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You know, big on the eightytwenty rule too.
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Hey, like, go hard during the week.
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And then on the weekend, you know?
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Well, I have a burger or whatever.
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Kind of that the happiness aspect of it is thick, you know, maybe something's not the
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healthy but like if you find a lot of enjoyment and maybe you're having a you're going out to
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eat with people and you're having really good fulfilling conversations and stuff like that.
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That helped benefit by far outweighs, you know, maybe everybody having to detox a little it
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from it.
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You know, you're getting a, like, a very high net positive.
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So it's like, I always think of things as positive or negative, like, collectively
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together.
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That's you.
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I think a lot of people don't really do that.
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They're just like black and white, yes or no, but it's like, no, you have to look at the
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situation.
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Welcome to the Full Field podcast.
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With your host, Matt Tack.
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Doctor Alfred Lessi.
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What's going on, bro?
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What's going on, man?
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Good to be here, man.
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I'm I'm so excited about this.
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We have a guest today, man.
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We got one.
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We got another one.
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Got the streets.
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You know?
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Oh, man.
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Well, I
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was trying to go to work.
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On the
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streets at a blue suit
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coat, bro.
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He has a good Lily's Daffer.
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I'm hearing joggers in t shirt, but
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today, man, works out.
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We have Doctor Jordan Ax on the show.
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Doctor X is the founder of Ax Holistic Medicine here Tampa, Florida.
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He graduated with a bachelor's degree from Excelsior College, and then you went on to get
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your chiropractic, your doctor of chiropractic degree from life university.
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And then now you run multiple practices here in the Tampa area.
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You love to adventure.
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You love to travel.
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How you doing, man?
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Good to have you.
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Yeah, dude.
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Thanks for having me here.
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Of
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course, bro.
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Yeah, man.
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You know, life, life's an adventure and, you know, I'm big on being on purpose and doing
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things you love and some I've been thinking a lot, you know, on that on that health journey
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is just how important it is to have joy and fulfillment and things like that.
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So you guys got back trip at a five thousand meter mountain is one of the things on my
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bucket list.
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Yeah.
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Out in the coffee region in Columbia.
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It was just
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It looked cold.
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Beautiful.
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It was cold.
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My hands are my hands are still cold.
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But, yeah, it was really enjoyable.
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You know, I love to get out in nature.
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I really love building things.
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So I was in engineering, actually, before chiropractic.
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Okay.
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So I got really intrigued on how to fix the body.
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You know, we're we're very mechanical and with, you know, chiropractic, you know, structurally
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scoliosis posture.
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Right.
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Which then kinda lead me more into functional medicine where You really gotta be a detective.
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Like, how does the body operate?
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How can we tweak this to get this to work?
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Right.
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Optimize.
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One of the things people are, you know, a lot of doctors are missing now.
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It's like they're falling a book, a detective would make a better doctor than a doctor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, that's just the way you gotta think.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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That's that's what gives me joy and fulfillment too is always having a new challenge.
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A lot of people think, well, I just wanna get to here and then I and then I made it.
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Well, the people that make it to their end are really depressed.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It's about that kind of that continual growth and learning and education and going on new
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trips, travel.
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You know, that's huge.
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What I think is
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Tell us about your story.
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I'm so intrigued because I I didn't know that, but so you're an engineer?
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Yep.
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Went over to medicine.
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What what created that shift?
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What was the story?
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What was the narrative?
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Yeah.
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So I was in Nashville, in engineering.
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I was working at my brother's office.
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Okay.
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You know, I shadowed an engineer, and he's, like, in a cubicle, like, on a computer.
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And then, like, I saw my brother, he's, you know, doing talks.
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And he's like, with patients, making a huge difference.
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And, you know, talking to him, I was like, well, even in chiropractic, there's a lot of
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engineering techniques where you're structurally working in the body.
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You could go into nutrition.
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Could just have doctor run your name and do podcasts all day.
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Like, you know, you could you could there's places to go besides sitting in a cubicle
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drawing up drawings all day.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I love to build stuff, but, you know, to me, that was a a better career path.
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Awesome, man.
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And if I'm not if I'm not mistaken, it was kinda your own health story that maybe kinda
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led into that.
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Right?
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You had
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some issues and as a as
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a kid, with some some allergic kinda stuff that was going on.
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Tell us some about that, man, how that, like, sparked your your purpose in your
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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That was kind of the the turning point.
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You know, I had a lot of health issues at the time, chronic sinus infections, just tired, not
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sleeping well, kind of some mood issues, just got worse.
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And what really did is when I got really bad eczema.
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Okay.
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You know, I'm taking putting the steroid creams on.
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They're giving me antibiotics.
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Then that's when my brother's like, hey, go to a functional medicine doctor.
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So he found me a good place.
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And 9 months later, you know, I did a stool test, which is the biggest thing that they did
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for me.
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Found all my markers that were off, like, 90 day protocol of getting the bad stuff out,
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getting the good stuff in.
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Right?
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They found out that had an autoimmune disease just in the process of doing the testing and,
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pretty much 9 months of, you know, diet changes, different testing and fixing those
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markers.
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Yeah.
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And this is stuff, you know, I'd been to derm tons of dermatologists, different doctors.
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I remember the dermatologist, you know, with the eczema thing, like, Hey, does my mom's
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like, hey, does, you know, anything he's eating have anything to do with this?
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Nope.
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That has nothing to do with this.
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In.
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Totally separate issues.
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Yeah.
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That was like I was a kid.
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I'm like, this guy's lying.
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Yeah.
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I'm not even that smart.
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And I know this was a lot.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, and that's when, you know, I knew there had to be, but anyways, just going through that
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9 months, like my whole health was autoimmune disease went away.
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Exema went away.
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My skin cleared up.
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Nice.
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And I was like, that wasn't that easy, but it really wasn't hard.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I was like, I wanna start doing that, you know, doing something with my life where I can make
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that same impact on other people.
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That's awesome, man.
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What was the autoimmune condition if you don't mind
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me asking?
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Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
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Funny me.
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Like, I had the same thing.
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Right?
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So I was already a chiropractor at the time.
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Yeah.
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But I was working 50 hours you know, adjusting all day long.
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I was a treating doc.
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My kids were just born, so I had infant twins at home.
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And I went through this, like, stressful state that I think was, like, kind of the the the
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barrel overflowing, if you know, that kind of set that off.
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Yeah.
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Started feeling crazy fatigue, you know, the listeners kinda know that are at the story, but
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I ran some blood work on myself too.
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And the doc that I was working for at the time was a function doctor.
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So we ran labs.
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She'd kinda show me what was going on.
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And then I was able to discover that it was really like a leaky gut thing.
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You know?
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And so, like, you you take a Hashimoto's thing and you go to just a thyroid doctor and
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endocrinologist, they're just gonna give you a bunch of T3 and and medicine to, like, Yep.
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Keep your symptoms at bay, if you will, but they're not gonna look into the gut.
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They a lot of them don't even know that connection.
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Right?
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I'll go.
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You're gonna see a GI doctor if you have a GI year.
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Right?
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And then you're hopping around from dock to dock.
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Right?
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You know, he's really addressing the root cause.
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So I think that's a lot of what you do.
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I mean, your practice has roots in the logo.
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Like, so We used
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to be called the root cause clinic.
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We get to the root cause, changed our name, but, yeah, that was the whole premise.
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Right.
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Right.
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Figure out what's
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I think that happens all the time too.
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You know, I mean, like, when you're focused on health, but if you're so deep into the weeds, I
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feel like it happens to a lot of doctors as well.
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You know, they have good intentions for other people, but they're like inward focus.
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That's what I actually appreciated by you as I was.
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Doing some research is that you focus on that fitness side as well.
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Hey.
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I gotta I gotta make sure I'm modeling that to my, like, students at the end of that I'm
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bringing into my clinic.
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How is that, like, what what narrative changed like there for you?
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Have you always been healthy kind of like in from a fitness effective.
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Yeah.
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You know, basketball, golf.
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You know, I played a lot of sports and stuff like that.
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So, you know, I've always been into to fitness.
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I'm not a big gym guy.
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Like, to me, it's like, oh, I gotta go to the gym.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, some people love it.
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You know,
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it's kinda their outlet, but, like, you know, that's why, hiking, get outside, basketball.
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Like, I wanna be that's why I live in Florida.
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Yeah.
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I wanna work out outside.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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It sounds like a little bit more natural to me.
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And, yeah, I think exercise for a lot of people is a hard part, but I'm like, hey, find
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something that you love outside, whether it's yoga or basketball or whatever, you know, make
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it Valley beach volleyball.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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You
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know, make it fun.
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I think that's that's a big part of it.
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Yeah.
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It's huge.
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I was watching a real, that you were like, I'm so like this too, but I was watching your real
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where you're like, dude, just find stuff in your backyard that you physically can work out
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and pick it up and work out.
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And they're like, literally, you could use anything.
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And, like, that's so true.
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You can use your body weight.
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You can find, literally, you can find, like, rocks on a bee.
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Like Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And anything that's added resistance can be like a tool to create, you know, some sort of
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aesthetic that you can you can promote, like, end of an exercise environment where burning
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yourself out of maybe a little bit, but I love that because I, like, I always look for that.
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Like, what can I do in the water?
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Like, real quick at the beach too.
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To just, like, have fitness.
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And there's a quick routine that I can get on the next thing.
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So it's cool.
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Yeah.
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I just, you know, go going by a meal mindset, you know, that's one of your big pillars, which
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I absolutely love.
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But, you know, whether it's fitness or health or whatever, you know, people over complicate
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things.
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It's like if you really want something, you'll just find a way.
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Oh, well, I don't have time to go to the gym.
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Facebook marketplace is out of weights.
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I don't know.
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It's like you're just you'll figure if you really want something, just don't make it
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complicated.
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Just
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just look around you and you can you can always find a solution, especially when it comes to
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health.
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Like, I wish people would really start to push try to be a little bit more resourceful.
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And no need to work out.
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Well, yeah, just, hey, you got a 10 minute break at work.
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Go do a wall.
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It for 10 minutes.
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You'll be sweating your butt off at the end of it.
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Yeah.
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And you got a great workout.
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Right.
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Like, that wasn't that hard, you know,
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So I
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think with health, we over complicate it sometimes, and we really people get in their
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own way.
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That's one thing I love doing with patients too.
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It's like, hey, well, how about we do this?
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Oh, Yeah.
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Easy.
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How we do this?
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, that's kinda mindset part.
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Yeah.
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And, like, I think, like you said, overcomplicating it, and then that leads to,
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like, not doing anything.
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Like, they're like, well,
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I can't do 3 days a week.
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This many sets, this many reps at the gym, blah blah blah.
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So I'm just not gonna do anything.
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Like, well, that's not the best answer either.
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It's like figure something out.
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Go for a walk, man.
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Like, as long as you're moving your body, right, and people don't understand too that,
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like, doing certain, like, chores or projects can be physical activity.
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Right?
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You're outside.
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You're building something.
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You're putting, you know, stuff together for your kids.
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Like, use it as a physical activity.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, we talked a little bit about kind of the the approach that you take.
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Right?
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Obviously, getting to the root cause of somebody's health issues.
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Tell me, man, what are, like, some of the biggest things that you help people with in
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your in your practice or or that you address?
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I think gut health is Yeah.
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Gut health.
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All the huge ones.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I would say just like, you know, cause I had an autoimmune disease thyroid issue, but, you
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know, COVID and everything that's happened.
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So many gut issues now think autoimmune.
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There's just a giant population of people that the doctors came and diagnosed them.
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Like, the doctors, like, literally, like, we don't really know.
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We not even gonna diagnose you.
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It's like, I think a lot of that's just autoimmune issues.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It's manifesting in
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your immune system can react in a 1 different ways.
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Mhmm.
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You know,
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the doctors came to come up with a 1 different words.
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So it's like and that's why I'm you know, I I I did put, like, webinar together.
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Like, you know, what I did, I feel like for immune, right, you got your the gut.
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That's where the immune system lives.
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You gotta address that.
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Yeah.
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The other two legs, deficiency tucked ecity.
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Mhmm.
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If you have a toxin that's not your body, your immune systems get react.
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Right.
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And
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that's, like, the second immune Right?
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And if you're deficient, your immune system doesn't have what it needs, we all know if
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you're sick, take vitamin c, it's gonna help your immune system.
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So obviously, if you don't have enough of that kind of stuff
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Yeah.
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That can cause an issue.
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And then the 4th leg, I'd like to look at infections.
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Okay.
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Well, what is your immune system goal?
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Well, just to kill things that are not your body.
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So if you have hidden infections, If you're looking, no, I got tested.
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I don't have any infections.
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I'm not, you know, I'm like, well, we all have candida.
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If you're Contita, gets a little bit high.
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You technically don't have an infection, but your immune system is attacking like you do.
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Yeah.
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That balance is all.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right?
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Or viruses kind of overgrow in your system.
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Hey, you don't have the flu.
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You don't have COVID, but the viruses are like, half of us at as if you did.
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Right.
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That's upregulating your immune system, triggering autoimmune, that's taking energy
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from your body, making you tired.
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I would say autoimmune, I think, is the big thing, especially Americans are struggling with
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that are causing issues.
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And those are the 4 things I really like to look at with patients.
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Yeah.
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For most patients, it's all 4.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's a common.
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Yeah.
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I think that the other big problem is, you know, everyone wants a magic bowl the diagnose
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me with something.
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What what what do I have?
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And what's the one problem?
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No.
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You have a 100 problems.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And, You got a lot of problems.
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You know, this yeah.
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This one problem is causing 20% of your issues.
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This problem is causing 5% of your issues.
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This problem is causing 1% of your issue, right, or Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So let's categorize and let's go after the big ones first.
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Most important.
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And that might resolve a lot of your issues.
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I think that's the other big problem is people don't realize, well, you gotta fix 20% percent,
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10%.
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Yeah.
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And then maybe you can trigger your health where you want it to go.
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But you gotta put your head down.
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A lot of people do one thing.
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Oh, that didn't work.
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Yeah.
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No.
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It's It's not that it didn't work.
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Right?
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It's like hiking.
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It's like, oh, I took two steps.
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I didn't make it there.
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Well, no.
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You got you were doing the right thing.
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You just have a lot.
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You gotta do it.
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You just gotta keep going.
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Right.
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You gotta take couple turns and then you'll
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get there.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I think that how how do you go about because this is one thing I think you had mentioned.
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You're like, the the one of the major hurdles with anyone is mindset, right, because it's
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like the direction of that, you were talking about energy.
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All the energy is going after the autoimmune.
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Yeah.
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And so, like, then, how is the mindset created?
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So, like, when you sit with a patient, And you're like, man, you have you have a lot of
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problems.
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Yeah.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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And they're like, oh my gosh.
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What do I do?
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Then it becomes, alright, how do you tap into that mindset early on to like, hey, you know,
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we we gotta get momentum going first.
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But, like, what is maybe some of the conversations that you have with, like, a
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client that comes in to, like, alright, we're gonna work on the mindset first.
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Or is even that a thing with you?
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Yeah.
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That's
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the best place to start.
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I wouldn't say always start there.
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Okay.
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You know, but I just try to find the biggest thing that's gonna get someone feeling better
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right away.
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Okay.
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I think hormones and stuff are important.
00:14:28
I don't a lot of times, it's not a root cause issue, but, hey, If I can do some in-depth
00:14:32
testing
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Mhmm.
00:14:34
Hey.
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You got overgrowth in your gut.
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Let's take some herbs, knock that down.
00:14:38
Hey.
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These two hormones are tanked.
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Let's give you some herbs and supplements to boost those up.
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Now that might get someone feeling a lot better pretty quickly.
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Yeah.
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Now they get some momentum now.
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They're more a little ready to have that mental conversation.
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You know, like, so you got I just getting someone feeling better and giving them some
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hope at the beginning is the most important thing so you can get some momentum Yeah.
00:15:01
Intact, hey, reducing stress in your life and fixing your marriage and all, you know, it's
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like, hey, maybe that's a root cause issue, but sometimes people don't have it in them quite
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yet to do that.
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Yeah.
00:15:12
I love that, man.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So quick ones.
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Got it.
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Yeah.
00:15:16
It's good.
00:15:17
Yeah.
00:15:17
Get them feel good.
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And then they maybe there's more buy in.
00:15:19
Right?
00:15:19
Now they're like, wow, like, nothing I can do versus that maybe that it's a little bleak
00:15:23
outlook at the moment when I've been filling my craft for years, you
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know.
00:15:26
Yep.
00:15:26
It's like I said, the order's important, but getting people moving for, you know, feeling
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better moving versus the most important thing.
00:15:32
Yeah.
00:15:32
So, you know, patient walks in the door, they're there for a consultation to figure out
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whatever their health ailment is.
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Where do you start?
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Obviously, you're gonna listen to the patient and and get from them their history.
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Mhmm.
00:15:43
Lab testing, diagnostics, I'm assuming, right, you know, the front end.
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Tell me a little bit about, like, kind of tests do you like to run?
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You said you you're looking to hormones from time to time.
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GI testing and and storm testing and stuff like that?
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Yep.
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Testing probably number one things that I run.
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Okay.
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Like I said, I think that's a root cause problem for a lot of people.
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We do a lot of more saliva urine type hormone and adrenal testing.
00:16:08
Cool.
00:16:08
Because, obviously, stress is one of the number one root cause issues.
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Yeah.
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Stress those off your cortisol.
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Cortisol throws off your other hormones, which throws off testosterone, estrogen.
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Right?
00:16:21
So it's like, it starts with stress, which is a lot of times your adrenal hormones.
00:16:26
So, saliva, urine test is gonna give you on a cellular level, on a tissue level, what you
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your levels are.
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Blood is gonna just show you what's in your blood.
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You might have plenty of blood, but your your tissues could be it.
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Got it.
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So I like doing those and those are four or 5 times so you can see your starkeying rhythm.
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Oh, that's good.
00:16:46
Okay.
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Maybe your courses okay.
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My cortisol's 10.
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Well, it's supposed to be 5 and then it was supposed to be 20.
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Yeah.
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Once you got moving.
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Yeah.
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So getting one number, that doesn't tell me anything.
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Right?
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True.
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So I like those kinds of tests because I can get people's levels up so that they have more
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energy and then they can do the diet better.
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They can do the stress prediction better because they have more energy.
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So it's like going the course of a day.
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Doing a celeb test made multiple times a day.
00:17:12
Right?
00:17:12
Like, when they get up, maybe 10, 12, dinner, and then, like, when they go to sleep.
00:17:17
Yeah.
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You're gonna
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instead of just a snapshot, you're getting a whole daily picture of what their body's doing.
00:17:23
Exactly.
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And what what's
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the length of period of time of something like that?
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You know, you're creating the benchmark for that.
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To correct that,
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or would you need Yeah.
00:17:30
Yeah.
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So, like, if you're gonna create, like, an adrenal task.
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Yeah.
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I've actually never had an adrenal test.
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I would love to get one.
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Yeah.
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The, but is that over the course of a week?
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Is that, of course, 2 to 3 days that you're gonna set the baseline?
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And then you're gonna go look at that again.
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How is that how is that done?
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Well, I mean, you know, you're just gonna do it one day.
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One day.
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Yeah.
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Just one day.
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Okay.
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You try to get, like, your your average day.
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Okay.
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I made the mistake.
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I went to a lightning game.
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And I was like, oh my gosh, man, my cortisol's through the roof at night.
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And then I was like, I was talking to another doctor.
00:18:00
I worked with him.
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He said, well, what were you doing then?
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And I was like, it's not a lightning game.
00:18:03
He's like, fucked up.
00:18:04
Yeah.
00:18:05
It's sort of, like, you were hyped up.
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You're like, so, you know, don't, you know, do it like a regular day.
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Yeah.
00:18:12
And then you treat it in layers.
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Okay.
00:18:15
Right?
00:18:15
Like, the DHA and cortisol address that first and kinda get the start hating rhythm.
00:18:20
Right?
00:18:20
Mhmm.
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And then, you know, if testosterone's low, whatever, then you hit that next.
00:18:25
Mhmm.
00:18:25
Right?
00:18:25
And then maybe 4 months later, once you fixed everything, you've had, like, 90 days things
00:18:31
are better.
00:18:31
Hey, retest.
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See what we got again.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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That's awesome, man.
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I love that.
00:19:00
And so we definitely wanna link that, that webinar.
00:19:02
So we'll get that from you.
00:19:03
Link it to our show set.
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Anyone listening can go check that out.
00:19:06
Yeah.
00:19:06
And that's
00:19:07
gonna be massively helpful, man, for them learning more.
00:19:09
Yeah.
00:19:10
I just read it, like, on our website, axel sicknessa.com services.
00:19:14
I got like a like a gut tab, an adrenal tab.
00:19:17
Awesome.
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So I put, like, kind of these main ones I like to talk about.
00:19:20
Yeah.
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Right along there.
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Really?
00:19:22
Like, yes, it's your website for your for your practice, but it's like a database.
00:19:25
I was checking it out, and
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it's Yeah.
00:19:26
So much information.
00:19:27
People ask me for stuff.
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I'm like, I'm just even like front desk.
00:19:29
Like, where's this doc mail?
00:19:30
I'm like, I'm on everything on our website.
00:19:32
Yeah.
00:19:32
No one can find anything.
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You know?
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Like, it's amazing.
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Yeah.
00:19:35
That's awesome.
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It's awesome.
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Give it a go give every minute.
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Like Google Drive and our website.
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Is.
00:19:40
Got it.
00:19:41
Yeah, man.
00:19:41
So, you know, what are, like, what are your goals, man, you know, for you you got a
00:19:45
successful
00:19:45
practice, multiple locations, doing kind of
00:19:45
different services in in data play, is here.
00:19:50
You love to travel.
00:19:51
You love, you know, being outdoors and all that stuff.
00:19:54
What are you?
00:19:55
Like, where do you see yourself go in the next 5, 10 years with both business, life, you know,
00:20:00
just in general.
00:20:00
Again, I love your guys' pillars because it's so, you know, important to me and, you know,
00:20:00
everyone watching, but
00:20:08
you know, kind of that purpose side.
00:20:09
Mhmm.
00:20:10
Right?
00:20:10
So I've, like, I was so focused on, you know, starting a business and, you know, really
00:20:14
enjoyed helping people just like myself had similar issues.
00:20:18
But then, you know, it's like kinda got there in business.
00:20:21
You know, I could take my foot off the gas a little bit.
00:20:23
I could start a little bit more.
00:20:25
You know, like, my life got a little it wasn't like a rat race.
00:20:29
Right.
00:20:29
Right?
00:20:29
Where my adrenals and everything will just burned out.
00:20:33
And, you know, things were a little bit better financially.
00:20:35
I had a little bit more time to travel and do the things I wanted.
00:20:38
But then, you know, I kinda started to get to a point where I'm like, I will have less stress,
00:20:42
and I'm doing fun things, but, you know, but now that purpose side has started to go Right?
00:20:49
Cause I'm not working as much, maybe, helping as many people or or the next leg of business
00:20:55
of how I can help more people and do more So and you'll realize when you're not living on
00:21:00
perfect, your energy starts to go down.
00:21:02
Yeah.
00:21:02
Right?
00:21:02
Even though you're sleeping more, you might be more tired.
00:21:05
A lot of people have anxiety, depression.
00:21:07
They're tired all the time.
00:21:08
And, you know, I felt that a little
00:21:10
bit, to be honest.
00:21:10
So the, really, the next leg for me is like, hey, I
00:21:14
wanna back in, you know, I wanna add, kind of, make sure I'm still living on purpose.
00:21:18
Yeah.
00:21:18
In growing.
00:21:20
Cause again, we think you have a good business you have money.
00:21:23
You can travel, you can do what you want.
00:21:24
You're gonna be happy.
00:21:25
Well, that's not true.
00:21:26
The, you
00:21:26
know, you end up
00:21:26
more tired and depressed than than ever.
00:21:31
Yeah.
00:21:31
Yeah.
00:21:32
You know, so, it's not just about resting.
00:21:36
I think, you know, living on purpose gives you a lot of energy.
00:21:40
And can help reduce your stress levels.
00:21:42
Yeah.
00:21:42
Even though it might be a stressful thing you're doing, and it can lower your stress
00:21:46
level.
00:21:46
So that's kind of the next leg for me is I feel like I kinda I got out of school.
00:21:51
He's right.
00:21:51
You know?
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And it's like, okay.
00:21:52
Well, what's the, you know, I think just creating that balance.
00:21:56
Hey.
00:21:56
Make sure Hey, I don't need to go start 5 more businesses and do anything crazy right now.
00:22:01
I need to still be able to sleep.
00:22:01
Mhmm.
00:22:01
You know, but then, you know, just traveling around the world and doing whatever you want,
00:22:07
is it gonna make you happy either?
00:22:09
Yeah.
00:22:09
You know, just like It's
00:22:10
a really good point.
00:22:11
Just being selfish and doing some of the tech, you know, makes you happy.
00:22:15
Like, that's not gonna make you happy.
00:22:16
Yeah.
00:22:17
So that's kinda for me.
00:22:18
I'm right now trying to find balance.
00:22:20
I'm trying to get more of that purpose side, more of that business side a little bit.
00:22:23
Bigger in my life.
00:22:24
Yeah.
00:22:25
And, you know, now they have a little bit more time, you know,
00:22:28
get back into my health a little bit more.
00:22:28
You know,
00:22:28
we're a bit like ozone therapy IVs, hyperbaric.
00:22:35
You know, I wanna start to
00:22:36
stuff, man.
00:22:36
I wanna get a little slice of the pie of my life too, a little bit more geared towards
00:22:42
putting back into my health.
00:22:43
Yeah.
00:22:43
Mhmm.
00:22:44
For sure.
00:22:44
So people, you know, I I guess everyone says, you know, it's all about everything in
00:22:46
moderation and you know, it's just so true.
00:22:52
Yeah.
00:22:52
Having those itself.
00:22:53
For me, it's, I'd say, finding balance.
00:22:56
Yeah.
00:22:56
And purposes, kinda, my
00:22:58
That's kinda what we talked
00:22:59
about, like, with for longevity.
00:23:01
Right?
00:23:01
Like, you can't be, like, you've got a table that has four legs and one of those legs is
00:23:05
taken away.
00:23:05
That table's gonna fall Right?
00:23:07
And that's like the the balance of life.
00:23:08
Right?
00:23:08
Like, you gotta have all your things like holding you up.
00:23:12
Health.
00:23:12
You gotta have the purpose.
00:23:13
Right?
00:23:14
You gotta be optimizing all areas or else that's not a longevity play.
00:23:18
Right?
00:23:18
And that's kinda what we
00:23:20
Yeah.
00:23:20
Purpose of this, man.
00:23:21
And then,
00:23:21
you know, there's seasons in your life where you gotta really focus you know, when you start
00:23:24
a business, like, no, it's not the time to to be getting extra sleep.
00:23:28
Right?
00:23:29
Yeah.
00:23:29
It's true.
00:23:29
You gotta you might have to put a year into it, you know.
00:23:32
So you have the seasons where you're gonna be out of balance a little bit.
00:23:36
I think that's okay.
00:23:37
Yeah.
00:23:37
It's a balancing act.
00:23:38
You know?
00:23:39
Yeah.
00:23:40
Right.
00:23:40
For sure.
00:23:40
It's all about, like, expectations, right, and no kind of the seasonality of it, of when your
00:23:45
health is taking, you know, the there's implications to your health from a longevity
00:23:50
perspective, I think, is like a big thing too.
00:23:52
That's something I'm, like, thinking of as we gear up and even do things like this and to
00:23:57
empower other people, but we take in the mindset of, like, expectations of what that's
00:24:01
gonna do to our families.
00:24:02
Right?
00:24:03
Yeah.
00:24:03
For sure.
00:24:03
And and those things.
00:24:05
But let me tell you that I I got a question in regards to you.
00:24:09
You said you love asking I'm big basketball doing a lot of basketball.
00:24:12
I I wish I played actually a little bit more, but, you know, I grew up playing basketball and
00:24:16
I, like, I that level of competition has just never left me.
00:24:20
Like, I love competing.
00:24:21
I don't know if that's something you love doing or or you see that in life.
00:24:25
But as you balance those things and then you say living on purpose, what is that level of
00:24:31
like, you know, what the intentionality and that purpose.
00:24:34
And maybe even that level of, it's like, self competition that you're trying to promote,
00:24:39
through those, maybe some goals that you're setting.
00:24:42
Yeah.
00:24:42
Disicals I'm studying for myself.
00:24:44
Yeah.
00:24:44
So or if it's maybe even a day to day, just like, you know, I like for me, competition of
00:24:49
just getting that 1%.
00:24:51
I think it's the James uh-uh James Clear model of, like, getting that 1% improvement every
00:24:56
day.
00:24:56
Why do I step into a cold why do I I do genuinely love going to the gym.
00:25:01
Like, I don't I I don't necessarily love going to the gym, but I love, like, We have a
00:25:06
community of guys that work out with kettlebells.
00:25:08
So that's a level of competition, you know, that I have with myself.
00:25:11
It's like kind of a mind game of like Yeah.
00:25:12
I wanna improve.
00:25:13
I wanna get a little bit better.
00:25:15
So, like, whether it's a day by day, year by year, whatever it is, is it maybe even if it's
00:25:20
like, you know, a hobby, like golf, basketball, or even in your practice, start up those
00:25:25
businesses, but having that balance, are you competing?
00:25:28
Are you challenging yourself on a daily basis?
00:25:30
Yeah.
00:25:30
Very annual basis?
00:25:31
I mean, absolutely.
00:25:32
It's like that hole if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.
00:25:36
That's right.
00:25:36
Yeah.
00:25:37
And, you know, I'm big, I like playing golf, basketball.
00:25:40
Nice.
00:25:40
And then with golf, it was like, oh, you know, it's shoot the same every time.
00:25:44
I'm like, it's not even fun anymore.
00:25:45
You know, then it's like, okay, now I'm getting back, putt, you know, go 20 minutes putt
00:25:50
morning.
00:25:50
Yeah.
00:25:50
You know, gotta dial it in.
00:25:52
Okay.
00:25:52
Now I'm I'm moving.
00:25:53
I'm getting better.
00:25:55
Yeah.
00:25:55
I'm seeing what now it's it's fun.
00:25:57
It's fulfilling.
00:25:59
So I just think yeah.
00:26:00
So for me, definitely with, you know, with golf right now is my big kinda competitiveness.
00:26:05
Okay.
00:26:05
And that's
00:26:06
like a $1000 bet with my neighbor.
00:26:07
That he can't beat me next year.
00:26:09
So I'm like, alright.
00:26:09
I gotta really crack.
00:26:10
Yeah.
00:26:11
But, you know, I love that.
00:26:13
That makes it fun.
00:26:14
Yeah.
00:26:14
100%.
00:26:15
And whether it's your spiritual life, whether it's your business, whether it's sports.
00:26:20
Mhmm.
00:26:20
Some people maybe aren't as competitive as us, but I still think it's universally true.
00:26:26
That you're gonna be a lot happier if you're moving forward.
00:26:29
Yeah.
00:26:30
Right?
00:26:31
Just as far as just your health, that creates a lot of happiness and fulfillment when you're
00:26:36
when you're growing.
00:26:37
Mhmm.
00:26:37
And you're pushing forward.
00:26:39
Like I said, that was one of the times I've kinda felt the worst when I was like, Growth
00:26:43
Growth Growth.
00:26:43
Okay.
00:26:44
I kinda made it.
00:26:44
I took my foot off the gas.
00:26:46
And then I was like, when I'm bored and depressed on most, you know, like, just pushing
00:26:51
forward.
00:26:51
Absolutely.
00:26:52
That stuff that.
00:26:52
It's Yeah.
00:26:53
So so important.
00:26:54
That's cool.
00:26:55
I've I've felt that before.
00:26:56
I know exactly what you're saying when, like, you could be your practice could be successful.
00:26:59
You'd be seeing patients all day every day, but it's, like, kind of that same almost monotonous
00:27:03
structure.
00:27:03
Yeah.
00:27:04
Sometimes you're at least what I've experienced is, like, that purpose starts to kind of fade
00:27:08
out of your forefront
00:27:09
Yeah.
00:27:10
But then you get a patient who comes in, you help them, dude, and they have a remarkable
00:27:13
transformative, experience, and they're praising you how much.
00:27:17
And then like, boom, that purpose is right back.
00:27:19
Like, I know why I do this, what it's for.
00:27:21
Right?
00:27:21
And I think that's that's awesome, man, that changing lives.
00:27:25
You know, I people that don't have businesses, I mean, we're just always inundated with, you
00:27:29
know, sports business, like, easy to find goals and stuff, but think for the everyday persons,
00:27:34
it's just all around you.
00:27:35
You know, even if it's with even if you have a great relationship, great marriage, it's like,
00:27:39
it can always be better.
00:27:41
Yeah.
00:27:41
Mhmm.
00:27:41
So even just rating a game for yourself.
00:27:44
How can I get that much better?
00:27:45
What can I do to just be the best?
00:27:48
Okay.
00:27:48
Well, you know, I I'm not married.
00:27:50
So, man, I'm the best person to speak, well, you know, I'm gonna start writing them a letter
00:27:55
every week and just like, wow then.
00:27:57
Wow.
00:27:57
Right.
00:27:57
You know, or just something like that, even with your manager or sport, like like anything
00:28:01
in life, you can find a way to next level and growing it.
00:28:06
And, you know, I just think that's on the mindset part is just just to always be
00:28:11
challenging yourself.
00:28:12
And what that does to, like, your overall, like, well-being when you do that type of
00:28:16
stuff.
00:28:16
Like, I mean, that's, like, next level.
00:28:18
I just, like, it wanted to tap into a few documentaries because I'm like, dude, it, like,
00:28:22
high level guys really intrigue me.
00:28:24
And and so I was watching a documentary.
00:28:27
I watched one brief one on Tom Brady, and then I watched another brief one on, Dorian Yates,
00:28:31
who is a 6 time mister be a champion.
00:28:34
He's just, like, jacked.
00:28:35
They're, like, huge.
00:28:36
But, I was just watching the 2, and I've I've, like, growing up in the eighties.
00:28:41
I just, like, lovel of Michael Jordan.
00:28:43
Yeah.
00:28:43
And so, like, it but I you know, the thought process always comes to, you win a
00:28:48
championship.
00:28:49
Right?
00:28:49
You then you win another one.
00:28:51
Then you win another one.
00:28:52
You know, like
00:28:53
Yeah.
00:28:54
At what point were you like, man, these are getting boring, but
00:28:57
then they're
00:28:57
not bad.
00:28:58
I bet they're not that right.
00:28:59
Yeah.
00:28:59
And so And so then I started to think about it when I was watching this Dorian Yates thing,
00:29:04
and he was a little bit different because, like, he was going through excruciating pain
00:29:10
lifting weights, like excruciating pain, to then, like, at points, like making civil self
00:29:16
sick, to win mister Olympia.
00:29:18
Right?
00:29:19
Yeah.
00:29:19
And so I'm like, and then he's winning it 3, 4, 5, 6 times.
00:29:24
And so I'm like, Dude, what is the separator?
00:29:26
What's the separator?
00:29:27
And I thought about this.
00:29:29
And I was like, they fell in love with the process so much so much that the championship
00:29:36
became inevitable.
00:29:37
So when they got to the championship, they're like, we're here.
00:29:39
We're gonna win it regardless, but I love the process in the day to day so much that the
00:29:45
championship becomes inevitable.
00:29:46
And I was like, then I thought back.
00:29:47
I'm a big book reader.
00:29:48
And I, like, John Woodin wrote about that.
00:29:51
John wouldn't, you know, be in the basketball, won 13 national championships.
00:29:56
It was expected.
00:29:58
Expected.
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You go into the game.
00:30:00
You practiced so hard, but you enjoyed the game so much.
00:30:03
The game became easy.
00:30:04
Right?
00:30:04
And so I was, like, processing through this.
00:30:06
So, anyway, We have, like, a newsletter I sent out a weekly basis.
00:30:10
I was like, I I wrote I wrote about it.
00:30:12
Right?
00:30:12
And then at the end, and I was like, yeah.
00:30:14
So I've been voted the world's best ad 7 straight years.
00:30:19
This is how I did it.
00:30:21
But the reality is, like, you know, I only needed 4 votes.
00:30:24
I got 3 girls and a wife.
00:30:25
You know, that's all
00:30:26
I did.
00:30:26
Yeah.
00:30:27
Yeah.
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But the reality is is, like, that same thing.
00:30:31
Like, I'm not gonna give up my kids.
00:30:33
Like, I'm not gonna give it up by my wife, but those are the small things of falling in love
00:30:38
with the process Yep.
00:30:40
Over and over and over again.
00:30:41
That makes you the world greatest, right, that makes you to show up for game time.
00:30:45
Right?
00:30:45
You got it in a dad.
00:30:46
You're you're showing up game time every day, but the reality is it's like falling in love
00:30:50
with the process so much Yep.
00:30:52
The championship becomes inevitable.
00:30:54
So anyways, that's just something what I was like, Larry, just watch these documentaries on.
00:30:59
It's a mindset game, but you gotta fall in love with the process.
00:31:02
Yeah.
00:31:02
Yep.
00:31:02
It's good stuff.
00:31:03
Yeah.
00:31:04
Man, we talk about that all the time.
00:31:06
Like, a couple of our last episodes were about how you can use your mind to override that fear
00:31:11
or whatever it might be, right, your conscious mind controls your subconscious, which then
00:31:15
controls your, like, automatic actions that you do, right, and and how do we shift into that?
00:31:21
Like, I just do this, right, or, like, well, we got into, like, like, how to teach people how
00:31:25
to fast.
00:31:25
We did a whole episode on, like, how to learn to fast if you've never done it before.
00:31:29
And it's like, start by not just like grabbing whatever's in front of your face and putting it
00:31:32
in your mouth.
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Like, most most people just walk in the kitchen as there's food.
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You said his word gamification Like, I thought you were about to hop on that because you're
00:32:19
like, you're always like, Gil, how did Gabeify this?
00:32:21
I didn't make this, like, like, something that's, like, fun to do and not just, like,
00:32:25
something I have to do.
00:32:26
Right?
00:32:26
That's right.
00:32:27
I think
00:32:27
that's that's super huge.
00:32:28
But yeah, man, you know, with the with our mission here and like the purpose of helping
00:32:33
people to optimize their health, we touch on the pillars.
00:32:35
You've already we've already kind of talked about it, but, you know, we have the 6 pillars
00:32:38
of fuel, like what we put into our body, movement, sleep, mind.
00:32:43
So like mindset, spiritual health and then, like, purpose and work and how these things,
00:32:48
like, the concept full fueled.
00:32:49
How do these things fully fuel us?
00:32:51
Tell me, man, how do you how do you stay full fueled work, life, all of that.
00:32:56
Like, what are your, I don't know, give a top few things?
00:32:59
Most people when they think, you know, fuel, it's like, diet is like 90% of it, but, like,
00:33:04
it's one out of one of your 6 pillars.
00:33:06
Yeah.
00:33:07
So and I just find that to be so true.
00:33:10
And, well, I've found that a lot more true over the last 5 or 6 years.
00:33:13
Well, as far as food goes, you know, I'm someone that is kind of active and busy.
00:33:17
Kind of my biggest things, and I've taught to a lot patients are a lot like me.
00:33:21
I have an air fryer and a pressure cooker.
00:33:26
And those are like life.
00:33:28
Game changers.
00:33:28
Game changers, like, I think I would I wouldn't be able to live now without life.
00:33:34
Yeah.
00:33:34
So, you know, gut health wise, So I just think soup and broth is just, you know, the number
00:33:43
one thing you can do for gut health.
00:33:44
Mhmm.
00:33:44
People are like, no, I'm, you know, I'm I'm eating raw.
00:33:46
Doing a lot of juices.
00:33:47
It's like, yeah, you're getting a lot of nutrients, but that doesn't heal the gut
00:33:50
lining.
00:33:51
Right?
00:33:52
So I'm big on, you know, every week or 2 making a big thing of that soup.
00:33:56
Putting it in to go things.
00:33:58
Like, in the morning, grab it, bring it to work, put in the air fry, you know, in the
00:34:01
toaster of an air fryer, you know, just heat it up in the bowl.
00:34:04
Don't even have to switch bowls, you know.
00:34:05
It's easy quick.
00:34:06
Because right, that's a big thing.
00:34:07
I don't have time to cook.
00:34:08
I'm busy and work well.
00:34:09
Efficiency.
00:34:10
No.
00:34:10
That's you're not being efficient.
00:34:12
You can do things like this.
00:34:13
Yeah.
00:34:14
So I'm big on that.
00:34:15
And then, hey, you know, I can grab a piece of salmon out of the fridge, asparagus, put that
00:34:19
on a tray, put it in there.
00:34:21
I'll go shower.
00:34:21
When I get out 8 minutes later, it's done.
00:34:24
You know?
00:34:24
So fuel for me is efficiency.
00:34:26
I think a lot.
00:34:27
You know, big on the eightytwenty rule too.
00:34:29
Hey, like, go hard during the week.
00:34:31
Yep.
00:34:31
And then on the weekend, you know?
00:34:33
Go out, have a burger, whatever.
00:34:34
Enjoy your
00:34:35
life a little bit.
00:34:35
Yeah.
00:34:36
Kind of that the happiness aspect of it is big.
00:34:41
You know, if maybe something's not the healthiest, But, like, if you find a lot of
00:34:44
enjoyment and maybe you're having a you're going out to eat with people and you're having
00:34:49
really good fulfilling conversations and stuff like that, that health benefit by far
00:34:54
outweighs.
00:34:55
I agree.
00:34:55
You know, maybe you're about having to detox a little bit from it, you know.
00:34:58
You're getting a like, a very high net positive.
00:35:01
So it's like, I always think of things as positive or negative, like, collectively
00:35:06
together.
00:35:07
That's huge.
00:35:07
I think a lot of people don't really do that.
00:35:09
They're just like black and white.
00:35:10
Yes or no, but it's like, no, you have to look at the situation.
00:35:13
You know, my mom, I remember she wasn't really juicing much.
00:35:17
She's like, well, you know, she bought, like, the, like, cold press 1 and whatever.
00:35:21
And I'm like, she had the other one.
00:35:23
Like, listen, if you'll juice more with the other one that's not as good, you know, but
00:35:27
it's less stress.
00:35:28
Right.
00:35:29
It's quicker.
00:35:30
That's
00:35:30
probably gonna be a net positive.
00:35:32
Yeah.
00:35:32
Right?
00:35:32
So don't be stressed out that you're not doing the best.
00:35:35
You know, like, what's it how much time is it taking out of your day?
00:35:39
What's the stress level it's putting on your body?
00:35:41
Yeah.
00:35:42
And so I like to look at those decisions as far as what I eat and and those things a little bit
00:35:48
more collectively than anything a lot
00:35:50
of huge
00:35:50
people do.
00:35:51
Yeah.
00:35:51
And you
00:35:52
know, like the movement part, like I said, just we've been talking about I think make make
00:35:56
gamify
00:35:56
it gamify.
00:35:57
Make exercise a game.
00:35:58
You know, people like lifting, you know, they wanna just get stronger or or, you know, it's
00:36:01
like, you gotta set that goal and make it make it fun for yourself.
00:36:05
Right.
00:36:05
You know, purpose.
00:36:06
We talked about mindset.
00:36:07
Yeah.
00:36:07
I mean, just like, those are amazing, man.
00:36:09
You did a good job with that because it's like
00:36:11
I appreciate it, man.
00:36:11
Those, but I think the key point there is I said, from the beginning is those are all
00:36:16
important.
00:36:17
People, I think people think it's crazy me saying this.
00:36:20
You know, only like a functional medicine office, but the nutrition part like, you have
00:36:24
to have it, but it's really not the most important part.
00:36:27
Mhmm.
00:36:27
Like, it has to be there, but
00:36:29
Oh, that's awesome.
00:36:30
You know, your mindset right, a good example.
00:36:34
I remember I was, like, you know, eating on the go.
00:36:36
I was stressed out.
00:36:37
I was, like, man, eating really healthy, but then I was getting, like, cramps and, like,
00:36:40
gas.
00:36:42
And I'm like, what the heck?
00:36:44
Well, my mind, you know, was stressed, so my my mind wasn't telling my gut to digest the food
00:36:49
properly.
00:36:49
So
00:36:50
I wasn't absorbing those nutrients, you know, it was creating gas and stuff like that.
00:36:54
And, there was other times, like, I'm on vacation, like, eating everything that I want.
00:36:58
I'm like, man, my stomach feels great.
00:36:59
I'm digesting well.
00:37:01
Yeah.
00:37:01
Yeah.
00:37:02
Because my brain was in a more relaxed kinda rest and digest.
00:37:06
Or something that it was on.
00:37:07
Yeah.
00:37:08
So it's like, yeah, it's not just what you eat.
00:37:11
Right?
00:37:11
It's the kind of mindset part can make or break what you're eating.
00:37:14
Yeah.
00:37:15
I don't think people think about that.
00:37:17
That is like so true and, like, pivotal too and, like, really understanding.
00:37:22
I'm a big coal plunge I I like absolutely love it.
00:37:24
I thrive on it.
00:37:25
But, like, the parasympathetic state is just so important to opening up because it, like,
00:37:31
relaxes your body So when you can treat food, like, exactly what you're saying, you know, I I
00:37:37
learned this, a couple weeks ago.
00:37:39
I learned this, like, the the top down approach.
00:37:41
And I had no idea that, like, even opening up your parasympathetic state and, like, not,
00:37:47
like, engaging your phone or other type of electronics, creates more saliva in your mouth,
00:37:52
which ultimately is gonna create more stomach acid for you to then break down your food and
00:37:56
not be, like, super tense and tight all the time, which then, you know, obviously creates
00:38:01
that bloating.
00:38:01
But if you can just, like, slow down and almost have, like, a level of gratitude towards food
00:38:07
and be like, man, It smell it for a second.
00:38:10
Maybe even pray to god.
00:38:12
You know, hey, like, thank you for this food.
00:38:14
Right?
00:38:15
And just really enjoy, like, the taste of it Yeah.
00:38:18
That that burger actually breaks down a little bit easier, right, that all those things, like,
00:38:23
maybe maybe, yeah, maybe not the best of, but, like, you know, your body is in such a relaxed
00:38:28
state.
00:38:29
You open up the parachute thing.
00:38:30
You're having quality conversations.
00:38:31
You're not touching your phone.
00:38:33
You're like, Oh, actually, like, my body feels better.
00:38:36
Like, I can break down food a lot faster.
00:38:38
And so anyways, I think that's, like, so crucial and really understanding of, like, how
00:38:42
to approach, like, food, and then the processing of it.
00:38:46
You guys are familiar with butane HCL in Asthemic acid?
00:38:49
Yeah.
00:38:49
That's honestly probably one of my favorite like, secret supplements Mhmm.
00:38:54
That people just don't know about, which is stomach acid.
00:38:56
So, yeah, when you're stressed out, your stomach doesn't make with juices and you don't
00:39:00
digest well.
00:39:01
So a lot of my patients, I've, you know, I start them on that.
00:39:05
I'm like, I'm starting this with your meals.
00:39:07
Right?
00:39:07
And that's just like, can be a game changer
00:39:10
Yeah.
00:39:10
For a lot of people, but, yeah, most people don't know.
00:39:13
I think that just means it's like, no, this is stomach acid.
00:39:16
It's different than the enzymes.
00:39:18
Right?
00:39:18
Right.
00:39:18
Heating that.
00:39:19
Yeah.
00:39:19
And so, yeah, when we're stressed out, we're not sitting and praying, like, okay, I'm gonna
00:39:24
eat this meal.
00:39:25
It's, I think, one of the big missing links in that unit digestive process.
00:39:29
Huge.
00:39:29
So check that out.
00:39:30
We can put that in the show notes.
00:39:31
Definitely.
00:39:32
Yeah.
00:39:32
Yeah.
00:39:32
I think you're talking about that a lot on your website.
00:39:34
You have
00:39:34
different videos and specific topics on that, man.
00:39:37
Absolutely crushed that answer to that question, by the way.
00:39:39
That was, like, that was fantastic.
00:39:41
That was good.
00:39:41
Yeah.
00:39:42
That was that was amazing.
00:39:43
Man, definitely gonna bring you back on the show and get more in-depth on stuff.
00:39:47
I wanna wanna thank you for coming.
00:39:49
Tell everybody where they can find you.
00:39:51
What's your website, your your social, all that stuff.
00:39:55
Yep.
00:39:55
Just accelisticmedicine.com.
00:39:58
You know, services.
00:39:59
You can read holistic medicine, kinda what we do, and then integrative testing.
00:40:02
You wanna learn about the stool test, the adrenal testing we offer on there.
00:40:07
And then social media, just my name, Doctor Jordan ax, Instagram, Facebook, and, you can
00:40:14
see kinda my thoughts on health.
00:40:16
And if I'm doing a hike, you know, seeing me doing that.
00:40:19
Yeah.
00:40:19
Yeah.
00:40:20
Man,
00:40:20
thanks so much for,
00:40:21
you
00:40:21
know, Awesome, man.
00:40:22
It was great.
00:40:23
Great having him on the show, bro.
00:40:24
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00:40:26
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00:40:27
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00:40:28
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