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I recently saw a statistic that said, like, 26% of doctors are going to leave a clinical
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setting in the like, 5 years or something.
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Don't quote me on that, but it was something ridiculous where it was like, people are
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leaving.
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Even my friend lives in, Austin is a dietitian up there in Boston Children's, which is saying,
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like, the turnover there at in the hospitals, like, no one wants to stay in hospitals
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anymore.
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No one wants to work there.
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Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
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Welcome to full field with someone.
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I got it, man.
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Hey.
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A heck.
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Good day, man.
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Exciting stuff here.
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Gotta We
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got a special guest with us today.
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I'm super excited.
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I'm actually really excited.
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Yeah.
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It's it's been a long time coming.
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So ladies and gentlemen, today, we have the privilege of welcoming a true powerhouse in the
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fields of nutrition, entrepreneurship, and education.
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So we're gonna we're gonna fill you in on all three of those.
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Our guest, Dasha, and Golik, is a trailblazer, whose remarkable achievements have left an
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indeddible mark on the world of nutrition and gut health, which we're gonna be focusing on
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both of those, and we're gonna be focused obviously, the entrepreneurship piece because
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she is amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Tell a little bit about her.
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Dasha is
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a registered dietitian, 5 time published nutrition researcher, 2 time award winning
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bikini athlete.
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That's awesome.
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She graduated from nutrition Graduate Program in the country Tufts University, a Freedman
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School, her research and coaching focuses on optimizing metabolic and digestive health
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through nutrition and exercise size.
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Core for core perform has helped over 500 people and growing.
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Right?
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You're still you're still building this.
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And you get results in just 3 months.
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With a 100% success rate.
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That's fantastic.
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I love that.
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Those stats right there.
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She recently won Freedman's 100 pitch competition for her patent pending protein,
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which I wanna hear a lot more about, and was welcomed into the US Food And Innovation
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Council with leaders in the industry like Kellogg, Campbell, Nesli.
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That's freaking huge.
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That's awesome.
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Dasha, how are you?
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Welcome to the show.
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Good.
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Thank you guys for having me.
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How are you guys doing?
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We're doing awesome.
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We're blessed today.
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We bless being on budget.
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It's a chilly day here in Tampa, Florida.
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How's the how's the weather out there?
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It's 46, but Texas is weird.
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We we wake up that with, like, 40 degrees.
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And by by afternoon, the sun heats us up to, like, 7 2.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's that's Florida.
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That's like Tampa right now.
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We call that, like, 75.55, I feel like.
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So I wanna dig in.
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We wanna get nerdy today.
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But then we also wanna get like, I wanna I wanna hear the entrepreneurship side as well,
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but, you know, our focus is living full fueled.
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So We wanna make sure we focus on the pillars, and that is the main thing is gut health.
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The gut health is so important.
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And, we know you're an expert in that area.
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So we wanna focus on that.
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But, we also our first question is, can you share a bit about your journey in the field of
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nutrition and specifically gut health, from your academic side at maybe Tufts and and how,
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like, how the thing evolved, they being came about, then also to the founding of core
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perform.
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So if you could just give us a little background there.
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Sure thing.
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So, my background is in nutrition research.
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So I got my masters in nutritional epidemiology from Tufts Nutrition, which is a really fancy
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way of saying how diet affects disease.
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And so my thesis at Tufts was looking at the paleo diet.
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How was it created?
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Who created the concept, is it actually valid based off of the research that we have around
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it, which it's not?
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Like, we didn't as human populations, we didn't really eat like they say we did.
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The research says that we ate, like, a 110 grams of fiber a day, and and that's not
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realistic, which I can go into later on, but, my research really focused on the paleo diet.
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And that time, I was getting diagnosed with celiac disease.
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So I was going through my own gut issues at that time dealing with battling with doctors.
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I remember one time I was sitting in Boston traffic with if any of you are from Boston, you
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know that this is, like, a 2 hour, you're stuck in head to head car.
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I remember having such a spasm and, like, stabbing pain in my stomach.
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I almost Like, I was stuck because I was like, do I call an ambulance?
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Because it's gonna take them just as long to get to me right now in the middle of traffic.
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Or do I try and make it the at another 30 minutes to the next exit?
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Like, I was in so much pain during that time, and that really fueled a lot of my interest in
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gut health and understanding why the system is so broken in terms of the medical system.
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I was wanting to be a doctor.
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And then, you know, I was like, you know what?
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I wanna be a dietitian because I can change people's lifestyle and diet in order to improve
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their health.
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I don't have to have them get on a medication I can a human being.
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After people work with me, I get to see the brightness that changes in their in their life.
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I get to hear about how their coworkers are commenting how much nicer they are and happier
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they look.
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And what's the magic trick that's now going on?
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So all of that research got me really interested in in gut health.
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And I remember when I was choosing my thesis at the time, I was I I actually wanted at the time
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to do the low fodmap diet.
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I was like, you know, this is gonna be the next big thing.
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And my professors were like, no.
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There's not enough research on it.
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You shouldn't choose the low fodmap diet.
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No one knows about it.
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I've never heard about it.
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And I was like, no, I wanna do it.
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And they were like, you don't you can't do that one.
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And funny enough, like, 10 years later, everyone knows what the low fodmap diet is.
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And I was like, I should do it.
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It's always
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been a huge passion of mine, and I then became a dietitian and opened my own practice right
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graduation.
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I I love that you you went that route open your own practice and you went entrepreneurial stuck
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because, you know, a lot of dietitians get stuck in that meta system too.
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Right?
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Like, they just go work with a hospital system, and then it's just, I mean, like, a hospital
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nutritionist is giving people peanut butter and jelly bedsided.
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Like you said, it's broken.
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Right?
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So you're you're, shifting the paradigm in another direction, which is fantastic.
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So really, really love that.
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I actually worked in a hospital for while I was doing my dietetic internship, and I remember my
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like, the whole time I was like, I came in as an entrepreneur, and I was like, I'm going to
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be an entrepreneur after this.
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And my dietetic director, she was like, why are you in one of the best clinical programs in
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this country if you're not gonna go clinical?
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And I was like, because I need to learn what's going on in those systems because all of my
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patients have to understand and myself.
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Like, we all go through that hospital system at some point in our lives, and I need to
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understand it.
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From the ground up.
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I know I need to know internally how the teams are working, how the dietitians are working in
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those teams, and that's why I love doing my internship.
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I hated it, but I loved, like, what I learned out of it.
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It was absolutely brutal, but I get it now.
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Right?
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Like, I get why the dietitians are feeding them peanut butter sandwiches.
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I get why they're feeding them ice cream sundaes.
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Like, I get it.
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If I was them, I would be doing the same thing.
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It's not because they want to be doing that.
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It's because of how the system is set up, but they have no better choice.
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And at that point when you're sick, calories are calories.
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Like, we have to get something in them.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And that's where they're taught, and they kinda just follow that.
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That model.
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Right?
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Like, very similar to many MDs.
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And again, like, I think doctors are are smart people for the most part, but you get taught
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what to think right, versus how to think a lot of the of the time.
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So I think, it's it's great to see people like yourself, especially young people, like,
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shifting that.
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Right?
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Like, we're kind of the next, I don't know, generation of of docs that are trying to do
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something a little bit different and focus more on the patient than the, like, the process
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Right.
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I recently saw a statistic that said, like, 26% of doctors are going to leave the clinical
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setting in the next, like, 5 years or something.
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Don't quote me on that, but it was something ridiculous where it was like, people are
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leaving the help.
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I even my friend lives in, Austin and is a dietitian up there in Boston Children's, and
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she was saying, like, the turnover there at in the hospitals, like, no one wants to stay in
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hospitals anymore.
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No one wants to work there.
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Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, like, what's the energy like in a hospital?
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It's usually not great.
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Right?
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It's pretty negative.
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Very just I don't think people really get, like, healthier in a hospital.
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Maybe they're, like, being saved from some kind of life threatening, like, injury or illness.
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Acutely, but, like, you're not they're not ultimately getting healthier, right, and that
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that's gotta happen honestly, like, at home, right, with your diet and and you mission
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stuff, which is kinda segues right into what I wanted to ask you.
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Can you explain a little bit the the unique approach that you have with the court perform?
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That, you know, helps people to optimize their their metabolic and digestive health and and
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how you kinda came up with that.
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Yeah.
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So while I was going through this, I kind of was like, as a dietitian, what is the most
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inclusive diet that I could create that was least inflammatory for the most amount people,
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which means that, like, if I just gave it to Jane May, who I don't even know.
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Jane Doe, that's name.
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It's like May.
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If I give it, yeah, Jane, if I give it to Jane May and I don't know what's going on with her,
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will she see a benefit from this diet.
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And so what I did was I combined aspects of paleo, AIP, low histamine, low fodmap, but what
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I did was those diets, a lot of them are actually they're not, like, changing any
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carbohydrate intake or fat or protein intake.
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Like, you can still eat all those things on all of the diets.
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But what changes is the specific fruits and vegetables.
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So I went through those lists and I made, like, a really, really, micronutrient dense foods
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list for my patients that's put into 3 columns, a little bit mirrored from this walls protocol,
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you've ever heard of the Walls diet, which is a clinical, evidence based.
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She's done clinical trials on her diet, intervention.
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And it's kind of picking up pieces of that as well, where it's really focusing on the 3
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phases of your liver detoxification and then proteins.
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And, so I've created this diet.
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Right?
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And so everyone who comes me, we typically, for the most part, I mean, of course, there's
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modulations based off of the person, but we put them on this elimination diet.
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And as quickly as we can, we reintroduce the food back into the diet.
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And the reason why we do this is because food sensitivity tests are not accurate.
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And the only true way to identify food sensitivity and to heal from any food
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sensitivities that might have come up is to eliminate and change whatever food that you're
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eating.
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So we see huge results without even needing to do expensive testing, put expensive supplements
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you do whatever it is.
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It's truly a natural process that we try and focus on.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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That I do some some similar stuff in my practice, not as in-depth as you, but what's,
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like, the buy in with patients?
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Is that tough for you to get, you know, people to, hey.
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Let's make sure we are eliminating Is that what what's, like, what kind of roadblocks do you
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come in into contact with?
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Honestly, there's really it's not very difficult for the 1st week or 2.
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Right?
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And the reason being that I think that most people have there's really no roadblock to be
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completely honest
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Yeah.
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Because within the 1st week, people feel so much better.
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Like, I have people losing between 0 to 10 pounds.
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I had a girl once who's £10 of water.
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I had her tracking her calories every day.
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I was like, you're hitting the same macro.
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She came from a bodybuilding background.
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She lost £10 of water in a in a week.
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I was like, how are you alive?
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Like, how did you feel that much inflammation in your cyst dumb.
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Yeah.
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I feel like one thing I love about you, you know, there's a book.
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I think they call it.
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It's called the speed of trust, and it's one of those things when they're coming to you.
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You're just, like, building that trust as fast as possible or already have it just because,
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obviously, your background.
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So they're coming to you and they're like, look.
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I need help.
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But the other thing that I love, what you're saying is, like, It's part of the reason why I
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love Doctor.
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Lane Norton.
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He's all about the science.
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Give me the science first.
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Like, I'm I wanna be science forward.
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I wanna figure out, like, the root And then and then we'll then we'll trace back, and and help
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you.
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So this is another question.
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In terms of, like, a 100% success rate in court perform.
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Because, like, those when proteins, when we I take pro scenes when I'm working out, they
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majority of them do leave you bloated.
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They there's some sort of digestive angle that, like, throws you off but now you've helped over
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500 clients.
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I think it's more at this point in 3 months, but you've had a 100% success rate.
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Can you share?
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You've already shared a couple but something inspiring stories or excess success
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transformations that you've seen.
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Do you wanna differentiate the difference between my protein supplement company and the
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coaching side of company because
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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The protein company, I only started because of my clients because when I started putting them
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on this elimination, that was, like, you know, the basic, like, hey.
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Let's not use processed whey proteins that make you fart all the time.
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And they were like, okay, Dasha.
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Well, what's the solution?
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And I said, you know, I don't have one.
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The plant based proteins on the market right now have heavy metals in them.
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They have tons of gums and fillers, and they're filled with, like, the ingredients list is so
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long, and the amino acid intake is not optimized, which means that I need you having
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double the amount.
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Can you imagine someone with GI distress now having to have double the amount of this a key
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protein and liking it.
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Like, this just doesn't make sense.
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Yeah.
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So I
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was like, you know, I need to create an amino acid optimized formula that matches way in a
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one to one scoop.
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So just as much lucy and just as much essential amino acids in this one scoop as this way
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protein scoop does.
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And that's why I created that that corporate formula that was top line allergen friendly
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that could be digested, that didn't have gums, that didn't have our official sweeteners and
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still taste it amazing.
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So that's why I created the core perform protein powder, but I do not require my
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patients to use it.
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All.
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I only use I only created it for them because they were asking me for that solution to begin
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with.
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And I say, hey.
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This is one option, but, like, If you want to try beef isolate, you can try that.
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I personally think that that tastes like metal, but you can try that.
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And, like, you can try all these other options.
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That's awesome.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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And I think, you know, we've gone I've gone through in my past of, you know, being an
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athlete, bodybuilding and, like, just being a, you know, becoming a chiropractor and stuff.
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I've gone through so many different brands of proteins and There's some I like better than
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others, but, you know, there's always, like, yeah, like, you're talking about the the
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toss-up between, like, ingredients that are most people can't even pronounce it.
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What the hell is in this thing?
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And then is it coming from a clean source?
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So that's fantastic.
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I I I'm gonna I'm gonna get some of your too because I wanna try that.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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One thing I wanted to ask you too, because I've heard it in a previous podcast, and I'm so
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interested because it's come up a number of times.
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And I, like, I'm always asking, like, why why haven't why don't we know what a, like, a
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healthy gut looks like?
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Right?
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One of those things, we know what, like, an unhealthy gut looks like, but we don't know
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what, like, what are the, like, the precursors to make the healthy gut?
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Always been, like, a question for me.
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Like, we know what a healthy artery looks like.
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You know, a clean one.
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Why can't we get to the point of, like, what a healthy gut looks like?
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The reason being.
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Is because we have millions and billions of these microbes and parasites and yeasts that
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create our micro and our our microbiome, and we would have to quantify and define every single
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strain in order for that to happen.
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And we haven't even identified all the strains, and they change on probably a week to week
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basis.
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I mean, those strains are probably replicating and creating new, like strains on a monthly
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basis in the population.
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We don't know at this point.
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I think that Harvard has done a great job with their human microbiome project.
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So that's why we know a lot of the major species, families.
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We can't define quantitatively exactly what constitutes a healthy microbiome because we
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just don't know enough yet.
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And there's so much diversity biodiversity between people and places.
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Right?
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So, like, I have identical twin sons.
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Most likely their microbiomes are gonna be different in some way, right, even though their
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identical twins are their genetics are the same.
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And, you know, we grew up in different areas, drinking different water, eating different
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foods, different, like, social interactions that all influences it.
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So there's, yeah, I I get what you're saying.
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It's is it even possible, right, like blah blah blah?
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Who would you define as the healthiest human being to have the healthiest microbiome?
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Is it the person that lived the longest that had the most kids, like, the female that was
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able to, like, reproduce as many times as possible, like, what defines I don't know.
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I was watching this documentary on the Centarians, like, how to live to a 100.
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I don't know if you saw that, like, the blue zones.
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Like, he went in and he, like, kinda measured things.
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Yeah.
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It was really interesting to see, but if I had to say, I'd I'd look at those people's guts.
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I'd be like, those are the people I to look at.
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There was a there was a, like, a hundred year old man in Costa Rica that was, like, hopping
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up on a horse and just riding along.
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He was a 100 too.
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I'm like, dude, I want that dude's got.
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I'm like, whatever that is.
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But, dude, again, it's like also like the soil in Costa Rica versus the soil in Ardenia,
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Greece is like they're it's different.
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Right?
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So, like, their their crops are growing in different climates, different stuff.
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So they're you gotta imagine their microbiome is gonna be different.
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Even though both these guys are looked healthy at a 102.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, so, yeah, I I get what you're saying.
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It's like, like, how does how do we even start.
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Yeah.
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Knowing that.
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Well, just from a longevity perspective, I always think of of how it's not necessarily how
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long I live, but how young I lived, right, to the age.
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Right?
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So if I'm eighty, I'm I'm living young.
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I kinda wanna mimic, right, that as a staple and maybe reverse engineer, somebody that like
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that versus somebody that gets to 80 or or even a 100.
00:19:14
Right?
00:19:16
But, man, they're not holding it together.
00:19:18
They're walking.
00:19:18
You know, I'd rather think of the imagery of, well, I got to 80, but I died as young as
00:19:23
possible.
00:19:24
So from a longevity standpoint, and how, like, word learning.
00:19:28
Right.
00:19:29
Specifically from you, you know, just day after day, how important that gut layering is to the
00:19:34
rest of the body from an inflammatory perspective.
00:19:36
It's a pretty pretty interesting anyway.
00:19:39
That was that was something that I've learned over the past couple of weeks.
00:19:41
I'm like, That'd be, that'd be cool.
00:19:43
Yeah.
00:19:43
They've done studies.
00:19:44
So they have actually profiled, the microbiome of, like, the Haza population that they've
00:19:52
based the paleo diet off of, and they've also done a few more, profiles of believe it's like
00:19:59
Italians and, other populations that seem to have the healthiest microbiome.
00:20:05
So they're trying to put together the general, like, overviews and overlaps that they can see,
00:20:12
but still we're not close to what exact quantitative amount and what that really can be
00:20:18
defined as.
00:20:18
When you when you start talking about, like, these other countries and stuff, it's like they
00:20:21
have different standards than our country as far as, like, what happens to the crop.
00:20:25
Right?
00:20:25
Like, and I I I guess tell me your opinion on this.
00:20:28
Like, somebody who is maybe especially being that you you have celiac, like, someone who's
00:20:32
gluten intolerant or sensitive to gluten here in this country can somehow go to Italy and eat
00:20:38
pasta and not have a reaction how much of that do you think?
00:20:43
And and again, like, maybe we don't even know the answer, but how much of that do you think
00:20:46
is actually the gluten or is this what they're spraying on the crops this country.
00:20:50
Right?
00:20:50
Even if you get organic, there's there's water runoff that can get into the soil and and, you
00:20:55
know, everything's basically laced nowadays.
00:20:58
I'm not a 100% sure, and I have not looked into the research on this.
00:21:02
However, will say that when we have allergenic reactions, we're reacting to the proteins.
00:21:08
Right?
00:21:09
So we're reacting to the proteins of this civic crop that we're eating.
00:21:13
That's why people are allergic to fruits and vegetables when we react to it, we're
00:21:17
responding to the proteins.
00:21:19
So I don't know building perspective where if you repeatedly eat the same thing that is
00:21:32
inflammatory, you will become sensitive to it.
00:21:35
A lot of people talk about this in a body building with, like, for example, or something
00:21:40
like that.
00:21:40
And for us to say that it's the grain versus the spray, I'm not sure.
00:21:47
Right.
00:21:47
Yeah.
00:21:47
There's been a recent study that said that people who eat more fruits and vegetables in
00:21:53
our country live longer.
00:21:55
And what's sprayed with glyphosate.
00:21:58
They had the highest amount of fruits and vegetables and of glyphosate in their system,
00:22:03
and they lived the long So is that saying that glyphosate is safe?
00:22:08
And fruits and vegetables no matter what will make you feel better?
00:22:12
Like, taking that knowledge and then applying it to, is it the spraying when we go abroad?
00:22:16
I don't think we know the answer yet.
00:22:18
I would only assume that it has to do with specific species that we're consuming in in the
00:22:24
US.
00:22:24
And I think that it has more to do with that versus something abroad.
00:22:30
I don't wanna go off this topic because you mentioned something that I'd we didn't have in
00:22:34
our questions that I definitely wanna tap into.
00:22:37
Is the body building?
00:22:38
How did you get into that?
00:22:39
Like, how did you what was the antithesis?
00:22:42
Was that something like that?
00:22:43
It was always programmed?
00:22:44
And you're like, oh, I wanna get into that.
00:22:46
Yeah.
00:22:46
I'm gonna optimize I nerd it out in college.
00:22:49
So I
00:22:50
That's why we got you on here.
00:22:51
Called here.
00:22:51
I love optimizing.
00:22:52
So I was looking at?
00:22:55
Like, what is the healthiest diet and what is the most effective exercise for longevity?
00:23:00
And I think that during college, I was really focusing on looks, right?
00:23:06
And I've been and while I was going through college, I realized, you know, fitness has
00:23:10
nothing to do with how you look and everything.
00:23:13
And I think because of bodybuilding, once I kinda left that chapter almost, I was like,
00:23:20
Fitness is nothing about bodybuilding.
00:23:22
Fitness is about how long you live and how many times you can reproduce that in a biological
00:23:28
standpoint is exactly what fitness is, how many offspring you can have, and how long you can
00:23:33
live in order to con continue to have those offspring and nurture a family.
00:23:37
So at that point, I was like, that's what fitness is.
00:23:41
And that's when I started focusing a little bit more on adding it and hormone integration and
00:23:45
optimizing hormones and wanting to make sure we add that into our gut and hormone life.
00:23:50
And I think that overall, what I've learned from everything that I've studied and even,
00:23:56
like, die and lifestyle, all the patients I've seen is that there's a huge mental component
00:24:02
and that every single one of those, like, blue zone communities, it's the community.
00:24:08
The people in a community lack the longest.
00:24:11
They have the least amount of stress.
00:24:12
They are passively active.
00:24:14
They have stress resilience because they just they can be stressed, and then they don't feel
00:24:20
stressed throughout the day.
00:24:21
Like, they have a we have a siesta in the middle of the day, you know, like, we 3.
00:24:26
They're relaxed.
00:24:28
And in the US, we live under constant pressure.
00:24:31
We have so much to do.
00:24:33
So are you up at 4 AM to get to your your work hours?
00:24:38
The opposite of what longevity is.
00:24:41
Right?
00:24:41
Yeah.
00:24:41
That perspective is awesome because body builders and people who are performing like
00:24:46
these athletes like you did bikini shows.
00:24:47
Right?
00:24:47
Like, you get down to that, especially as a as a female, you get down to that, like, 10% body
00:24:52
fat.
00:24:53
That is extremely low for a woman.
00:24:56
Hormones are gonna be dysregulated, right, because your body has to prioritize other
00:24:59
things, right, like keeping you alive and and your your metabolism and stuff.
00:25:03
So you're not gonna be primed for getting pregnant and having children in that physical
00:25:08
state.
00:25:08
So, like, you just said, is that fitness?
00:25:10
You might look amazing.
00:25:12
Right?
00:25:12
You might look like this specimen of a human, but, you know, what's the longevity and how
00:25:17
many children can you produce that that exact example you just made?
00:25:21
I a great way to look at it.
00:25:22
I've never actually thought of it like that.
00:25:24
So thank you.
00:25:24
That's fantastic.
00:25:25
Yeah.
00:25:25
That's so cool to think of, like, fitness.
00:25:28
That is fitness.
00:25:29
Like, you said those words are like, that that is for fitness.
00:25:32
I love that.
00:25:32
Any more people are moving into that mobility style training.
00:25:36
I think, like, we can body build from, like, 20 to 30 And then once you hit 35, like, you
00:25:41
really gotta hit the mobility aspects, like, the Tai Chi kind of thing.
00:25:45
It's like, you gotta start stress, like, lowering stress, getting the gentle movements
00:25:50
going, getting ready for that kind of exercise.
00:25:53
My favorite trend right now that I've seen on social media is, like, the dad, like, filming
00:25:57
himself working out.
00:25:58
He's like, I don't work out to be the healthiest guy or to be the fittest.
00:26:01
He's like, I work out so I can dominate my kids for any any athletic endeavor for as long as
00:26:06
possible.
00:26:06
Cool.
00:26:06
And I saw that.
00:26:07
I was like, that's awesome, man.
00:26:09
It's like, being able, whatever it is, right, whether it's, like, hiking up a mountain or,
00:26:12
like, going for a run or swim, you know, like, you gotta be well rounded and, like, you can be
00:26:17
in the best physical looking shape, like 6 pack, all that.
00:26:20
But if you can't bend over to pick up your kid without herniating a disc, how healthy are you?
00:26:25
Right?
00:26:25
Like, Alright.
00:26:26
So we we got a question here.
00:26:27
This is a little bit shifted from from, like, the gut health stuff, but, you know, you're an
00:26:30
entrepreneur, right, being an entrepreneur is very demanding.
00:26:33
Right?
00:26:33
We're both entrepreneurs as well.
00:26:35
How do you balance that entrepreneurial life and those endeavors with the personal life with
00:26:40
the health and your own health do you have aspiring entrepreneurs looking to maintain a
00:26:44
healthy work life balance that come to you and maybe you coach them through that kind of stuff
00:26:48
as well?
00:26:48
So I've been through, like, all phases of entrepreneurship, and I think that every
00:26:52
entrepreneur has phases of isolation, and every entrepreneur has, like, an epiphany and, a
00:27:00
realization of what balance truly looks like in their life.
00:27:04
And the key to that is always community, in my opinion.
00:27:07
And I don't know if you guys have experiences too because when you're in the isolation, it
00:27:12
might be a good point for you.
00:27:13
Right?
00:27:13
Like, maybe you're grinding, you're building the business, etcetera, but you can't you can
00:27:17
build the business.
00:27:18
But you can't grow the business until you start talking to people, laughing more, having that
00:27:21
community relaxing because you'll burn out.
00:27:21
You will burn out if you don't step out of that zone.
00:27:30
And so I think that's, like, my biggest takeaway of it is being an entrepreneur.
00:27:34
And, like, now I just recently, like, 3 or 4 ago moved in with some of my best friends.
00:27:40
One of them is an entrepreneur.
00:27:41
One of them is actually does, like, M and A for an a big company here.
00:27:46
So he knows a lot about, like, financial businesses and buying businesses and what makes
00:27:50
a good business, scaling a and living with other entrepreneurs is a game changer.
00:27:57
Because now, even every single week, we have we have a
00:27:58
team meeting on Sundays.
00:28:03
And on Sundays, we talk about all our house rules, about everything else, but we also talk
00:28:07
about our businesses, and we get feedback from other.
00:28:10
And we get new ideas from each other, and we're constantly supporting each other to grow.
00:28:14
And I think that that kind of environment specifically for is so so valuable and why I
00:28:20
think the future of entrepreneurship is gonna be more of these like masterminds versus
00:28:26
everyone working on their own thing and and getting angry at each other or, like, competing
00:28:30
against each other.
00:28:31
It's gonna be more like, hey.
00:28:32
We're all doing the same thing.
00:28:33
Like, let's talk each other and grow together because I don't wanna waste my time learning
00:28:38
about what email copy has the best open rate if you've already spent 3 months on that and have
00:28:42
data
00:28:43
on it.
00:28:43
You know,
00:28:44
why learn something that somebody else can, you know, kinda give you insight on.
00:28:47
And it doesn't have to be that lonely life, right, that, like, that is so portrayed as,
00:28:51
like, the entrepreneur grind is this lonely head down, because, like, I've almost burned
00:28:55
out twice in my business, like, and, I know what it feels like when you're just, like, not
00:28:59
feeling that purpose, not feeling that that love for what you're doing, not really wanting
00:29:03
to go to work in the morning.
00:29:04
It's not great, man.
00:29:05
And, like, you're like, damn, my name's on the door.
00:29:07
I kinda have to go now.
00:29:08
So it's like, You know?
00:29:10
But, yeah, having the community is is huge.
00:29:12
That's awesome.
00:29:13
Another big thing that you had mentioned in there, and it's just like, part of the reason
00:29:17
why Alfie and I love doing this.
00:29:20
Laughing.
00:29:21
Like, laughing such a key component to longevity of just, like, genuinely enjoying
00:29:26
the, like, laugh being intentional about laughing and having a good time.
00:29:30
Yep.
00:29:31
That, like, brings so much joy.
00:29:33
Ed Mylett was talking about this.
00:29:34
I got coached by him last year, and he was just like, you're always chasing a feeling.
00:29:38
Right?
00:29:39
And laughter brings out a feeling that's, like, unparalleled to anything else.
00:29:43
It's just like when you can laugh with people and just genuinely have that good time, like,
00:29:48
when you say that is fitness, like, that is happiness, laughing.
00:29:52
It also will increase your legal tone.
00:29:55
So it also increase your vagal tone and your gut health will thank you.
00:30:05
But, yeah, so that that is also another big thing, that I wanna tap into even a little bit
00:30:11
more because you said community.
00:30:13
Right?
00:30:13
Community is everything for you, but then you're also building community for other people
00:30:19
and how important that is for, like, collaboration and to grow together and get
00:30:23
healthier together.
00:30:24
How has that been for you?
00:30:25
How how has Ben building what the core perform community that's utilizing your product because
00:30:31
that is a community of itself.
00:30:32
And then, obviously, your coaching side of building that community and elevating each
00:30:37
other and really getting people to respond, right, like that cultivating piece?
00:30:40
How has that been for you and what's that been
00:30:42
Oh, there's so many things I can talk about that we do.
00:30:45
I think the support is the biggest thing in just knowing that you're not alone, especially
00:30:49
when you're sick is, like, showing up and feeling like the first question people ask me,
00:30:54
how long will this take?
00:30:56
How long until I feel better?
00:30:58
And the truth is I can't I can't tell you how long until you feel better, honestly, because a
00:31:04
lot of people, like, there's a fiftyfifty shot on anything.
00:31:08
Even prescription medication for a lot of those prescription medications, like, sometimes
00:31:12
doctors just throw something at you to see if it works.
00:31:14
And then if it doesn't, they'll change it up and use something else.
00:31:17
There's there's a lot of things that every person's body will just respond differently to.
00:31:22
And so while you're teetering with that, it's so important to other people who have who can
00:31:27
keep you motivated and who can say like, oh, yeah.
00:31:30
That that really helped me, or I really love this recipe because when I was really had a
00:31:35
stomachache.
00:31:36
Like, this really helped me.
00:31:37
And making that community to have that support, making you feel less alone.
00:31:42
Is truly what building the community is all about.
00:31:47
And having fun, like having fun in the us.
00:31:50
So with our athletes for court reform, and if anyone's listening to this and wants to be one
00:31:54
of our affiliates and athletes, we're always welcoming new ones, but we have a WhatsApp
00:31:59
group and, like, always, like, tell them, like, hey.
00:32:01
I'm debating between new flavors.
00:32:03
Like, this one or this one, and they get to vote on it.
00:32:06
Or they'll, make you reels.
00:32:08
And then we have, like, this competition every month, and we send them a PDF of, like, fun
00:32:14
challenges, and they win free protein, and they win free, like, other things that we partner
00:32:19
with other companies for.
00:32:20
So just make it fun and make it supportive and give as much as you can.
00:32:24
And I think that that builds community and camaraderie.
00:32:28
We have a a similar mission too.
00:32:29
He's trying to grow community of They're very like minded.
00:32:32
We're gonna be rolling out a a program in maybe by the time this episode airs will be ready,
00:32:37
but, we're gonna call it the optimizer program.
00:32:39
And it's basically for people who are looking to maybe, you know, maybe they're dialed in in
00:32:43
a lot of areas of their life, but not optimized.
00:32:45
And we're trying to take it to the next level.
00:32:47
It's gonna be for high level people, maybe on mostly entrepreneurs or, people who have
00:32:52
achieved success in many other areas, but maybe their health has been on the side, but it's
00:32:57
gonna be a community.
00:32:58
So you're gonna have access to everyone else.
00:32:59
You're gonna be able to say, hey.
00:33:00
What are you struggling with?
00:33:01
And there's gonna be a lot of sharing, and it's just gonna be open open cohort forum where, you
00:33:06
know, you're you got accountability and you also have, like, you can be vulnerable and say,
00:33:10
hey.
00:33:10
I'm not feeling it today.
00:33:11
Like, who else is, you know, and you're not on your own doing it.
00:33:14
Right?
00:33:14
Like, I think a lot of the the struggles I've had at least with with, you know, doing any
00:33:19
kind of, like, nutrition, coaching with patients has been even with chiropractic, it's
00:33:23
like that buy in when they're on their own and me constantly having to reaffirm, reaffirm,
00:33:27
hey.
00:33:28
You're you're doing well.
00:33:29
You're doing okay.
00:33:29
We're gonna get through this.
00:33:30
Right?
00:33:31
But when they got when you got someone doing it with you, like, if I get, like, say, a husband
00:33:35
and wife come in for chiropractic care, and they're doing it together.
00:33:38
And I put them on a similar protocol where they're coming in twice a week together.
00:33:42
The results are always better.
00:33:43
It really is.
00:33:44
And I I should I should get a study done or do some, like, internal work on, like, the
00:33:48
numbers.
00:33:48
But when you have, like, accountability buddy, man, it's it's night and day, for sure.
00:33:53
Accountability will transform people's lives and make sure that there's different theories
00:33:59
of behavior change.
00:34:00
I took an entire on it in my master's classes.
00:34:04
The the but there's, like, external motivators, internal motivators, and in order to get to the
00:34:10
x internal or the internal, like, habit routine building, you have to sometimes have, like, an
00:34:15
external motivator, like, a friend or an accountability partner who will get you there.
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You you typically work one on 1, or do you bring them collectively in the community almost
00:35:00
right away, or do you work with them one on 1 and then bringing them into the community?
00:35:04
We have weekly calls in our community, and then on top of that, if they want the extra support.
00:35:09
And then on top of that, we have the one on one check-in.
00:35:12
So they get the opportunity to feel part of a community.
00:35:16
Like, this on Monday, we did vision boarding for 2024.
00:35:20
So we talked all about resolutions and what happened last year, what we can look forward to
00:35:27
year and how we can create, OKRs for that outcome.
00:35:31
Are you an EOS entrepreneur organizational system to run your K and OKRs.
00:35:36
And
00:35:37
I do it myself.
00:35:37
You do it yourself.
00:35:38
I love that.
00:35:39
As a fellow entrepreneur, I am a lawyer.
00:35:41
I'm the lawyer.
00:35:42
I'm the operations manager.
00:35:44
I'm the cook.
00:35:45
I am the everything in the business.
00:35:47
Are you familiar with traction?
00:35:48
Are you familiar, like, with any the EOS model?
00:35:51
You ever you ever read those?
00:35:52
Oh, really?
00:35:53
They're they're pretty good books.
00:35:54
So there's a book called Traction and then scaling up by, Vern harness.
00:35:58
He's a he's really good.
00:35:59
He's based out of Colorado.
00:36:00
But all these practical things, but that you're talking about.
00:36:05
But, like, I do them personally.
00:36:06
So we actually I met with, some guys this morning, including Al and we kinda have a
00:36:11
scorecard of life that we build out things.
00:36:14
And those are kind of our OKRs and our KPIs for the week of how we're focusing on faith,
00:36:19
family, relationship, finance, and business, and fitness, and health.
00:36:22
So we wanna make sure we're queuing those up and measuring those on a weekly basis.
00:36:26
But then in business, Obviously, I wanna know how my, you know, the sales department's doing
00:36:30
the marketing department, the operations, and then the finance.
00:36:33
So that's a that was just from an entrepreneurship question.
00:36:37
I wanted to tap into real quick.
00:36:39
But you've had, you've had a lot of accolades in rec missions throughout your career.
00:36:44
So and it's short.
00:36:45
You're young.
00:36:46
Alright, aren't you?
00:36:46
You're how how old are you, Rena?
00:36:48
29.
00:36:48
You're 29.
00:36:49
You're so young.
00:36:50
And you've just had, remarkable, obviously, acceleration in your field.
00:36:56
I love the research piece.
00:36:57
What achievements stand out for you?
00:37:00
Like, just right now, and then that it from the past.
00:37:03
And then what do what do you got on the horizon?
00:37:05
What what are you thinking of?
00:37:07
What next year and then maybe in the couple years.
00:37:10
But what's one thing that really stands out to you?
00:37:13
And then what do you what do you got some, what what are some things that are coming up that
00:37:17
you're really excited about?
00:37:18
So I've never felt in my life.
00:37:20
I think that this may be actually a common thing with females and especially who have this
00:37:27
type a personality, like, never really felt proud of my life, except for one moment.
00:37:33
And that one moment was when I graduated Tufts, because so many people bash colleges and
00:37:41
schools at nowadays.
00:37:43
They're like, no one needs that.
00:37:45
Honestly, that school changed my life.
00:37:49
They gave me opportunity, and I'm forever indebted for that opportunity and for those
00:37:54
connections and for the research and for the knowledge that they gave me.
00:37:59
And so graduating from that and feeling a part of that community feeling a part of like a
00:38:06
higher level of standards, feeling a part of Yeah.
00:38:11
We have the white house on on the other line, and we are all in a room with Kellogg and
00:38:17
Campbell.
00:38:17
Like, giving me that opportunity to take me to that higher level and graduating from that
00:38:22
school.
00:38:23
That's the proudest moment I think I've felt And then second to that would be when I
00:38:27
actually won the pitch competition a year or 2 later, was I cried as I was wondering.
00:38:34
That's awesome.
00:38:36
That's cool to hear about that.
00:38:38
What do you what do you have in the works for core perform and for your and for your coaching
00:38:43
program?
00:38:43
Like, what what are things that you're looking in future tense?
00:38:46
Maybe some goals, that you have?
00:38:49
Do may and it could be clients or what what are some things that you're thinking of the future.
00:38:52
Yeah.
00:38:53
We have some fun ideas.
00:38:54
I and and I and this is purely like social media and reach, and we can get into the nitty
00:38:59
gritty of things, but I think I we're we're looking to expand our social networks in the
00:39:07
next year.
00:39:08
So we're looking at into more Facebook utilization, which I know a lot of people are
00:39:13
actually staying away from, but also YouTube And so we're just trying to test out the
00:39:19
waters, and I think entrepreneurship is constantly a, like, a risk you kinda have to
00:39:25
take risks in in different areas and grow different channels.
00:39:29
So I think we've mastered Instagram at this point, and now it's a matter of Okay.
00:39:33
We've have systems and operations set for Instagram.
00:39:37
Let's now open up and now add a YouTube component it now add whatever else component, a
00:39:42
TikTok component, whatever else, and so we can increase our lead gen.
00:39:45
So that's what we're working on from a business perspective, part of the next year, I think.
00:39:50
That's awesome.
00:39:51
That's awesome.
00:39:51
Social's just, like, such a massive strategy.
00:39:54
Yeah.
00:39:54
But then also, like, that piece, and I wanna focus on this a little bit because, that proud
00:39:59
element that, like, that touches me because I feel like I have a really hard time with that
00:40:04
of enjoying the process so much.
00:40:08
That, like, I get these daily pride moments every day.
00:40:10
I'm, like, trying to go back to that of, like, I, like, man, I'm I was actually proud of
00:40:16
yesterday.
00:40:16
Like, I like, not one of those things where I'm constantly achieving and it's driving forward.
00:40:21
But literally, I'm going through this, like, scenario even even the, like, this week.
00:40:26
Right?
00:40:27
Of, like, I'm so forward, forward bound that, like, these proud moments should be happening,
00:40:33
like, more often, I feel like.
00:40:36
Because we talk about that longevity component of just being able to laugh and and enjoy that
00:40:41
process of the journey.
00:40:43
I don't wanna get to the point where, I'm, I I like bringing this Tom Brady analogy, but,
00:40:49
like, when the next rings always the best I wanna be able to process things, like, kind of,
00:40:56
like, as they happen and as things slow down, What's your, just what's your take on that?
00:41:03
You made me think of, like, gratitude gratitude journaling, and I can tell my I am telling
00:41:08
myself every single day.
00:41:09
So freaking blessed of what I do.
00:41:12
I get to help so many people, and it made me think, what is the difference between gratitude
00:41:16
and pride And so I think gratitude and pride, they're slightly different in that gratitude
00:41:24
you are thank and grateful for the place that you've been pride is taking accountability that
00:41:29
you yourself have gotten you to this point.
00:41:32
Right?
00:41:33
It's more about you there's, like, a you component versus anything else.
00:41:39
That's great.
00:41:39
Great perspective on that.
00:41:41
So we we've loved having you on here.
00:41:42
This conversation was awesome.
00:41:43
This is the the probably the best one we've had, man.
00:41:46
I wanna ask you one last question.
00:41:48
We usually ask this of everyone that comes on the show.
00:41:50
So we at full fueled here talk about, like, how are we living our life fully fueled?
00:41:54
We have these 6 pillars that we focus on, fuel, movement, sleep, mind.
00:42:00
So, like, mindset, work and purpose and then spirit.
00:42:03
Tell me a little bit about, like, what does that mean to you to be full fueled and and How
00:42:07
does that, how do you see yourself living your life full fueled?
00:42:10
I love that because we have the same very similar ones at court perform.
00:42:13
We have court perform 5 pillars, sleep, personal stress, environmental stress,
00:42:17
exercise, and diet.
00:42:18
And once you've mastered the stressors of those 5 things, you're living life free.
00:42:23
And so if I were to say what does living life fully fueled mean, it means you're living life
00:42:28
free, full of love, and full of giving love.
00:42:32
That was a knockout answer.
00:42:34
I love that.
00:42:35
Can you tell the listeners a little bit about, you know, where they can learn more about you
00:42:39
online, website, Instagram, all of it.
00:42:42
Just kinda plug yourself here.
00:42:43
Absolutely.
00:42:44
So my Instagram is Dasha Fitness, d a s h a, fitness, And then our website is
00:42:49
coreperform.com.
00:42:51
And if you're interested in trying the protein, you can head right to our website.
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You can get 15% off on your order, and we're on Amazon as well.
00:43:01
And you can always shoot me an email, all my links and everything is gonna be linked below.
00:43:05
I'm
00:43:06
Everyone listening needs to follow Dasha at Dasha Fitness because I'm at content, man.
00:43:11
And it is, like, pure value.
00:43:13
Like, she she puts a lot of effort into her Instagram feed to provide a tremendous amount
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of value.
00:43:20
So I couldn't encourage it more.
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Please go follow her.
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Because she is absolutely just at, like, free value driven.
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So if there's anyone you follow, please go follow, Dasha.
00:43:32
She's amazing.
00:43:33
Thank you so much.
00:43:34
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00:44:02
Well, awesome.
00:44:03
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