwards.

00:17:11
Yeah.

00:17:11
Yeah.

00:17:11
It's simply, you know, put a couple of disc underneath your feet and just, start squatting

00:17:18
with your own body weight.

00:17:20
Mhmm.

00:17:20
And a, in a more static position That's right.

00:17:23
But put yourself in a dynamic environment.

00:17:25
Right?

00:17:25
It's all about putting yourself in dynamic environments.

00:17:28
Mhmm.

00:17:28
Because the reality is even when you go in sport, Right?

00:17:30
You're setting your set stabilization is such a key tool in terms of you being able to that's

00:17:36
why I love basketball of, like, the left and the right.

00:17:39
Right?

00:17:40
And sometimes that happens in life, you know, where you need to catch yourself.

00:17:43
Yeah.

00:17:44
And so and then you're like, oh, man.

00:17:45
I tweak my knee.

00:17:46
So, like, are you prepared And that's what those the Boosu balls are huge in that of just

00:17:52
stepping on a Boosu.

00:17:53
Right?

00:17:54
And without any way, you can actually add weight.

00:17:56
I I would do, curls.

00:17:58
On a bosu ball, and then you can add weight.

00:18:01
But bosu balls would naturally you have to stabilize.

00:18:06
You have to use your lower extremity stabilizers.

00:18:09
And so that's a big way to just set a baseline of, like, how the kinetic and the understanding

00:18:16
of, like, how your body is gonna move

00:18:17
or

00:18:18
And at first, you're gonna be wobbly shit.

00:18:20
Right?

00:18:20
You're gonna be all over the place to, and need to figure this thing out.

00:18:24
But then over time, you're like, oh, man, I can can add a ten pound weight.

00:18:27
I can add a a 15, a 20 Yeah.

00:18:30
Yeah.

00:18:30
Of doing curls or even squats while you're doing that.

00:18:33
But I love the bossu ball even doing push ups on a bosu ball is huge.

00:18:37
Awesome.

00:18:37
Because it works stabilizer muscles with

00:18:39
the shoulders.

00:18:40
It's so strong, man.

00:18:41
Yeah.

00:18:41
Crazy.

00:18:42
So those are huge things, and really working out, but setting that clear baseline

00:18:48
Yep.

00:18:49
And stabilization before, then you work into, obviously, strength endurance.

00:18:54
Yeah.

00:18:54
That's it.

00:18:55
So that's stabilization's first level at the bottom of the pyramid.

00:18:58
Right?

00:18:58
It's like the base foundation.

00:19:00
Then we we step into.

00:19:01
And I like that.

00:19:02
You mentioned, like, sport because if you run, if you just are a runner or you even just,

00:19:07
like, squat, that's all you do.

00:19:08
You're in one plane of motion.

00:19:09
You're just sagittal playing forward, right, versus like basketball.

00:19:13
Now it's it's lateral movement, right, even, like, some, like, more, like, hybrid, like,

00:19:17
forward and lateral movement, right, which, like, if you don't do that, you should train in

00:19:20
that kind of stuff.

00:19:21
I'm not saying go start playing basketball if if you never played before, but, like, maybe,

00:19:25
right, see what your body can, like, handle in and try that new kind of thing out, that new

00:19:29
skill.

00:19:29
Well, a lot of people are playing pickleball.

00:19:31
Yeah.

00:19:31
That's awesome.

00:19:32
It's a big sport.

00:19:33
A lot of people are playing pickleball.

00:19:34
And a lot of these people, they're, like, getting into pickleball.

00:19:37
They never they've never they you know, they've they're like, oh, this is kinda cool, but I

00:19:42
also haven't worked out or done anything.

00:19:44
So, you

00:19:44
know, like, wow.

00:19:45
Kinda starter form.

00:19:46
Right?

00:19:47
Exactly.

00:19:47
Of getting in because there's a lot of left and right movement.

00:19:50
Right.

00:19:50
Associated that, I don't care if you're ready at the kitchen or you're back at the baseline.

00:19:54
Yeah.

00:19:54
You still it's tennis.

00:19:56
Yeah.

00:19:57
So then next level going up from the stabilization, right, if we're trying to do the

00:20:01
optimal performance training model, OPT, is strength endurance.

00:20:06
Mhmm.

00:20:06
Right?

00:20:06
And this I think, delineating the difference between strength endurance and strength.

00:20:10
Strength endurance is how long can I can my muscle lift of weight through movements, right,

00:20:16
for it's usually lighter weight, but, like, what is the endurance of that muscle?

00:20:21
Right?

00:20:21
Yeah.

00:20:21
So this looks more like training with lighter loads, Right?

00:20:25
Say say if you're if you're max bicep pro, you do 8 eight reps of, forty pound dumbbell,

00:20:31
dropping it down, doing, like, a £10 and doing you know, up to 50 reps.

00:20:36
Right?

00:20:36
So you're in a higher rep range in this phase.

00:20:39
25 to 50.

00:20:40
50 is pretty high, but 25 is a good base for that.

00:20:44
Right?

00:20:44
It's and endurance is so important, especially when training with legs for posture.

00:20:50
Right?

00:20:50
Essentially, that's what posture is.

00:20:52
Right?

00:20:52
I'm a chiropractor I get posture questions all the time.

00:20:54
People come to my office.

00:20:55
Why is my posture shittiest?

00:20:57
Well, so your muscles can't hold your body up for as long as they need to.

00:21:00
Right?

00:21:00
So then your posture goes, you wanna stand up like this, but then you start to feel pain

00:21:04
because your muscles are fatiguing, so they tell you to stop.

00:21:07
So then we end up hunched over, like, freaking quasimodo.

00:21:10
At our desk, keeping my chest.

00:21:12
But that's essentially what posture is, bro.

00:21:14
It's it's the endurance of your muscles to be able to hold your body up, right, against

00:21:18
gravity, holding your skeleton in a neutral position.

00:21:21
Mhmm.

00:21:21
So that's that's comes after stabilization.

00:21:24
You gotta have those intrinsic little neuromuscular stabilization patterns built in,

00:21:29
then you work on how long can your body push weight for an, a long period of time.

00:21:35
Right?

00:21:36
And then what's the next phase on top of that one?

00:21:38
It goes we go into hypertrophy training.

00:21:40
Right?

00:21:40
Like, how do we start to, like, build new muscle or, like, grow the muscle in size?

00:21:44
Hypertrophy, right, trophic changes is size.

00:21:47
Right?

00:21:47
So how do we grow that, the size of the muscle?

00:21:50
Which is what I think most people are going to the gym for.

00:21:52
Right, or, like, most guys that we're trying to we're kinda talking to here are looking to

00:21:57
build muscle, grow the muscle, look more jacked.

00:22:00
Right?

00:22:00
Yeah.

00:22:01
But you can neglect the other 2 phases.

00:22:03
You can just jump into that.

00:22:04
Right?

00:22:04
Looking Jack.

00:22:05
Yeah.

00:22:05
Just trying to look good with your shirt off, bro.

00:22:07
GTL, man.

00:22:08
Go whole awesome.

00:22:14
If you wanna hear your question answered live on the show, submit it to ask at fullfuel.com.

00:22:20
Check out the optimizers program where we build max muscle, improve longevity, and get guys

00:22:24
freaking shredded that they can crush it at life for as long as possible.

00:22:28
Live full field.

00:22:29
Lead the on limits, baby.

00:22:35
But GTL.

00:22:36
Do you have 10 laundry?

00:22:37
Yeah.

00:22:37
And so, you know, hypertrophy, other than just making you look good, has benefits as well.

00:22:42
Right?

00:22:42
Like, it was, it was thought for a long time that you didn't actually, like, gain new

00:22:46
muscle, but that's that's false.

00:22:48
Hyperplasia is when your body produces new muscle cells.

00:22:51
Which does happen in conjunction with hypertrophy training.

00:22:53
So over time, you can build more muscle and consequently grow that same muscle tissue,

00:22:58
right, make it more dense, fill it with more mitochondria, with more blood supply, more,

00:23:03
like, actual, like, like, amino acid structures that grow the size of that muscle.

00:23:08
Right?

00:23:08
Yeah.

00:23:09
So that's a big thing just piling on nutrition there.

00:23:11
Typically, if you're gonna be in a hypertrophy, you gotta aid muscle growth with a component

00:23:18
of, like, nutritional balance, which is, like, obviously, protein.

00:23:20
Ecoprotein.

00:23:21
Adequate protein, adequate amino acids.

00:23:24
Really accelerate carbohydrates as well.

00:23:26
Yeah.

00:23:26
For sure without a doubt, being well rounded in that, but you gotta pack on, cooler

00:23:31
consumption, right, in order to create muscular density.

00:23:34
Right.

00:23:35
In terms of, like, strength endurance, what is so what is the difference you were see you were

00:23:41
building on to that, but what is the difference we to do.

00:23:43
So strength endurance is something that you can do almost, like, max effort at, right, so give

00:23:51
an example of something that's strength endurance versus an element of hypertrophy

00:23:56
before we go into obviously, the 5th pillar being maximum strength, the power.

00:24:00
Yeah.

00:24:01
So strength endurance again is, like, your body being able to do, a repeated motion for a long

00:24:07
period of time.

00:24:08
So I mean, this could look like sport.

00:24:09
Right?

00:24:10
Like like basketball or, like, you have to jump and you're jumping.

00:24:13
That's using a lot of muscles in the body.

00:24:15
That's a a type 2 muscle activation, fast twitch to propel you up.

00:24:19
Like, how how many times can you do that?

00:24:21
Or, like

00:24:22
and over and over

00:24:23
and over.

00:24:23
Right.

00:24:23
Or, like, box jumps or, like, bodyweight squats.

00:24:25
Right?

00:24:26
Something that's not that much of a load that you can only push it once or twice.

00:24:30
Right?

00:24:30
That's max strength which is the next level after hypertrophy.

00:24:34
Max strength is how heavy of a load can I push for a max effort?

00:24:39
Right, that one RM kind of, ideology, strength endurance is the opposite of that.

00:24:44
It's like, how how long can I do this lighter load, like, how much endurance can I put that

00:24:51
for?

00:24:51
Right?

00:24:52
So that's the difference.

00:24:53
But you gotta have that as a base foundation before you start pushing max strength, you're

00:24:57
gonna get Right?

00:24:58
So it it all sets the stage.

00:24:59
I love the the build up.

00:25:01
Right?

00:25:01
Yeah.

00:25:01
And so hypertrophy is making sure you have enough muscle on your skeleton to support that

00:25:06
max load that you're about to push.

00:25:07
Right?

00:25:07
So that's why hypertrophy comes before max strength.

00:25:10
Huge.

00:25:10
Because if if hypertrophy was was after max strength, you'd be going to lift all this heavy

00:25:14
weight.

00:25:14
You don't have adequate muscle on your body.

00:25:16
You're gonna get hurt.

00:25:17
Right?

00:25:17
So it all comes down to, like, how do we how do we build muscle and and get that optimal

00:25:22
performance without getting hurt?

00:25:23
So once you get hurt managed, fucks everything up.

00:25:25
And Well,

00:25:25
and it's also one of those things where because I've seen there was this one guy at our

00:25:30
CrossFit gym in in insane.

00:25:32
But he was his fundamentals were so good.

00:25:36
Right?

00:25:37
He defied the odds of, like, muscular strength Like, he didn't need the weight Yeah.

00:25:43
To put up an insane amount of weight.

00:25:45
Yeah.

00:25:46
Because he was number 1.

00:25:48
Like, he had every ounce of his body was stabilized.

00:25:51
And then the kinetic movement from floor to shelf was was impeccable.

00:25:57
Right?

00:25:58
Yeah.

00:25:58
And so when you can get that good, that's a completely different story.

00:26:01
Yeah.

00:26:01
But, like, usually, you're gonna need those are slightly slight anomalies because usually when

00:26:06
you're gonna need

00:26:07
these

00:26:07
outliers, for sure, But

00:26:09
he didn't start like that.

00:26:10
He did not start

00:26:10
like that, but he that foundation.

00:26:13
Absolutely.

00:26:13
And it was that kinetic based movement

00:26:15
Right.

00:26:16
That allowed him to to grow.

00:26:18
I mean, he was a muscular guy.

00:26:19
Don't get me wrong, but he wasn't like so

00:26:21
many things that gave him a little advantage for him.

00:26:24
Yeah.

00:26:24
Yeah.

00:26:24
Right.

00:26:25
But it it was fundamentals.

00:26:26
You know,

00:26:26
if you're good that good, that's what I love about CrossFit.

00:26:29
Yeah.

00:26:29
Is if you're that good at the fundamentals, you actually, man, you can rack up some weight.

00:26:35
There were some dudes racking up some weight, but they were so good floor to shelf, like, as

00:26:39
I was saying, that I'm like, dude, that is really solid.

00:26:45
But anyways, going into going into maximum strength now.

00:26:51
Maximum strength.

00:26:53
So what that looks like?

00:26:54
Yeah.

00:26:54
So maximum strength is being able to push the most amount of weight for about 5 repetitions.

00:27:00
Right?

00:27:00
5 is kind of the the most you will do when your max strength training.

00:27:03
Like, the typical 5 by 5, right, throw a bunch of weight on there and and you by that last

00:27:08
set, you're feeling it.

00:27:09
I mean, you're you're pushing your body to a limit.

00:27:12
Right?

00:27:12
So this definitely is not for beginners.

00:27:14
This isn't for somebody just walking into the gym off the couch, you wanna have those

00:27:18
foundations stabilization, strength endurance, hypertrophy, build, enough muscle, and then

00:27:23
start pushing max strength.

00:27:24
And this is where you're gonna really start to, like, actually, like, pack, like, dense, like,

00:27:29
lean looking muscle.

00:27:30
Right?

00:27:31
A lot of people push hypertrophy, And you you end up looking maybe a little puffy because you

00:27:35
still got some body fat on you, and and it's not as, like, that striated muscle look.

00:27:39
When you start being able to push, like, strength and and train that man, you can build

00:27:44
some dense heavy muscle.

00:27:45
And this is where people often gain a lot of muscle and gain gain some weight too.

00:27:49
Yeah.

00:27:49
This is the sweet spot.

00:27:50
So, like, when you're going in and you're hitting, you know, you feel really, really good

00:27:56
at the different foundation.

00:27:57
So I'll just review real quick stabilization, strength, endurance, hypertrophy and then going

00:28:03
into maximum strength.

00:28:05
This is that sweet spot that you wanna stay in for an elongated period of time.

00:28:09
Yeah.

00:28:09
Because you might never have to go to power.

00:28:11
You could stay at max strength, honestly.

00:28:13
That's right.

00:28:13
Yeah.

00:28:14
That's right.

00:28:14
Because when you're testing so, like, power is more defining the limits of what you expected.

00:28:19
Right?

00:28:19
Those are what they call PR.

00:28:20
Right.

00:28:21
Yeah.

00:28:21
Or performance based.

00:28:22
Right.

00:28:23
Hey.

00:28:23
I really wanna I wanna set a new threshold here.

00:28:26
Mhmm.

00:28:26
In terms of where I'm at, but maximum strength is really that sweet spot of, hey.

00:28:32
I I really wanna continually getting stronger.

00:28:32
I wanna create the discipline of, just continually Yeah.

00:28:40
Working up and building on new muscle, but that power is really your setting new red lines.

00:28:46
Right.

00:28:47
Yeah.

00:28:47
And you're you're you're getting even, you know, obviously, even stronger.

00:28:53
And it's cool to do, but I wanna target the difference between maximum strength and power

00:28:58
because of how Olympians they'll go, like, they'll go 2 years without hitting a new PR.

00:29:07
Yeah.

00:29:07
Because they'll stay in that maximum strength area.

00:29:10
Building a foundation, a nice strong base.

00:29:12
Yeah.

00:29:13
And then maybe a year out, 6 months out, maybe even closer to, they're hitting new PRs.

00:29:20
Yep.

00:29:21
They might I don't know.

00:29:22
I I believe somebody I was, well, following hit like a PR, like, the week before the day of,

00:29:27
just to hold themselves to that standard knowing

00:29:31
that there's Like, I know I can do this shit.

00:29:33
Yeah.

00:29:34
But they wanted to push it out further and further and further.

00:29:37
Leading up to where they were gonna be.

00:29:39
It wasn't like you're trying to get PRs every other month.

00:29:42
Right?

00:29:42
Right.

00:29:42
Right.

00:29:43
I think that's when your body starts working against itself.

00:29:47
So there's a fine line between maximum strength and power that you really have to work you have

00:29:53
to be really, really in tune with your body.

00:29:55
Yeah.

00:29:55
So power building on top of max strength then, right, you want that max strength base.

00:29:58
So now you can lift heavier weights for that.

00:30:01
Power, you're obviously gonna dial it back.

00:30:02
You're not gonna be one r m ing, freaking overhead as much.

00:30:06
Right?

00:30:06
Like, that's that's pretty intense.

00:30:08
Like, maybe do that every now.

00:30:09
And then you gotta dial the weight back a little bit because you're gonna do a little bit

00:30:12
more repetition.

00:30:12
You're gonna probably go for, like, 7, maybe 3 to 7.

00:30:16
Right?

00:30:17
So it but you're you're speeding up the lift.

00:30:21
Right?

00:30:21
So power is how fast can I push this heavy weight now through a range of motion?

00:30:25
How quickly can I move something heavy?

00:30:28
Right?

00:30:28
So it's it this is probably the most risky, probably the most opportunity for injury.

00:30:33
Right?

00:30:33
Like, if you fail to lift or something like that, So that's why you wanna have that

00:30:37
foundation, man.

00:30:37
Like, you don't wanna just start, like, like, we talked about the very beginning.

00:30:40
You don't wanna just start doing, like, heavy power lifts, right, because if you don't have

00:30:44
everything else in, you're gonna yourself.

00:30:46
Right.

00:30:46
But the difference is really that, like, max strength is gonna build dense muscle tissue

00:30:50
power is more so gonna improve your performance of a lift.

00:30:54
Right?

00:30:54
For sure.

00:30:55
Like I said, not not not everybody even has to get there.

00:30:57
Right?

00:30:58
Like, if you don't if you if that's not your goal to be able to lift something like that,

00:31:02
then you you don't even need to.

00:31:04
Right?

00:31:04
You can stick to that strength level.

00:31:06
You can bounce back and forth between max strength and hypertrophy, even doing more

00:31:10
endurance stuff.

00:31:11
And I think that's a great way to train, I think, to do, like, a month of max strength

00:31:15
training, right, like, or even 2 days a week I'm doing max strength type training.

00:31:19
And then one day a week, I'm doing more endurance type training, keeping it kind of

00:31:23
like, like, varied so that your body's always building on those those foundational blocks.

00:31:28
Yeah.

00:31:28
Not what you're saying

00:31:29
because your body's so smart and do what you can do is kind of create trigger points

00:31:33
Right.

00:31:33
And throwing it off a little bit.

00:31:35
Yeah.

00:31:35
That's what I love about just having a better understanding and being in tune with yourself

00:31:39
where you're, like, heading your heart aligned.

00:31:41
I feel like a little bit where you're, like, heading your body aligned.

00:31:44
Where you have an understanding of little, the kinetic movements within your body.

00:31:48
Mhmm.

00:31:48
Like, I'm gonna trick it out a little bit, here and then and then do this.

00:31:52
So think it's important.

00:31:53
Do you wanna I think we here get a question from the audience.

00:31:56
Yeah.

00:31:57
Yeah.

00:31:57
That's a good racket.

00:31:57
Respond to that.

00:31:58
Yeah.

00:31:59
Yeah.

00:31:59
So It's my first time in the gym after a long time.

00:32:03
I have a little bit of knowledge.

00:32:04
Where should I start?

00:32:07
A little bit of style and knowledge where you start.

00:32:09
Think you hit on it, bro.

00:32:10
Like, I I would say, like, get a trainer.

00:32:12
Right?

00:32:12
Like, I I don't I think a lot of people are maybe, like, if it's financially, you a 100%

00:32:17
can't do it because you're scraping, like, I get it, but, like, if you have the money man,

00:32:21
like, just get a trainer for a month or 2 and, like, learn the base knowledge stuff, because,

00:32:25
again, or else you're gonna fall into that, like, I'm just doing the same thing.

00:32:29
Like, like, the like they ask, I have a little bit of knowledge like, how far is that gonna

00:32:33
take you?

00:32:34
Are you gonna be able to level that up?

00:32:35
You know what I mean?

00:32:36
Yeah.

00:32:36
So finding, like, a qualified trainer, someone like you who who knows the bases and can, like,

00:32:41
I either push you or teach you new things.

00:32:44
And, you know, some people will have a trainer for a month, then they'll work on whatever they

00:32:49
just learn for a few they'll get a trainer again, right, and they kinda bounce back and

00:32:52
forth.

00:32:52
They, like, do some on their own, work with the trainer once a month, stuff like that.

00:32:56
But I think like, seeking out knowledge, man, right, or or research, right, or do the the

00:33:02
work yourself and, like, becoming a trainer's, like, you know, a cool thing to do too.

00:33:07
Like, you don't have to use it to train people, but, like, you will gain so much knowledge for

00:33:11
yourself from that.

00:33:12
It's almost it's worth it.

00:33:13
Right?

00:33:13
Yeah.

00:33:13
I think, you know, for me, it's just that, you know, and who we're probably speaking to in

00:33:18
terms of, like, the audience of time.

00:33:22
And I always wanna rely on people that have, the time really to give me.

00:33:27
So I would say an answer to that is get somebody that already has the knowledge in

00:33:32
place to create those shortcuts.

00:33:34
Especially if somebody can aid me in from a nutritional standpoint Yeah.

00:33:38
As well as a physical standpoint where I can blend those 2 things two two things together

00:33:43
because that's just gonna be a road map for success.

00:33:46
So, really, I would I would really try to get that on to 1, get a trainer that knows

00:33:50
nutrition, and training as well.

00:33:52
Yeah.

00:33:52
And where you can incorporate that.

00:33:54
And, man, like, things will be a lot faster.

00:33:56
That's what I did.

00:33:57
Yeah.

00:33:57
And I was like, man, I did not know nutrition what played this much of an impact and really

00:34:03
understanding that and being guided along the way.

00:34:05
Right.

00:34:06
Really created a shortcut for me.

00:34:08
And then allowed me to create really clean, lean muscle mass

00:34:14
Yeah.

00:34:14
And and a relatively short period of time.

00:34:16
Yeah.

00:34:16
Because if time is your limiter, it's a great point.

00:34:18
Right?

00:34:18
Like, if time is a thing, like, I only have the hour.

00:34:21
I have 1 hour, then I gotta get home.

00:34:22
I got kids.

00:34:23
I got a dish and blah blah blah.

00:34:24
Make it efficient, man, like, like, paying someone to help you, right, or else you're

00:34:28
gonna have to spend part of that hour creating a workout, right, or that's coming out of the

00:34:32
other part of the day.

00:34:32
Right?

00:34:33
Timing out the workout, what exercise I'm gonna do and, like, maybe make structuring it, doing

00:34:36
all that, when that's not even you don't even have that training.

00:34:39
Yeah.

00:34:39
Somebody out there is really good at that.

00:34:42
Right?

00:34:42
Same way you pay someone to do your car.

00:34:44
Same thing.

00:34:45
I'm not gonna do I don't know shit about cars, bro.

00:34:46
I'm gonna go start taking stuff out of my car.

00:34:48
I'm gonna play.

00:34:49
Like, I'm gonna pay someone to do it.

00:34:51
Who knows what they're

00:34:51
always always go with the shortcut.

00:34:53
Yeah.

00:34:53
Somebody else's interest.

00:34:54
If you're not super passionate about it, I would be like, but I wanna get myself in really

00:34:59
good shape.

00:35:00
Yeah.

00:35:01
Somebody somebody has that knowledge.

00:35:02
And the level down from that is there's these online training people, right, like, or

00:35:05
protocol.

00:35:06
You can pay, like, 10 bucks for some, like, workout.

00:35:08
Right?

00:35:08
Like Yeah.

00:35:09
And just, like, start with that.

00:35:10
Then as you get better and you wanna learn more, learn more.

00:35:13
I think keep learning.

00:35:14
Like, that's probably a good answer to that question too.

00:35:16
Keep learning.

00:35:16
Keep learning.

00:35:17
Alright.

00:35:17
Like, learn more stuff.

00:35:19
So that's, that's what we got based on movement.

00:35:22
See, you know, number 2, we're gonna be going in and we're gonna be setting new disciplines

00:35:27
in terms of what movement looks like.

00:35:30
And what are we gonna be talking about in the kind of the 3rd layer of movement?

00:35:35
What is that?

00:35:36
Did we talk through that one yet?

00:35:38
And then in this episode?

00:35:40
Yeah.

00:35:40
I don't know if we came up with that, man.

00:35:42
We could we could we

00:35:43
could probably cut that one, but Well, episode number 3 of Movement, we'll go into, Maybe

00:35:56
we'll bring out a guest.

00:35:57
Yeah.

00:35:57
That would be great.

00:35:58
I'd I'd love to bring on someone who can speak more on to what we just talked about, like,

00:36:02
wire trainer and the importance of it.

00:36:04
Right?

00:36:05
Yeah.

00:36:05
I think that's the that's when may maybe even community the community aspect, which is, like,

00:36:10
where I thrive in is knowing somebody, like, they're they're even though they're counting on

00:36:16
me, but they're not counting on me.

00:36:17
Yeah.

00:36:17
Right?

00:36:18
I was talking to a guy the other day, then I was coaching, that like, what gets him to get

00:36:22
up in the morning is that they're still, like, counting on me.

00:36:25
Right?

00:36:25
Yeah.

00:36:25
If you don't show up, you're gonna hear about it.

00:36:27
Yeah.

00:36:27
You're you're

00:36:27
gonna hear about it.

00:36:28
So it's one of those things, and we'll we'll incorporate that in.

00:36:31
So Cool.

00:36:32
Into the design of our next one, we'll bring on somebody.

00:36:35
So, cool.

00:36:36
That's what we got.

00:36:37
Episode number 3, a movement, live full

00:36:40
fuel, live it full fuel.